Partisan Resistance in Italy
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In this video, friend of the channel Deviant Ollam gives us an on site history lesson regarding the Italian Resistance. This movement was opposed not only to Fascism, but Communism and the Monarchy as well. They were particularly successful in Parma, holding out longer than any other location, but ultimately fell not to bullets or bombs - but to propaganda.
Resistance Memorials here in Chiavari (Genoa) depicts fighters armed with sten guns as well. In Italian pop culture the sten was the iconic Partigiani firearm (plenty dropped, coveted due to being a full auto weapon, compact and easy to disassemble and conceal)
Yup, the monument to partisans in my home village in Piemont also sports a sten gun.
What was the name of the film from the 60's and 70's where the family was sitting by the window in an apartment somewhere in the city center and listening to gunfire and someone said that it must have been a sten gun? I don't think the film was supposed to take place in ww2, but I don't know exactly anymore, I saw it as a child 20 years ago.
@@thasecondman My great grandmother was from Piemont , Colombo. nee Piantanida Great grandfather Inveruno, Castiglioni.nee Garavaglia Both came over to the U.S in the late 1920,s Antonio was in the Alpine div. in the first war.
Thanks Deviant! I know there's a part of the audience who hates it but I love the diversity of guest presenters Karl works with, from many voices we gain more balanced knowledge.
The part of the audience with the problem are facisct American gunbros who just want to LARP as SS troopers but remain shielded from critique for being fascist fucks.
@@tomigun5180 If you think the Italian anarchists are communists, it's truly a shame you ate less paint chips and avoided landmines as a child. Of course, the free market would only plant land mines in places that did not want them removed, right?
Seems like you missed the entire point of the video, coomrade.
You are exemplifying the angry unthinking, backshooting zealot not shown by the statue.
You've pigeonholed yourself. Reflect.
As an Italian follower of inRange I'm really grateful for your focus and interest in the italian resistance, which helped to shape, militarly and morally, alongside the allies, the democratic country in which I'm thankful to live.
So glad that you appreciated and enjoyed this 👍
Non sei solo :-)
I wouldn't say militarly, there are lots of nostagics in our army, unfortunately we got a history with that. Morally? Absolutely. viva la resistenza
My grandpa was a partisan, after deserting the army e joined his fellow steel-mill coworkers on the mountains near Genoa, fought from 1944 to 1945. I have a few pics of him with a Sten and some with a UD42, which he called "Marlin".
Proud to live today in Sestri Ponente, a working-class neighborhood where tanks and ships in were built during the war, where the Anarchists rose up against mussolini at the same time as the Oltretorrente in Parma.
Super glad to see careful work done about the origin of the Italian Rasistance, which is often overlooked.
Keep up the good work guys
Thank you for sharing your family history ✊🏽
@@DrFalken100 Thank you
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So Mussolini’s remodelling of Parma is a page taken straight from Napoleon IIIs remodelling of Paris to open narrow streets up to cavalry charges and rifle fire against armed barricades of the Faubourg Saint-Antoine, the Hôtel de Ville, the Montagne Sainte-Geneviève areas of the city.
And that lead me to think about old european vc modern american city building, i.e. narrow, winding streets vs multilane avenues (highways, etc)...
My Italian friend says that somehow everyone's granddad was a partisan, nobody's granddad was a fascii. It's amazing really. 😉
Lol
In Finland we had more Armoured division veterans than ever served in that unit.
Kinda: let's say that usually people that like to talk about what their grandparents were doing during the war, are the grandchildren of partisans.
One of my grandfather was indeed a partisan, lost an arm in april '45. The other one decided, given the possibility, to just hide and avoid being enlisted
@@jukkakopol7355 At least about 10 years ago the Veteran's Admin in the US was paying ex-POW benefits to over 15k Vietnam vets, even though less than 800 were ever captured and some of those didn't survive. Their policy is to not question.
My Grandfather was in prison during the war! To be honest it was because the fire station was relocated there after it was bombed but I like to tell the story.
This is great work! Thank you for doing the research, finding the right person to interview, and reminding us that the world is complicated. History is interesting because it's so messy, but we can forget that we're living through messy history right now. We stuff people into boxes because of one belief and those boxes get smaller and smaller. Nobody fits these boxes perfectly.
This was exellent!
My step grandfather was SAS and worked with the italin partisans. He didn't talk much about what he did but he did say that most of the work was communication and organizing supply drops to different groups. Unfortunately, certain groups didn't get along with others and would attack each other with the arms that was just dropped to them. So air drops and allocation of supplies had to be carefully organized so one didn't wipe out the other instead of fighting the real enemy, which did actually happen.
Italian partisans were a very diverse bunch, ranging from freedom fighters to hard assed communists, republicans (we did have a kingdom at that time) and simple convicts.
@Paulo Dacosta What kind of people claim the Americans had anything to do with Italy at that time?
This is about 20 years before that. The soldiers came back from the war which ended in 1918, that is who he was speaking about.
During WW2 the British Empire stood against Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy until December 1941.
After that the USA took a considerable interest both East and West.
as an Italian... This checks out.
Well, two italians that get along without problem when talking about politics? Impossible :-)
(PS: I'm from italy)
@Paulo Dacosta stai scherdando spero
As an italian, it always bring a tear to my eyes when i see people from around the world intrested in the real, difficult history of modern italy
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You earned a patron. You seem to have an understanding that you can lead a horse to water but you can't force it to drink however if you lead it to a cleaner source of water it's a lot more likely to take a sip. The service this channel provides is priceless. I can't thank inrangetv enough. Knowledge is the ultimate power in this world.
Just to point out, resisteence in Parma, particolarly Arditi del Popolo in Oltretorrente were commies and anarchists, many of them after the march on Rome went to soviet union and fought with the CNT-FAI in spansih civil war.
Yes, indeed... So much mixing and crossing around of different factions over the years. History, as ever, is complicated.
@@DeviantOllam yeah, in fact if you read the biografies of many of them like Guido Picelli you can see the libertarian commie dreams betrayed by the Stalin regime.
Partisan weapons are still being found in Italy today. Backyard Ballistics has a video on restoring one of two sten guns that were found along with ammo during a home renovation. The ammo still worked mostly too!
Their name has come up a lot now and I am learning we must meet this person.
Link please?
Listening to you speak with Italian pronunciations in english was a lot of fun. Great video Dev
Excellent video I love when you all do this kind of content. Thanks again guys!
yup, I agree this sort of content is fascinating, whats next? jj
@@jamesroeber what would you like to see next?
@@DeviantOllam more of this sort of vignette from europe's fight against totalitarian politics by ordinary people like you and I.
it is those of us that resist that the revisionists wish to expunge from history, or worse, use to justify their fascism.
#LiberteEgaliteFraternite
@@DeviantOllam If you are still in italy and maybe go south the Bari Incident is something interesting and little known. Happened 1943 and if i remember right was declassified in the early 70s.
@@mrd7067 I'm not there right now, but I will be back again soon I'm sure. 👍
Living close to Parma you depicted the strong antifascist feeling that we still have to this day, all you said was perfectly on point. Had the honor to meet a 98 year old partisan who fought in the plains around Parma in ww2, he was shot two times with a machine-gun while fighting,one in the neck and one in the torso, and told me he was one of the lucky few that survived, given the difficulty of fighting in a plain battlefield with no natural cover (unlike the mountains where most partisans were). His group was called SAP (Squadre d'Azione Patriottica).
Ya ll only switched sides when you know your ally Hitler was kaput
The so called antifascists of today are radically different than the union workers rising up against authoritarianism. The people who call themselves Antifa today are generally left wing extemist street thugs who are full of hate for people with different ideas, and thats on an international level
@@BigMek456 clearly you don't realize that the same trickery that Mussolini used has tricked you as well.
@@themeatpopsicle Mussolini not being a cool dude doesnt make left wing extremists cool dudes
@@themeatpopsicle Exactly. History seems to repeat itself over and over again.
I think that the Italian partisans role in Italy is usually either downplayed or exaggerated. It was a very complex phenomenon, which is really worth to be read about and expanded!
please tell me you met up with the highly underrated gun channel called Backyard Ballistics
From the title and thumbnail, I was actually expecting him to show up in this video, considering his recent videos on those uncovered (partisan?) Sten guns.
@@JanTuts sadly not on this trip, but I would love to next time. My wife and I get to Italy with some regularity. 👍
@@DeviantOllam Then get in touch with the Merry Gang of SBAM. Their kink is Milsurp and they come from Modena, close to Parma.
@@scipio10000 SBAM guys are awesome! And theyr range Is close to Parma...
@@matteoorlandi856 Per l'appunto 😉
Fascinating history that's hardly ever touched upon. Love to see videos like this on InRange. Hope one day to see some videos on the Harlan County War and the lesser-known union-involved conflicts here in the US.
Oh that would be great! Blair Mountain being another one out that way as well.
1920’s red scare
This was truly excellent.
Informative, well researched and well explained.
Thank you InRange.
Excellent material and an enjoyable way to get background into the Italian resistance.
So many people died in Europe during this time. The losses are staggering when you consider it. Especially when you look at the significant amount of civilian casualties which far out way military losses.
It’s completely understandable that people of all walks of life and backgrounds choose to stand up and fight. Especially when you consider the horrors that they witnessed in their own communities.
History is a messy place and it’s important to remember all sides and the sacrifices they made.
Thanks Deviant for the great start to the week. Hope to see more of this in the future.
like many I came to Inrange for the firearms content, but quickly discovered that exceptional historical content like this makes the channel truly special. Thanks Deviant and Karl!
Thanks for enjoying! 👍
Loved the message about self reflection at the end. Need more of that these days.
Hello from Italy! Parma Is such a beautyfull city and i often travel to It, food there Is best in the world (no Joke) my grandfather was not a partisan, still One night in Winter 1944 a family knock his Door and asked for help, germans and blackshirts were looking for them, and you know what that Means. Helping them was a death sentence if discovered, but my grandpa never esitated to give them shelter, food and Hide them inside a huge concrete Vine barrel. Then the nazi arrived, a neighbour was a snitch. They started beating my grandpa and his dad, then knoked the barrels to see if someone was inside. All the barrels, but not the concrete One. Then they stole lots of Vine and left. The day After the family left and fleed on the mountains, as far as i know they survived the war. The snitch... We don't talk about It.
Only one way to deal with the snitch. Grazie a tuo nonno, un vero uomo.
Time to type bella ciao three times
Amazing content, thanks a lot. I am Italian and yet I knew nothing about what happened in Parma. Speaking about the Italian partisans, years ago I was reading a book about partisans in the Verbano area of northern Piemont. I remember one of them saying that he had a hispano suiza submachine gun that was somehow "acquired" and smuggled from nearby Switzerland. I think it is often underestimated how much having Switzerland as an island of democracy in WW2 Europe was helpful to the development of the resistance movement, and for saving the lives of many, many partisans and civilians in the winter of 44.
I really hope that either Karl or Deviant can cover the 3 Kings in Czechoslovakia, the general Nazi occupation and the genocide in Czechoslovakia aswell.
I wouldn't mind traveling back there 👍
@@DeviantOllam I hope you do. I'm not sure if your familiar with Lidice, but more people need to know about what happened
1902- Flee to Swicerland to avoid conscription.
1903.-Arested for promoting strikes
1909.-Leader of the Labour Party in Trento
1911.- Participate in a riot against the Italian invasion of Libia
1912.- Editor of the PSI newspaper "Avanti", making it grow from 20.000 to 100.000
His Name? Benito Mussolini.
YEs, history it is NOT neat
Wise words, and much needed right now. Thank you!
very nice video!
i live in the same region and i've occasinally been to parma.
i wanted to point out some things though.
first of all it's important to recognize that the arditi del popolo first and the most part of the prtisan movement later, were directly involved with the communist party (later pcc, partito comunista clandestino).
The arditi del popolo is, in fact, still existent as a political organization in 'patria socialista' (socialist motherland).
and on the same note, when the murales is shown (6:55), a three conveniently covers the part of it with a hammer and sickle and the slogan 'viva la resistenza' (long live the resistance movement) wich can be clearly seen walking along the river and maybe on maps too.
the period 1918-1924 of italian history is incredibly interesting and i would raccommand reading "M figlio del secolo" by historian Antonio Scurati.
thanks inRange for posting great content and cheers from emilia romagna from a loyal follower.
My exposure to Italian Partisans was from the Don Camillo Series by Giovanni Guareschi and Piers Dudgeon. Geoff Who has been around awhile.
Don Camillo rocks, have read and re-read the stories more times than I can remember. Chicken soup for the soul!
Don Camillo Is still a Legend in Italy :)
That's probably one of the most nuanced narratives about the relationship between Italian antifascists after the war, and the constant tension between the communist and Catholic groups. Italian resistance, probably more than others, was affected by ideological issues. It was never a well organized, tightly knit group and some of these issues persisted after the war ended. Guareschi pictures that so well.
Thanks to this channel and every patron for bringing such content!
Thank you, sir. Very interesting and thought provoking content, as always.
Nice to see not-Karl back and giving us this great lesson!
Something I did not know, and propably would not have learned about without this. Also the lesson to take home from this was great and delivered without preachiness (I hope that is a word...). You truly have deserved your smile! Well done, keep it up!
Also note that Italy had the biggest communist party in Europe (even post-war) the ideology was very strong.
Wel yes but actually no, the Catholic partisans were larger. Although it's hard to put hard numbers on partisans.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 there was a lot of overlap between the two. After the fall of the Spanish Republic, Catholic communism had a resurgence in the latin world. Not exactly for a clear through-line reason. While the anarchists and communists in Spain were extremely brutal against Catholics, this wasn't reaaaaalllly a primary reason for their failure. More likely it was just that Catholic leftists and anarchists felt ostracized, seeing so many religious people be killed and exiled, and attempted to build their own movements in safer locations. Italy is one of the few places where religious anarchists have been a somewhat common phenomenon. Anarchism tends to be aggressively opposed to religion, not just as an institution but as an idea. That said, in Italy (and some other places throughout history) some anarchists instead focused purely on religious institutions as the enemy, with religion itself actually being quite compatible, even Catholicism.
No clear lines. As with most things, it was messy and complicated. Nuanced.
Thanks for the story, nicely done, and on a topic not often addressed. I liked it.
Great video.
I really like the presentation of multiple layers of topics and understanding that things are usually not simply black&white, be it in regards to politics or history or what have you.
This is exactly what makes this channel so awesome.
My girl has such a love for Italy, but I’m pretty sure she doesn’t know their history. But it really did peek my interest because I’m a lover of war history so I decided to look up the Italian resistance due to her love for Italy and my wanting to learn the history behind the song, Bella Ciao. You did a really great job on this, and it’s really interesting to know more about Italy. Such a great video.
I'm italian and i hope you'll do other videos in Italy, i really enjoyed this one about partisans, one of my favourite ww2 topics, even if little known
I wonder what a 1920’s Italian anarchist would say if you told him that in 100 years he’d be compared to a small fictional teddy bear from a galaxy far far away
I always appreciate the excellent historical videos you guys make. Thanks for highlighting these memorials.
This is an excellent presentation. Amazing the things you learn from places you dont often think about. (Any place that serves you meat and cheese left, right and center is downright awesome)
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Hello Not-Karl! Would be nice to see another Not-Deviant and Not-Karl discussion video. ;)
Outstanding video!!!
Glad you liked it!
Thanks much!
Thanks Deviant! Glad to see more of you on the channel!
The world is very much complicated indeed.
Glad to be here👍
As an Italian with a Partisan grandfather, I hope that this video may help everyone to understand that the term “Antifa” was born as a short version of “Antifascist” and should represent everyone’s feeling of beign Antifascit instead of being a misleading trick to attack every opposition movement whatsoever.
You have my thumbs up, and my axe.
Parole sante Sandro.
When all you have is a fashbasher, everything tends to look like fash
Modern Antifa loves their brand of authoritarianism and thuggery. As someone who opposes such tactics and behavior, Fascist and Anti-Fascist look like two sides of the same coin with little room for true freedom of thought or behavior. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, it's a duck.
@@00Klingon ok
No gods no masters ✌️
This was awesome! Thanks 😊
I especially like the message at the end, really resonated with me. I've drunk a lot of Kool aid over the years and I like to think that it's an important part of growing up. But I look around and people are just hooking themselves up to the Kool Aid IV drip... I think it's healthy to question what you believe in. Frankly I feel it's a vital part of becoming a well adjusted adult. I like to think we all get there at some stage, either that or we eat shit and die.
Every time Dev is on InRange is a gift; fantastic journalism as always, can't wait for the next historical piece!
Thanks so much for saying such kind things 😁👍
@November_Golf I'll stand by Deviant any day, did politics trigger you or something? fuck off.
The greatest irony of the joke made of Filippo is that this is what exactly happened to the communist/anarchist forces in Spain during the Spanish civil war.
It's happened many times throughout history.
Though I'd say it's not a perfect representation of Spain. Various communist groups were sidelined when Soviet pressure increased, and far from running from the war, several anarchist groups and POUM fought literally until their entire formations had basically run out of bullets. There's accounts of anarchists setting up simple reloading stations using stolen vices from machine shops, and reloading spent casings with makeshift bullets and crude gunpowder.
The Soviets were both the only reason the Republicans held on as long as they did, and the very reason so many anarchists and anti-authoritarian communists were killed (oftentimes by their own side). Very complicated conflict, and another example of Stalinism removing all other left wing tendencies as quickly as it can in a conflict zone, during this period (and the cold war). Yugoslavia is one of the few examples of this failing, interestingly.
Love a good crossover episode. Great topic and a very important part of history to know these days.
An excellent bit of history that I didn't know.
Yes, Picelli. After 1922 was promptly thrown in Jail. In the last elections in 1924 it was elected to the Chamber of deputies and accordingly released from prison. When he had to fill in a form as deputy about his last employment, he tersely wrote 'Jailbird'.
Based
Such a great peak into a fascinating topic, thanks a lot!
Excellent! Thanks for telling us this story about the partisans of Italy.
Beautiful segment, more, please sir more!!
Loved this. It's nice to hear an alternative side of Italy
Luckly its not that "alternative" for now to being an antifascist in italy
This is the kind of content i love on inrange
Occasionally i really enjoy guest presenters. Thanks man!
Happy to be here and to entertain 😁👍
Great work, Olam! I love it when a guest host keeps the quality high. Also, those locations remind me of city 17 in Half-Life 2.
Thanks so much 😁👍
It sometimes takes me a long time to get through these history videos but I really enjoy them.
Thanks for the awesome historical content, love history like this that was previously unknown to me.
Ooh this is even better than expected.
That's good to hear 😁👍
My family from northern Italy dealt with constant groups of Communist partisans shooting up there town during the war, They targeted civilians but ran like rats from the army. (It got so bad a wehrmacht unit went to hunt them down well off duty)
@@r3dunt3r Ah good old trolls.......
Your family’s town was probably a cosa nostra mafia town that’s why. Or was sympathetic to Mussolini and the Wehrmacht. I don’t blame them for shooting the town up. I would too.
The world, as ever, is complicated. But Italy, Italy is infuriatingly complex.
Excellent summary. Thank you.
Bloody Brilliant piece of work. More please!
**bella ciao intensifies**
It'd be absolutely wonderful if we had union's like that in the modern world.
Based in the STEN thumbnail, and location, I was sure there was going to be a Backyard Ballistics collab.
Been missing these kinds of videos from Inrange. Good shit, keep up the good work.
Thanks for sharing anarchist history! :D I knew you guys were always on the right side of things!
Hey....not-Karl, this is indeed a very pleasant surprise. As much as I appreciate Karl, I must say you're just as engaging a host. Excellent presentation. Thank you.
Wait, where's Karl?! Why are you talking about him in past tense?
Karl is safe and sound where we all left him at the end of the year and will be unveiled for 2022 shortly. 👍
Fantastic background info on Parma in the 20's
An excellent history/civics lesson. Thanks to D.O. (a.k.a. Not Karl) and to In Range.
Parma: purveyors of the best cheese and prosciutto in the world. Definitely worth fighting and dying for.
I'm not sure about the cheese. I have my own personal favorites. Aged extra sharp cheddar for one. But the prosciutto 👍👍
@@mpetersen6 because you never tryed the original parmesan. There Is nothing like It trust me :) well, jokes aside, it's really good.
french cities were rebuilt after the revolution with wide avenues to avoid barricades too.
Grazie Deviant é molto importante che le nuove generazioni ricordino le storie e tragedie che hanno creato il mondo come lo conosciamo oggi
Excellent piece, wasn't expecting this one in the pipeline. Thanks for sharing!
You are most welcome 😁
the more you learn about history. the more complicated it gets. History was easy in school. then i got intrested. Now i got Bookcases full of books. that I have read about history. Now i think i know a bit. more how little i know.
I love this sort of content and is just another example of why I give the patrion bux.
Thanks for this. This kind of information is better digested in a more personal medium like this over curated text/history books, if anybody even bothered writing it down.
Deviant its very good to see you on the InRange again. really excellent
Deviant is a very good raconteur, and his friend as well. I enjoyed this very much.
The TH-cam algorithm brought this excellent video to me.
A city might not be able to hold out against a modern military, but after two decades in Iraq and Afghanistan, a determined populace can make sure you never forget how hard that occupation was.
Always love seeing Deviant.
Always love being here 😁👍
Love this stuff, thank you so much. Sound quality is excellent, as well :D
Does a topic have anything to do with humans? Then it's probably more nuanced and messy than we've been led to believe.
Like Malcom X
What an unexpected and excellent video - well done.
I strongly recommend the Radio War Nerd podcast - Episode 131 covers the Italian Resistance.
Great video Deviant and Karl, thank you for your contribution.
Full power to organized workers and communities. Anti fascism forever.
Awesome video, I love the point or moral of the story here.
Came for the history lesson, stayed for the meat and cheese! Might have to visit there someday.
I married an Italian girl from that region. Her great uncle had been a Partigiano during the war. His title was "Secondo" which meant second in command of their resistance unit. He went by that name for the rest of his life.
My first cousin Donato Scutari and his wife Bruna Dradi were partisans. Bruna became the first female sargeant in the Italian army.
No Gods, No Masters 🏴🏴🏴
More of this sort of content please!
Thank you. If you feel that way, please consider our patreon: patreon.com/inrangetv
Hello Not Carl, good to see you as always.