6:58 - How some modern scholars have used the document 9:22 - Why "Constitution" may not be an appropriate term for the document - It's not a self standing document - It's peace treaty with muslims/jews 12:45 - Why it shouldn't be called a constitution - Quran is primary authoritative text, not the document - It is not used to solve disputes - No sahih isnad for it - It would have been memorized if it was a constitution - Compose in early Madina, some aspects abrogated by Quran 18:25 - Bodies of scholarship around the document - Classical Islamic tradition - Orientalist tradition - Before 1970s was studied as part of historic document (part of seerah) 23:15 - Origins of the document - Sahih reports a treaty was written - Everyone agrees on its authenticity despite lack of isnād (they consider authentic due to contents/language) 27:15 - Text of document - First half of document regarding Muslims, second part Jews - Narration in Bukhari with Ali RD in referencing the document 29:45 - Reading the document - 2 narrations (Abu Ubaid and Ibn Ishaq) - Those who follow Prophet SAW divided into muslims and mu'mins (difference explained) 37:10 - Jihad 41:00 - Prophet SAW's entrance established Yathrib as a city 42:25 - Groups in Madina - Muhājirūn had 1 clan in Madina - All major subclans in Madina named (continued rules on blood money) 46:35 - Population of tribes - Around 10000 altogether 49:20 - New responsibilities of believers (clause 12/13) 54:50 - On killing believers in retaliation of killing disbelievers (clause 14) - Prevents revenge killing 59:15 - Protection of Allah and addressing Jews (clause 15 and 16) - Referring to Jews living amongst muslims 1:02:50 - Jews in Madina and elsewhere 1:06:20 - Peace of believers is one (clause 17) and parties take turn in expeditions (clause 18) 1:07:35 - Sanctity of believer's blood established (clause 19) 1:10:05 - Mushrikeen in Madina will not side with Quraysh (clause 20) 1:12:10 - On retaliation when one is wrongly killed and giving murdurers shelter (clause 21 and clause 22) 1:13:35 - When differs, refer to Prophet SAW and Allah SWT (clause 23) 1:18:05 - Beginning 2nd section (Truce with the Jews) 1:20:00 - Jews bearing expenses (clause 24) 1:24:30 - Relation of jews of banu awf and believers (clause 25) and how jews referred to as jews in Ansari tribes but 3 main jewish tribes not named directly (clause 26-30) 1:31:40 - Remaining clauses 1:43:00 - Questions
It’s fascinating that the Constitution emphasized community over conversion. You didn’t have to become Muslim to be a part of this new society in Medina; you just had to agree to its terms. This reflects a different, often overlooked side of early Islamic history - one that valued inclusivity and unity in the face of external threats. Even non-Muslims, particularly Jews, had rights and responsibilities, including shared defense and mutual protection. For a document over 1,400 years old, it feels surprisingly progressive in acknowledging diversity within a single community. And there’s something beautiful in the way it was designed for real-life practicalities. It wasn’t just religious; it dealt with blood money, alliances, and property rights, which were all crucial issues for tribal societies. It also held everyone accountable, including Muslims, showing that justice wasn’t meant to be biased. Today, we can see why scholars still debate its interpretation. It challenges modern assumptions about religious governance, demonstrating that early Islamic society was more complex and inclusive than we often give it credit for. The Constitution of Medina wasn’t just a set of laws; it was a vision for a balanced, cooperative society - a vision that still resonates as a model of interfaith coexistence.
@@TaiguRyu if it is Islamic republic/country its really not hard to justify non muslims to pay jizzya tax. Islamic state have to create a social contract for them that is acceptable, Its not a nation state. If a nation is build upon Scripture, its oviously not justifiable to force non muslims to believe in them, but the ques will be how they can be loyal citizens to this state? ans: They have to agree this is the base of the nation even they may be dont believe in it, they will respect the law, pay Jizzya nd be loyal to the country. Muslims also pay zakat to the state. Its already happens when a person get citizenship in a new country. Even if he dont agree with some law, he have to agree to follow it. nd its pretty funny ur complaining because in modern nation states we already give a lot of taxes nd give up many freedoms to govt.
Thank you Mr. Paul I would like if there's a back up for this channel We cannot trust Google for such precious treasure, they'll shut down it for their first chance It will also be great there's written publications about the channel content
Jazkhallah khairan brother Paul and Ustaadh Dr. Ovamir for this very enlightening discussion. I have been fascinated about these treaty for years. This treaty refutes many lies about the prophet Mohammed and Muslim, Non-Muslim relationships especially under an Islamic state.
The Muslim community is going through the worst time in the world today. Some of us Muslims have forgotten the Muslims of Palestine and Gaza. I would like to tell Muslims to pray and worry for the Muslims of the entire world from India 🇮🇳
Related fact Madina in Hebrew means state .I think it has similar meaning in ancient arabic Thus some scholars suggested Yathrib name changes to Al Madina ( the city ) because the changes in its political status
It was narrated from Abu Hurairah that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: ‘There are two expressions which are very easy for the tongue to say, but they are very heavy in the balance and are very dear to The Beneficent (Allah), and they are “Subhanallahi wa bihamdihi, Subhanallahil-Azeem”.’
It’s not called “constitution” in Arabic at the time of the prophet it was called (scrolls of medinah, or the covenant of medinah, or sometimes it’s called The charter)
I love the channel and have great respect for the guest. However, explaining Islam, its history, and its politics could be clearer by focusing on some foundational principles. One key principle is understanding that the Prophet ﷺ was a 'messenger prophet,' sent to complete God’s proof (itmam al-hujjah) and deliver a kind of ‘mini-Day of Judgment’ for his people. Previous messenger prophets-such as Noahؑ, Lotؑ, Mosesؑ, and Jesusؑ-also brought judgment upon their people. It’s essential to remember that God Himself declares when His proof is complete; for instance, Jonahؑ was penalized for prematurely departing from his people before receiving that confirmation. At the time of the Misaq of Medina, this completion of proof had not yet occurred, which significantly impacts its interpretation. Additionally, it’s essential to consult the Qur'an on how God uses specific phrases. For instance, Ummat Wahida (أمة واحدة) pertains to a religious community rather than a national one. The Qur'an (2:213 and 10:19) explains that humanity initially formed one community (all believers after Adamؑ), but when people began to differ, God sent prophets to guide them. Finally, when interpreting terms, it’s often more accurate to consider how words were understood by native speakers at the time-in this case, how the people of pre-Islamic Arabia used terms like 'Medina'-rather than relying on etymology. P.S.: Mosesؑ was the messenger to his adopted people (Egyptians) and prophet, along with Aaronؑ, to his ethnic people (Children of Israel). Messengers always use the language of the people they were sent to. Apologies for the lengthy comment, but I hope this adds to the discussion
46:35 Medina's population might be less. For the battle of Badr, on short notice, the Qurasy could gather 1000 troops. But for the battle of Uhud, with more preparation time, 3000 soldiers. Medina's population might be smaller than Makah's because they could only gather 1000 troops for the battle of Uhud.
Hello bother Paul thank you for those great helpful videos. I suggest for you to contact prof almassari about the constitution of Madina. I believe the Madina was a confederacy state to allow all religion to be express at most sovereign
A lot of Muslims try to justify many things like for example secular Muslim socialist have cited the companion “abu dharr alghifari” for his anti wealth hoarding views, linking them to social justice. Ali Shariati and Egypt President Jamal abddl-Nasser notably referenced him to support socialism and arab nationalism, highlighting abu dharr stance against inequality and as a model of justice.
Allah's Messenger said: (I am most close to Jesus, son of Mary, among the whole of mankind in this worldly life and the next life. They said: Allah's Messenger how is it? Thereupon he said: Prophets are brothers in faith, having different mothers. Their religion is, however, one and there is no Apostle between us *between I and Jesus Christ* )
Its such an important document from earlist history of islam, indicating the Prophet practice towards treating muslim belivers n non belivers as a group. It also reflects to Q emphasis to establish peace harmony sharing of resources for the mutual protection of human beings. Its so unfortunate that muslims abundant the Prophet treaties n such practices after his death n resolved to old tribal culture to attack kill capture n establish an authoritarian monarchy n civil wars n killing. Under the political influences muslim were diverted from the message of book. Now we seldom hear muslim scholars talking on madina treaty as Prophet Sunnah.
may be like a inside country like Vatican City or San Marino??? I dont see why not. Macca Madina and another administrative city. this seperation can be good for saudies too. because they seems to accept western fahisha nd want to identified with Saudi nationality more.
That is the most naive idea, Do you want to make Islam like Catholicism???? Besides God ordered Ibrahim to leave his there, for what? Descendants of Ismael are the guardians and servants of Haramin and their visitors Remember Ibrahim's prayer and you will know it will never happen
What a waste of time. Arguing over semantics. Theres a colloquial understanding of constitution and that's what these activitists, or visionaries use. It was not a constitution with a capital C.
Dear Paul It’s a grossly false statement by your guest that there were pagans in the Arabian peninsula past the second century!! I demand your guest to provide historical proof. It does not make sense that the Islamic state spread beyond India and Persia to the east and turkey to the north and as far as Morocco to the west whilst leaving pagans in the Arabian peninsula. Furthermore, Najran of Saudi Arabia has never been a Yamani and its people are from bani Yaam, a big tribe that stretches as far as the Arabian Gulf to the East.
Allah and Mohamed believed that the sun sets in murky water…enough said! 🤣 Sunan Abi Dawud 4002 Narrated Abu Dharr: I was sitting behind the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets ? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water (Hamiyah). How is this from god? Hilarious…
@@karimb972 Bad translation…Arabic text translation with DeepL translator: Othman ibn Abi Shaybah and 'Ubaydullah ibn 'Umar ibn Maysara - the meaning is the same - said: Yazid ibn Harun, from Sufyan ibn Husayn, from al-Hakam ibn Utaybah, from Abraham al-Tayyimah, from his father, from Abu Dharr, said: "I was riding on a donkey when the sun was setting, and he said: "Do you know where this sun will set?I said, "Allah and His Messenger know best." He said, "Indeed, it will set in a hot eye. Still stupid and flat out wrong! Right? Next excuse please!
@@peaceforhumanity1886 hadith are hear/say story's from men ! Sun and moon does not refure to the sun and moon in the sky. If you understand the sun and moon in the story of yusuf you might get some insights.
6:58 - How some modern scholars have used the document
9:22 - Why "Constitution" may not be an appropriate term for the document
- It's not a self standing document
- It's peace treaty with muslims/jews
12:45 - Why it shouldn't be called a constitution
- Quran is primary authoritative text, not the document
- It is not used to solve disputes
- No sahih isnad for it
- It would have been memorized if it was a constitution
- Compose in early Madina, some aspects abrogated by Quran
18:25 - Bodies of scholarship around the document
- Classical Islamic tradition
- Orientalist tradition
- Before 1970s was studied as part of historic document (part of seerah)
23:15 - Origins of the document
- Sahih reports a treaty was written
- Everyone agrees on its authenticity despite lack of isnād (they consider authentic due to contents/language)
27:15 - Text of document
- First half of document regarding Muslims, second part Jews
- Narration in Bukhari with Ali RD in referencing the document
29:45 - Reading the document
- 2 narrations (Abu Ubaid and Ibn Ishaq)
- Those who follow Prophet SAW divided into muslims and mu'mins (difference explained)
37:10 - Jihad
41:00 - Prophet SAW's entrance established Yathrib as a city
42:25 - Groups in Madina
- Muhājirūn had 1 clan in Madina
- All major subclans in Madina named (continued rules on blood money)
46:35 - Population of tribes
- Around 10000 altogether
49:20 - New responsibilities of believers (clause 12/13)
54:50 - On killing believers in retaliation of killing disbelievers (clause 14)
- Prevents revenge killing
59:15 - Protection of Allah and addressing Jews (clause 15 and 16)
- Referring to Jews living amongst muslims
1:02:50 - Jews in Madina and elsewhere
1:06:20 - Peace of believers is one (clause 17) and parties take turn in expeditions (clause 18)
1:07:35 - Sanctity of believer's blood established (clause 19)
1:10:05 - Mushrikeen in Madina will not side with Quraysh (clause 20)
1:12:10 - On retaliation when one is wrongly killed and giving murdurers shelter (clause 21 and clause 22)
1:13:35 - When differs, refer to Prophet SAW and Allah SWT (clause 23)
1:18:05 - Beginning 2nd section (Truce with the Jews)
1:20:00 - Jews bearing expenses (clause 24)
1:24:30 - Relation of jews of banu awf and believers (clause 25) and how jews referred to as jews in Ansari tribes but 3 main jewish tribes not named directly (clause 26-30)
1:31:40 - Remaining clauses
1:43:00 - Questions
thanks!
Brother Paul always spoils us with distinguished guests.
True
cant wait for this one insha Allah! i have been meaning to read his article on this for ages now
It’s fascinating that the Constitution emphasized community over conversion. You didn’t have to become Muslim to be a part of this new society in Medina; you just had to agree to its terms. This reflects a different, often overlooked side of early Islamic history - one that valued inclusivity and unity in the face of external threats. Even non-Muslims, particularly Jews, had rights and responsibilities, including shared defense and mutual protection. For a document over 1,400 years old, it feels surprisingly progressive in acknowledging diversity within a single community.
And there’s something beautiful in the way it was designed for real-life practicalities. It wasn’t just religious; it dealt with blood money, alliances, and property rights, which were all crucial issues for tribal societies. It also held everyone accountable, including Muslims, showing that justice wasn’t meant to be biased.
Today, we can see why scholars still debate its interpretation. It challenges modern assumptions about religious governance, demonstrating that early Islamic society was more complex and inclusive than we often give it credit for. The Constitution of Medina wasn’t just a set of laws; it was a vision for a balanced, cooperative society - a vision that still resonates as a model of interfaith coexistence.
Did you watch the entire video?
@ Yes, why?
As long as you paid your Jizzya. 🙄
@@TaiguRyuWhy? Today you never pay taxes ???
@@TaiguRyu if it is Islamic republic/country its really not hard to justify non muslims to pay jizzya tax. Islamic state have to create a social contract for them that is acceptable, Its not a nation state. If a nation is build upon Scripture, its oviously not justifiable to force non muslims to believe in them, but the ques will be how they can be loyal citizens to this state? ans: They have to agree this is the base of the nation even they may be dont believe in it, they will respect the law, pay Jizzya nd be loyal to the country. Muslims also pay zakat to the state.
Its already happens when a person get citizenship in a new country. Even if he dont agree with some law, he have to agree to follow it. nd its pretty funny ur complaining because in modern nation states we already give a lot of taxes nd give up many freedoms to govt.
Thank you Mr. Paul
I would like if there's a back up for this channel
We cannot trust Google for such precious treasure, they'll shut down it for their first chance
It will also be great there's written publications about the channel content
Thanks brothers for sharing such valuable insights. Always appreciate your knowledge!
May Allah the almighty bless you all aameen
Thanks Paul 🙌
Jazkhallah khairan brother Paul and Ustaadh Dr. Ovamir for this very enlightening discussion. I have been fascinated about these treaty for years. This treaty refutes many lies about the prophet Mohammed and Muslim, Non-Muslim relationships especially under an Islamic state.
Great Video! Please publish more videos like this. And fewer videos about "We were great 1000 years ago!" etc.
Masha Allah ♥️ Alhamdulillah
The Muslim community is going through the worst time in the world today. Some of us Muslims have forgotten the Muslims of Palestine and Gaza. I would like to tell Muslims to pray and worry for the Muslims of the entire world
from India 🇮🇳
As well the Sudanese, the Ugurs in China
Don't forget Muslims in Pakistan under oppression by fellow "Muslims"!
Not just falisteen but Yemen Sudan Syria and Bakistan
SubhanAllah
Related fact Madina in Hebrew means state .I think it has similar meaning in ancient arabic Thus some scholars suggested Yathrib name changes to Al Madina ( the city ) because the changes in its political status
Constitution of Madina by Dr Hassan Mohi Ud Din Qadri Sb is master piece
It was narrated from Abu Hurairah that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: ‘There are two expressions which are very easy for the tongue to say, but they are very heavy in the balance and are very dear to The Beneficent (Allah), and they are “Subhanallahi wa bihamdihi, Subhanallahil-Azeem”.’
When I was younger we called it the "Treaty of Medina". Obviously, "constitution" and "treaty" have COMPLETELY different connotations.
i dont think its a treaty because the prophet was not the leader of Madina at the beginning so it was a confederal state
I knew it as the "Charter of Medina".
He was @@asemalshoura519
It’s not called “constitution” in Arabic at the time of the prophet it was called (scrolls of medinah, or the covenant of medinah, or sometimes it’s called The charter)
Come on Legendary Paul. Sir when will you have Professor Wael Hallaq as part of your great presentations.
One day inshaAllah!
I love the channel and have great respect for the guest. However, explaining Islam, its history, and its politics could be clearer by focusing on some foundational principles. One key principle is understanding that the Prophet ﷺ was a 'messenger prophet,' sent to complete God’s proof (itmam al-hujjah) and deliver a kind of ‘mini-Day of Judgment’ for his people. Previous messenger prophets-such as Noahؑ, Lotؑ, Mosesؑ, and Jesusؑ-also brought judgment upon their people. It’s essential to remember that God Himself declares when His proof is complete; for instance, Jonahؑ was penalized for prematurely departing from his people before receiving that confirmation.
At the time of the Misaq of Medina, this completion of proof had not yet occurred, which significantly impacts its interpretation.
Additionally, it’s essential to consult the Qur'an on how God uses specific phrases. For instance, Ummat Wahida (أمة واحدة) pertains to a religious community rather than a national one. The Qur'an (2:213 and 10:19) explains that humanity initially formed one community (all believers after Adamؑ), but when people began to differ, God sent prophets to guide them.
Finally, when interpreting terms, it’s often more accurate to consider how words were understood by native speakers at the time-in this case, how the people of pre-Islamic Arabia used terms like 'Medina'-rather than relying on etymology.
P.S.: Mosesؑ was the messenger to his adopted people (Egyptians) and prophet, along with Aaronؑ, to his ethnic people (Children of Israel). Messengers always use the language of the people they were sent to.
Apologies for the lengthy comment, but I hope this adds to the discussion
Thanks
46:35 Medina's population might be less.
For the battle of Badr, on short notice, the Qurasy could gather 1000 troops. But for the battle of Uhud, with more preparation time, 3000 soldiers. Medina's population might be smaller than Makah's because they could only gather 1000 troops for the battle of Uhud.
Hello bother Paul thank you for those great helpful videos. I suggest for you to contact prof almassari about the constitution of Madina. I believe the Madina was a confederacy state to allow all religion to be express at most sovereign
any thoughts on Professor Muhammad Al Massari's treatise on the subject, ground breaking work? Arabic and English are available now on line
Book of Madina is divine declaration and proclamation mercy to mankind anywhere it should not to be restrected to a state or region .
A lot of Muslims try to justify many things like for example secular Muslim socialist have cited the companion “abu dharr alghifari” for his anti wealth hoarding views, linking them to social justice. Ali Shariati and Egypt President Jamal abddl-Nasser notably referenced him to support socialism and arab nationalism, highlighting abu dharr stance against inequality and as a model of justice.
How can I send a book to brother Paul to read.
Allah's Messenger said:
(I am most close to Jesus, son of Mary, among the whole of mankind in this worldly life and the next life. They said: Allah's Messenger how is it? Thereupon he said: Prophets are brothers in faith, having different mothers. Their religion is, however, one and there is no Apostle between us *between I and Jesus Christ* )
Madina's charter.
Its such an important document from earlist history of islam, indicating the Prophet practice towards treating muslim belivers n non belivers as a group. It also reflects to Q emphasis to establish peace harmony sharing of resources for the mutual protection of human beings. Its so unfortunate that muslims abundant the Prophet treaties n such practices after his death n resolved to old tribal culture to attack kill capture n establish an authoritarian monarchy n civil wars n killing. Under the political influences muslim were diverted from the message of book. Now we seldom hear muslim scholars talking on madina treaty as Prophet Sunnah.
1:08:06 to 1:10:06 Trolled American Hyprocrisy without anyone concentrating
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I personally believe that Macca and madina should be a free nation from Saudi Arabia
Yes, free Gary Mac!! 😂
may be like a inside country like Vatican City or San Marino??? I dont see why not. Macca Madina and another administrative city. this seperation can be good for saudies too. because they seems to accept western fahisha nd want to identified with Saudi nationality more.
Free Al Haramain
That is the most naive idea, Do you want to make Islam like Catholicism????
Besides God ordered Ibrahim to leave his there, for what?
Descendants of Ismael are the guardians and servants of Haramin and their visitors
Remember Ibrahim's prayer and you will know it will never happen
هذا حلم إبليس بالجنة
حفظ الله بلادنا السعودية وجعلها منارة للاسلام والمسلمين
First! :)
What a waste of time. Arguing over semantics. Theres a colloquial understanding of constitution and that's what these activitists, or visionaries use. It was not a constitution with a capital C.
Dear Paul
It’s a grossly false statement by your guest that there were pagans in the Arabian peninsula past the second century!!
I demand your guest to provide historical proof. It does not make sense that the Islamic state spread beyond India and Persia to the east and turkey to the north and as far as Morocco to the west whilst leaving pagans in the Arabian peninsula.
Furthermore, Najran of Saudi Arabia has never been a Yamani and its people are from bani Yaam, a big tribe that stretches as far as the Arabian Gulf to the East.
Pegans where even in meka bro, from the time of the profhet til now!
I guess you should go to Saudi Arabia to dessimate this idea.
You lost me when you referenced an 'israeli' scholar
Misconceptions About The “Constitution” of Medina???
MISCONCEPTIONS OR OUTRIGHT LIES?
BAFS
Allah and Mohamed believed that the sun sets in murky water…enough said! 🤣
Sunan Abi Dawud 4002
Narrated Abu Dharr:
I was sitting behind the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets ? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water (Hamiyah).
How is this from god? Hilarious…
Bad translation. Enough said. How can someone that is serious about God make asinine comments like this with dumb laughing emojis and all?
@@karimb972
Bad translation…Arabic text translation with DeepL translator:
Othman ibn Abi Shaybah and 'Ubaydullah ibn 'Umar ibn Maysara - the meaning is the same - said: Yazid ibn Harun, from Sufyan ibn Husayn, from al-Hakam ibn Utaybah, from Abraham al-Tayyimah, from his father, from Abu Dharr, said: "I was riding on a donkey when the sun was setting, and he said: "Do you know where this sun will set?I said, "Allah and His Messenger know best." He said, "Indeed, it will set in a hot eye.
Still stupid and flat out wrong! Right?
Next excuse please!
😂😂😂 you already have 2 distinct translations, which one do you agree with?@peaceforhumanity1886
@@peaceforhumanity1886 hadith are hear/say story's from men ! Sun and moon does not refure to the sun and moon in the sky. If you understand the sun and moon in the story of yusuf you might get some insights.
@@shafiumohammed1977
Both prove Mohamed to be a false prophet so I don’t care which one. 😎