RoaringPirates but dark pit puts you in an advantage because the opponent hast to recover which gives dark pit the chance to edgegaurd if the opponent doesnt die from his side b. A potential stock is better than a potential juggle
Both moves have so much endlag that you risk dying if you whiff, so it's more rewarding to get a stock for that risk than it is to get the potential to juggle
Pit and Dark Pit are extremely terrifing when edgeguarding due their high recovery, since Dark Pit electroshock send oponent froward off plataform it had a early game to get a stock in contrast of Pit side b, this doesnt mean Pit is useless
@@raincloud9987 electroshock on shield is super unsafe so it's not rly a good shield pressure tool, more as a unpredictable tool to get people offstage (or as a cheese kill)
@@mnti3827 Did you consider the aerial electro shock? It's really safe on shield as Dark pit does a jump thing if you land it on a opponent or the shield
@@previouslyhshehdushdjdhdjs8052 aerial electro Schock isn't necessarily safe on shield, just hard to punish due to the aerial drift you get if you land it on shield.
@@mparagames true but it's still an huge difference between the two . Dark pit's final smash is like Zelda/sheik's in brawl and Pit's is more like bowser's
I really appreciate seeing the damage and trajectory differences. I'm at work and definitely plan on labbing Dark Pit later. I main Yoshi and I like skill shot projectiles that are less reactable.
The differences go more in-depth in that in a way. Because of these differences it's probable that Pit has a better neutral game since his arrows are so much versatile and have more offensive and defensive capabilities from across the screen compared to DPit's. DPit however definitely has a better dis/advantage state because his Electroshock Arm either automatically resets neutral, gives instant stage control, edgeguarding opportunities, and a better kill move compared to Pit's Upperdash Arm
I think we could’ve gotten differences for other moves as well. Maybe for up b pits travels further But dark pits has a hit box Maybe for down b it stalls pit in the air But dark pit is stronger when reflecting
Honestly, going by the games, Pit's and Dark Pit's hypothetical Up B should be switched, since Dark Pit's Power of Flight (which he stole from Pandora) lasts longer than the one given to Pit by Palutena, and Pit burned his wings while saving Dark Pit from falling to his death, so a fire hitbox could work for him
Pit and Dark Pit do have one more difference. Their side tilts, mainly in regards to the sweetspots on them. Pit’s has more knockback than Dark Pit. In total, aside from aesthetics and audio, the Pit’s have the three differences: the two mentioned in this video and their side tilts.
@@gambitgameguy6109 It is difficult to tell if it is a joke or not when it's just words, If I had heard the tone of the voice of this person saying, I could of maybe been able to tell if it was a joke or not.
Depends on who you are fighting if it's a character with a bad recovery then Pit is better because you can gimp with his arrows if it's a heavy character or a character with a good recovery then go dark pit to get that extra damage and maybe a kill, also if you go to a stage with a low top then pit if it's a close side like ps2 then go dark pit. I personally think pit is better.
Celica is Best waifu They were in smash 4. Dark Pit had a weaker f tilt and could do jab lock combos with it at low percent. In Ultimate, Dark Pit has the same properties as Pit’s f tilt in smash 4, having a sour spot and a sweet spot.
I find it frustrating that Dark Pit and Lucina are actually _more similar_ to their counterparts in Ultimate than they were in 4. You'd think, with this being a sequel, that they would become slightly more unique. That's what happened with almost every other fighter, but alas... So dumb...
On the off chance you play with smash meter or smash balls, dark pit is definitely better since his final smash has a confirm out of back throw which is insanely good and kills hella early at ledge
Fishycustomer27 :0 Nope that’s it sadly, they only lose to the flower princesses for the least changed clones in Smash History (they have zero gameplay changes, Belmont’s have one change, and the Pits had 3 differences but now only 2)
Fishycustomer27 :0 Your finding Olimar and don’t want Red Pikmin to go through your fire???? That’s it and it’s so niech that it doesn’t matter. Pick who looks cooler, Simons fire blows up explosions so he’s slightly better against characters that use them like the Links making him very, very, very slightly better than Ritcher
another thing you forgot to say is that their final smashes have a big difference. although pits smash does more damage , dark pits one has more of an advantage of nocking them off where as pits lightning chariot can be sent anywhere and its also has a time limit and the other players have an advantage of dodging the hit but you just need to be smart with dark pits smash.
Great video guy... thank you, wasnt click bait u didnt beg for likes and subs u presented the sought out information quickly and efficiently honestly I couldnt ask for anything bterr than your presentation here it was perfect so again thank you and thank you for not begging for subs and what not it's very refreshing... 2 thumbs up
Jump over them, roll through (so towards) them, roll away if they do it from nearly max distance, spotdodge the Side B and punish the ending lag, shield it, use a counter... Thats most likely not even everything you can do.
There are so many differences it would take forever. Literally none of the moves between the 3 Links are exactly the same. They all have different damage and knockback evem if they are very similar.
Dark pit had a better set in term of doing slighlty more damage whit his arrow and could kill early but Pit is good controling the plataform for elusive enemys both are good option funny enough the most easy to handle is Pit
Doubledasher No it doesn’t lol. Now Pit isn’t objectively better, and it’s way more preference based. Whether it made a change or not doesn’t matter, as it was a stupid difference.
JosepiThe13th The arrow difference still edges Pit slightly ahead. Yes they have always been preference based but it still sucks that they took away one of the three differences between these two characters even if it was minuscule at best... they had the chance to make DPit more unique but instead they made him more of a copy and paste This is also why I don’t like Daisy or Ritchter. Daisy has zero differences from Peach (most anyone can say is different is idle and run animation that have zero impact) and Ritcher the only is the properties of holy water that makes Simon slightly better against the links/explosions and Ritcher slightly better against Olimar... When I’m stretching with idle animations and an identical moves properties that are irrelevant there may be a problem. Basically Peach and Simon have 16 alts... this is my only problem with the echos. Clones aren’t the problem, the problem is that there is zero differences between them and the original. The three good echos imo are Chrom, Lucina, and Ken from them being clones but play differently and give you pros and cons to play them over the original making them unique (DSamus comes close but the differences are a bit minor and lacking)
Nintendo is smart. They gave pit the edge guarding with neutral B while giving him the vertical side b. Dark pit cant edge guard with his neutral b from his horizontal side b.
I think Dark Pit is the better fighter, if only slightly, but I like Pit better because of all his easter eggs in Ultimate, and I think he has a better personality.
Cody the Bird Yeah but he probability of hitting with Pits is less likely since the opponents can dodge it way easier. Again, Dark Pit has a true confirm into his at any percent. His also kills way earlier.
![Kid Icarus: Uprising - Dark Pit [Chapter 6]](/img/n.gif)
-You forgot that Pit never learned how to read-
Read
Hahahahahaha
loooooooool
@Alex Martinez Dark Pit came from a mirror and basically makes him reverse-Pit, so if Pit can't read, Dark Pit can.
James holy crap, that actually makes sense
Dark Pit also has the better victory theme.
I think Pit has the better one but Dark Pit's is still really good!
@@Wapow.S can't help but feel sorry for you
@@jaysins4037 Why exactly?
U say that you still like dark pits victory theme but can't remember it
@@jaysins4037 I can remember it
Dark Pit is the better fighter because anyone who loses to him has to tell people that they lost to *Dark Pit.*
Zero the Hero true and that’s why he’s my main
Lmao I've kicked ass with dark pit
Same
I'm still trying to get him in Ultimate
:(
Spamming “Electroshock” all match can seriously harm your opponents mental health, securing an easy win.
Cant win when you're lying in the corner crying while dark pit stands over you and screams"ELECTROSHOCK"
I don't know if Dark Pit's side-b is necessarily better, since Pit's side-b puts you in a juggling situation which can be extremely valuable too.
RoaringPirates but dark pit puts you in an advantage because the opponent hast to recover which gives dark pit the chance to edgegaurd if the opponent doesnt die from his side b.
A potential stock is better than a potential juggle
Both moves have so much endlag that you risk dying if you whiff, so it's more rewarding to get a stock for that risk than it is to get the potential to juggle
Pit and Dark Pit are extremely terrifing when edgeguarding due their high recovery, since Dark Pit electroshock send oponent froward off plataform it had a early game to get a stock in contrast of Pit side b, this doesnt mean Pit is useless
Would you rather juggle, or take a stock?
Londi Puff I agree with what you say since their aerials don’t connect to each other very well so the potential edge guard is key
Dark Pit rules! On bad di electroshock literally kill people at 60% on ledge and it’s hilarious
Ono but electroshock is a bad move, really it has two uses, chasing rolls and shield pressure
@@raincloud9987 electroshock on shield is super unsafe so it's not rly a good shield pressure tool, more as a unpredictable tool to get people offstage (or as a cheese kill)
@@mnti3827 Did you consider the aerial electro shock? It's really safe on shield as Dark pit does a jump thing if you land it on a opponent or the shield
@@previouslyhshehdushdjdhdjs8052 aerial electro Schock isn't necessarily safe on shield, just hard to punish due to the aerial drift you get if you land it on shield.
I say pit fire shock is better
I think a better way to phrase “easier to handle” would be that they’re more maneuverable or versatile, great vid as usual!
When pit gets knocked out of the map he says: "I NEVER LEARNED HOW TO READ" but dark pit just screams ;-;
As a Pit player, this comment section makes me feel insecure lmao
Same
@@arandomidiot9879 no you’re great homie
@@m1lkymochi9 knowing that i lost to a level one jigglypuff cpu at one stock and 300 damage as pit makes me fell very insecrue here-
@@m1lkymochi9 not to mention olimar is one of my mains too-
Lol I’m thinking of maining pit bc his side B makes fighters go up.
Did he just forget about their final smashes?
Not competitive legal.
@@mparagames true but it's still an huge difference between the two . Dark pit's final smash is like Zelda/sheik's in brawl and Pit's is more like bowser's
@@fnafmystery7070 Dragoon
@@fnafmystery7070 yep, I play with final smash meter all the time and purposely chose dark pit over pit because i like his final smash better.
I had played Pit a lot in the past but immediately found my stride with Dark Pit and won't being going back.
I really appreciate seeing the damage and trajectory differences. I'm at work and definitely plan on labbing Dark Pit later. I main Yoshi and I like skill shot projectiles that are less reactable.
dark pit doesnt sound like a pansy when he gets hit
I really like your Sam vs DSam and Pit vs DPit videos. Can you do Ken Masters next?
The differences go more in-depth in that in a way. Because of these differences it's probable that Pit has a better neutral game since his arrows are so much versatile and have more offensive and defensive capabilities from across the screen compared to DPit's. DPit however definitely has a better dis/advantage state because his Electroshock Arm either automatically resets neutral, gives instant stage control, edgeguarding opportunities, and a better kill move compared to Pit's Upperdash Arm
which one do you think has a better overall score
I think we could’ve gotten differences for other moves as well.
Maybe for up b pits travels further
But dark pits has a hit box
Maybe for down b it stalls pit in the air
But dark pit is stronger when reflecting
I don't think Dark Pit has an hit box for his recovery
@@ifyann6167 That's not what he meant. He said they could've given dark pit's up b a hitbox to differentiate them.
Honestly, going by the games, Pit's and Dark Pit's hypothetical Up B should be switched, since Dark Pit's Power of Flight (which he stole from Pandora) lasts longer than the one given to Pit by Palutena, and Pit
burned his wings while saving Dark Pit from falling to his death, so a fire hitbox could work for him
Pit and Dark Pit do have one more difference. Their side tilts, mainly in regards to the sweetspots on them. Pit’s has more knockback than Dark Pit. In total, aside from aesthetics and audio, the Pit’s have the three differences: the two mentioned in this video and their side tilts.
Orchestrafanboy19 apparently they are the same now. That difference was only in smash 4 I think
What's unfortunate about Dark Pit is that he _could_ actually be somewhat unique when you consider what can be pulled from Kid Icarus: Uprising.
Differences between Wendy and Bowser Junior.
They're the same
Krau the skin
@@edogard1 joke /jōk/ noun
a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline.
@@gambitgameguy6109 It is difficult to tell if it is a joke or not when it's just words, If I had heard the tone of the voice of this person saying, I could of maybe been able to tell if it was a joke or not.
@@edogard1 it should be obvious. Everyone knows that they're the same, and that the only difference lies in aesthetics, it's pretty well known
Depends on who you are fighting if it's a character with a bad recovery then Pit is better because you can gimp with his arrows if it's a heavy character or a character with a good recovery then go dark pit to get that extra damage and maybe a kill, also if you go to a stage with a low top then pit if it's a close side like ps2 then go dark pit. I personally think pit is better.
Pit and Dark Pit's final smashes are different but both give 48.0%. Pit's final smash gives twice the amount of knock back than Dark Pit's.
Dark Pit has range,combos and kill confirm at ledge.
The 1 difference:
Dark Pit can say the N word
Nigga
@@Raedein I agree with your entire comment even though the OP was just making a joke
How?!
I must know
Only the black skin variation tho
Excellent vid. To the point, great content, explains the differences really well!
Very informative, well edited, and you very obviously know what you're talking about. 5 stars
I thought their side tilts were different...?
Celica is Best waifu They were in smash 4. Dark Pit had a weaker f tilt and could do jab lock combos with it at low percent. In Ultimate, Dark Pit has the same properties as Pit’s f tilt in smash 4, having a sour spot and a sweet spot.
Actually that is smash 4 his arrow travel less distance and his froward tilt had less knockback, the whole new set its the one you see in the video
I find it frustrating that Dark Pit and Lucina are actually _more similar_ to their counterparts in Ultimate than they were in 4.
You'd think, with this being a sequel, that they would become slightly more unique. That's what happened with almost every other fighter, but alas... So dumb...
On the off chance you play with smash meter or smash balls, dark pit is definitely better since his final smash has a confirm out of back throw which is insanely good and kills hella early at ledge
Why do you not include the Ultimates? that's pretty much the biggest difference for a few echoes
The competitive scene doesn't use those, so people that make these kind of videos generally don't include the Final Smash.
@@edogard1 but the title is differences, not competetive differences
I need a video on Richter and Simon
Fishycustomer27 :0 It’s just the properties of the holy water
@@double2254 I know that but I was wondering if there was anything else
Fishycustomer27 :0 Nope that’s it sadly, they only lose to the flower princesses for the least changed clones in Smash History (they have zero gameplay changes, Belmont’s have one change, and the Pits had 3 differences but now only 2)
@@double2254 So is there any reason besides personal to pick Richter over Simon when Simon has fire element and Richter has nothing
Fishycustomer27 :0 Your finding Olimar and don’t want Red Pikmin to go through your fire???? That’s it and it’s so niech that it doesn’t matter. Pick who looks cooler, Simons fire blows up explosions so he’s slightly better against characters that use them like the Links making him very, very, very slightly better than Ritcher
another thing you forgot to say is that their final smashes have a big difference. although pits smash does more damage , dark pits one has more of an advantage of nocking them off where as pits lightning chariot can be sent anywhere and its also has a time limit and the other players have an advantage of dodging the hit but you just need to be smart with dark pits smash.
Great video guy... thank you, wasnt click bait u didnt beg for likes and subs u presented the sought out information quickly and efficiently honestly I couldnt ask for anything bterr than your presentation here it was perfect so again thank you and thank you for not begging for subs and what not it's very refreshing... 2 thumbs up
Other comparisons you forgot:
Dark Pit can have dark skin
Where Pit stays a tighty whitey
Pit can do “Palutena’s Guidance” taunt
Dark Pit can not
Would be awesome to see a “Viridi’s Assistance” for Dark Pit.
I'm surprised you didn't mention anything about their "Final Smash" I thought they were different..
I feel normal pit is better since his side b goes up which makes it easier to hit them while they’re still in midair with an arrow or up a
tbh I like playing dark pit more. Also dark pit's theme is so good
That’s why dark pit is my main
Am I the only one that likes Pit's victory theme better?
Wow this video is exactly what I wanted. Thank you.
1:40 aNyThInG aN aNgEl CaN dO a GoDdEsS cAn Do BeTtEr (initial dash)
Thanks Scott! Any advice with dealing with the Super Armor that their Side B provides? Might seem like a trivial thing, but then again, I am a noob.
Jump over them, roll through (so towards) them, roll away if they do it from nearly max distance, spotdodge the Side B and punish the ending lag, shield it, use a counter... Thats most likely not even everything you can do.
Shield and punish. It’s usually pretty reactable
I chose Pit with the dark pit skin
Not me but it does look good-
If you are in the air and hit Pit’s side B it can kill at 90
In smash 4 Pit's forward tilt tip had more knockback than Dark Pit's but I don't know what did about that in Ultimate.
In smash 4 their f-tilts were different as well but I cannot remember how. Is that not the case anymore?
Personally I prefer Dark Pit. I prefer his Silver Bow and Electroshock Arm. Plus I think he looks cooler. I prefer darker colors
Do a video of link's differences
There are so many differences it would take forever. Literally none of the moves between the 3 Links are exactly the same. They all have different damage and knockback evem if they are very similar.
Links are different enough to not be considered as echo fighters
Dark pit was my main player on the ds smash bros back in 2016
Did you do a video for The Belmont’s?
Dark pit had a better set in term of doing slighlty more damage whit his arrow and could kill early but Pit is good controling the plataform for elusive enemys both are good option funny enough the most easy to handle is Pit
This was a good video I subscribed 👌👌
Did they take away the Ftilt difference from 4? That sucks :(
Why? All it did was make Dark Pit's worse.
Liezuli Yea but at least it was another change, it made 3 changes
Doubledasher No it doesn’t lol. Now Pit isn’t objectively better, and it’s way more preference based. Whether it made a change or not doesn’t matter, as it was a stupid difference.
JosepiThe13th The arrow difference still edges Pit slightly ahead. Yes they have always been preference based but it still sucks that they took away one of the three differences between these two characters even if it was minuscule at best... they had the chance to make DPit more unique but instead they made him more of a copy and paste
This is also why I don’t like Daisy or Ritchter. Daisy has zero differences from Peach (most anyone can say is different is idle and run animation that have zero impact) and Ritcher the only is the properties of holy water that makes Simon slightly better against the links/explosions and Ritcher slightly better against Olimar...
When I’m stretching with idle animations and an identical moves properties that are irrelevant there may be a problem. Basically Peach and Simon have 16 alts... this is my only problem with the echos. Clones aren’t the problem, the problem is that there is zero differences between them and the original. The three good echos imo are Chrom, Lucina, and Ken from them being clones but play differently and give you pros and cons to play them over the original making them unique (DSamus comes close but the differences are a bit minor and lacking)
and I love the dark pit theme song
I need a video on not-echo fighters, all 3 links to be more specific.
Can you do the difference between peach and daisy?
no diferences
Can Dark Pit say the n word?
Yes, that's what makes him more powerful than pit
?..
Also theres a actually a black version of him XD
No that's African pit.
Obviously he can what kind of question is that
In smash 4, pit had a stronger f tilt, is that not the case in this game or did you just miss it?
Great vid!
When you main both and Palutena even- :’))
Technically you automatically main em both of you play with one of em. 😂
Now im kinda scared of my sister who uses drak pit on smash--even tho i kill her all the time Edit: Dark* Edit 2: her main is zero suit samus now
Nintendo is smart. They gave pit the edge guarding with neutral B while giving him the vertical side b. Dark pit cant edge guard with his neutral b from his horizontal side b.
Doesn't the electric effect on Dark pit's side-b make it worse against Olimar's yellow pikmin?
And Fire effect of Pit with red pikmins
@@Coolmar15 That's not a fire effect
Ah
Ummm... don’t there f-tilts send at different angles or is that just Sm4sh
Also where are you getting these “base stat” numbers from
Can I use the smash ball in dark pit of Wi-Fi guy destroy on mega man. I beat the star force mega man floor
In Smash 4, Pit’s forward tilt killed sooner. Is that still a thing?
no they have the same forward tilt now.
Do they both have a meteor effect for down air?
Yes
TOTAL: Dark Pit=GOOD Pit=NOT GOOD
Dark Pit is a bit stronger that Pit. That’s all I’m gonna say
In Smash 4 Pit had a sweetspot in its tipper f-tilt and Dark Pit didn't (even though they did the same damage), isn't it a thing in Ultimate anymore?
Alberto Carrascosa I have heard they are same now
Dark pit is my main who do you think that I think is better
Forward tilt is slightly different.
Are use site being on pit do use it on the power of dark pit abilities without play as
But isn't Dark Pit's side special electric, while Pit's not electric?
What about Pit's F-tilt doing more damage?
not a thing in ultimate.
Both are great who agrees?
You forgot to mention that their smash ball attacks are different.
Doesn't dark pits up b go a tille further
Dont they have a different final smash?
that's not a difference in comp play which is why he didn't include it.
Do samus and dark samus if you havent done that
I think Dark Pit is the better fighter, if only slightly, but I like Pit better because of all his easter eggs in Ultimate, and I think he has a better personality.
1.Dark Pit
2.Young Link
3.Pac-Man
4.Dark Samus
5.Pit
is this the list of your factorite characters?
Dark Pit is pretty much just “3kool5scool” Pit
Dark pit. Most maps you kill from the sides I feel like.
Two moves, taunts, and animations...also voice acting
Why are these two different characters again?
I never see pit being played, just his dark echo
Pit believes floor ice cream gives you health🤣
Well, it does
@@arby9768 ye, u right
Why so many fighters and so many copies?
Dark pit is cooler and has way more advantages than normal pit.
I love Wholsom angel and edgy angel. (Im joking they obviously have actually personalities.)
I’m with dark pit I LOvE dark pit I got a ammibo of him
Same
i wish i got a dark pit amibo,but i cant find any near me,so im just planning to get it off of online
Is he really not wearing pants?
It's kind of hard to see him as this edgey Dark badass guy...when he's literally just wearing underwear lol.
Pit
i didnt know that they charge their arrows
Don’t you hate it when they say that either pit you use will not change the result of the game
Who is better put or dark pit
I say dark pit how about yall
is it just me or is Pit more speedy and dark pit does feel like he is a havey char?
dark pit is better, it easier shoot arrows mid air because of the lesser control, and the side b is like a quicker deadlier weaker falcon punch.
I personally think Dark Pit is overall better but I enjoy playing both characters.
Pits final smash is better, but most people don’t use that.
Kalvin4444 False. Dark Pit can true confirm into his final Smash and kill at like 30%, which makes it better than Lightning Tiny Reticle over there.
Cody the Bird Yeah but he probability of hitting with Pits is less likely since the opponents can dodge it way easier. Again, Dark Pit has a true confirm into his at any percent. His also kills way earlier.
Dark Pit Staff is better.
Dark pit gives off the bad boy vibe and pit gives the opposite
Man, iguess i am one of the 9 pit mains that are in the world, so idk who to choose...
I never use arrows are use siding