The NFL Is Adding A European Division

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  • @Gallalad1
    @Gallalad1 ปีที่แล้ว +2316

    All I'm saying is that if they do set a team up in London is HAS to be called the Redcoats. They'd be the instant bad guys of the league (which England loves to be in sports) and they'd have an instant rivalry with the Patriots.

    • @shinigamiryan5837
      @shinigamiryan5837 ปีที่แล้ว +372

      I hate that as a New Englander, that'd be brilliant.

    • @Gallalad1
      @Gallalad1 ปีที่แล้ว +173

      @@shinigamiryan5837 Right? Like all I'm saying is that if you want English fans to really rally around a team then make them the bad guy. Just look at English soccer fans if you dont believe me.

    • @thewlisjack
      @thewlisjack ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Im english and as cool as this would be it wont ever happen, the red coats massacred a lot of people, specifically in south africa also the english and european public will keep hating american football until it changes its name, rugby and american football are both games created from football, but to europeans, american football is the ripoff thats why it wont take off

    • @alltiktokersgotohell6757
      @alltiktokersgotohell6757 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Gallalad1 its not that they love to be or do, theyre just really fucking toxic and bratty

    • @FrankMichaelSmith
      @FrankMichaelSmith  ปีที่แล้ว +184

      I'm with this take

  • @fdswervo
    @fdswervo ปีที่แล้ว +794

    Need an expansion to Canada, players would be more willing to play in Canada than in Europe and the travel is not bad

    • @therealallpro
      @therealallpro ปีที่แล้ว

      CFL is actively blocking them.

    • @johnhargrave7818
      @johnhargrave7818 ปีที่แล้ว

      They don’t want to kill the CFL

    • @OneStarRating
      @OneStarRating ปีที่แล้ว +68

      The NBA is planning to potentially put an expansion in Mexico City. That would work for the NFL as well. I'm for international expansion in all pro sports, with that being said I agree that we should start with the Americas first. To use an analogy the NFL is like an expanding city, it would be better to expand on the nearest land and not a spot with thousands of miles of ocean between them.

    • @codfishish199
      @codfishish199 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      The problem is Canada has their own league

    • @fdswervo
      @fdswervo ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@codfishish199 it doesn’t make much money though, the government pays to keep it alive and is why they didn’t play throughout Covid, An NFL team in Toronto could do as well as the blue jays and raptors, also finding an owner isn’t hard as they could propose this to MLSE who owns the Raptors and the maple leafs

  • @RhawketS
    @RhawketS ปีที่แล้ว +306

    Expansion to Canada and Mexico would be way more realistic. But if they wanted to add a conference in the EU, then most likely every team would be in England. Germany also loves the NFL and would be a second country as an option. Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Netherlands, and Denmark are also options, but most other countries in the EU don't have big NFL fans.

    • @dave-xp9qk
      @dave-xp9qk ปีที่แล้ว +24

      1. expansion would almost never happen in canada per conflict with the cfl
      2. expansion would almost NEVER happen in mexico
      3. the nfl has been planning european expansion for years
      4. germany has more nfl fans (and more avid nfl fans) than the uk
      5. a london franchise has been in discussion since circa 2018
      6. during the nfl europa days EVERY TEAM was located in germany because the uk spain and nederlands franchises were insolvent (though the claymores and monarchs were at least decently popular)
      and 7. germany is the only nation in europe which has proven capacity to FULLY support a big league franchise
      8. especially the city of frankfurt which LOVES american football for some reason
      9. germany spearheads an existing european american football league (the EFL) which has grown rapidly in recent years
      10. england has almost nothing of that caliber

    • @nicestoriesnottherealstori3006
      @nicestoriesnottherealstori3006 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You know if it happens I can see two teams in London and two teams in Germany.

    • @tobyjohnson9136
      @tobyjohnson9136 ปีที่แล้ว

      Canada wouldn't be worth it, it's not really a new broadcast market and is already highly NFL saturated. People who want to watch the NFL in Canada are all already doing so. They don't care about attendance since that is small fry.
      London would be more profitable since it would open up new broadcast deals and value to an 'unsaturated' market. (Over 10 million people live in London) It would also be the beach-head in trying to develop more interest and even teams elsewhere in Europe.
      It might not be viable to have a team on it's own in London but in any plan for a European division London is an obvious choice, particularly since the owner of Tottenham Hotspur, Daniel Levy, made sure to design the new stadium in such a way that it could easily operate as an NFL stadium with a retractable pitch and giant NFL-grade locker rooms. The retractable pitch means that it can hosts Tottenham matches and NFL games with a days notice and without the NFL games adding wear and tear to the pitch.
      th-cam.com/video/o9kDe1eOn64/w-d-xo.html
      Finding stadiums will be the big problem for the NFL here. The NFL is really set on every game being a big high event in a large well-equipped stadium, they won't accept playing in smaller venues but will the larger ones either want or be able to accommodate their schedule?. Building their own one seems like a really big risk. (And likely quite difficult with it almost certainly being well away from the city centre of whatever city they're operating in)

    • @inkinfameflow
      @inkinfameflow ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No other League like the nfl 🇺🇲, but thankyou for not forgetting about 🇲🇽

    • @theoverunderthinker
      @theoverunderthinker ปีที่แล้ว +2

      wasn't there a USFL team in Barcelona? the Dragons? or was that some other random league that opened and folded over the years?

  • @user-ei7ed6zy9k
    @user-ei7ed6zy9k ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Im a Londoner who goes to every London game and at least 1 in Philly every season. I don’t think a franchise or division here would work here. Most fans are genuine fans but its dominated by Americans, American expats, Germans and Dutch. Not to mention it feels like 50% of the seats are given to celebrities and social media influencers to promote it. Half time show is forced and i dont think we can sell out wembley every Sunday after a few weeks. I say keep this going as an annual treat for us, lose the celebrities and the pageantry. 8 games is plenty for any city. Fix the season ticket problem for real fans

    • @epicow_1973
      @epicow_1973 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it could work, definitely NOT a division though. There are some tough logistical issues, but the NFL has handled worse before. Also, there are 7 MILLION (not just american) fans in the UK, which is more than a a good amount of NFL teams. If i think the nfl is expanding. I think its going to probably be in america and south america though. (Im also an eagles fan btw)

    • @user-em1ig7xo9d
      @user-em1ig7xo9d 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      100% this. The novelty will die off, people won’t be willing to give up time watching their “soccer” teams or rugby etc to take on American Football. In the uk you just don’t really grow up with a passion for American football, it’s not played in schools or the parks, you rarely see attire in stores unless it’s like a raiders hat that people don’t even know what it really is.
      You have to acquire and interest in the sport. For me I got into it because I have American relatives, I’ve watched the Super Bowl every year for 15+ years, I can’t really sit through regular games because it just doesn’t keep you glued like soccer does. That’s another issue for the European market.
      We have this new ELF league in Europe, unfortunately with no Uk team right now, they should monitor how this does, and potentially form a post season tour + tournament were ELF teams take on CFL and NFL teams etc for an American football version of the Club World Cup. Of course you’d expect the nfl teams to steam roll it but it’d be fun nevertheless.

  • @Sixsince-dd2eu
    @Sixsince-dd2eu ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Imagine you wake up one day and find out you got traded to Croatia

    • @excelsior3381
      @excelsior3381 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💀

    • @ApparentlyTemp
      @ApparentlyTemp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They need to change the way transfers work in the nfl then.

    • @petarkos1716
      @petarkos1716 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That would actually be a compliment as Croatia is one of the greatest sporting nations in the world & one of the most beautiful ones

    • @aarongoldsmith8620
      @aarongoldsmith8620 หลายเดือนก่อน

      better than being in america

  • @Astragoth2
    @Astragoth2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The ELF is really promising. I'm a Rhein Fire fan, the games are amazing. The level is nowhere near the NFL, but it is growing rapidly

  • @AnthonyLock92
    @AnthonyLock92 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    Great video! As a Brit who has gradually got more into the NFL over the last 4 years I would love to see an NFL Europe team. Instead of picking a team at random to support we can support a home team.
    The world is a lot more globalised than years past. NFL highlights on TH-cam for instance really do engage the fans! Over here as the "afternoon" kicks off don't finish until gone 12:30 on a Monday morning and prime time games just do not exist.
    The two things I think the NFL can learn from Europe sports are
    1. Local rivals, when Man u and Man city or Arsenal Tottenham play it takes over the city. The teams hate each other! If there were to be a shake up of divisions let's put the jets and giants together, rams, chargers together. Get them to play twice a year and let the city rivalry blossom. Not just historical rivalry as we have those as well (Man U, Liverpool. Or Arsenal Man u for example) but location rivalry regardless of how well the teams are playing is always a big game!
    2. in the last week's of the season the bottom of the league is almost more entertaining than the top. With the risk of getting relegated to a lower division teams will do anything to stay up. Not sure how the NFL could achieve this with set divisions. Unless you just split the 34 teams in 2. Get rid of divisions and just play people in your league (1 or 2). And then you have the top 8 teams from league 1 fighting for a playoff bracket, top 3 teams from league 2 fighting for a promotion place and everyone else at the bottom end of league 1 fighting to not to get relegated. The draft order would have to be worked on, but that would be interesting. It means that every game matters, and at the end of the season there are very little dead rubbers

    • @javierfernandez2576
      @javierfernandez2576 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      love to see a brit that’s an nfl fan 🙌🏽. But as an american I don’t think the second point is the best of recommendations, as the teams are playing for the top picks in the draft. I like the first point tho and I’ve always wanted them to do that

    • @MustacheDLuffy
      @MustacheDLuffy ปีที่แล้ว +7

      1. Actually that’s probably the push to have a NFL division in Europe. They’re filled with the biggest rivalries and are heavily geographically based. If London proves to be successful to football I can see them having 2 different NFL teams in London. Based on rivalries I could see their being another team in Manchester and those 2-3 teams being in the same division.
      2. No clue how it works. In the NBA/MLB/NHL they have a dart lottery for the top pick so that teams wouldn’t intentionally try to lose to get it. It doesn’t hurt rivalries (except ego). I know some bears fans who wouldn’t mind being 2-15 as long as the 2 wins were against the packers.

    • @thelastmanonearth2631
      @thelastmanonearth2631 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As an American that loves your version of football, picking your side is a lovely rite of passage that you shouldn't deny yourself. It's a fun process. You get established fans vying for your support, you get to learn about all the teams, and even a bit of geography. You also find yourself tied to the place. For example, I chose Portsmouth FC (when they were still fan-owned) and now I'm quite enamored with England's south coast. I would HATE to see a couple of American premier league clubs. They would just be in NY and LA anyway - two of America's worst cities 🤮. I LOVE that I got to choose Pompey through a long process instead of being born into a team like I was with other sports teams here.

    • @clipcionx9589
      @clipcionx9589 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the states there used to be this type of rivalry, at least in the bay. The San Francisco 49ers and (then) Oakland raiders used to have games. But the games were wayyy to violent. Eventually we just stopped having regular seasonal games together after there were shootings at these games

    • @turk687
      @turk687 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They should not have a team in the National key word Football League. Start your own EFL

  • @moinnoin8110
    @moinnoin8110 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    What an awesome and interesting video. Is am from Cologne(Germany), the city of the football (soccer) club you took the clips from and I would love to have a division here in Europe and I think it will actually work out this time. Just by looking at all the London games and now this year the Munich game took it on a complete different level, they sold out 72.000 tickets in a couple of seconds, over 1.5 million people wanted to buy a ticket. The hype about football is big here, but just like Rodger Godell said, the biggest problem is making competitive teams. If you look at the ELF it’s not competitive at all, but I think the NFL will figure something out and I’ll hope I can go to an away game to the US in couple of years with my European team. Btw I hope it will be my hometown team the Cologne centurions :)

    • @FrankMichaelSmith
      @FrankMichaelSmith  ปีที่แล้ว +16

      that was SOOO promising to see the passion in Germany. Wish i went to that game as well. Already planning a trip for next season! I appreciate the long form response here

    • @Max-Films
      @Max-Films ปีที่แล้ว +2

      how prevalent is the GFL and ELF in Germany? Do you think ELF teams would join the NFL?

    • @moinnoin8110
      @moinnoin8110 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Max-Films to be honest the GFL isn’t relevant and competitive at all and I don’t know much about that Leguage! The ELF is more promising but still no comparison either the NFL. The ELF starts to bring more and more fans to the local teams, the Leguage home game average is still at 4.000 but growing. But both Leguages are no match to the NFL. Europe needs some big Investors behind a team and bring some American stars oversees and build a team around them. All of them could join, but it will only be the name and the logo that joins, the team, the staff, the facility has to change!

    • @subgum3403
      @subgum3403 ปีที่แล้ว

      Koln centurians

  • @DogeManYeet
    @DogeManYeet ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The editing on this video is so good! You had so much information and detail, it almost felt like a documentary.

  • @ryantayk9703
    @ryantayk9703 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Awesome video! I hope people realize all the work put into this!

  • @thezebras910
    @thezebras910 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I say add 8 teams, one division purely comprised of European teams, and one division with 2 Mexican and 2 Canadian teams!

  • @Anipaper_
    @Anipaper_ ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Can't wait to see four people show up to the London vs Jaguars game

  • @jamescbrown8149
    @jamescbrown8149 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice vid! Very keen UK Bengals fan here. 4 well placed and marketed teams would do very well in Europe. It would involve a lot of challenges for every corner of the NFL overall as a business, but it is the next logical step. It’s a matter of when, not if.
    In terms of the culture, it will build around it with its own local traditions like different parts of the US does. The game in Munich looked absolutely amazing, and if London had a franchise with everyone backing it, it would find is character & soul very quickly.

  • @dreamofyesterday
    @dreamofyesterday ปีที่แล้ว +80

    As a new NFL fan from Greece it would be awesome to be expanded in Europe. It would make NFL even more popular and accessible to us, Europeans. Can't wait to see this becoming real!

    • @BaconHairFish
      @BaconHairFish ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Athens Spartans?

    • @ogedits123
      @ogedits123 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@BaconHairFish bro imagine west coast teams travelling to Athens to play 💀

    • @ajfanotreally2523
      @ajfanotreally2523 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@BaconHairFishthat would be the most badass football team

    • @dreamofyesterday
      @dreamofyesterday ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BaconHairFish Sick team name btw!

    • @your_localpond
      @your_localpond ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Im not the only greek fan yeee

  • @nix0737
    @nix0737 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Frank, I watch a lot of your short form content and have for some time but let me just say this is next level stuff. Amazing man!

  • @crayhack
    @crayhack ปีที่แล้ว +49

    The whole issue to me is the timing and travel. It's going to be fully unfair for the teams who need to play 11 games with a 6+ hour time difference. Along with that, broadcasting SNF or MNF or even the 4pm games for European teams are going to be middle of the night. It's not really possible for anyone.

    • @javierfernandez2576
      @javierfernandez2576 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      formula 1 tackles these logistics problems really well, I wouldn’t be surprised if the NFL discusses with them how to figure it all out

    • @therealallpro
      @therealallpro ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You are looking at this backwards. Europe has twice the population of America. That's free money. You make it work

    • @daoneils3783
      @daoneils3783 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@therealallpro yeah but Football is also twice if not triple times more popular in the US.

    • @tobyjohnson9136
      @tobyjohnson9136 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think that's why he wants a division, that way you can gain TV rights money in new territories (Or rather more lucrative deals) with a local division playing at appropriate times for local audiences. (Given the direction of the time difference the European games would be during waking hours for American audiences) Then you can have interest from the new audiences in the playoffs even if you don't adjust the times for US only games for them.

    • @crayhack
      @crayhack ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tobyjohnson9136 I agree that's the best approach, but what happens when the London Wooden teeth play the 49ers in SF? That's what I think is the biggest difficulty. 8 hour time difference is gonna cause a headache for that. They're gonna need to add a permanent morning slot to make sure that games aren't all night time or midnight in the UK

  • @Pichu-zm9qk
    @Pichu-zm9qk ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I would think the season gets extended if this happens to 19 weeks but 2 bye weeks hopefully. This could help with the Thursday night problem and long travel games for Europe matches. Help not solve but it would be interesting

  • @StoneMountain64
    @StoneMountain64 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Your video was incredible man!!!

  • @seanbailey8545
    @seanbailey8545 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think they also need to add scholarships for Universities here. To attract student athletes for drafting in Europe.

    • @afbismedia2221
      @afbismedia2221 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fr Fr they do need it also and make college Football big in England

  • @redskylar5374
    @redskylar5374 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Definitely improved video quality in terms of editing and the info delivered!

    • @FrankMichaelSmith
      @FrankMichaelSmith  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      we put a ton of work into this one!

    • @Durvington
      @Durvington ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FrankMichaelSmith you can tell just off the intro

  • @sethryning5331
    @sethryning5331 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Instead of just AFC and NFC, have the playoffs also comprise of an NFL European Conference and the #1 or top 2 from the CFL. Schedule it so that the European teams play mostly each other during the regular season for logistical reasons (which would hopefully develop stronger local rivalries and feed off existing European rivalries), and the CFL keeps its autonomy with the distinct Canadian rules, playoffs and schedule.

  • @blaisestritt8177
    @blaisestritt8177 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I think you should have mentioned the current european football league located primarily in germany and surrounding countries (the european league of football, not to be confused with the other europe leagues you mentioned).

    • @FrankMichaelSmith
      @FrankMichaelSmith  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I agree, this would have made for a nice chapter

  • @g.williams2047
    @g.williams2047 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Terrible idea. Mexico/Canada expansion makes sense, but I’d think there would have to be a whole other conference of at least 8 teams in Europe to make it work well. NFC, AFC, EFC.

  • @philosophersfountain
    @philosophersfountain ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This reminds me of a Johnny Harris vid, keep it up bro!

    • @FrankMichaelSmith
      @FrankMichaelSmith  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Johnny is a huge inspiration. I take that as a serious compliment

  • @donkeysaurusrex7881
    @donkeysaurusrex7881 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always needed to be four teams if they were going to do it with the next step being growing the league só it can be spun off as a separate league with the American and European champs meeting for Super Bowl. London’s a great city, and I think most American players would take to it quickly. Other places could be tough especially if one of these four teams is outside the UK or Ireland.
    Four teams makes scheduling much easier. The channel Wendover Productions looked into this a few years back, and basically for equipment the NFL would need to operate a small airline’s worth of cargo jets. Plus ideally you’d build out a few as basically flying hotel rooms to ease the impact the travel has on injury recovery and jetlag. Furthermore, the league would do well to buy/build a league owned apartment building and training facility in Boston and Reykjavik. This gives east coast a short flight with a day or two to train and adjust to the time change before hitting Europe proper after another short flight, and teams outside the east coast would have three short flights with stops first at the Boston facility and then the Reykjavik facility. That’s what they should do. I expect it is what the player’s union will eventually force them to do.

  • @GRB-tj6uj
    @GRB-tj6uj ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think an underrated issue is that any franchise located in the European Union would have to comply to EU laws and regulations. You would need a specialized lawyer to really dig into this but I think lot of the practices of the NFL are pretty illegal in the EU. And labour law and regulations are completely different in any European country in comparison with the US. And make no mistakes, the EU will go after them hard if they think the NFL is not compliant.

  • @user-jn2ur1oc9b
    @user-jn2ur1oc9b 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My idea is to bring back some of the NFLE Teams , that did really well, for instance, The England Monarchs, Frankfurt Galaxy, Rhein Fire, Hamburg Sea Devils, Berlin Thunder, and the Cologne Centurions , to make up the NFL Europe Division, to make a 40 Team NFL. The NFL needs to play World wide Football and what better way, than to have NFL Teams playing in the European area. The Football Fans would go to the NFL Football Games, if it was Their Own Team.

  • @Nick-Scott
    @Nick-Scott ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Having NFL teams in Europe will be like two Philadelphia teams playing each other just drunks cursing at each other and fighting, we need a fam fight cam.

  • @pseudonymsarehard7189
    @pseudonymsarehard7189 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes, let's have 4 expansion teams when there's not enough good coaches and quarterbacks to go around for 32 teams. Great idea!
    /s

  • @MylesHSG
    @MylesHSG ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video Frank. I'm a Patriots fan and a "season" ticket holder for the international series games in London and have gone to almost every game since 2011. What I think makes the London games a success is it is a destination event, fans travel at great expense from all over the UK and Europe to attend the games. Would that business model work with 8 or 9 home games? I'm not sure, I certainly don't think they could sell out Wembley with 85k seats that many times a year, but that's why the NFL partnered with Tottenham Hotspur and the 60k capacity there is much more realistic (and has the advantage of being designed with NFL in mind such as dedicated locker rooms and better sightlines). Would I stop supporting the Patriots to follow a London team? That question I really don't know yet.

    • @jarrydmckenna1720
      @jarrydmckenna1720 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's always been my doubt... I'm a Giants fan. Went to a few Wembley and it is a great way for fans to get their NFL fix but every team is represented in the stands. English fans are known for their loyalty, just look at the Championship attendance figures. But I would never give up supporting the Giants just because a Lomdon team has popped up and I imagine most of the UK based fans are the same.

  • @javierfernandez2576
    @javierfernandez2576 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    hey man I love the video. I think they should put a team in Paris, Germany(idk what city), Madrid, and London. I think a team representing each country would work well and bring in fans from the area and increase interest in the sport.

    • @Superiocrates
      @Superiocrates ปีที่แล้ว +3

      THEY SHOULD NAME THE SPANISH TEAM THE SPANISH INQUISITION OMGG

    • @PhilWorley
      @PhilWorley ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Barcelona Dragons 🐉

  • @star-fruit
    @star-fruit ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is a great video with wonderful filmmaking and editing! you just earned yourself a subscriber!

  • @derrickwren7878
    @derrickwren7878 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my first video of this format I'm watching of yours. I don't know why, but I very much enjoy this style of video. From the editing, to the commentary I enjoyed this video greatly

  • @BamBamSr
    @BamBamSr ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Personally I think Europe is too far away, too many time zones away, but I also LOVE the idea of a European, American rivalry. Also after seeing the enthusiasm around Munich for the Seattle Tampa Bay game, I think it could work over there 👍

  • @BitsOfBen
    @BitsOfBen ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The trouble is, the NFL doesn’t have the appeal to really have a division over here in Europe. It’s fanbase is in the minority in Europe. Sure, they may sell out Wembley when they have games over here but they are off off events. American football isn’t a global sport in comparison to soccer. If a European division was set up it probably won’t last long.

  • @marsh8417
    @marsh8417 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love watching the game but I think part of the success of the London series is because it's a chance for UK fans to experience it live and for ex-pat US fans to watch their team abroad. The passion is there and UK fans love the game but it works right now as it is. This feels like a cash grab. (However I do love the idea floated below of the London Red Coats!)

  • @rishavsingh2380
    @rishavsingh2380 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro this video is goated. Keep up the good work my man

  • @calebward9284
    @calebward9284 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m surprised they would do this before going to Canada. I’m more surprised that they don’t expand in the states first. There are plenty of cities here who still want a team and enough of them would make enough money for an expansion team to be worth the venture. Kind of sad in a way, as someone without a team in my city I feel slighted.

  • @tylertrex2123
    @tylertrex2123 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4 teams in London and 4 teams in Canada 🇨🇦 5 divisions of 4 teams, it would be perfect

  • @Kyleterp1
    @Kyleterp1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Logistically and from a tax standpoint, with the Jock tax and Europe’s high tax rate, not to mention value if the dollar compared to the pound will make this unlikely.

  • @primalryuu54
    @primalryuu54 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If they go international, I pray that it isn’t in Europe because the logistics behind that, would be a nightmare. Home and away games would be a nightmare for both teams when you account jet lag

  • @kierandudson44
    @kierandudson44 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a NFL fan from the UK I don’t think it would work having a team here as we fans have already chosen established teams (mine are the Jets) so I don’t think they would get a hardcore following and would seem abit gimmicky in my opinion

    • @yourdreams2440
      @yourdreams2440 ปีที่แล้ว

      May I ask, why the Jets?

    • @kierandudson44
      @kierandudson44 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yourdreams2440 I like an underdog and want to pick a team that was winning when I first started watching also I like New York as city

    • @brandoninhofer6592
      @brandoninhofer6592 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kierandudson44 Could have went with the G-men too? 😃

  • @cliffordjackson3
    @cliffordjackson3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your content Frank keep it up!😁😁😁

  • @oneminhistory
    @oneminhistory ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me again! The sections that didn’t return to their seats at the start of the 2nd half are the rich seats. They get a three course dinner and drinks so don’t really care about the game. No proper fan sits in those seats, they’re kept for sponsors, guests and out of touch rich people.

  • @808peted8
    @808peted8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Frank love the videos and the shorts 🙏🏾 God Bless

  • @benjaminpatterson3535
    @benjaminpatterson3535 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! Awesome production quality!

  • @Halberry
    @Halberry ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Great Video! Would love to see a NFL European Division!

    • @FrankMichaelSmith
      @FrankMichaelSmith  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m all for experimenting. Has the potential to be really fun

    • @skaterofboards
      @skaterofboards ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@whytheOG Lol not really unfair because any team could make up their own language which is what they do with the code name playcalls.

    • @javierfernandez2576
      @javierfernandez2576 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whytheOG not really, what’s gonna happen is a team won’t be “only german” they will be americans who play american football living in germany.

    • @jordan_siegel10
      @jordan_siegel10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@whytheOG others teams aren’t supposed to know the plays, also, watch film and learn formations like grown men that play football do?

    • @sotg1167
      @sotg1167 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whytheOG I think that only being able to pick German players would be a disadvantage

  • @PittPacks
    @PittPacks ปีที่แล้ว

    Met the man behind the curtain today at my job as a bartender and i gotta say he's just as nice as you would think he'd be in person. Proud he's from the burgh.

  • @woddy1uk
    @woddy1uk ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Interesting video. I don’t think a franchise will work in the UK.. at the moment the NFL games are a novelty, so you’ll get a lot of tourists etc would you be expecting to see 90k every home game? Also competing for eyes/fans with the EPL on game days might be a reality check/shock.
    I play in a fantasy league and watch the NFL on tv but haven’t bothered to go to a game, here in London because if I want to get the “real” experience , I’d make an effort to go to the USA. The current experience is “USA lite” which is ok..

    • @javierfernandez2576
      @javierfernandez2576 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think if the NFL should put ONE team on the UK, to avoid that issue. An an american the sport is a lot more fun when you have a local team to root for, so I think that won’t be an issue.

  • @theflyingdropbear2009
    @theflyingdropbear2009 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would like to see the NFL make an attempt here in Australia, it wouldn't interfere with our Football league (The AFL), since it is usually played between March and September. We have already adopted some of the other sporting codes from the USA, such as Basketball and Baseball, albeit the latter does have some minor support base here, but it is nothing compared to the support base of the NFL, here in Australia.
    We are already a major sporting nation, so the NFL setting up shop here in Australia will take some time, but the foundations are there.

    • @kamadog8413
      @kamadog8413 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would love to see that, just like I would love to see afl teams here in north america. Lots of people are starting to watch here. So the time to start teams here is now!

    • @OldFossil
      @OldFossil ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kamadog8413 we actually almost had an LA team in the 80’s.
      Personally I don’t think there should be any international AFL teams (except for New Zealand and PNG) but instead the USA should have it’s own professional league. Then you can have international friendlies between Australian and American teams

  • @KingDamon09
    @KingDamon09 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was awesome.. thank you

  • @Zenith626
    @Zenith626 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutley Amazing video look forward to seeing more in the future. Keep up the good work.

  • @milantoth6246
    @milantoth6246 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a european, I dont think this will be happening in the near future. They will slowly build up audiences in europe with these one off games, set up partnerships with bars, betting places, build out some basic permanent infrastructure as ways to introduce people to the sport, support some youth leagues, a LOT of adverisementa, and THEN, in i’d say 10-15 years, a european division. Even then I think it’ll be very german dominated, which does make me sad as an eastern european, but germans love their NFL snd ELF more than anyone else.

  • @jacktjrutherford
    @jacktjrutherford ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve been a season ticket holder for the London games since 2013. I’m ready 🎉

  • @benirr5531
    @benirr5531 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude this was very well done !!

  • @joefaber1381
    @joefaber1381 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The NFL talked about launching a sister league called the European Football League (EFL) back in 1974.

  • @Primetime_Prods
    @Primetime_Prods ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly I think the NFL should do what hockey does when they add a new team and thats give the Probably 10 firsts 15 2nds, 20 3rds and then proceed on the draft as normal what they should also do is add competent Gm's, coaches, and slowly integrate more highly skilled europeans on the team that way it still is more of a home-grown euro team while still being competitive

  • @NFLjunk79
    @NFLjunk79 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Travel wouldn't be a problem if the NFL decides to schedule the teams bye week after their European games.

  • @mEtil5656
    @mEtil5656 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would also love some Basketball teams in europe

  • @tiltmasterflex7220
    @tiltmasterflex7220 ปีที่แล้ว

    That area that didn't come back out for the 3rd straight away appears to be the segment of Wembley usually designated for corporate tickets.

  • @seandunn8972
    @seandunn8972 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a Canadian, I can speak for the country saying not a whole lotta people enjoy or watch the CFL. We eat up the NFL market way more than CFL because it’s obviously the most prominent league. I feel like a Canadian expansion is more ideal, logistically way easier and Canadians would go absolutely nuts to have a couple local teams.

    • @javierfernandez2576
      @javierfernandez2576 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think they should put a team in Montréal, big market and it’s not near another NFL team.

  • @SilentGaming85
    @SilentGaming85 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you should do a video of making all the teams, the location, the uniforms, how the expansion would work, the draft, etc

  • @jayiconix7890
    @jayiconix7890 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Players would absolutely hate that. Flying that far with the time changes and the tight schedule is awful. Especially having to fly that far that often. The nfl already has an issue with travel. This would make it 100x worse

  • @EdBate
    @EdBate 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    an expansion div would be so cool to see and if it didnt work out theres plenty of cities in NA that need a team.

  • @seanbailey8545
    @seanbailey8545 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think a lot of players from Rugby Backgrounds could make the Move to NFL if they make a division

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be difficult. At the highest level the skills and physical demands are quite different.

  • @evanl.8949
    @evanl.8949 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video, I recognized the clip from Pittsburgh international airport!

  • @woodrowwilsontheoriginal
    @woodrowwilsontheoriginal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Efc: European football conference, we can start with that, as we expand we can split the division into more divisions. My idea for the first 4 teams:
    Team in London
    Team in Berlin
    Team in Paris
    And a team in Madrid
    Now this is where YOU come in
    Name these 4 teams

  • @jaggmaster5728
    @jaggmaster5728 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should become 40 team league. European Division with London, Paris, Germany, and Dublin. Then a division for Canada plus Mexico City. The cities being Toronto, Vancouver, and either Calgary or Montreal.

  • @AreJay2006
    @AreJay2006 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine being 22 years old, working hard in your NCAA career to be drafted into a country you don't speak the main language, are a 10+ hour flight away from home and have no friends or family nearby. Yeah that's super attractive. Get ready for players to refuse to play over seas.

    • @mattk7865
      @mattk7865 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Imagine international footballers already do this when they’re kids? Scouts will encourage kids parents from Brazil to play for a German development club when they’re 10.

    • @AreJay2006
      @AreJay2006 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattk7865 American society is completely different. I'm well aware of how soccer works. It's plain and simple NFL in Europe will not work. NHL doesn't even do it and honestly that's probably the best professional league to even try it and they haven't even touched it. There's a reason for it and logistics is a huge part of that.

  • @kevinmoynihan5118
    @kevinmoynihan5118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Overall, really good, but I do have questions about one thing you mentioned in regards to the divisions, would it be a 4 team division in Europe, or would the NFL adopt 6 team divisions. Because if it’s the latter then the European teams would have their own division and if it’s the former then it would be weird logistically with the playoffs and conference alignment.

  • @harrydvs114
    @harrydvs114 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video but you should really look into American football that’s being played in the uk right now. Almost every university in the uk has a team and there’s plenty of mens teams aswell. Having franchises here and across Europe will also help unearth local talent and allow the league to have global players

  • @benrekosh6379
    @benrekosh6379 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastically made video! An interesting concept to follow

  • @CalledTurnAGundam
    @CalledTurnAGundam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Give the teams proxy locations to play for a certain number of weeks a year (preferably close to some nice expensive hotels) , and make the remaining games in the European team's cities. I guarantee you if this is marketed correctly a NFC Europe and AFC Europe would bring something special to the gridiron. This way, with proxy (host city) locations for a few weeks at least , I think that'd be a good transition. Reduce transit costs, and also keeps the players in a way where they can find consistency in routine.
    Hell, make one of the cities San Diego. I'm sure the future London Royals AND the abandoned mission town will thank the league.

  • @triplemoyagames4195
    @triplemoyagames4195 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The biggest Issue I see, is the time, a full NFL game can take 3 hours, which is in stark contrast to a Soccer game that takes half that time. The NFL would need a way to make the games shorter

  • @khem3275
    @khem3275 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Europe before Canada would criminal...

  • @Westermann15
    @Westermann15 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @4:10 it's not either or. In the UK you can bet online as well as in physical betting offices.

  • @WGGplant
    @WGGplant ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not super relevant, but "soccer" was the original British name for what Americans now/still call "soccer". It only changed to football in the UK after the colonization of North America to make it translate easier bt other European names for the game.
    we use the original English term for soccer. that means neither name for the game is incorrect

  • @drewsomerville7586
    @drewsomerville7586 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ask the average European NFL fan and they’ll tell you they don’t want a European team, we go the London games to see the US teams we have supported for years !! A new European expansion team holds no appeal to us !!

  • @aaronjanlistanco
    @aaronjanlistanco 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    American football teams are have in each country like Germany, Spain , Italy, Canada, UK, China, Mexico, South Korea, Australia, Netherlands, Iceland and the Philippines (just the newest American football teams)

  • @Santiaga770
    @Santiaga770 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I play American football in Europe (yes it exists) and there’s many teams that have been here for many years, the community is there and I’m sure that starting in Europe won’t be hard

  • @samuelward-butler9783
    @samuelward-butler9783 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid Frank!

  • @natestewart7428
    @natestewart7428 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was like a perfect video

  • @lucasr2050
    @lucasr2050 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rams players when they have a game at home then a thursday night game in london 😭😭😭

  • @samplautz5586
    @samplautz5586 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The biggest thing they will have to overcome is jet lag and low energy levels for the teams in Europe. I think that’s a significant concern, and also the teams that will need to travel there. You are going to either need to extend the season or spread out the jet lag among teams as evenly as possible

    • @Duckbasteires
      @Duckbasteires ปีที่แล้ว

      or you make it that the europe teams first play all their away games, than their home games and if a team plays a europe team twice they just stay here for a week

  • @gracielynn9623
    @gracielynn9623 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it’d make more sense to have an international division. Perhaps teams in Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal, one in Mexico City, one in London and one in Germany. Would make more sense and less travel.

  • @167thSpartan
    @167thSpartan ปีที่แล้ว

    The best way to do this would be to add 8 teams in total, 1 extra team per division.
    The current 17 game schedule is
    6 games (home + away) against same division rivals, 4 games from an AFC division, and 4 games from an NFC division. That's 14 games, with 3 random ones thrown in. Just convert 2 of those 3 games into another home+away couplet from a new Division rival.
    This is just me laying out a fantasy scenario ignoring actual logistics, but I'd like to place a team into
    Toronto, Canada
    London, England
    Frankfurt, Germany
    Mexico City, Mexico
    Tokyo/Osaka, Japan
    And then there's 3 that could go in the Midwest and Hawaii

  • @squidMB
    @squidMB ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If the NFL expands before Seattle gets a basketball team again i’d be shocked

  • @george217
    @george217 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first NFL game I saw live was in London. It was packed. And not only with Americans...

  • @titoestevez5819
    @titoestevez5819 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shout out to the guy with the Kapernick 🙌

  • @TheSSUltimateGoku
    @TheSSUltimateGoku ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There’s no way in hell that there will ever be a Europe division I can assure you of that. The NFL is having trouble just getting the players association to get on board about another regular season game. There’s no way that would ever get approved. The NFL doesn’t even seem intent on expanding passed 32 since 2002 with the Houston Texans.

  • @BGYMix
    @BGYMix ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video Frank.

  • @fadhelgartam6840
    @fadhelgartam6840 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't wait to see brits fan chanting in an NFL match

  • @douglasleavy5147
    @douglasleavy5147 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well done. Good job.

  • @Kailengrimm22
    @Kailengrimm22 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great Frank!

  • @ianlangsev5828
    @ianlangsev5828 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I could see England and Scotland both getting a team and then Germany getting the other two.

    • @subgum3403
      @subgum3403 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      London amsterdam 2 german

  • @amandahess4556
    @amandahess4556 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They should also set a division up in mexico
    The people there loved it when the niners played the cardinals there

  • @Mcato610
    @Mcato610 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The European division wouldn’t be able to acquire any free agents. Making players move to Europe is not attractive to FA. The teams would be really bad.

  • @user-dc1wy9ez9u
    @user-dc1wy9ez9u ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They should make the xfl an official development league and make it in Europe

  • @scotttild
    @scotttild 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I highly doubt we see full time NFL teams in Europe any time soon. More games maybe, full time franchises I don’t think so. Who is going to want to sign with London and pay the taxes and basically get doubly screwed or Germany and deal with their high cots of living. I doubt very much many players are going to want to go full time in Europe.

  • @toogyman
    @toogyman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not anytime soon
    Starting a new team in London would initially create a spark and some fan support ( remember NFLs fans in London have their favourite teams already and wouldn’t automatically switch to the local team just like that ) to sustain interest they would have to compete and win difficult for an expansion team that is 3000 miles away from the rest of the league
    London has about 20 stadiums that can seat 20000 plus with 5 that can hold over 60000 you start losing and the interest wanes they will end playing in the smallest of these
    You need also local boys to be part of it , yeah there might be a few Rugby players who could change code but transition is hard if you don’t have local interest then it’s just a team of American players playing an american sport again if you are winning maybe okay but getting pancaked every week it not going to work
    It’s been tried before in other sports Super Rugby in the southern hemisphere had teams on 3 continents and it never worked that well , teams went on tour to play their away games in batches to limit the travel burden so you had weeks on end where your team was on the road attendance in the games drifted away