As a fan of cinema, it's a 10. Fantastic writing, directing, and acting. As a Historian and History teacher, this scene is one of the few accurate ones in the film as there is often a misguided notion that all colonists were anti-british "Americans" waving the flag and crying about "Freedom". There were many who viewed themselves as loyal British subjects and would have been fine keeping it that way. The rest of the film, total bullshit. lol!
I give it 10+ ,💯💯💯💯 we need to bring it back at the movie theaters again, today we are facing issues that need to reminds us to be more independent in many ways, may God Bless America, here my famy and friends on this issue,🇺🇸🇲🇽🇪🇦🇵🇾🇵🇦🇨🇺🇳🇮🇬🇹🇸🇻🇩🇴🇨🇦🇪🇨🙏🙏🌹❤️👼
"Why should I trade one tyrant 3000 miles away for 3000 tyrants one mile away?" "An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can." These lines live rent free in my head today.
@@josephdonnieconjuradoyep the elected officials in both parties have trampled on our rights far worse than the government of King George did to the colonies
This exactly. I remember when this movie first came out, I was 16 then, I thought "What a coward. An absolute coward."........fast forward and now I have children of my own, mid 30s, and it hit me........what exactly was he to do in that moment? He is a single father of 6 children, if he were to leave then the children would be quite literally alone to fend for themselves. He has a profound point here. Had he a wife, he COULD go, but in his situation in this scene, he couldn't. He did not, in that very moment, have the luxury of principles.
@@jaebassist ya I agree I meant a war here…. We all know how more divided we’re getting… throw in 15 million illegal immigrants who we have no idea who they r that have come in… 🤷 I don’t have a good feeling about this great country
1:00 - 1:25 I like how the Colonel wasn't quick to go along with disrespecting Benjamin even though he was disagreeing with the Colonels intentions. A weaker, smaller man would've said nothing or gone along with referring to him as a coward in order to win favor with the crowd.... but he choose to defend Benjamins right to speak and held him up in high regard even though what he had to say was counterproductive to what he wanted. Thats the sign of a good man! I wish there were more people like that. We need them today more than ever.
Harry fought with him, he probably SAW what happens when Martin, Sr loses his temper. I don't think Harry understood what Benjamin was really terrified of.
@theeatherlash69 it'll bounce back at some point. Ebbs and flows. Peaks and valleys. "Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times" - G. Michael Hopf.
I love how Colonel Harry Burwell after debating Benjamin Martin about being a patriot then stands up for his bravery and character against Mr Middleton who implied that he was afraid of a war. It's an honesty and integrity in debating that I sadly feel we have permanently lost with debating with people who disagree with us that has degraded into little more then name calling and ad hominem attacks today.
We have lost our way as America. We used to stand on principles today we stand more on greed and that has corrupted our values as a nation. We will find our way back we always do and we will do it better.
This hits so hard now that I have kids. The fire and passionate resolve of my youth has been tempered not by fear for myself, but out of a protective concern for my children. It is hard to pick a fight, knowing that your kids might end up in the crossfire, even if you know that fight is warranted. He had seen the brutalities of war first hand and did not want his children to ever have to see the same, or worse yet to lose him to battle and be left alone in the world in the midst of war.
I remember that he followed what he believed to be true. He never said fighting was bad, he said I’m a father and I have to protect them. Heath say he’s hiding behind them is unfair because he doesn’t until later understand why his father was so determined not to fight. His goal was to protect those he loved even at the expense of this principles. I think it’s after Anne and the town are murdered that heaths character truly understands where his father was coming from in this scene.
Unfortunately, that came too late, as the man became obsessed with revenge, in his dad's style, no less. Cost him his entire team, and not only that, he thought he could take his time and make all the noise he wanted when he got up close to Tavington to finish him off. We know how that went...
Say what you want about Mel Gibson but he's a phenomenal actor. Chris Cooper is no slouch either. And this movie while not 100% historically accurate is one of the best movies about the revolution. I do need to point out that while Harry is correct about Bunker Hill(Breeds Hill more accurately), the British looked at the colonists the same way after that battle and how even though out matched, out gunned, and out manned the Americans nearly won the battle.
Mel Gibson is a great actor, director, and man. One of the very few among in his profession(s) that I believe to be honest & honorable. I've never said anything negative about him, and I doubt I ever will. Because he has always spoken truth... even when laid low and hurting. How many men can say the same?
@@joeaardvark9214 Please pull your head out of the sand. This country is seriously divided right now. The results of the presidential election on November 5 could possibly trigger a civil war...no matter who wins. You should wake up to that fact. Could be a long winter ahead, sir.
I love this conversation. Two men that respect one another and are not trying to shame or belittle the other. They have their principals, they disagree, but they accept the other has a valid point and must leave it to a consensus to determine which moves them the most.
@@maryanneayumi9594 because once he saw that the events were set in motion and could not be stopped, he knew there were only two options, help them win or watch them fail.
It goes to show that he is a man who seen his fair share of war and its aftermath. Having survived that he is unwilling to sacrifice his children to suffer such fates as he had seen many other innocents suffer in the cause of war
the levy passed! The guns shooting up give me goosebumps. I know it's a movie, but this level of patriotism always gives me goosebumps. Stand for independence. This is what it means to be American. No matter our creed, skin color, or culture, we defend each other, no matter the enemy. Freedom has its price, no doubt. To maintain that freedom, sometimes fighting is necessary. This is to be a ardonded and stead fast patriot!
The independence that you were promised turned out to be secularism at the hands of Freemasons that opened the floodgates for the degeneracy today. We in Europe later had the same, with the French Revolution, Napoleon, Bismark, WWI, Weimar, HItler, WWII, and the EU.
Yep. They knew it from the corruption of the Senate in the late Roman Republic, we know it now from an oligarchy in our establishment politicians who continuously disregard the interests of their constituents to focus on their own corrupt gain.
Founding fathers of America: "We want peace, independent and trade all the nations." People running of America: "We don't want peace, we want trouble!"
Just curious, Benjamin Martin-Does anyone think he’s a coward for Not wanting to go to War? Probably most of the people in this meeting think so, except the Colonel who is speaking, Because-he knows Benjamin and knows he has his Reasons, Benjamin Has already seen and fought war in the past, some of his actions in the French and Indian war still bother him
Those who know him know his true character. Also, and I point to Mr. Middleton here, people like Middleton are the ones who wouldn't be taking up arms so it's easy for him to say Benjamin is afraid. Also, in Ben's mind who is someone who fought in the British army, fighting a war with the world's greatest military force at the time was foolhardy and he, in his mind, knew that once the Brits won conditions would be considerably worse.
That's i always shake my head when a trump supporter says joe biden is a weak president. Avoiding a war to save billions is the choice of a true leader instead of playing a tough guy with power and being the first to run. Make no mistake, if it comes down to war. Joe biden is probably already prepared to react. It's always better to take the humble route and surprise the enemy than to have the enemy expect the outcome.
When I first watched this as a teenager I thought he was 100% a coward. Now in my late 30s....I understand him. I am also now 100% antiwar in almost all situations.
@@ONETimothy2.12-14 Sure. I am anti-modern war where blood is shed to enrich the elite. War of self defense is always justified. War over rights violations is justified. War for politics and influence is not.
"Children will learn of it with their own eyes, and the innocent will die with the rest of us" is probably the most gut-wrenching line of this entire scene. It's sad how many lives were lost. But an amazing happened out of this, America became an independent nation!
Sad part is, after this election, we're going to go through it, again. I've long said that skirmishes will break out, just as they did here. The United States is far too large, for one big ultimate battle. That would require a whole lot of logistics, from either faction.
Sadly, as a parent, you find yourself between a rock and a hard place. If there be war may it be in my time, that there may be peace in my children's time.
Not only him being a parent but having the experience of the cost and pain of war. A true man will not desire, revel, or rejoice in conflict though he doesn't shy away from it when he needs to. Great movie!
He knew what was coming because he is a warrior. Fought many times before coming to this moment in his life. And in the end lost two things dear to his heart. Being a parent changed him. As it should.
Son: “Father, I thought you were a man of principles.” Father: “Perhaps, when you have a family of your own, you’ll understand.” Son: “When I have a family of my own, I won’t hide behind them.” My father would beat my ass!!!
4:10 this small part of the scene: how his son in defiance and pride says 'yes i do' but then loses his composure when his father doesnt look away. amazing
Even though he was the most qualified man for the war, he went against it because he and his sons would be fighting it. At the end of the day he probably lost more than he gained with two sons dead
Think about that for a minute. Kids younger than Thomas would be fighting this war. Nowadays males in their 20's curl up into a ball and form crying circles whenever they see a MAGA hat.
@@Maul3rXnot only is it true, the nature of the electorate actually makes it more bulletproof of an idea than a monarchy. Of 100 men let's say in Congress, who do you directly hold accountable for a problematic piece of legislation being passed through one way or another?
@@Maul3rX It's insane to even think that back then as well, George III was the puppet for Britain, he never had any real power, the British government and parliament were the guys in charge, but you Americans need to have a big baddy figurehead to spin to your narrative don't you?
@Fishandloavesforallwe are specifically a republic which can fall into the category of democracy. Yet there are many styles of democracies that fall outside a republic!
Such an amazing masterpiece. He really loved his family. A shame his kid did not see his father’s true intention. It’s like having a parent who does not want to enlist in the military and then you have a kid that badly wants to enlist.
I remember seeing a video in history class where world war 1 soldiers where charging the machine guns, no one made it to the enemy trench, starvation/disease killed as many soldiers as battle, too many soldiers come back from war physically and emotionally wrecked and no matter how hard you try to avoid collateral damage there is always some. The history teacher made us see that war is not always glorious. Sometimes war is the only option but we shouldn't go to war unless we have a really good reason. The revolutionary war, civil war and World War 2 were wars that needed to fight but Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq should have been resolved diplomatically without a war.
Agree 100 percent about Vietnam and Iraq but Afghanistan was different. What were we supposed to do after 9/11? Just sit on our hands and tell Osoma Bin Laden “please don’t do that again”?
Washington knew, and was summarily informed by my ancestor who initiated George's first military intelligence network, that Colonial resources weren't up to the task. When uninformed firebrands cast votes and move before preparations can be made, starts are always precarious at best. Likely why we lost so many battles at the onset. We learned much during that war about asymmetric warfare.
We may have lost battles at the onset but the most important one, Lexington and Concord, the colonists won. Had the colonists lost that battle the revolution would have been over before it started.
@@Rockhound6165the problem was, the Colonials couldn't hold off the British forever, and they knew it. However, France saw it as an opportunity to hit Britain it hurt, and they took it, making us allies. We shit on the French today, but once upon a time, they were one of the few armies that could stand toe-to-toe with them. Yea, America won some important battles... but we needed help bad.
When Benjamin Martin gets called out for not wanting to fight and the colonel who is debating with him gives him that look and comes to his defense, to me he's saying to that guy to shut the fuck up and to benjamin martin, I got your back even though we disagree. That's the definition of integrity.
I try to remember - the American Revolution was viewed as a Civil War back then. Victory for the rebels was far, *far* from guaranteed, and a major portion of the population wished to remain British subjects. Anti-war rhetoric likely would have been one many of us would have agreed with had we not known the outcome.
Yes, and just like the history in our books, the crimes of the Palestinians will be glorified, denied, or forgotten. We mourn our dead & move on to the next tragedy, learning nothing
Many of the Founding Fathers if I'm not mistaken felt this way and it was firebrands on both sides who drove all over the edge? Washington himself called it a civil war at one point and was depressed by it all.
Given that "American's" didn't just fall out of a tree, that they where all British (which means America today is no longer American, and its showing) it was clearly a Civil War, calling it a war of independence was probably the greatest propaganda trick of all. Mind you Britain calling itself "The worlds oldest Democracy" is also pure fiction.
No sensible person wants to go to war. Especially if they actually have to go themselves. It's something we've lost in modern times, no one deciding on war ever has to go and actually be a part of it.
It is true, however, that the American colonial leaders did try to reconcile with the Crown. Read up on the Olive Branch Petition. But the king decided to disarm the colonists by force. And that the colonists simply could not allow, for it would leave them at the mercy of the king's troops and Native American tribes. Even at Lexington Green, Capt. Parker ordered his men not to fire unless fired upon. But fired upon they were, and after that the whole powder keg exploded.
He called it a civil war because up to that point, all of the colonists considered themselves to be Englishmen, with the rights of Englishmen. That's why there were people who were pissed off when the King revoked their colonial charters and then denied them representation in Parliament.
This film's, story's time has come. Oh Heavenly Father above, I beseech thee to listen to our heartbeat as we fight to be heard to keep out Freedoms given to us by You Father. ❤
There can be no greater advocate for peace than someone who has lost part of their humanity in war. I march in my local area's Veterans Day [Armistice Day or Remembrance Day to some folks] every year. One group that marches is Veterans For Peace. Some of my friends try to give those guys a hard time and I'm careful to check them on that. I want peace, you want peace, the vast majority of humanity wants peace. And there's nothing whatsoever wrong with standing up and saying so.
- "Do you intend to enlist without my Permission?" - "Yes, I do; I know you are a Man of Principle." - "When you have a Family of your own, perhaps you will understand." - "When I have a Family of my own, I would not hide behind them."
As a father I can sympathize greatly, I would suffer a great deal of indignity before I made a decision which would bring war to my family's doorstep, especially considering that when it came I'd be enlisted and deployed far from them.
I have always found this point in our history to be especially fascinating. Mainly because a handful of men decided that in order for their economy to flourish they must do something that had never been successful up to that point. Declare war with one of the most powerful nations in the world. And start up their own government and country. And on top of that they chose a type of government that had never been tried to this scale before, and had to do it from the ground up on the fly. Truly impressive, I don’t think there is a person alive today that could fully comprehend the magnitude of stress these men faced. The sheer complexity and courage it took. That line where he says that the war wouldn’t be just on some distant battlefield. That it would be amongst their very homes always hits me hard. In order for this idea of Freedom to work it would take every man, woman, and child to be ready to participate in the War if they were gonna have the slightest chance of winning. That is the measure of America’s Resolve.
"This from the same Captain Benjamin Martin who's fury was so famous during the Wilderness Campaign?!" "I was intemperate in my youth..." "Temperance can be a convenient disguise for fear." Brilliant screenwriting. Underrated film!
*2:20* Reminds of where I fear this great nation will travel. “The tragedy of war is that those who want to fight it is are all who are left is because all those who fought before have died out.”
That statement on principles is so true. A good father knows his priorities is his kids then his wife then he is last. His family always must come first.
It's funny. I first watched this show when I was 14, and I totally sided with his sons enthusiasm for enlisting. Now I'm nearly 40 with two kids of my own, and I totally get where Mel Gibson is coming from. Crazy.
One of the best movies of that time period... did an amazing job of recreating the passion and the dedication of the people of the time. They we many and varied in age and status. But they all found a common enemy that needed to be dealt with. We have gotten soft in our time frame.
I've been studying the REvolution for 50 years and I give it a 10. Why? Well, they don't get everything right, and there's the all-to-often in cinema "Rambo" sequence where the hero is up against apparant incompetants, BUT there isn't a thing shown in the film that didn't happen somewhere and sometime during the Revolutionary War, trust me on that. In the end it's entertainment after all, meant to put "butts in seats" and to make money but if it gets the viewers interested in a semi-forgotten period in American history it will have done it's job. And honestly I enjoyed it.
Agreed. This movie, and "V for Vendetta", have very poignant, and prophetic views, and ideas, and concepts, that one that is INTIMATELY watching, not CASUALLY watching, can't take lightly.
@@johndanielsforJesus Right. Especially Mel's line "A legislature can destroy a man's rights as easily as a king can!" Something for us all to remember in this day and age.
@wayneantoniazzi2706 - The part of Mel's speech in this section of film, that hit home, for me, was the part where Mel, as Benjamin, talks about "fighting will not be on a distant battlefield, but in and around our homes; where our children will watch it (and be a part of it, if we're being frank), and the dead will be buried with the rest" (sorry, I haven't memorized the line, verbatim 😁😉). That bit of dialogue, stood out for me, all the way back in 2000. I could (to steal a line from another notable movie) "feel it in the AIR; feel it in the WATER". Now I'm not into politics. Always has bored me. But these last 10 years or so, with the unrest, and the bizarre policy and cultural shifts, I've become energized, maybe not to the point of being radicalized (not yet), because, at least here in the United States, things are nuts. So seeing this movie, in 2000, and V, in 2006, and God "revealing" things, into my subconscious, for events, in the future, is palpable, in lieu of current, escalating, events. Just a few short years ago, long before there was talk about a "Civil War" here, I may have been one of the first to talk about it, long before the movie. Where I thought about Mel's line. The United States is too vast, to have large-scale battles. Then there's the whole logistics angle, from either side, in how to coordinate to get enough bodies, in one place. So, realistically, it'll be skirmishes, everywhere. So fast-forward to 2006, and in the 1st act of V for Vendetta, the movie, from a British perspective, is talking about the "Anarchy in the U.S.A.", and all the unrest and the wars, over here. This was in 2006. 😳 Long before we arrived at where we are, today, politically. So did the writers, KNOW something?? Was it prophetic?? Not sure we'll ever know, but that bit of the movie, stood out for me, especially with the events of the last 10 years or so. Things like St. Mary's virus = Covid-19, along with Dascomb's line in the early part of the film, "In the 2005 film V for Vendetta, the character Dascomb says, "Our job is to report the news, not fabricate it. That's the government's job".
"An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as much as a king can." Considering we just had the full force of government ransack a man's house to look for a squirrel this couldn't be more accurate.
Benjamin was right about one thing, when he fought in the French and Indian war, he was younger ready to enlist like Gabriel was and saw the horrors that came with that war and he didn't want anyone else to see what he saw or lost in that time. He was no coward, he was a mature man that had truly seen the horrors of one war and knew what the cost would be.
"When I have a family of my own I won't hide behind them". Admirable that he wants to serve his country but to say that really shows he has no idea the horrors of war will bring. Another kid who wants to make their mark in history.
No There are people who stick with their principles even when they have kids Please check the list of fallen soldiers. They werent just childless people
@@007dalal actually there was a draft and also they offered a shit ton of money for soliders joining that french paid for in good part... so if ur poor farmer somewhere sure you might join to feed ur kids cuz you might be fked mid war otherwise. Americans just romanticize the war too much lol it involved a bunch of politics like any other, there werent just endless waves of volunteers fighting for freedom or whatever
Fun fact: King George III didn't have the power to wage war on the colonies or to raise taxes, it was the elected government. King just sounds more tyrannical. King George III was a figurehead, but the British Monarchy lost most of their power in when they were defeated in the English civil war in 1651. It's like blaming Queen Elizabeth II in 2003 for the war in Iraq.
I've had days when everybody was nice and positive, orderly and smooth days. I've seen those days. If we can somehow make it so most days are like that, America would be peaceful.
I am voting for Trump but I am against Civil War. As it was said in this movie, “A Civil War will not be fought on some distant Land or another country but in our cities and towns and in front of our homes and also in front of our children.” God please save America !
“Why should I trade for 1 tyrant 3,000 miles away for 3,000 tyrants 1 mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man’s rights as easily as a king can.” “Am I angry about taxation without representation yes I am. Should the American colonies govern themselves independently? I believe that they can and they should.” Truer words need to be spoken today.
No, the Swamp Fox didn't have the luxury of principles. What he did have was the recognition that, after he broke his leg jumping out of a 2nd-floor building, it was the right time and place to fight for something. And fight he did. I'd only hope that at some point people recognize that and respect those who fought those meaningful battles that led us to where we are today.
"I have seen war. I have seen war on land and sea. I have seen blood running from the wounded. I have seen men coughing out their gassed lungs. I have seen the dead in the mud. I have seen cities destroyed. I have seen two hundred limping, exhausted men come out of line-the survivors of a regiment of one thousand that went forward forty-eight hours before. I have seen children starving. I have seen the agony of mothers and wives. I hate war. I have passed unnumbered hours, I shall pass unnumbered hours, thinking and planning how war may be kept from this Nation." FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT- Address at Chautauqua, N.Y.- August 14, 1936
Our children will learn of it with their own eyes. Never truer words spoken, the damage war does to the innocent is beyond comprehension, yet in 2024 we are still inflicting it.
This is why we must teach our children that killing other humans is wrong as a whole world human race. We only have this one earth. Destroying it isn’t the solution. As a country and to protect it from being destroyed may it be within or outside. To live free or be under controlled by dictatorship is the choice every citizen of America has to make. Peace and I pray we may never need to go to war again for our freedoms. But if need be. That knowing it was to protect the innocent who couldn’t protect themselves.
Man… hard times. When I think of what all those brave men did for this great country… I really do not believe we now have enough men, in this day, who would sacrifice as these men did. There are some who would still fight for our country. But so many others who will not. So many others who live in this great country, reap the rewards with living in this great country. But none of them will fight for it🇺🇸💔. And the. Of course, the protesters…🤢
Hi everyone! What grade (out of 10) would you give this video?
6-7/10 Solid movie, just a few issues that keep it from being great.
As a fan of cinema, it's a 10. Fantastic writing, directing, and acting. As a Historian and History teacher, this scene is one of the few accurate ones in the film as there is often a misguided notion that all colonists were anti-british "Americans" waving the flag and crying about "Freedom". There were many who viewed themselves as loyal British subjects and would have been fine keeping it that way. The rest of the film, total bullshit. lol!
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I give it 10+ ,💯💯💯💯 we need to bring it back at the movie theaters again, today we are facing issues that need to reminds us to be more independent in many ways, may God Bless America, here my famy and friends on this issue,🇺🇸🇲🇽🇪🇦🇵🇾🇵🇦🇨🇺🇳🇮🇬🇹🇸🇻🇩🇴🇨🇦🇪🇨🙏🙏🌹❤️👼
"Why should I trade one tyrant 3000 miles away for 3000 tyrants one mile away?"
"An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a king can."
These lines live rent free in my head today.
Our tyrants are in Washington
This aged well
now that i'm an adult this sentence, hurts me now, because i voted for those 3,000 tyrants and i regretted voting them in they're position.
It echos in my head daily.
@@josephdonnieconjuradoyep the elected officials in both parties have trampled on our rights far worse than the government of King George did to the colonies
"I'm a parent, I haven't got the luxury of principles" for the first time watching it not having kids, watching with your kids hits differently
Parent of 3, I’d seriously think twice before signing up by choice, my youngest 2 years old, can’t see her without me.
I wholeheartedly agree. Hell, I'm a law enforcement officer and I go to work every day not knowing if I will be coming home. It's the same feeling.
I can absolutely appreciate that. I hope this finds you and yours well.
This exactly. I remember when this movie first came out, I was 16 then, I thought "What a coward. An absolute coward."........fast forward and now I have children of my own, mid 30s, and it hit me........what exactly was he to do in that moment? He is a single father of 6 children, if he were to leave then the children would be quite literally alone to fend for themselves. He has a profound point here. Had he a wife, he COULD go, but in his situation in this scene, he couldn't. He did not, in that very moment, have the luxury of principles.
That only applies in context with this film... otherwise, it really makes no sense generally speaking.
"I'm a parent. I haven't got the luxury of principles" hits a lot harder as a parent now.
That only applies in context with this film... otherwise, it really makes no sense generally speaking.
@@BMFstudiosNYC Depends on life experience and hardships
If you are a parent in the military, what then?
You aren't kidding there...
yes, Unprincipled parenting seems to be the norm in the United States.
"Wars are not fought only by childless men." This statement hits so hard, I can't describe it.
And in that moment it feels like they remember old friends who had kids and died in previous battles
I'm seeing a lot of videos on The Patriot in my feed recently, and I'm not mad at it.
Sameeeeeeee 😂
I just said the same thing lol means we got to watch it… algorithm coming thru, maybe it’s even deeper than that and we r going to be at war soon here
@Squatch34 God, I hope not. America as she is as a whole right now is too soft for that...
@@jaebassist ya I agree I meant a war here…. We all know how more divided we’re getting… throw in 15 million illegal immigrants who we have no idea who they r that have come in… 🤷 I don’t have a good feeling about this great country
@Squatch34 I figured, and sadly/honestly, we do seem unfortunately ripe for a civil war here. People just can't put away their differences =/
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I like how the Colonel wasn't quick to go along with disrespecting Benjamin even though he was disagreeing with the Colonels intentions. A weaker, smaller man would've said nothing or gone along with referring to him as a coward in order to win favor with the crowd.... but he choose to defend Benjamins right to speak and held him up in high regard even though what he had to say was counterproductive to what he wanted. Thats the sign of a good man!
I wish there were more people like that. We need them today more than ever.
He was carrying a vote. Even though they were friends and stood up for him for that reason, he also did so in the hopes he would vote yes.
@@uni4rm I think it was more out of respect for the man. Men were build differently than men today, or even men fifty or sixty years ago.
Harry fought with him, he probably SAW what happens when Martin, Sr loses his temper. I don't think Harry understood what Benjamin was really terrified of.
@theeatherlash69 it'll bounce back at some point. Ebbs and flows. Peaks and valleys.
"Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times" - G. Michael Hopf.
I love how Colonel Harry Burwell after debating Benjamin Martin about being a patriot then stands up for his bravery and character against Mr Middleton who implied that he was afraid of a war. It's an honesty and integrity in debating that I sadly feel we have permanently lost with debating with people who disagree with us that has degraded into little more then name calling and ad hominem attacks today.
And later, Cornwallis is occupying his home. He makes mention of being at Middleton place
This is certainly, a great point you make
He wasn't afraid of the war. Or of getting killed. He was afraid of becoming " Mister Hyde ". And he was right.
Trump and Fox News are the main reason why that is so. They have poisoned serious two way dialogue.
We have lost our way as America. We used to stand on principles today we stand more on greed and that has corrupted our values as a nation. We will find our way back we always do and we will do it better.
This hits so hard now that I have kids. The fire and passionate resolve of my youth has been tempered not by fear for myself, but out of a protective concern for my children. It is hard to pick a fight, knowing that your kids might end up in the crossfire, even if you know that fight is warranted. He had seen the brutalities of war first hand and did not want his children to ever have to see the same, or worse yet to lose him to battle and be left alone in the world in the midst of war.
I remember that he followed what he believed to be true. He never said fighting was bad, he said I’m a father and I have to protect them. Heath say he’s hiding behind them is unfair because he doesn’t until later understand why his father was so determined not to fight. His goal was to protect those he loved even at the expense of this principles. I think it’s after Anne and the town are murdered that heaths character truly understands where his father was coming from in this scene.
Unfortunately, that came too late, as the man became obsessed with revenge, in his dad's style, no less. Cost him his entire team, and not only that, he thought he could take his time and make all the noise he wanted when he got up close to Tavington to finish him off. We know how that went...
That's basically selfishness . He fought only for his family not his country
@007dalal no wisdom in that statement whatsoever.
He was describing a CIVIL war.
Say what you want about Mel Gibson but he's a phenomenal actor. Chris Cooper is no slouch either. And this movie while not 100% historically accurate is one of the best movies about the revolution. I do need to point out that while Harry is correct about Bunker Hill(Breeds Hill more accurately), the British looked at the colonists the same way after that battle and how even though out matched, out gunned, and out manned the Americans nearly won the battle.
And Director
I’ve got nothing to say bad about Mel, everything he says is true. On top of that, he’s a wonderful actor director
Mel Gibson is a great actor, director, and man. One of the very few among in his profession(s) that I believe to be honest & honorable. I've never said anything negative about him, and I doubt I ever will. Because he has always spoken truth... even when laid low and hurting. How many men can say the same?
It's about 10% accurate and about 90% anti-British lol.
@@kylejones7 the British were the enemy, genius.
Given the climate of this country those words were very powerful.
Please stop.
@@joeaardvark9214 Why?
@@captainamerica6525
Well spoken Sir.
I live in Australia and unfortunately see my great country take the same path.
Agreed
@@joeaardvark9214 Please pull your head out of the sand. This country is seriously divided right now. The results of the presidential election on November 5 could possibly trigger a civil war...no matter who wins. You should wake up to that fact. Could be a long winter ahead, sir.
I love this conversation. Two men that respect one another and are not trying to shame or belittle the other. They have their principals, they disagree, but they accept the other has a valid point and must leave it to a consensus to determine which moves them the most.
The way politics used to be
Such a great movie. Watched it many times.
Should be played in every social studies class.
@@jessesimmons4503 as american propaganda or what?
agreed- classic.
In my youth, I was a war hawk. Now, I fully understand why he's advocating so hard for peace.
But still he joined the war in the end.
Many are this way, war is ugly even when it has to happen.
@@rogeryoung9934 That's part of the reason why I can't stand a lot of the war hawk neocons that view Trumpism as a cult
@@maryanneayumi9594 because once he saw that the events were set in motion and could not be stopped, he knew there were only two options, help them win or watch them fail.
It goes to show that he is a man who seen his fair share of war and its aftermath. Having survived that he is unwilling to sacrifice his children to suffer such fates as he had seen many other innocents suffer in the cause of war
Always wished they did a prequel to this to tell the story of his reputation.
This and brave heart are my two absolute favorites. Just great films!!
apocalypto, too🦹🏾♂️
Do you hate us English folk lol
@unrealharry No not at all. I just love the film's. Visited England a few times while I lived in Germany. The countryside and people were awesome!!!
Temperance sign of a true stoic personality
the levy passed! The guns shooting up give me goosebumps. I know it's a movie, but this level of patriotism always gives me goosebumps. Stand for independence. This is what it means to be American. No matter our creed, skin color, or culture, we defend each other, no matter the enemy. Freedom has its price, no doubt. To maintain that freedom, sometimes fighting is necessary. This is to be a ardonded and stead fast patriot!
The independence that you were promised turned out to be secularism at the hands of Freemasons that opened the floodgates for the degeneracy today.
We in Europe later had the same, with the French Revolution, Napoleon, Bismark, WWI, Weimar, HItler, WWII, and the EU.
“An elected legislature can trample a man’s rights as easily as a King can.”
Boy in the post Covid world doesn’t that just hit different.
New age , they control everything now 😞
Yep. They knew it from the corruption of the Senate in the late Roman Republic, we know it now from an oligarchy in our establishment politicians who continuously disregard the interests of their constituents to focus on their own corrupt gain.
And we didn't even "elect" Tony Fauci and the CDC who were pushing those draconian mandates
really covid? Not Jim crow laws? Not drug laws? Not the repealing of rights... Covid? Really? How young or dumb are you?
This age like fine wine 💯🫡😋 cause isnt the same legislation doing the exact thing??
Founding fathers of America: "We want peace, independent and trade all the nations."
People running of America: "We don't want peace, we want trouble!"
more like
prepare for trouble,
and make it double!
Are you 12?
@@joeaardvark9214no, but the kid you sleep with is!!!
@@bigdaddystovepipe Nobody was talking to you hahaha. Awww you're so upset.
The US is nearly 250 years old, in all that time we've had only 17 years not at war.
3:15 "That's it. I'm going to become the Joker."
"My father was a drinker, and a Patriot."
“You wanna know how i got these scars?”
@@dksilvers1759literally.
Just curious, Benjamin Martin-Does anyone think he’s a coward for Not wanting to go to War? Probably most of the people in this meeting think so, except the Colonel who is speaking, Because-he knows Benjamin and knows he has his Reasons, Benjamin Has already seen and fought war in the past, some of his actions in the French and Indian war still bother him
Those who know him know his true character. Also, and I point to Mr. Middleton here, people like Middleton are the ones who wouldn't be taking up arms so it's easy for him to say Benjamin is afraid. Also, in Ben's mind who is someone who fought in the British army, fighting a war with the world's greatest military force at the time was foolhardy and he, in his mind, knew that once the Brits won conditions would be considerably worse.
That's i always shake my head when a trump supporter says joe biden is a weak president. Avoiding a war to save billions is the choice of a true leader instead of playing a tough guy with power and being the first to run. Make no mistake, if it comes down to war. Joe biden is probably already prepared to react. It's always better to take the humble route and surprise the enemy than to have the enemy expect the outcome.
When I first watched this as a teenager I thought he was 100% a coward. Now in my late 30s....I understand him. I am also now 100% antiwar in almost all situations.
@SS-dm5iy I never thought he was a coward nor am I anti war. There will always be a time when war is justified.
@@ONETimothy2.12-14 Sure. I am anti-modern war where blood is shed to enrich the elite. War of self defense is always justified. War over rights violations is justified. War for politics and influence is not.
I’m grateful to be part of such a loving community. God bless you all.
"Children will learn of it with their own eyes, and the innocent will die with the rest of us" is probably the most gut-wrenching line of this entire scene. It's sad how many lives were lost. But an amazing happened out of this, America became an independent nation!
Sad part is, after this election, we're going to go through it, again.
I've long said that skirmishes will break out, just as they did here. The United States is far too large, for one big ultimate battle. That would require a whole lot of logistics, from either faction.
Since 2014 I've been living it.
@@tatianalyulkin410 will be living it for as long as people trust in politicians more than they trust in God.
@@feartheoldblood The Lord is the only ( I don't wanna call Him " a thing " - you know what I mean )...that's keeping me sane.
Me at 20: "Mel Gibson's character is such a coward"
Me at 43, now with 4 kids: "Oh, I get it now."
wow you were really stupid with 20. Thank god I was not
Sadly, as a parent, you find yourself between a rock and a hard place. If there be war may it be in my time, that there may be peace in my children's time.
You damn well know in the next five years, all males will be war conscripts and the women will be slores.
Not only him being a parent but having the experience of the cost and pain of war. A true man will not desire, revel, or rejoice in conflict though he doesn't shy away from it when he needs to. Great movie!
Me at 20: "Mel Gibson's character is such a coward"
Me at 43, now with 0 kids: "Mel Gibson's character is such a coward"
One of my favorite movies.
I remember watching this as a kid, my dad pointed out the continuity error at 4:06 to me and I can never unsee it
Damn it why????
Good catch
@@ΓιώργοςΑντωνιάδης-μ5σ Heath Ledger already had his head turnt, facing Mel Gibson. He turn it again.
@@hanlosingit Thank you. Cameraman messed up.
We need these men more than ever in today’s politics.
Oh, it's coming.......
“I’m a parent, I haven’t got the luxury of principles…” goosebumps
I’m not a Roland Emmerich fan at all BUT this film is exceptional.
In a short 6 minutes you leaned what kind of men are each of these characters. The dialogue is absolutely superb.
Ah a brilliant example of disagreeing about politics and still being civil with each other. A lesson long since forgotten
"an elected legislature can trample a mans rights as easily as a king can"
Not entirely true but very close to accurate, it takes generations.
Oh it's entirely true. Just look around. Our rights are trampled on on a daily basis and we do nothing.
I was looking for this...... this is what our forefathers were trying to warn us about. :(
It's true look it up
About 80 years now, not many more geneeations to go
Actually its easier for elected officials because there's more than one perpetrator and no one you can directly blame
He knew what was coming because he is a warrior. Fought many times before coming to this moment in his life. And in the end lost two things dear to his heart. Being a parent changed him. As it should.
Son: “Father, I thought you were a man of principles.”
Father: “Perhaps, when you have a family of your own, you’ll understand.”
Son: “When I have a family of my own, I won’t hide behind them.”
My father would beat my ass!!!
That’s something I would tell my dad
I always loved those little tunes in this movie. I'd have gotten along famously back in those days
It's not like the movies. Medicine was very crude. You don't even want to think about teeth problems etc.
You wouldn’t last a week back then
You must be a rich and white male then.
4:10 this small part of the scene: how his son in defiance and pride says 'yes i do' but then loses his composure when his father doesnt look away. amazing
Even though he was the most qualified man for the war, he went against it because he and his sons would be fighting it. At the end of the day he probably lost more than he gained with two sons dead
Think about that for a minute. Kids younger than Thomas would be fighting this war. Nowadays males in their 20's curl up into a ball and form crying circles whenever they see a MAGA hat.
4:16 Heath's acting is sublime. He met his father's eyes and gave due deference.
No truer words were ever spoken in the first 30 seconds. Exactly what we have now.
You are insane if you think 100 people can trample peoples rights as easily as a king. Its so idiotic.
@@Maul3rXnot only is it true, the nature of the electorate actually makes it more bulletproof of an idea than a monarchy. Of 100 men let's say in Congress, who do you directly hold accountable for a problematic piece of legislation being passed through one way or another?
@@Maul3rXit’s time to wake up, and look at the world around you and you’ll see how very accurate and true this is
@@Maul3rX It's insane to even think that back then as well, George III was the puppet for Britain, he never had any real power, the British government and parliament were the guys in charge, but you Americans need to have a big baddy figurehead to spin to your narrative don't you?
These men would turn in their graves if they could see the United States now.
💯
Free colored men, woman have voting and property rights. I can only imagine how the founders would react to it all lol
They are literally legends in history. Now it’s a Netflix series
0:11 democracy in a nutshell
@Fishandloavesforall🙄
@Fishandloavesforallwe are specifically a republic which can fall into the category of democracy. Yet there are many styles of democracies that fall outside a republic!
As a younger man, I thought he was overreacting. But once you're a parent, you realise he really isn't.
Watch the extended edition of this movie. So much more to it.
Such an amazing masterpiece. He really loved his family. A shame his kid did not see his father’s true intention. It’s like having a parent who does not want to enlist in the military and then you have a kid that badly wants to enlist.
I remember seeing a video in history class where world war 1 soldiers where charging the machine guns, no one made it to the enemy trench, starvation/disease killed as many soldiers as battle, too many soldiers come back from war physically and emotionally wrecked and no matter how hard you try to avoid collateral damage there is always some. The history teacher made us see that war is not always glorious. Sometimes war is the only option but we shouldn't go to war unless we have a really good reason. The revolutionary war, civil war and World War 2 were wars that needed to fight but Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq should have been resolved diplomatically without a war.
Agree 100 percent about Vietnam and Iraq but Afghanistan was different. What were we supposed to do after 9/11? Just sit on our hands and tell Osoma Bin Laden “please don’t do that again”?
Washington knew, and was summarily informed by my ancestor who initiated George's first military intelligence network, that Colonial resources weren't up to the task. When uninformed firebrands cast votes and move before preparations can be made, starts are always precarious at best. Likely why we lost so many battles at the onset. We learned much during that war about asymmetric warfare.
We may have lost battles at the onset but the most important one, Lexington and Concord, the colonists won. Had the colonists lost that battle the revolution would have been over before it started.
Tryin to flex but just sounds like bs
Yup but those lost battles are what galvanized Washington to become the leader he became . Truly a titan of a man back then and definitely now.
@@Rockhound6165the problem was, the Colonials couldn't hold off the British forever, and they knew it. However, France saw it as an opportunity to hit Britain it hurt, and they took it, making us allies. We shit on the French today, but once upon a time, they were one of the few armies that could stand toe-to-toe with them. Yea, America won some important battles... but we needed help bad.
@@butlerbees6639 Hear, hear.
When Benjamin Martin gets called out for not wanting to fight and the colonel who is debating with him gives him that look and comes to his defense, to me he's saying to that guy to shut the fuck up and to benjamin martin, I got your back even though we disagree. That's the definition of integrity.
I keep thinking about this scene...have for days now
Your great war is a spiritual war. Your great deppression is your life.
I try to remember - the American Revolution was viewed as a Civil War back then. Victory for the rebels was far, *far* from guaranteed, and a major portion of the population wished to remain British subjects. Anti-war rhetoric likely would have been one many of us would have agreed with had we not known the outcome.
4:06
4:10
Yo hes facing him in one shot and turns around the next shot 😂
He knows what war means.
It is no game.
The videos of Oct 7th show in detail what used to be glossed over in one sentence of a history book.
😂😂😂😂
The videos since* Oct 7th, fixed it for ya.
35,000 and counting
@mohamedalahmadani5174 yeah, that's a good start
Yes, and just like the history in our books, the crimes of the Palestinians will be glorified, denied, or forgotten. We mourn our dead & move on to the next tragedy, learning nothing
At 4:33 what song is being played in the background It's like a fife or a flute
No idea but I also want to know
It's Prince Eugene's March th-cam.com/video/fLb8TBY5W-k/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
The Title Tag says: Mel Gibson advocates for peace in America.
It was Benjamin Martin.The character Mel Gibson was playing in the movie.
Loosely based on the Swamp Fox (Francis Marion).... I think
Many of the Founding Fathers if I'm not mistaken felt this way and it was firebrands on both sides who drove all over the edge?
Washington himself called it a civil war at one point and was depressed by it all.
Given that "American's" didn't just fall out of a tree, that they where all British (which means America today is no longer American, and its showing) it was clearly a Civil War, calling it a war of independence was probably the greatest propaganda trick of all. Mind you Britain calling itself "The worlds oldest Democracy" is also pure fiction.
No sensible person wants to go to war. Especially if they actually have to go themselves. It's something we've lost in modern times, no one deciding on war ever has to go and actually be a part of it.
@@Calekoflight Heck, George Bush weaseled his way out and went in of lies.
It is true, however, that the American colonial leaders did try to reconcile with the Crown. Read up on the Olive Branch Petition. But the king decided to disarm the colonists by force. And that the colonists simply could not allow, for it would leave them at the mercy of the king's troops and Native American tribes. Even at Lexington Green, Capt. Parker ordered his men not to fire unless fired upon. But fired upon they were, and after that the whole powder keg exploded.
He called it a civil war because up to that point, all of the colonists considered themselves to be Englishmen, with the rights of Englishmen. That's why there were people who were pissed off when the King revoked their colonial charters and then denied them representation in Parliament.
A powerful and sensible speach. Politics sacrifices so much in the name of principle, usually without much principle.
He was the bravest man to stand up for peace and family. The villain pushed him hard to fight them.
This film's, story's time has come. Oh Heavenly Father above, I beseech thee to listen to our heartbeat as we fight to be heard to keep out Freedoms given to us by You Father. ❤
There can be no greater advocate for peace than someone who has lost part of their humanity in war.
I march in my local area's Veterans Day [Armistice Day or Remembrance Day to some folks] every year. One group that marches is Veterans For Peace. Some of my friends try to give those guys a hard time and I'm careful to check them on that. I want peace, you want peace, the vast majority of humanity wants peace. And there's nothing whatsoever wrong with standing up and saying so.
- "Do you intend to enlist without my Permission?"
- "Yes, I do; I know you are a Man of Principle."
- "When you have a Family of your own, perhaps you will understand."
- "When I have a Family of my own, I would not hide behind them."
God give me strength to endure and overcome
As a father I can sympathize greatly, I would suffer a great deal of indignity before I made a decision which would bring war to my family's doorstep, especially considering that when it came I'd be enlisted and deployed far from them.
I have always found this point in our history to be especially fascinating. Mainly because a handful of men decided that in order for their economy to flourish they must do something that had never been successful up to that point. Declare war with one of the most powerful nations in the world. And start up their own government and country. And on top of that they chose a type of government that had never been tried to this scale before, and had to do it from the ground up on the fly. Truly impressive, I don’t think there is a person alive today that could fully comprehend the magnitude of stress these men faced. The sheer complexity and courage it took. That line where he says that the war wouldn’t be just on some distant battlefield. That it would be amongst their very homes always hits me hard. In order for this idea of Freedom to work it would take every man, woman, and child to be ready to participate in the War if they were gonna have the slightest chance of winning. That is the measure of America’s Resolve.
"This from the same Captain Benjamin Martin who's fury was so famous during the Wilderness Campaign?!"
"I was intemperate in my youth..."
"Temperance can be a convenient disguise for fear."
Brilliant screenwriting. Underrated film!
*2:20* Reminds of where I fear this great nation will travel. “The tragedy of war is that those who want to fight it is are all who are left is because all those who fought before have died out.”
That statement on principles is so true. A good father knows his priorities is his kids then his wife then he is last. His family always must come first.
A veces la paz es más difícil que la guerra.
It's funny. I first watched this show when I was 14, and I totally sided with his sons enthusiasm for enlisting. Now I'm nearly 40 with two kids of my own, and I totally get where Mel Gibson is coming from. Crazy.
Time does that.....
Any parent can relate to his passionate speech here. It's one thing to engage in self sacrifice. It's quite another to put your family on the block.
One of the best movies of that time period... did an amazing job of recreating the passion and the dedication of the people of the time. They we many and varied in age and status. But they all found a common enemy that needed to be dealt with.
We have gotten soft in our time frame.
"When I have children of my own I won't hide behind them."
Me: 😬
Such a masterpiece of a movie
Growing up is understanding how correct he was. Democracy was not what I thought it was as a child.
I've been studying the REvolution for 50 years and I give it a 10. Why? Well, they don't get everything right, and there's the all-to-often in cinema "Rambo" sequence where the hero is up against apparant incompetants, BUT there isn't a thing shown in the film that didn't happen somewhere and sometime during the Revolutionary War, trust me on that.
In the end it's entertainment after all, meant to put "butts in seats" and to make money but if it gets the viewers interested in a semi-forgotten period in American history it will have done it's job. And honestly I enjoyed it.
Agreed. This movie, and "V for Vendetta", have very poignant, and prophetic views, and ideas, and concepts, that one that is INTIMATELY watching, not CASUALLY watching, can't take lightly.
@@johndanielsforJesus Right. Especially Mel's line "A legislature can destroy a man's rights as easily as a king can!" Something for us all to remember in this day and age.
@wayneantoniazzi2706 - The part of Mel's speech in this section of film, that hit home, for me, was the part where Mel, as Benjamin, talks about "fighting will not be on a distant battlefield, but in and around our homes; where our children will watch it (and be a part of it, if we're being frank), and the dead will be buried with the rest" (sorry, I haven't memorized the line, verbatim 😁😉). That bit of dialogue, stood out for me, all the way back in 2000. I could (to steal a line from another notable movie) "feel it in the AIR; feel it in the WATER".
Now I'm not into politics. Always has bored me. But these last 10 years or so, with the unrest, and the bizarre policy and cultural shifts, I've become energized, maybe not to the point of being radicalized (not yet), because, at least here in the United States, things are nuts. So seeing this movie, in 2000, and V, in 2006, and God "revealing" things, into my subconscious, for events, in the future, is palpable, in lieu of current, escalating, events.
Just a few short years ago, long before there was talk about a "Civil War" here, I may have been one of the first to talk about it, long before the movie. Where I thought about Mel's line. The United States is too vast, to have large-scale battles. Then there's the whole logistics angle, from either side, in how to coordinate to get enough bodies, in one place. So, realistically, it'll be skirmishes, everywhere. So fast-forward to 2006, and in the 1st act of V for Vendetta, the movie, from a British perspective, is talking about the "Anarchy in the U.S.A.", and all the unrest and the wars, over here. This was in 2006. 😳 Long before we arrived at where we are, today, politically. So did the writers, KNOW something?? Was it prophetic?? Not sure we'll ever know, but that bit of the movie, stood out for me, especially with the events of the last 10 years or so. Things like St. Mary's virus = Covid-19, along with Dascomb's line in the early part of the film, "In the 2005 film V for Vendetta, the character Dascomb says, "Our job is to report the news, not fabricate it. That's the government's job".
"When I have a family of my own, I won't hide behind them."
Biggest shot fired in the movie.
"An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as much as a king can." Considering we just had the full force of government ransack a man's house to look for a squirrel this couldn't be more accurate.
Benjamin was right about one thing, when he fought in the French and Indian war, he was younger ready to enlist like Gabriel was and saw the horrors that came with that war and he didn't want anyone else to see what he saw or lost in that time. He was no coward, he was a mature man that had truly seen the horrors of one war and knew what the cost would be.
0:40-0:54, 1:08, 1:26, 2:04-2:10, 2:16, 2:20-2:47, 4:25-4:28, 4:32-4:33, 5:12
Well time to rewatch it again for the 100th time
"When I have a family of my own I won't hide behind them". Admirable that he wants to serve his country but to say that really shows he has no idea the horrors of war will bring. Another kid who wants to make their mark in history.
The peak of maturity is realizing that when you’re not even a parent. I.e., empathy on a different scale
This movie concept is becoming true every damn day or year
“An elected legislature can trample a man’s rights as well as a king can”
Dude that first line out of mel gibsons mouth good lord Soo true now
Wake up America's history repeats it's self. America Stands Strong. In God I Trust 🙏🇺🇲
This is the best film of Gibson. I love it. Even though I am not American.
“When I have a family of my own I won’t hide behind them”
Spoken like everyone else until they have a family
Sh*t changes 😂
No
There are people who stick with their principles even when they have kids
Please check the list of fallen soldiers. They werent just childless people
@@007dalal actually there was a draft and also they offered a shit ton of money for soliders joining that french paid for in good part... so if ur poor farmer somewhere sure you might join to feed ur kids cuz you might be fked mid war otherwise. Americans just romanticize the war too much lol it involved a bunch of politics like any other, there werent just endless waves of volunteers fighting for freedom or whatever
It's heartwarming to see an Australian care so much about American interests
Fun fact: King George III didn't have the power to wage war on the colonies or to raise taxes, it was the elected government. King just sounds more tyrannical. King George III was a figurehead, but the British Monarchy lost most of their power in when they were defeated in the English civil war in 1651. It's like blaming Queen Elizabeth II in 2003 for the war in Iraq.
Why have them then?
I've had days when everybody was nice and positive, orderly and smooth days. I've seen those days. If we can somehow make it so most days are like that, America would be peaceful.
When I have a family of my own I won't hide behind them.
I am voting for Trump but I am against Civil War. As it was said in this movie, “A Civil War will not be fought on some distant Land or another country but in our cities and towns and in front of our homes and also in front of our children.” God please save America !
“Why should I trade for 1 tyrant 3,000 miles away for 3,000 tyrants 1 mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man’s rights as easily as a king can.”
“Am I angry about taxation without representation yes I am. Should the American colonies govern themselves independently? I believe that they can and they should.”
Truer words need to be spoken today.
No, the Swamp Fox didn't have the luxury of principles. What he did have was the recognition that, after he broke his leg jumping out of a 2nd-floor building, it was the right time and place to fight for something. And fight he did.
I'd only hope that at some point people recognize that and respect those who fought those meaningful battles that led us to where we are today.
"I have seen war. I have seen war on land and sea. I have seen blood running from the wounded. I have seen men coughing out their gassed lungs. I have seen the dead in the mud. I have seen cities destroyed. I have seen two hundred limping, exhausted men come out of line-the survivors of a regiment of one thousand that went forward forty-eight hours before. I have seen children starving. I have seen the agony of mothers and wives. I hate war.
I have passed unnumbered hours, I shall pass unnumbered hours, thinking and planning how war may be kept from this Nation."
FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT- Address at Chautauqua, N.Y.- August 14, 1936
and yet Pearl Harbor and the rest
Wow, what a fucking crippled hypocrite.
he was only waiting for the right excuse... the radar worked... he had advanced warning...
Our children will learn of it with their own eyes. Never truer words spoken, the damage war does to the innocent is beyond comprehension, yet in 2024 we are still inflicting it.
This is why we must teach our children that killing other humans is wrong as a whole world human race. We only have this one earth. Destroying it isn’t the solution.
As a country and to protect it from being destroyed may it be within or outside. To live free or be under controlled by dictatorship is the choice every citizen of America has to make.
Peace and I pray we may never need to go to war again for our freedoms. But if need be. That knowing it was to protect the innocent who couldn’t protect themselves.
The war was historically quite tiny in terms of casualties.
Man… hard times. When I think of what all those brave men did for this great country… I really do not believe we now have enough men, in this day, who would sacrifice as these men did. There are some who would still fight for our country. But so many others who will not. So many others who live in this great country, reap the rewards with living in this great country. But none of them will fight for it🇺🇸💔. And the. Of course, the protesters…🤢
You’ve let the loud few with the microphone deceive you about the many in this country.
@@JF-jb2ln I hope so. I sincerely hope you are right.🇺🇸