Great video comparing the two styles! A majority of the riding I do is on gravel/dirt roads, which can get muddy. I had a zippered saddle bag very similar to the one you show on which the zipper finally gave up after a particularly muddy race. While the convenience of the clamshell is obvious, I think the zipper might suffer the same fate, especially since I'd mount it on the #3 bottle cage spot that is immediately behind the front wheel.
To each his own man,if the seat tube can carry your weight,toolbags under your saddle isn’t that of a weight to be bothered with,unless you don’t tightened everything up inside and outside,inside your saddlebag your tools should be all tight or strapped to avoid them from shaking losely,and outside you should strap the saddle bag tight enough to prevent it from shaking as well,that’s how simple it is,and on the bottle cage is where your water bottle should be,two bottles for the most cyclist depending on how far your ride goes,don’t switch up the tools and bottle cage. Un;ess this video is sponsored by the tool keg product it will most likely convince you to do so lol that’s how marketting strategy works lol 😝
I thought I was the only weirdo that felt the same way. When you are sprinting and descending you can feel that crap. I only start using it again due to the inclement weather. I normally carry my tools in my jersey pocket. I can't give up another water bottle though. I need H20 and a ISO mix in the other. I will give it a try to see how it works.
Wouldn't putting it up high by/on the seat post defeating the purpose of removing the saddle bag? Personally, in hot weather, I'm using a hydration pack anyway (a slim road cycling pack by Camelbak) so I only use one big bottle (24oz) which is enough to hold me until the next store where I an re-up.
All due respect but your review is strictly through the lens of a road biker and a road biker's typical concerns i.e. weight, aero, speed and efficiency. Ever heard of mountain biking, touring, bike packing? There are ways to enjoy cycling other than just breaking the sound barrier between point A and point B. If I'm bike touring or mountain biking deep in the bush and suffer a mechanical break down, being light weight is little comfort when I don't have adequate tools or enough water (amongst other things). Last summer I came across a roadie walking with his bike over his shoulder. He'd busted a few spokes and got them wrapped up in his wheel pretty bad so rolling it was causing more damage. He had a typical "roadie" tool kit i.e. no spoke wrench. I stopped and gave him a hand including my spoke wrench which I always carry. He removed the damaged spokes and was on his way (slowly home). If I hadn't stopped, think he would have rather had a spoke wrench or a few grams saved?
nice, but it restrains me from carrying 2 water bottles on a long ride .. what about carrying my tools on my jersey back pocket? does it affect the mass balance of my bike?
Reminds me of a "as seen on TV" commercial. You exaggerate the negative aspect of the "bad" product (in this case, you pick the largest, most unwieldy seat bag you can find). And then you over-exaggerate the positive aspects of the "good" product. Rather than showcase a cheap mountain bike saddle bag, you could shown a good, lightweight, compact road bike bag.
Thx! The yellow thing is a “quik stik” tire tool. Allows you to remove tire without using two tire levers. Great tool. I carry a mini pump on my down tube bottle cage. Thanks for the comment.
The only time you sprint is in a race and you would not have a tool bag on your seat. 95 % of cyclists do not race. They are out for exercise. Sorry, I want to carry 2 water bottles so I don't have to stop every hour to locate water.
If by “you”’, you mean me, you are incorrect. I sprint all the time, and I stopped organized competition years ago. I also get out of the saddle on climbs every ride. Thanks for the comment all the same.
Mass on the seat stem.. bad. Mass in a hydration pack on your back.. good?? Dude forgot salesmanship 101, never oversell, you end up looking like an idiot
Depends on where you cycle. If you can easily stop to fill up like urban areas, use a tool keg. If you are going long into places you can’t fill up easily, use a saddle bag, handlebar bag or both.
Great video comparing the two styles! A majority of the riding I do is on gravel/dirt roads, which can get muddy. I had a zippered saddle bag very similar to the one you show on which the zipper finally gave up after a particularly muddy race. While the convenience of the clamshell is obvious, I think the zipper might suffer the same fate, especially since I'd mount it on the #3 bottle cage spot that is immediately behind the front wheel.
To each his own man,if the seat tube can carry your weight,toolbags under your saddle isn’t that of a weight to be bothered with,unless you don’t tightened everything up inside and outside,inside your saddlebag your tools should be all tight or strapped to avoid them from shaking losely,and outside you should strap the saddle bag tight enough to prevent it from shaking as well,that’s how simple it is,and on the bottle cage is where your water bottle should be,two bottles for the most cyclist depending on how far your ride goes,don’t switch up the tools and bottle cage. Un;ess this video is sponsored by the tool keg product it will most likely convince you to do so lol that’s how marketting strategy works lol 😝
Right, take the tool bag off your seat and put a half a gallon of water sloshing around on your back. Real logical.
I thought I was the only weirdo that felt the same way. When you are sprinting and descending you can feel that crap. I only start using it again due to the inclement weather. I normally carry my tools in my jersey pocket. I can't give up another water bottle though. I need H20 and a ISO mix in the other. I will give it a try to see how it works.
Great video -- clear and very straight to the point
Thanks!
I run my keg under my downtube on my gravel bike and living in the Pacific Northwest it's always raining here. For us weatherproof is good.
Tip use a water bottle but you put your stuff inside it
@@zaraletto you could but the Keg has a wider opening to make it easier to get stuff in and out.
@@SteveLoweMedia ok
Thank you Sir.
Why not just add a cage onto your seat post just for the tool keg? Still look good and streamline and have 2 water bottles available.😁
Wouldn't putting it up high by/on the seat post defeating the purpose of removing the saddle bag? Personally, in hot weather, I'm using a hydration pack anyway (a slim road cycling pack by Camelbak) so I only use one big bottle (24oz) which is enough to hold me until the next store where I an re-up.
All due respect but your review is strictly through the lens of a road biker and a road biker's typical concerns i.e. weight, aero, speed and efficiency. Ever heard of mountain biking, touring, bike packing? There are ways to enjoy cycling other than just breaking the sound barrier between point A and point B. If I'm bike touring or mountain biking deep in the bush and suffer a mechanical break down, being light weight is little comfort when I don't have adequate tools or enough water (amongst other things).
Last summer I came across a roadie walking with his bike over his shoulder. He'd busted a few spokes and got them wrapped up in his wheel pretty bad so rolling it was causing more damage. He had a typical "roadie" tool kit i.e. no spoke wrench. I stopped and gave him a hand including my spoke wrench which I always carry. He removed the damaged spokes and was on his way (slowly home). If I hadn't stopped, think he would have rather had a spoke wrench or a few grams saved?
I appreciate the videos very informative.
Cannondale Forewer...
Just what I needed to hear
The top load looks more weatherproof (wet) though
Regie Dayrit That’s a consideration. I have not experienced any moisture getting into the clamshell.
Great video!!!
Talk about lower center of gravity then suggest putting a CamelBak on for a long ride.
Which is exactly what I do (Camelbak Ratchet). 3L of crushed ice on my back in warm weather that gives me ice cold water for 4+ hours is a godsend.
Having your stuff in a backpack doesn’t make your new carbon bike feel like a boat. Like bike packing bags do.
The bike bros can suck the fun out of anything.
I have the clamshell tool keg but now dislike it cause it's lost it's structure, the bag has become soft and no longer fits the cage well.
nice, but it restrains me from carrying 2 water bottles on a long ride .. what about carrying my tools on my jersey back pocket? does it affect the mass balance of my bike?
No, but personally, I'd rather not have the weight and bulk dangling around my low back.
Reminds me of a "as seen on TV" commercial. You exaggerate the negative aspect of the "bad" product (in this case, you pick the largest, most unwieldy seat bag you can find). And then you over-exaggerate the positive aspects of the "good" product. Rather than showcase a cheap mountain bike saddle bag, you could shown a good, lightweight, compact road bike bag.
But wait! There’s more…. Hahaha
A road bike needs to be able to have two water bottles if your not doing long miles then fine.
We appreciate your opinion and the comment on our opinion. Stay hydrated!
How much stuff do you need to carry? Type 1 Diabetic, umm yeah, a lot more..
Phil Taylor Our recommendations are case specific. Needs vary. We just wanna say we applaud you for being active. Thx for the comment Phil! Jack
Great video
Can you tell me if you have a mini pump in there? (yellow) and what model is it, can't find a mini pump online that have the measures
Thx! The yellow thing is a “quik stik” tire tool. Allows you to remove tire without using two tire levers. Great tool. I carry a mini pump on my down tube bottle cage. Thanks for the comment.
The only time you sprint is in a race and you would not have a tool bag on your seat. 95 % of cyclists do not race. They are out for exercise. Sorry, I want to carry 2 water bottles so I don't have to stop every hour to locate water.
If by “you”’, you mean me, you are incorrect. I sprint all the time, and I stopped organized competition years ago. I also get out of the saddle on climbs every ride. Thanks for the comment all the same.
talking about mass, if you want to get lighter, maybe you should remove this multitool bracelet that you wear....
When you want to save 0.100 seconds 👍
what bottle cage do you use?
On the bike in the video are Cannondale brand cages. I use Tacx cages on my good bikes.
@@ingguidesmedia thank you
Zipper version is not waterproof
Water resistant perhaps.
Here you go. Waterproof and no flappy zipper :D www.giant-bicycles.com/int/giant-tool-capsule
Mass on the seat stem.. bad. Mass in a hydration pack on your back.. good?? Dude forgot salesmanship 101, never oversell, you end up looking like an idiot
Now you got no space for water... Which is way more important to have than saving a bit of weight
Depends on where you cycle. If you can easily stop to fill up like urban areas, use a tool keg. If you are going long into places you can’t fill up easily, use a saddle bag, handlebar bag or both.
WAY too small
Mr Giggles