Man I really don't like that tierlist... The problem is that the tierlist is multi conditioned. Aka you are not only considering their performance in the game but also relation to direct competitors for the role, you can't do it both, I mean you can, but the tierlist comes out as unnecessarily steep for a non competitive game. For example, Springfield being 400 leagues above Colphne, doesn't change anything about Colphne's performance, which would be important in a competitive game, but here it's completely meaningless. This is a problem many tierlists have across many games that feature units that can be used in the same roles, Arknights players especially struggle to understand that a even if there's an EX unit that does a job better than an extremely strong S+ character, the S+ does not drop in tiers because of that. Their performance is the same as before. Colphne is still usable in most content in fact she's still pretty fun to use overall even if Springfield is there. Games (non competitive) where you can make teams make much better tierlists when you make a comp tierlist with side picks for each character in that comp. instead of ranking the characters singularly like this was a fighting game. Just my worthless opinion
I get your point, but I also get why tier lists exist and will always be around. Sure, these aren’t competitive games (outside of rankings), but some people just want to know the easiest way to clear content because they’re here to collect their waifus without spending money if possible. And the only way to do that is by beating all the game content. If you want to do that without overthinking or struggling sometimes, the best way is to have the top-tier characters. That’s where utility tier lists come in.
I kinda like how you do the tier list as you mention certain character needs other to be viable What i want to like is make a video on future planning on what character should i look for and a perfect team to build around dpses like QJ,tll,makiatto i’d like to know that
Tololo wants sabrina + colphene + cheeta for now, later its tololo + sabrina + springfield + anything that synergizes Makiatto is Makiatto + Dush + Suomi + anything that synergizes QJ can be put into almost every team as a flexible slot due to her unique source of damage (action support) so if you dont know what to put in the final slots of a team just use her. Shes popular in overburn teams tho which is mainly QJ (v3+) with sharkry (v4+), or comboed with Klukai (v3).
Which CN or Mandarin speaker tier list? Tempest, 爆米，阿币，Kaze（HK），巴哈姆特（TW），NGA，Tieba I don't recognize this list but I have to admit I am lost in touch of their community for a couple of months Edited for neutrality, but generally there are a lot of tierlist everywhere
@@RaymondTheChad I got it off their forums directly, if you have other lists please link so I can see them also, doesn't hurt to have more opinions and information at hand!
Imo for limited dolls Makiatto/Springfield benefit the most For standard dolls (aka you can buy them from shop) Tololo/QJ benefits a lot from their signatures All of the the t1s are functionable without any tbh
I've heard that the game will require 2 or even 3 teams for bosses at some point, which is why I think healers are pretty valuable. Which leads me to my question: are healers like Colphne, Cheeta, Ksenia and V1 Suomi enough for 3 teams while waiting for Springfield or should I consider getting Centaureissi? Alternatively, can Andoris tank enough for your team to not require as much healing? And is Daiyan actually strong enough to compensate for not having any element and no specific synergies with any team or are you better off saving for someone more specialized?
You can just min invest them until you get their replacements, Colphene getting replaced by Springfield doesnt mean Colphene suddenly falls off the cliff, same goes for Ksenia and Centaureissi. Centaureissi was not even a proper Ksenia replacement from her release up till like literally yesterday where she gets a key upgrade. Its gonna be a long time before we get Springfield or Centaureissi's key upgrade. Personally Im gonna build colphene/cheeta/ksenia if you were curious about my planning haha
@@Ed_Roth I'm sad Centaureissi isn't meta yet again, she wasn't the best in PNC on release either. But what does her key do, and does it make her worth pulling for later on? Also thanks!
@@WadeWontson Her key buffs just came out so we are not too sure how strong it is. But from the info provided, its teamwide fire buffs, and she gains gauge when an ally unit causes fire damage. Sounds pretty good but I do not think they will give us her buffed version right away so can skip until she is buffed on our servers.
Her v1 is a huge damage buff so should be a lot better than v0. HOWEVER I suggest heavily to horizontally invest for now because having a bigger roster makes content so much easier.
As you said - a Tierlist depends on the person and usually has not much context to explain the conditions or reasons why it's where it is. Which makes this sort of video a goldmine for me, since you shared insight with some sort of scale to it - want to attempt to get Wawa's v1 if I can - depending on luck the weapon, but rather unlikely. I'm expecting to get shafted and got worried about having to go for Dushnev so soon (as the second upcoming banner after Wawa (korean leaks)). Figured I had to, in order to replace Lotta - she seems like a waste the longer the investment goes on. Might just skip her then and focus on another unit to take her place, thanks a lot!
Thank you for your positive comment, still make sure to seek out other expert's opinions and decide for yourself in the end! Her v1 is quite a nice jump, but weapons have good alternatives so do not worry too much about missing out on it. Lotta can be still decent as a filler unit, she is a free v6r5 after all , just don't dump all your resources into her and give her left over stuff instead haha Yeah skipping Dush is what most people would suggest indeed.
I don’t understand why Vepely isn’t higher considering she is able to cleanse boss buffs. I don’t know of anyone currently in the game (besides peridia maybe) who is capable of doing that. She has been a staple in most of the under leveled boss clears I’ve seen on TH-cam so far. Someone help me understand!
Great question! Yes shes great for early game that's why you see her in lots of those videos, her being a free unit given out also can explain her high usage rates on lower level accounts (there simply isnt anyone better), even Ive been using her bunch. QJ can do that cleanse with her fixed key 2 and it basically has perma uptime. Moreover, for bosses their most annoying related buffs are usually not removable so its a situational thing. Having a unique gimmick does not always means its an op gimmick.
may be the tier list is right but I think everyone should build Veplay, she carried the boss fight and peak value assessment so hard, she is tankly (when alone) and she might be the fastest unit.
Not that I know of but v6ing the t0 characters should be a good guideline. If you are asking about specifically v6 powerspike then its Klukai that has the strongest v6 powerspike. Her at v6 interacts very interestingly with Pertiya making her deal insane amounts of damage.
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Man I really don't like that tierlist...
The problem is that the tierlist is multi conditioned. Aka you are not only considering their performance in the game but also relation to direct competitors for the role, you can't do it both, I mean you can, but the tierlist comes out as unnecessarily steep for a non competitive game. For example, Springfield being 400 leagues above Colphne, doesn't change anything about Colphne's performance, which would be important in a competitive game, but here it's completely meaningless.
This is a problem many tierlists have across many games that feature units that can be used in the same roles, Arknights players especially struggle to understand that a even if there's an EX unit that does a job better than an extremely strong S+ character, the S+ does not drop in tiers because of that. Their performance is the same as before.
Colphne is still usable in most content in fact she's still pretty fun to use overall even if Springfield is there.
Games (non competitive) where you can make teams make much better tierlists when you make a comp tierlist with side picks for each character in that comp. instead of ranking the characters singularly like this was a fighting game.
Just my worthless opinion
I get your point, but I also get why tier lists exist and will always be around. Sure, these aren’t competitive games (outside of rankings), but some people just want to know the easiest way to clear content because they’re here to collect their waifus without spending money if possible. And the only way to do that is by beating all the game content. If you want to do that without overthinking or struggling sometimes, the best way is to have the top-tier characters. That’s where utility tier lists come in.
tierlist is juzt guideline to those collector but lazy. relax
Tierlist are never accurate but it gives general idea about whos strong which helps planning
So why even bother watch tierlist if already know their strong side lmao
I kinda like how you do the tier list as you mention certain character needs other to be viable
What i want to like is make a video on future planning on what character should i look for and a perfect team to build around dpses like QJ,tll,makiatto i’d like to know that
Tololo wants sabrina + colphene + cheeta for now, later its tololo + sabrina + springfield + anything that synergizes
Makiatto is Makiatto + Dush + Suomi + anything that synergizes
QJ can be put into almost every team as a flexible slot due to her unique source of damage (action support) so if you dont know what to put in the final slots of a team just use her. Shes popular in overburn teams tho which is mainly QJ (v3+) with sharkry (v4+), or comboed with Klukai (v3).
@Ed_Roth what vector does then? people said that if you want to run QJ with fire team comps,vector will be your go to to enable QJ
@@raz0gaming Vector makes fire tiles(like suomi with ice tiles) and just apply lots of overburn related debuffs for your fire teams to combo with
Lmao the quote at the end, Sun Tzu was a smart dude :D
My man Sun Tzu always spitting facts
Timestamps for convenience
00:00 - Introduction
01:27 - Tier 4
02:18 - Tier 3
03:32 - Tier 2
06:28 - Tier 1
09:54 - Tier 0
11:40 - Conclusion & Opinions
Which CN or Mandarin speaker tier list? Tempest, 爆米，阿币，Kaze（HK），巴哈姆特（TW），NGA，Tieba
I don't recognize this list but I have to admit I am lost in touch of their community for a couple of months
Edited for neutrality, but generally there are a lot of tierlist everywhere
@@RaymondTheChad I got it off their forums directly, if you have other lists please link so I can see them also, doesn't hurt to have more opinions and information at hand!
Out of all the t1 and up, which ones benefit the most from their signatures?
Imo for limited dolls Makiatto/Springfield benefit the most
For standard dolls (aka you can buy them from shop) Tololo/QJ benefits a lot from their signatures
All of the the t1s are functionable without any tbh
@@Ed_Roth I was going to go for suomi's signature and skip makiatos signature. For ice team. Thanks for yur insight
Don't they have a tierlist based on CN aside from the one based on global?
Thanks for the video :)
Hope you found it useful!
@@Ed_Roth Yes, and I really find interesting to see the perspective from the CN server who has played the game since 1 years
Oof, Lotta placed that low when we know he outperformed most SSR today. Yeah, this is too much dawg.
Is lenna a lot better with dupe?
Yeah, but its not required.
I've heard that the game will require 2 or even 3 teams for bosses at some point, which is why I think healers are pretty valuable. Which leads me to my question: are healers like Colphne, Cheeta, Ksenia and V1 Suomi enough for 3 teams while waiting for Springfield or should I consider getting Centaureissi? Alternatively, can Andoris tank enough for your team to not require as much healing? And is Daiyan actually strong enough to compensate for not having any element and no specific synergies with any team or are you better off saving for someone more specialized?
You can just min invest them until you get their replacements, Colphene getting replaced by Springfield doesnt mean Colphene suddenly falls off the cliff, same goes for Ksenia and Centaureissi. Centaureissi was not even a proper Ksenia replacement from her release up till like literally yesterday where she gets a key upgrade. Its gonna be a long time before we get Springfield or Centaureissi's key upgrade.
Personally Im gonna build colphene/cheeta/ksenia if you were curious about my planning haha
@@Ed_Roth I'm sad Centaureissi isn't meta yet again, she wasn't the best in PNC on release either. But what does her key do, and does it make her worth pulling for later on? Also thanks!
@@WadeWontson Her key buffs just came out so we are not too sure how strong it is. But from the info provided, its teamwide fire buffs, and she gains gauge when an ally unit causes fire damage. Sounds pretty good but I do not think they will give us her buffed version right away so can skip until she is buffed on our servers.
Looks to me like Tololo can get 2 extra turns every turn. and at that point being the highest dmg unit in the game by a large margin?
Hey thanks so much for this info, would v1 macchi still be t1 or higher?
Her v1 is a huge damage buff so should be a lot better than v0.
HOWEVER I suggest heavily to horizontally invest for now because having a bigger roster makes content so much easier.
@@Ed_Roth o i see thanks for your insight ill keep it in mind ! keep up the goods vids :)
Tololo x2 from the last 10 pulls of beginner.
Sabrina was the pity break on the way to suomi.
Just pulled planeta. The game is telling me something
Nice you just need to get springfield and wait for CN buffs
As you said - a Tierlist depends on the person and usually has not much context to explain the conditions or reasons why it's where it is.
Which makes this sort of video a goldmine for me, since you shared insight with some sort of scale to it - want to attempt to get Wawa's v1 if I can - depending on luck the weapon, but rather unlikely.
I'm expecting to get shafted and got worried about having to go for Dushnev so soon (as the second upcoming banner after Wawa (korean leaks)).
Figured I had to, in order to replace Lotta - she seems like a waste the longer the investment goes on.
Might just skip her then and focus on another unit to take her place, thanks a lot!
Thank you for your positive comment, still make sure to seek out other expert's opinions and decide for yourself in the end!
Her v1 is quite a nice jump, but weapons have good alternatives so do not worry too much about missing out on it.
Lotta can be still decent as a filler unit, she is a free v6r5 after all , just don't dump all your resources into her and give her left over stuff instead haha
Yeah skipping Dush is what most people would suggest indeed.
I don’t understand why Vepely isn’t higher considering she is able to cleanse boss buffs. I don’t know of anyone currently in the game (besides peridia maybe) who is capable of doing that. She has been a staple in most of the under leveled boss clears I’ve seen on TH-cam so far. Someone help me understand!
Great question! Yes shes great for early game that's why you see her in lots of those videos, her being a free unit given out also can explain her high usage rates on lower level accounts (there simply isnt anyone better), even Ive been using her bunch.
QJ can do that cleanse with her fixed key 2 and it basically has perma uptime. Moreover, for bosses their most annoying related buffs are usually not removable so its a situational thing. Having a unique gimmick does not always means its an op gimmick.
@ thank you for the response!
Every other CN tier list I’ve seen has Tololo at tier 0 because of mod key and Springfield synergies
Yeah nothing wrong with that, she got lots of buffs from Sabrina water tiles mod key + Springfield + her own modkey.
may be the tier list is right but I think everyone should build Veplay, she carried the boss fight and peak value assessment so hard, she is tankly (when alone) and she might be the fastest unit.
Yeah she has some super good early game value, I am using her lmao her s3 hits so hard with like little investment
is there a V6R6 tierlist?
Not that I know of but v6ing the t0 characters should be a good guideline. If you are asking about specifically v6 powerspike then its Klukai that has the strongest v6 powerspike. Her at v6 interacts very interestingly with Pertiya making her deal insane amounts of damage.
reddit gfl2 had today efficiency team building one for top guilds'
If something have one should be ok to assume is worth while when whaling.
not accurate tier list you showed since tololo is t0 worthy now
Make a skin tierlist instead
Good idea!
@Ed_Roth yeah definitely will be the first to be there
What about Litara? EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
She is COOKED
@@Ed_Roth nooo my precious 😭
I feel Suomi is good only because she's can shield and heal and is the only 1 that can do this.....
Her ice floor and action support comes in very handy too, not to mention the on demand shield