Stephen A Smith a supposed Knicks fan, had a chance to vote for Brunson to be an all-star and voted for Donovan Mitchell. Can we stop calling Stephen A a knicks fans. This is pathetic, that whenever he talks about the Knicks, it's negative.
Him and Brunson are worthy. Mitchell’s on a team that has a slightly worse record despite his 2nd and 3rd best players having missed over half the season. Just cuz he’s a Knicks fan doesn’t mean he can’t be reasonable
Steven A. is a big reason why Jalen Brunson is not getting the respect that he deserves around the league and fans. His theatrics day in and day out about the Knicks not having a superstar is a huge reason for Brunson getting snubbed again at the all-star game. 😢😢😢 Stand up and support our guys Knicks fans. I do think we need a bench player to take IQ's place.
This guy is just a straight knicks hater and thinks he's a real fan. We've been trending upward for the past years but he's just blatantly complaining that we dont have a star pg when we do..
As a die-hard Knicks fan for my entire life, Chiney couldn't have said it any better. She said the hate is loud, and the love is much quieter. She is telling no lies about that!
Kinda feel bad for perk. You could tell that was a big moment for him and he had a whole thing planned and Stephen a just came on and yelled the whole time. U could tell he was mad
Big perk said it right. S.A. Smith caught upon the buyers market cuz he want Donavon Mitchell but we need just the right piece to add to this team. We're building something special. If we keep playing this good nba finals in play.
i still think we need another piece a murray brunson backcourt would be ideal with dante coming in as a 6th man lighting 2nd units up to have a chance at getting past boston in a 7 game series. but sas is ridiculous
@@gotflava1 exactly man we have a young team and playing g this well man I could just imagine the ceiling if we and the right piece whether it's a starter or a superstar ir a bench player can't wait to see who they add without disrupting the chemistry of how they playing now
This is the same Stephen A. that had courtside seats to a Knicks game against the Heat and left because they were getting blown out only to miss an epic 4th quarter comeback. Side note, why is this man so obsessed with Donovan Mitchell the assets needed to get him on their own make him a nonstarter aside from not being the right fit.
SAS mad because he lost alot of money on fantasy duel thinking nuggets was gonna blow out the knicks,SAS a fraud abd onky cares about money and vacations
If The Knicks make noise in the playoffs we dont want SAS rooting for us or picking us. Stick with the Pacers and the Cavs. I always hear ppl say "if you can make it in NY, you can make it anywhere" dude is making it, and still doesn't get his flowers. NYK "FANS" have suffered, SAS is NOT a NYK FAN. Brunson > Mitchell.
stephen a smith aint never satisfied with the knicks. they can win the championship and the next day he'll say "im concerned we wont win another championship for 30 years"
No. It’s just we all know that Brunson is a really good player but he’s just too small to be THE guy on a champions ship team. Steph and Isaiah Thomas are anomalies.
@@EyeLoveTheStars brunson is not the problem its more so randle. randle at this point of his career is suppose to be a superstar but he continues to underachieve in the playoffs unlike brunson. if randle chokes in the playoffs again i think you guys need to move him for that superstar that you need to win the chip
Jalen Brunson is practically Tom Thibodeau created player , Think about it Rick Brunson played for Van Gundy while Thibs was the assistant coach. Thins eventually became head coach in Chicago 2010 and hires Rick Brunson as his assistant. Brunson was 14years old and learned to play ball in a Rick/Thibs system and has won a championship on every level so far… y’all watch out for the Knicks cause now Thibs got a PG he practically seen grow up and all his type of players, hold teams to under 100 is wild in this era .
@@KlepacMovies because he has a national platform and his takes aren't reflective of what the vibe in the city is. So in turn the casual fan will fall back in the narrative that we're still that laughing stock instead of realizing that we've been building the right way for the last 4 years
Espn has turn into a comedy show with their use of Stephen A. Kendrick Perkins taking the time to highlight the knicks impact and they throw Stephen A on here for shits and giggles. Makes mainstream nba analysts look so bad.
The Knicks fan base can't overpower an entire country. The rest of the country knows Dame way more than Brunson. And the media has been spoon feeding Haliburton (deserved) to the fans. Brunson didn't have a chance as a starter when the fans vote is worth 50%.
doesnt help that brunsons name isnt recognizable among casuals. Everyone knows about dame lillard (dame time marketable af), plus he got the backing of Portland and Milwaukee, and maybe even all of Greece since hes teaming with Giannis. Also with how the media keeps talking about brunson, its never about how hes playing good or whatever, its always about how hes not a 1A or how hes too small smh
Supposed Knicks fan Stephen A decides to harp on the negatives of the best team in basketball rn and instead of voting their best player for an all star spot he possibly costs him by voting someone else and explains why others are more deserving on national tv. We don't claim this fraud
Steve a will be negative with the knicks no matter what they do.. you know why???? Cause it’s all an act and thats what sells with him and espn.. if he is loving them and complimenting them all the time its not the same (for whatever reason) yea he may really be a Knick fan or was cause he grew up in queens but its still an act with the hate
@@Jayoplanternobjectively they are inexperienced. Duece is learning his craft and Grimes, Hart, precious looking to get more cohesion. I think the Knicks need another playmaker such as Dejounte. But they don’t suck
Stephen A is NOT wrong. Thibbs' history shows that he has a bad tendency (Keyword: tendency) to overplay his starters & run them into the ground... until they get badly injured. That's why he has never gotten past the 2nd round of the Playoffs as a coach (except once). Thibbs did it in Chicago and ran Derrick Rose, Luol Deng & Kirk Hinrich into the ground, until injury. And he also did it in Minnesota after that, when he ran Jeff Teague & Zach Lavine into the ground, until injury. And if you haven't noticed, Thibbs has constantly been playing either Jalen Brunson or Julius Randle with the 2nd unit most of the time, instead of giving them more rest on the bench. This strategy would not be a problem if Thibbs played MORE guys off his bench, like Steve Kerr does. However, Thibbs only plays about 9 or 10 guys during the regular season... and when the playoffs come around, he will reduce that down to playing just 7 or maybe 8 guys max, while all of the Knicks' opponents will be playing 10-12 man rotations, to try to outlast them. That's not hate. That's just facts. Based on Thibb's coaching history & his stubborn substitution tendencies. Hopefully this year Thibbs has learned from his past & he won't repeat these same mistakes & will learn to trust his bench a bit more & give them more playing time... in order to rest the starters, when the playoffs come around.
As a full blooded New Yorker myself this man Stephen A is a casual Knick fan…he just be talking just to talk Brunson is a star and needs to be treated like one stop playing with my boy
Reality is, Brunson is the true definition of hard work over significant talent, he just doesn’t play, he is an architect on offense, a sniper on the horizon…when it’s all said and done, his numbers will be greater, than many of great hype!!!
As a Knicks fan, Stephen A. Smith is the most media-manufactured, fake, casual fan we have, if he actually is one. He regurgitates the same takes, keeps pushing a Donovan Mitchell trade for no reason, and never gives Brunson the respect he deserves.
SAS is fugazi. This dude claims to be a hardcore Knicks fan but he didn't even know who Isiah Hartenstein was. "I have to watch SOME GUY called Hartenstin"....dude is a disgrace and is only there to make Knick fans look bad to casuals around the world.
Funny because i see Grimes, Mcbride, Achiuwa and Sims getting bench minutes consistently. Once Mitch is back and Hartenstein is on the bench, we have 5 decent bench options that will be in the rotation... So...
It's pathetic to see Stevie tried to bring some karda drama to the knicks while the Thibodeau is the most successfull era (or maybe tied with the d'Anthony era) since the 90s. Even if the Knicks will never made at least the CF, Thibodeau gives the knicks fans postseason almost every years, which is a tour de force in the modern era.
but have to use facts though, can't just argue with feelings.Brunson is 13th and Randle is 15th in terms of minutes per game. Big names that will be in the playoffs this year like Maxey, KD, Luka, Book, Tatum, Fox and Anthony "Muscles falling off the bone" Davis are all playing more minutes but you'd never know that by how he's talking about Thibs.
Perk is awesome & he’s completely right, Knicks fans & the organization really need to show up & give Jalen Brunson love. One of the biggest fanbases in the league & we can’t get Jalen Brunson to be a starter in the All Star game when he deserves it
Amazing how the bench played almost as much minutes as the starters last night and SAS is saying Thibs is over playing his starters that’s a lame excuse for the nuggets. Thibs does over play his starters sometimes but not in the last 3 games.!
@@smoovay if he does, then why are Jalen Brunson and Julius Randle not even in the top 10 of minutes per game amongst all active players, yet way more injury prone guys like AD and KD are? Rose's horrible landing form in his peak caused his knee injuries, not overplaying from Thibs. I can also tell you the moment the Knicks add a guy like Malcom Brogdon to their bench, the starters' minutes are only going to get lower.
@@MrRapmaster19 Malcom Brogdon? you add him to your bench he's staying on your bench you talked about the wheelchair gang he's a high-ranking member of it...........
that is Thibs' reputation but I don't see how he is overplaying his starters on this Knicks team. I think SAS is taking it easy and not doing his research.
Brunson and Randle are 13th & 15th respectively in Minutes Per Game. OG would rank 11th based on just his minutes on the Knicks. Players above Brunson & Randle include: Maxey, VanFleet, Derozan, Durant, Luka, Trae, Booker, Tatum, & Davis Are those players being run into the ground?
I agree I think it’s a bit overblown. But it isn’t nothing. Good news it didn’t seem to bother Brunson much in the playoffs last year. He was great. I’m only worried about Randle, and about the rest of the team staying healthy. If they can do that I think the Knicks can make some noise.
Stephen A, when you walk out of a game before the comeback in front of the whole Garden, when you admit to not voting for JB for the ASG, you don't get to say WE. Find me ONE Knicks fan ANYWHERE that actually wants you anywhere near orange and blue.
Knicks had 8 players with over 20 mins on the floor and no one had over 36 mins, against Brooklyn this week, in a close game. Brunson and Randle are 13th and 15th in minutes played.
thibs did this in chicago too! I understand what stephen is saying and at the same time there is hope. He has been here as a knicks fan for so long. and I gotta say, looking really bright for the knicks, coming from a bulls fan.
It’s time to pull the Knick card away from SAS. He’s is not a true die hard Knick fan smh lol. We supposed to see this man smiling from ear to ear coming on the show because the beat down the Knicks gave Denver last night. Yet we get SAS finding something to complain about the Knicks smh. Big Perk sounds like more of a Knick fan than SAS and that’s sad from a man claiming he’s a Knick fan born from NY. Let it be Lakers beating Denver like how the Knicks did and he would be claiming the Lakers are back and ready to make a run. Keep that same energy SAS. We will worry about all of that when we cross that bridge…
@@lucasmartinez5703 I do watch all the games but I feel like when Brunson is resting on the bench don’t get me wrong I love deuce and I feel like he can be a solid role player but I think he needs to more time so maybe we could get a veteran points guard off the bench but if not run this team to the playoffs I don’t mind that either
Fans be crying about load management and soft players and then also be crying about 65 game minimums for awards and players playing 38-40 minutes in a game. Make up your minds lol.
Stephen ain’t no real Knick fan. I can say for all Knicks fans we think he’s a clown he doesn’t even watch the games. How can he even think Brunson not an all star starter he’s playing better than dame this year and I know if bucks could undo the trade and bring back Jru they would.
It’s a zero sum game for Stephen A. Either they win a championship or they break his heart. 5 years ago our roster featured guys like Trey Burke, Ron Baker, and Frank Ntilikina getting significant minutes. Now we can talk about competing for the Eastern Conference title without sounding like delusional morons. I just enjoy being relevant, whether we win titles or not.
This is Thibbs most talented team he’s coached since the 2010s Bulls. But 100% you can see the reason Thibbs never goes far with his team is coming a mile away. Games like last night, occasionally this needs to be the plan. But the run people into the ground only works if you have a roster of legit 10-12 players you sub 5 in, 5 out.
Brunson and Randle are 13th & 15th respectively in Minutes Per Game. OG would rank 11th based on just his minutes on the Knicks. Players above Brunson & Randle include: *Maxey, VanFleet, Derozan, Durant, Luka, Trae, Booker, Tatum, & Davis* Are those players being run into the ground?
What Thibbs did to D Rose should let you know everything you need to know about him. He should be on the coaching staff as a defensive coordinator, not a HC. He's been running teams into the ground since his time with the Bulls in the early 2010s.
Spot on! Thats exactly what I see too. I think Thibbs ran Rose and put too much on Rose to the point where he hurt himself. We need that balanced scoring otherwise it wont work.
Stephen A literally came to the show so that Perk can’t say what he wanted to say. That is literally why there is a huge thing called Knicks for clicks and also the reason why any Knick, not just Brunson, will never get that much love
The so called Knicks fan is being scolded about why the Knicks are good. Stephen a is not a Knicks fan he’s a puppet. They sent him on this show literally to rain on any parade. That’s his role to espn the crying Knicks fan. But that doesn’t work when they’re good so now he’s scrambling and looking stupid
Thibs is the best coach this team has had since JVG or Riley, that run players to the ground narrative is exaggerated and he wouldn’t have to play the stars so much if we had a legit backup PG and PF. Also SAS sucks.
He spitting about thibs. Great coach slightly underrated but he’s always had a problem of running his favorites into the ground in regular season. It’s just his coaching style where he really believes in guys who he feels does everything he wants so he’ll run them over most other players because he feels he can rely on them the most to do what he wants
Bulls fan here. We told you all about Thibs years ago but you refused to give Chicago fair coverage enough to point it out. Thibs doesn't utilize his entire roster. Never has.
Bench? The Knicks have the 4th ranked bench in the NBA with an impressive +327. Look it up. Only the Pelicans, Thunder and Warriors are higher. Fact. When they play, they are playing quite well. Hart, Grimes, McBride, Precious, etc. aren't shabby at all. I would make Mitchell Robinson come off the bench if he returns and keep iHart starting. With the easier schedule, the Knicks will be getting bigger leads and will be playing the bench more often. McBride and Precious are underrated. If Grimes plays like he is capable of, the bench will look really good. We know Hart's strength. The Jazz have the 2nd highest scoring bench but they are -21. The bench plays offense and DEFENSE. Don't just look at points scored. Knicks will use the bench more as the schedule is getting easier.
I thank everybody but SAS putting up for Brunson. Not only is he a star and consistently carries this team game in and game out, but he shows up *IN THE PLAYOFFS* time and again! He's solidified himself as an absolute DAWG and even tho you might give Haliburton a slight nod in the regular season he has not produced the way Brunson has consistently in the playoffs on two diff teams now. Show my fckin dawg some respect!
There's a reason Brunson finished #2 in the media voting only behind Haliburton, cause that dude is the only guard in the east who's better than Brunson. He's THAT good. If he plays like he usually has in the playoffs, as well as Julius Randle being healthy and fixing his playoff woes, the Knicks are going to go far.
I know I’m not the only one who said this, but New Yorkers are busy so a lot of us forgot to vote or didn’t have the time. When I heard the time I put in my Jalen, Brunson and Donovan Mitchell back court vote for the All-Star game these are casuals that voted they didn’t know who Tyrese Halliburton was until the in season tournament. And Damian Lillard I knew he would be a starter because he’s never started in the All-Star game before and plus he has the superstar recognition. But Bronson has outplayed all these eastern conference point guards. And also no Knicks fan believes Stephen A is a real Knicks fan. What’s up with somebody of these media analyst hating on Jalen Brunson or heading on the Knicks entirely?
Reminder that no New York Knicks fans like Stephen A. Smith.
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Is it because he's a bandwaggoner mr nintendo youtuber ?
Is it because he's a bandwaggoner mr nintendo youtuber ?
Is it because he's a bandwaggoner mr nintendo youtuber ?
I’m sure he cares!! 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Stephen A Smith a supposed Knicks fan, had a chance to vote for Brunson to be an all-star and voted for Donovan Mitchell. Can we stop calling Stephen A a knicks fans. This is pathetic, that whenever he talks about the Knicks, it's negative.
He calls himself a Knicks fan. Actual fans know he's not. At least not anymore.
Facts
We don't accept that clown in our fanbase
Him and Brunson are worthy. Mitchell’s on a team that has a slightly worse record despite his 2nd and 3rd best players having missed over half the season. Just cuz he’s a Knicks fan doesn’t mean he can’t be reasonable
I Never saw him as a fan. True fans don't sway away from the team regardless. He flip flops all the time. He's a clown
Steven A. is a big reason why Jalen Brunson is not getting the respect that he deserves around the league and fans. His theatrics day in and day out about the Knicks not having a superstar is a huge reason for Brunson getting snubbed again at the all-star game. 😢😢😢
Stand up and support our guys Knicks fans.
I do think we need a bench player to take IQ's place.
He’s not a superstar tho no disrespect, he is a star though
We don't claim Steven a. As a Knicks fan. We accept perk more
Agreeee!!! Perk shows more love to NY than SAS
Perk is not a Knicks fan.
@@ClaxtonBay123perk has been the only highlighting and praising the knicks!
@@truebrowncanadiannot true. The most unqualified is Candace Parker and Becky Hammon. Cringe
Facts
This is the best Knicks team in a long time…
SAS said his concern was not having a SUPERSTAR when the trade was done. Nothing about minutes. Get outta here SAS
His biggest issue was not that we didn’t have a bench. That is a blatant lie lol. NY fans don’t honor SAS.
This guy is just a straight knicks hater and thinks he's a real fan. We've been trending upward for the past years but he's just blatantly complaining that we dont have a star pg when we do..
#FudgeUSAS
@@Jamojjamou guys don't have a star and he is speaking facts
@@RyanC143so what is Brunson
As a die-hard Knicks fan for my entire life, Chiney couldn't have said it any better. She said the hate is loud, and the love is much quieter. She is telling no lies about that!
Kinda feel bad for perk. You could tell that was a big moment for him and he had a whole thing planned and Stephen a just came on and yelled the whole time. U could tell he was mad
Stephen a is a joke
Big perk said it right. S.A. Smith caught upon the buyers market cuz he want Donavon Mitchell but we need just the right piece to add to this team. We're building something special. If we keep playing this good nba finals in play.
yep, and I'm not so sure a Mitchell/Brunson backcourt is what we really need now. That would be a massive hit to our defense in the backcourt.
i still think we need another piece a murray brunson backcourt would be ideal with dante coming in as a 6th man lighting 2nd units up to have a chance at getting past boston in a 7 game series. but sas is ridiculous
So in other words SAS wants the Knicks to be the Lakers of the east. No thank you!!!
@@gotflava1 exactly man we have a young team and playing g this well man I could just imagine the ceiling if we and the right piece whether it's a starter or a superstar ir a bench player can't wait to see who they add without disrupting the chemistry of how they playing now
Perk could lowkey star as Chubacca in next Star wars. Got all the same mannerisms if he just put the costume on and keep talking
This is the same Stephen A. that had courtside seats to a Knicks game against the Heat and left because they were getting blown out only to miss an epic 4th quarter comeback. Side note, why is this man so obsessed with Donovan Mitchell the assets needed to get him on their own make him a nonstarter aside from not being the right fit.
All the media & ppl care about is names tht come w big numbers on any given night. Not the actual game of basketball. Its for a storyline.
So now it’s Knicks fans fault that every time JB gets brought up it’s about what he isn’t instead of what he is.
SAS IS a CLOWN we don't respect thst goofy in NYC
He they saying its jnicks fans fault he wasn’t voted a starter bcuz they chose to vote for other teams players
He’s a Knicks fan with little logic. Don’t generalize all of us
SAS mad because he lost alot of money on fantasy duel thinking nuggets was gonna blow out the knicks,SAS a fraud abd onky cares about money and vacations
If The Knicks make noise in the playoffs we dont want SAS rooting for us or picking us. Stick with the Pacers and the Cavs. I always hear ppl say "if you can make it in NY, you can make it anywhere" dude is making it, and still doesn't get his flowers. NYK "FANS" have suffered, SAS is NOT a NYK FAN. Brunson > Mitchell.
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stephen a smith aint never satisfied with the knicks. they can win the championship and the next day he'll say "im concerned we wont win another championship for 30 years"
even after 3 championships he will cry for donavan mitchell
That's exactly what he going to say
Knicks haven’t won since the 70’s he has a reason to be concerned.
No. It’s just we all know that Brunson is a really good player but he’s just too small to be THE guy on a champions ship team. Steph and Isaiah Thomas are anomalies.
@@EyeLoveTheStars brunson is not the problem its more so randle. randle at this point of his career is suppose to be a superstar but he continues to underachieve in the playoffs unlike brunson. if randle chokes in the playoffs again i think you guys need to move him for that superstar that you need to win the chip
This the Same SAS that said the OG trade "didn't move him" and they 11-2 since the trade
11-2 lol
@@chriskatona1705yea 11-2 I don't get it what so funny? You probably think 2-11🤦🏻♂️🤣🤣🤣
@therealstoic8242 😂😂😂
@@chriskatona1705 You right. It is funny how we are dominating
@@therealstoic8242 the original comment said 10-2, I fixed it. I’m excited about this team.
Jalen Brunson is practically Tom Thibodeau created player , Think about it Rick Brunson played for Van Gundy while Thibs was the assistant coach. Thins eventually became head coach in Chicago 2010 and hires Rick Brunson as his assistant. Brunson was 14years old and learned to play ball in a Rick/Thibs system and has won a championship on every level so far… y’all watch out for the Knicks cause now Thibs got a PG he practically seen grow up and all his type of players, hold teams to under 100 is wild in this era .
I can speak for ALL Knicks fans.........Stephen A is not one of us, nor is accepted by ANY of us
Just curious. Why don't Knicks fans like SAS? He's always talking about orange and blue skies...
@@KlepacMovies because he has a national platform and his takes aren't reflective of what the vibe in the city is. So in turn the casual fan will fall back in the narrative that we're still that laughing stock instead of realizing that we've been building the right way for the last 4 years
@@flizzyflexx57Sharing is caring. Thank you good sir.
SAS is that dude that don’t buy the food, don’t cook but always finds himself to the table looking for a plate. Ultimate fair weather fan.
Espn has turn into a comedy show with their use of Stephen A. Kendrick Perkins taking the time to highlight the knicks impact and they throw Stephen A on here for shits and giggles. Makes mainstream nba analysts look so bad.
Didn't Brunson and Randle sit that whole fourth quarter?
Exactly
They're also averaging a measly 35 minutes a game, Lebron (39 yr old) is averaging 34
He's done this kind of thing in other games too. I think people exaggerate this.
Yup
@@NarutoManiac300ahahahahah what are you smoking bro,Lebron this season averages 24.6 ppg ...you crayyyy
Knicks on top and the media hates it isn’t about how bad they are anymore.
Knicks on top…of what? 😂🤣😂
Well, 4th in the Eastern Conference 7 games back of Boston.
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@@ethanhuntemcee1663if u had to ask that question. Then you're a goddammit idiot. Look in the mirror and slap that laugh emotion on ya face
@@Paulafan5OG has made them scary. Those guys play defense like no other.
I like Perkins comedy part. Keep doing it!!
The Knicks fan base can't overpower an entire country. The rest of the country knows Dame way more than Brunson. And the media has been spoon feeding Haliburton (deserved) to the fans. Brunson didn't have a chance as a starter when the fans vote is worth 50%.
doesnt help that brunsons name isnt recognizable among casuals. Everyone knows about dame lillard (dame time marketable af), plus he got the backing of Portland and Milwaukee, and maybe even all of Greece since hes teaming with Giannis. Also with how the media keeps talking about brunson, its never about how hes playing good or whatever, its always about how hes not a 1A or how hes too small smh
Both good comments
THANK YOU
Dame is more known but he is not better than brunson sorry
People keep talking about Hali or Brunson but it should be Brunson or Dame
Bro I agreeeee! I think Hali and Jalen can play both in the starting lineup
Who in TF said Hali shouldn’t be starting lol it’s def Brunson or dame btw it should have been Brunson
Supposed Knicks fan Stephen A decides to harp on the negatives of the best team in basketball rn and instead of voting their best player for an all star spot he possibly costs him by voting someone else and explains why others are more deserving on national tv. We don't claim this fraud
Steve a will be negative with the knicks no matter what they do.. you know why???? Cause it’s all an act and thats what sells with him and espn.. if he is loving them and complimenting them all the time its not the same (for whatever reason) yea he may really be a Knick fan or was cause he grew up in queens but its still an act with the hate
He is not wrong the Knicks bench sucks
@@Jayoplanternobjectively they are inexperienced. Duece is learning his craft and Grimes, Hart, precious looking to get more cohesion. I think the Knicks need another playmaker such as Dejounte. But they don’t suck
Stephen A is NOT wrong. Thibbs' history shows that he has a bad tendency (Keyword: tendency) to overplay his starters & run them into the ground... until they get badly injured. That's why he has never gotten past the 2nd round of the Playoffs as a coach (except once). Thibbs did it in Chicago and ran Derrick Rose, Luol Deng & Kirk Hinrich into the ground, until injury. And he also did it in Minnesota after that, when he ran Jeff Teague & Zach Lavine into the ground, until injury.
And if you haven't noticed, Thibbs has constantly been playing either Jalen Brunson or Julius Randle with the 2nd unit most of the time, instead of giving them more rest on the bench. This strategy would not be a problem if Thibbs played MORE guys off his bench, like Steve Kerr does. However, Thibbs only plays about 9 or 10 guys during the regular season... and when the playoffs come around, he will reduce that down to playing just 7 or maybe 8 guys max, while all of the Knicks' opponents will be playing 10-12 man rotations, to try to outlast them.
That's not hate. That's just facts. Based on Thibb's coaching history & his stubborn substitution tendencies. Hopefully this year Thibbs has learned from his past & he won't repeat these same mistakes & will learn to trust his bench a bit more & give them more playing time... in order to rest the starters, when the playoffs come around.
Can we sign some petition or something to stop SAS from talking about the Knicks??
We should all write to Dolan and request he ban sas from ever entering msg
I would love that
Stephen A ain’t no Knicks fan
As a full blooded New Yorker myself this man Stephen A is a casual Knick fan…he just be talking just to talk Brunson is a star and needs to be treated like one stop playing with my boy
Reality is, Brunson is the true definition of hard work over significant talent, he just doesn’t play, he is an architect on offense, a sniper on the horizon…when it’s all said and done, his numbers will be greater, than many of great hype!!!
Shout out to perk always welcome in ny
SAS. Biggest fan pessimist. Brunson tied with Dame for starter score. That was the story. But He keeps comparing Brunson to Haliburton
5:14 that’s the Stephen A look when he’s learning something
Stephen A smith is not a fan of the New York knicks
Preach
Thank you. The fact he voted for Donovan Mitchell over Jalen Brunson in his media voting is annoying me.
Clearly!
Clearly but he definitely is a clown,he shouldn't even be allowed to promote he is a knicks fan im sick of him
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Having Steven A. call in rather than be in the office is comedy gold! I prefer this over then him being in the studio
As a Knicks fan, Stephen A. Smith is the most media-manufactured, fake, casual fan we have, if he actually is one. He regurgitates the same takes, keeps pushing a Donovan Mitchell trade for no reason, and never gives Brunson the respect he deserves.
SAS is fugazi. This dude claims to be a hardcore Knicks fan but he didn't even know who Isiah Hartenstein was. "I have to watch SOME GUY called Hartenstin"....dude is a disgrace and is only there to make Knick fans look bad to casuals around the world.
He doesn't give same credit to international players usually he is bias
Funny because i see Grimes, Mcbride, Achiuwa and Sims getting bench minutes consistently. Once Mitch is back and Hartenstein is on the bench, we have 5 decent bench options that will be in the rotation...
So...
I like Kendrick P. a lot now this brother is so accurate and supporting the rights stuff. This brother is amazing.
It's pathetic to see Stevie tried to bring some karda drama to the knicks while the Thibodeau is the most successfull era (or maybe tied with the d'Anthony era) since the 90s.
Even if the Knicks will never made at least the CF, Thibodeau gives the knicks fans postseason almost every years, which is a tour de force in the modern era.
this was what everyone said when he was in chicago, minnesota and now the knicks. it's not exactly news.
but have to use facts though, can't just argue with feelings.Brunson is 13th and Randle is 15th in terms of minutes per game. Big names that will be in the playoffs this year like Maxey, KD, Luka, Book, Tatum, Fox and Anthony "Muscles falling off the bone" Davis are all playing more minutes but you'd never know that by how he's talking about Thibs.
Perk is awesome & he’s completely right, Knicks fans & the organization really need to show up & give Jalen Brunson love. One of the biggest fanbases in the league & we can’t get Jalen Brunson to be a starter in the All Star game when he deserves it
I'm not moved by Stephen A Smith's supposed loyalty to the Knicks
Stephen A is not a knicks fan
Amazing how the bench played almost as much minutes as the starters last night and SAS is saying Thibs is over playing his starters that’s a lame excuse for the nuggets.
Thibs does over play his starters sometimes but not in the last 3 games.!
They played more cuz it was a blow out lol anyways they ain’t doing nothing in the playoffs so who cares 😂
SAS is right. Thibs does overplay his starters and they'll need a few changes if they expect to go deep in the playoffs.
@@smoovay if he does, then why are Jalen Brunson and Julius Randle not even in the top 10 of minutes per game amongst all active players, yet way more injury prone guys like AD and KD are? Rose's horrible landing form in his peak caused his knee injuries, not overplaying from Thibs. I can also tell you the moment the Knicks add a guy like Malcom Brogdon to their bench, the starters' minutes are only going to get lower.
@@MrRapmaster19 Malcom Brogdon? you add him to your bench he's staying on your bench you talked about the wheelchair gang he's a high-ranking member of it...........
that is Thibs' reputation but I don't see how he is overplaying his starters on this Knicks team. I think SAS is taking it easy and not doing his research.
Stephen A Smith, the most non-Knicks fan Knicks fan ever.
Brunson and Randle are 13th & 15th respectively in Minutes Per Game. OG would rank 11th based on just his minutes on the Knicks.
Players above Brunson & Randle include: Maxey, VanFleet, Derozan, Durant, Luka, Trae, Booker, Tatum, & Davis
Are those players being run into the ground?
Both can be true. It’s right they aren’t playing 40 minutes. But they could leave the game earlier in blowouts
I agree I think it’s a bit overblown. But it isn’t nothing. Good news it didn’t seem to bother Brunson much in the playoffs last year. He was great. I’m only worried about Randle, and about the rest of the team staying healthy. If they can do that I think the Knicks can make some noise.
It’s been a myth that has been perpetuated for years about Thibs lol
+qwerty He sat them down the entire fourth quarter against Denver.
By the time SAS comes around on the Knicks, he's gonna look like he hopped on the bandwagon. Dude isn't a fan.
SAS DOES NOT SPEAK FOR US KNICKS FAN. We don't claim him.
Stephen A, when you walk out of a game before the comeback in front of the whole Garden, when you admit to not voting for JB for the ASG, you don't get to say WE. Find me ONE Knicks fan ANYWHERE that actually wants you anywhere near orange and blue.
Knicks had 8 players with over 20 mins on the floor and no one had over 36 mins, against Brooklyn this week, in a close game.
Brunson and Randle are 13th and 15th in minutes played.
If Malika is agreeing with you you know you’re wrong
thibs did this in chicago too! I understand what stephen is saying and at the same time there is hope. He has been here as a knicks fan for so long. and I gotta say, looking really bright for the knicks, coming from a bulls fan.
SA, the beef isn’t that Haliburton started over Brunson, it’s that Dame started over him. Brunson deserved to be there over Dame, period
It’s time to pull the Knick card away from SAS. He’s is not a true die hard Knick fan smh lol. We supposed to see this man smiling from ear to ear coming on the show because the beat down the Knicks gave Denver last night. Yet we get SAS finding something to complain about the Knicks smh. Big Perk sounds like more of a Knick fan than SAS and that’s sad from a man claiming he’s a Knick fan born from NY. Let it be Lakers beating Denver like how the Knicks did and he would be claiming the Lakers are back and ready to make a run. Keep that same energy SAS. We will worry about all of that when we cross that bridge…
When Perk said “when I land in LaGuardia airport JFK he should see JB posters”💡😤
These dudes get days off, relax, Tibs running players to the ground is a bunch of nonsense.
Yup its always been a bunch of crap
You mean coach Thibs is coaching like…Coach Thibs? This is why drose’s knee shattered.
it was an acl tear.
Rose play was a big part of his injury. He's my favorite player and I'm from Chicago. If this took him out he would've eventually tore his acl
Jordan played all 82 even on the wizards,u basketball noobs need to shut up fr
@fearlessdemxnD rose was SOFT MJ played all 82 games even on the wizards and never had any major njury but nice try noob
@fearlessdemxnDrose was SOFT period
SAS missed the point of it being Bronson rather than Dame as starter. Hali is quite deserving.
This was fun to watch lol
Big perk is my favorite sports talk person
The only one who keeps it real
The New York Knicks will be the NBA Champions in 5 months🏀💫🏆
Im with A. Smith on this. As a Knicks fan, we’ve suffered. Brunson should be there over Dame.
He could've voted in Brunson but he voted Mitchell smh
Need to get Jalen Brunson some help
He can only do so much.
We have Julius Og we got divo who else you want Steph curry like cmon bro we have a lot of scores we need ball handlers and playmakers
Imagine saying this after the knicks blowout the defending champs by 38 💀
He has plenty of help. Watch the games.
@@lucasmartinez5703 I do watch all the games but I feel like when Brunson is resting on the bench don’t get me wrong I love deuce and I feel like he can be a solid role player but I think he needs to more time so maybe we could get a veteran points guard off the bench but if not run this team to the playoffs I don’t mind that either
No not you. I was referring to Zenigundam.
Fans be crying about load management and soft players and then also be crying about 65 game minimums for awards and players playing 38-40 minutes in a game. Make up your minds lol.
Thibs is a safety hazard for basketballs players careers
Stephen ain’t no real Knick fan. I can say for all Knicks fans we think he’s a clown he doesn’t even watch the games. How can he even think Brunson not an all star starter he’s playing better than dame this year and I know if bucks could undo the trade and bring back Jru they would.
WE LOVE PERK DONT EVER GET RID OF EM 🙏🏽
It’s a zero sum game for Stephen A. Either they win a championship or they break his heart. 5 years ago our roster featured guys like Trey Burke, Ron Baker, and Frank Ntilikina getting significant minutes. Now we can talk about competing for the Eastern Conference title without sounding like delusional morons. I just enjoy being relevant, whether we win titles or not.
This is Thibbs most talented team he’s coached since the 2010s Bulls. But 100% you can see the reason Thibbs never goes far with his team is coming a mile away. Games like last night, occasionally this needs to be the plan. But the run people into the ground only works if you have a roster of legit 10-12 players you sub 5 in, 5 out.
Brunson and Randle are 13th & 15th respectively in Minutes Per Game. OG would rank 11th based on just his minutes on the Knicks.
Players above Brunson & Randle include: *Maxey, VanFleet, Derozan, Durant, Luka, Trae, Booker, Tatum, & Davis*
Are those players being run into the ground?
You clueless..you no anything about my team
What Thibbs did to D Rose should let you know everything you need to know about him. He should be on the coaching staff as a defensive coordinator, not a HC. He's been running teams into the ground since his time with the Bulls in the early 2010s.
Spot on! Thats exactly what I see too. I think Thibbs ran Rose and put too much on Rose to the point where he hurt himself. We need that balanced scoring otherwise it wont work.
@@gotflava1it’s working pretty well now and we are adding at the deadline! Stop!
Stephen A literally came to the show so that Perk can’t say what he wanted to say.
That is literally why there is a huge thing called Knicks for clicks and also the reason why any Knick, not just Brunson, will never get that much love
@6:55 To 7:25Your one Hardest working in Game Right Now --->
--Stephen A Thank You very Much 😂😂😂😂
Stephen a : thibs running knicks into the ground
Julius Randle dislocated shoulder in 4th quarter of a blowout win 😮
The so called Knicks fan is being scolded about why the Knicks are good. Stephen a is not a Knicks fan he’s a puppet. They sent him on this show literally to rain on any parade. That’s his role to espn the crying Knicks fan. But that doesn’t work when they’re good so now he’s scrambling and looking stupid
Has Stephen A even been watching the last few games?? I miss IQ everyday, but Grimes and McBride are balling. Thank you Perk for standing up for us
i’m glad Brunson didn’t go to the all star let him rest
Thibs is the best coach this team has had since JVG or Riley, that run players to the ground narrative is exaggerated and he wouldn’t have to play the stars so much if we had a legit backup PG and PF.
Also SAS sucks.
LMAOOOOOOO I love how when the show gets into debates like this, Malika just sits there smiling the whole time enjoying the entertainment
Lmaooo perk getting scared was gold
He spitting about thibs. Great coach slightly underrated but he’s always had a problem of running his favorites into the ground in regular season. It’s just his coaching style where he really believes in guys who he feels does everything he wants so he’ll run them over most other players because he feels he can rely on them the most to do what he wants
Stephen A stop the bull crap you not a real Knicks fan
Ironic cuz J.B.and Julius are both averaging less minutes in Jauary than thry did in December and November
Halliburton startin cuz it’s in Indy
Wow!!! This was heated. Thanks for this review, I'm surprised!!
SAS is a 🤡. We Knicks fans don't claim him.
This Knicks team is way better than Melo's Knicks. It's an improvement.
SAS is the family member who gets put out every time he comes over.
FACTS, just stop showin up at this point.
😂😂
Bulls fan here. We told you all about Thibs years ago but you refused to give Chicago fair coverage enough to point it out. Thibs doesn't utilize his entire roster. Never has.
SAS is a 🤬🤬🤬🤬 we NEW YORKERS do NOT claim him
Bench? The Knicks have the 4th ranked bench in the NBA with an impressive +327. Look it up. Only the Pelicans, Thunder and Warriors are higher. Fact. When they play, they are playing quite well. Hart, Grimes, McBride, Precious, etc. aren't shabby at all. I would make Mitchell Robinson come off the bench if he returns and keep iHart starting. With the easier schedule, the Knicks will be getting bigger leads and will be playing the bench more often. McBride and Precious are underrated. If Grimes plays like he is capable of, the bench will look really good. We know Hart's strength. The Jazz have the 2nd highest scoring bench but they are -21. The bench plays offense and DEFENSE. Don't just look at points scored. Knicks will use the bench more as the schedule is getting easier.
That look on perk! Lolol 😆
SAS is just LOUD and WRONG religiously....and he's NOT a real Knicks fan
Can we return SA as a Knicks fan for someone else?
We should trade him for a box of cookies at the deadline
Kendrick Perkins is the best sports analyst in the game right now!!!
The only thing Perk spies is a box of Krispy Kreme
😂😂😂😂
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Stephan A is the ultimate fugazzi fan
I love wen big perc roll his eyes @ SAS🤣...
I thank everybody but SAS putting up for Brunson. Not only is he a star and consistently carries this team game in and game out, but he shows up *IN THE PLAYOFFS* time and again! He's solidified himself as an absolute DAWG and even tho you might give Haliburton a slight nod in the regular season he has not produced the way Brunson has consistently in the playoffs on two diff teams now. Show my fckin dawg some respect!
what does Brunson's Playoff prowess have to do with his Allstar case?
There's a reason Brunson finished #2 in the media voting only behind Haliburton, cause that dude is the only guard in the east who's better than Brunson. He's THAT good. If he plays like he usually has in the playoffs, as well as Julius Randle being healthy and fixing his playoff woes, the Knicks are going to go far.
This dude lost his fan card. Ban him from MSG.
He was like this coaching the Bulls which is how Rose got injured the first time
I know I’m not the only one who said this, but New Yorkers are busy so a lot of us forgot to vote or didn’t have the time. When I heard the time I put in my Jalen, Brunson and Donovan Mitchell back court vote for the All-Star game these are casuals that voted they didn’t know who Tyrese Halliburton was until the in season tournament. And Damian Lillard I knew he would be a starter because he’s never started in the All-Star game before and plus he has the superstar recognition. But Bronson has outplayed all these eastern conference point guards. And also no Knicks fan believes Stephen A is a real Knicks fan. What’s up with somebody of these media analyst hating on Jalen Brunson or heading on the Knicks entirely?