This station provides public transportation access to a park with hiking, picnic tables and playgrounds. This is what public transportation should do. It addresses one barrier to outside play in nature for people who don’t have cars. But there are so many other barriers.
It's Smedley Park.. fun fact the trolley can only stop for the residents who live on Paper Mill Rd after sunset. Anyone else getting off can be issued a citation for being in Smedley Park after hours.
As someone whose use that station (that park is a primo stoner spot lol) quite often when I lived on the 101, it's a special little place. Though at this point it main purpose is to feed the park and the park itself has kinda been dying....then again they ran a major interstate through the middle of it in the 1990s so that's explains it
@@jeremyzorek Yep. Me and some Pagan friends would meet there in the 1980s to hold ritual. They put the damned highway right over our spot!!! Grrrrrr.... Ruined a perfectly good beautiful park.
In case your curious, New Jersey Transit’s least used station is Mt Olive on the Morristown line and the Montclair Boonton Line with 16 average weekday riders
I’ve been to Convent Station before, and it’s daily ridership in 2017 was 1,035. It’s located between Madison and Morristown that’s probably why it has good ridership.
@Septafan5590 *jems should be gems. There's no such word in English as "jems"; but, of course, you're probably typing on those teeny-tiny "smart" phone keyboards, so I'll give you a pass on that. 😺
my trolley broken down there and I was forced to walk up Paper Mill Rd to Baltimore Pike to Springfield Mall. The hike up that hill is a workout. I usually ride that trolley to work daily because the 110 bus takes forever to get to 69th St.
I came close to getting married in this park during early covid, as a nice outdoor space that was outside city limits (philly parks were officially not allowing food or beverage consumption at this point, and I am nothing if not a park rule follower) where my partner and our five friends could easily gather for a self-uniting ceremony and drink champagne. instead... it happened in collingdale
I wanted to visit this station after I watched this video. When I got there late afternoon, I took a stroll on the Springfield Trail and explored Smedley Park. I did see 1 person board the trolley when I arrived, and when I got on the trolley there was one other person waiting. Other than that there's not much to do or see there, but it's a nice station.
From Wikipedia: "The Sharon Hill Line (Route 102) was originally built by the Philadelphia and West Chester Traction Company, and opened on March 15, *1906*, and the Media Line (Route 101) was originally built by the same company, opening on April 1, *1913*. The lines were later bought by the Philadelphia Suburban Transit Company in 1954." Orange Street, Media, is the last stop. (I used to get on here when I lived in Media.)
You are lucky that Station is still open , if it was here in Auckland New Zealand it would have been bulldozed years ago . As 1 station on their network was getting around 400 passengers a day , it was closed and 6 months later at the Easter 4day weekend it was gone never to be seen again .
I'll have to check out this station and boost the ridership. My wife and I moved last week from Alexandria, Va., to Drexel Hill, Pa. (still car free, much cheaper).
I always thought the main reason for this station was to serve the park. I don’t think it’s a station used by commuters as much as people using the park for recreation. I would bet there are more users on the weekend rather than a week day.
Least used historic SEPTA stations would be interesting, Allentown/Bethlehem, PA for example. They'd have the most potential for a new station since SEPTA discontinued diesel service in the 80s. I recommend visiting the Lehigh Valley, and riding LANTA!
These look like the Boeing LRVs which was used on the Municiple Transit Authority in San Francisco, California from 1979 to 2001, also the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority in Boston, Massachusetts on the Green Line from 1976 to 2007 Replaced by the 1986-1997 Kinki Sharyo Type 7 LRVS and the 1998-2007 AnsaldoBreta Type 8 Low Floor LRVs. The MUNI Beoing LRV's were replaced by the LRV 1 also Built by AnsaldoBreta from 1996-1998 and the LRV 2 same company from 1999 to 2002.
The fact that the stop gives access to a public park should make it point worthy -- how about giving it at least 1 point for that reason? It should have a schedule posted somewhere so that passengers would know when to go there.
Those are some high scores for a station in the middle of nowhere. I'd give it a 3/10, if anything a 3.5/10, the .5 for the fact that you found a condom.
Since the trolleys fly through at speed if no one's waiting, it's not really inconveniencing anyone by existing. That's my justification for really liking it - it'd be different if it was a heavy rail stop that slowed every train down.
Between this video and Classy Whales trip with you to RI, these are almost making up for me not being able to be with you on Sunday. By the way, that bench looks like it might be Classy Whale size.
My estimate for Paper Mill Road: 20 riders per weekday. Edit: *WHAT-* On a Light Rail station too??? This does highlight the importance of good land use around transit... Transit doesn't work without good land use and vice versa Though there is probably no ridership data, would subway-surface trolley stops count? If so, I'd guess the stops on the 13 'limited' between Darby and Yeadon might be pretty low... Also I didn't realize the 101 technically has 'traffic signal priority', that's neat Good video as always! Are you kind of going back into the groove of "Station reviews," in a way? (I'd honestly suggest link this video and the 89 onto the blog's SEPTA review page)
Thanks for an interesting video. Appreciated the subtitles but you guys talk so fast I had to stop them to keep up. Hope I see more stuff on your channel.
I have taken both the 101 and 102 before. Both lines have great service. The issue is that they both terminate at 69th Street Terminal. Anyone who uses these lines knows that having to get off at 69th Street and getting on the MFL is a huge pain in the ass. I know this would NEVER happen but would be nice if they built a tunnel under Market Street and ran both lines under Market Street in an express from 69th Street to the 36th Street Portal Trolley Station to then connect to the underground trolley lines that terminate at 13th street, while also have only a drop off at 69th street, no boarding, heading into the city. It would be nice to take a ride on the trolley directly into center city without having to deal with all the panhandlers and scammers as you transfer at 69th. Septa PD and Upper Darby PD have no cares in cleaning up the station from these people who loiter and harass the suburban people.
Έλα ρε παιδιά! Το πρόβλημα δεν είναι ότι υπάρχει στάση κάπου που δεν εξυπηρετεί κανέναν, το πρόβλημα θα ήταν αν υπήρχε σημείο που θα μπορούσε να εξυπηρετήσει επιβάτες και το τραίνο δεν σταματάει!
Check out the ridership at Jessup station on the MARC Camden line... It's one person daily (with 75 parking spaces, of course) en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessup_station
WHAT IS going on with the SUBWAY? I got on the train three times and that's it for me. 1.) There on the train smoking like there at a bar and I've never been to one. 2.) Folks hopping over the turn style like there supposed to. 3.) High schoolers hollering out drug sales (hollering) 4.) Everybody talking to their self. 5.) Folks sitting on the train both feet up on the chairs talking at the top of their lungs on the phone .........but no ones on the other line. 6.) Septa workers DJ ing ...? ...in the turn style booth??.. ( I'm not joking) 7.) You ask the Septa workers for help, they don't know anything. 8.) Drug needles and everything on the train The homeless people even got up and left. What in the world????? Something is wrong on the Orange Line. I don't know what it is.
@@MilesinTransit I know that SEPTA occasionally uses manual passenger counts on their busses and trolleys out of 69th street. So I assume that is where the data is coming from.
seeing the philly trolleys does make me nostalgic for the old toronto streetcars even though they were a pain in the ass to board and exit and impossible for wheelchair users. side note the ttc has rapidly been retrofitting subway stations to meet a 2025 deadline for full accessibility to comply with AODA (the ADA of ontario) and it looks like theyre gonna finish a year early which would be sick. Would be nice to see in other cities with old subways. the excuse is always that they're too old to retrofit but the toronto subway opened in the 50s and we're doing it so seems made up. Might take some creativity, engineering and $$$ but it's clearly not rocket surgery.
I think it's a case where the expense of running the station is lower than the fallout there would be from closing it! Its existence also doesn't cost the trolleys too much time since they just fly through if no one's waiting.
This station provides public transportation access to a park with hiking, picnic tables and playgrounds. This is what public transportation should do. It addresses one barrier to outside play in nature for people who don’t have cars. But there are so many other barriers.
It's Smedley Park.. fun fact the trolley can only stop for the residents who live on Paper Mill Rd after sunset. Anyone else getting off can be issued a citation for being in Smedley Park after hours.
Wow, good thing we left when we did!
You can still get off after sunset, but you can't leave the platform/SEPTA property (legally)
That is crazy, why would that even happen?
Paper Mill Road boards: 6; leaves: 9
And the route's eastern terminus is 69th Street...double nice
Oh dang, good point! Guess that's why some people had fun here
😏
"Someone had some fun here" Aww, they tried to make out with the station to create another least-used station...how kind
Oh naw It's Kim Jong Un himself 😧😧😧😧 0_0
@@nysubwaydude5634🇰🇵
So very proud of my hometown for hosting the raunchiest Miles in Transit video.
As someone whose use that station (that park is a primo stoner spot lol) quite often when I lived on the 101, it's a special little place. Though at this point it main purpose is to feed the park and the park itself has kinda been dying....then again they ran a major interstate through the middle of it in the 1990s so that's explains it
Holy cow the highway's that recent?
@@jeremyzorek Yep. Me and some Pagan friends would meet there in the 1980s to hold ritual. They put the damned highway right over our spot!!! Grrrrrr.... Ruined a perfectly good beautiful park.
In case your curious, New Jersey Transit’s least used station is Mt Olive on the Morristown line and the Montclair Boonton Line with 16 average weekday riders
I'm surprised Convent isn't the least used station.
I’ve been to Convent Station before, and it’s daily ridership in 2017 was 1,035. It’s located between Madison and Morristown that’s probably why it has good ridership.
I'm into the idea of doing other least used stations besides Amtrak! That's a good one.
@@basil_1010 Its located next to 2 university thats why ridership is high..
@@Nexis4Jersey yeah, that too
Love to see these less common stations being shown. Nice to explore. Thank you for the fun videos.
Thank you for watching!
so many hidden gems on SEPTA, holy cow
Yeah true
@Septafan5590 *jems should be gems. There's no such word in English as "jems"; but, of course, you're probably typing on those teeny-tiny "smart" phone keyboards, so I'll give you a pass on that. 😺
my trolley broken down there and I was forced to walk up Paper Mill Rd to Baltimore Pike to Springfield Mall. The hike up that hill is a workout. I usually ride that trolley to work daily because the 110 bus takes forever to get to 69th St.
I came close to getting married in this park during early covid, as a nice outdoor space that was outside city limits (philly parks were officially not allowing food or beverage consumption at this point, and I am nothing if not a park rule follower) where my partner and our five friends could easily gather for a self-uniting ceremony and drink champagne. instead... it happened in collingdale
Wow, congratulations!!
Whoa that's crazy - I was JUST looking at that station on Google Maps and Street View the other day
The "alright, stop it!" at the end got me lol
I wanted to visit this station after I watched this video. When I got there late afternoon, I took a stroll on the Springfield Trail and explored Smedley Park. I did see 1 person board the trolley when I arrived, and when I got on the trolley there was one other person waiting. Other than that there's not much to do or see there, but it's a nice station.
From Wikipedia: "The Sharon Hill Line (Route 102) was originally built by the Philadelphia and West Chester Traction Company, and opened on March 15, *1906*, and the Media Line (Route 101) was originally built by the same company, opening on April 1, *1913*. The lines were later bought by the Philadelphia Suburban Transit Company in 1954."
Orange Street, Media, is the last stop. (I used to get on here when I lived in Media.)
You are lucky that Station is still open , if it was here in Auckland New Zealand it would have been bulldozed years ago . As 1 station on their network was getting around 400 passengers a day , it was closed and 6 months later at the Easter 4day weekend it was gone never to be seen again .
Ahh good ole Smedly park. Great mountain biking there, only if i could get my bike on the trolley
Maybe after Trolley Mod, whenever that happens...
Thank you for bringing us this very interesting and informative video presentation which is very much appreciated by the people.
I'll have to check out this station and boost the ridership. My wife and I moved last week from Alexandria, Va., to Drexel Hill, Pa. (still car free, much cheaper).
I always thought the main reason for this station was to serve the park. I don’t think it’s a station used by commuters as much as people using the park for recreation. I would bet there are more users on the weekend rather than a week day.
Least used historic SEPTA stations would be interesting, Allentown/Bethlehem, PA for example. They'd have the most potential for a new station since SEPTA discontinued diesel service in the 80s. I recommend visiting the Lehigh Valley, and riding LANTA!
These look like the Boeing LRVs which was used on the Municiple Transit Authority in San Francisco, California from 1979 to 2001, also the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority in Boston, Massachusetts on the Green Line from 1976 to 2007 Replaced by the 1986-1997 Kinki Sharyo Type 7 LRVS and the 1998-2007 AnsaldoBreta Type 8 Low Floor LRVs. The MUNI Beoing LRV's were replaced by the LRV 1 also Built by AnsaldoBreta from 1996-1998 and the LRV 2 same company from 1999 to 2002.
The fact that the stop gives access to a public park should make it point worthy -- how about giving it at least 1 point for that reason?
It should have a schedule posted somewhere so that passengers would know when to go there.
Nice vid
Septa rt 101 has some very interesting features
That's a cute little station on a cute little trolley line 🥰
Thanks for the shout out to those who would benefit from accomodations!
This Has to be the most chaotic video I've ever seen about infrastructure
3:35 "it has all you need in a station" except the ability to leave th e station
Those are some high scores for a station in the middle of nowhere. I'd give it a 3/10, if anything a 3.5/10, the .5 for the fact that you found a condom.
Since the trolleys fly through at speed if no one's waiting, it's not really inconveniencing anyone by existing. That's my justification for really liking it - it'd be different if it was a heavy rail stop that slowed every train down.
Yall wanna know about unused stations and rail check out el tren urbano (the urban train) in San Juan, PR. I'd love a video about it one day
Oh, I would LOVE to ride the Tren Urbano. Someday!
i think it gets 15 boardings per weekday
It's 6 boardings and 9 leavings!
Jackson, you gotta find some more diners!!!
Quite interesting. While I have yet to visit this station, I am aware that it's relatively close to the Springfield Mall.
Where they were going to Media Pennsylvania or the 69th street terminal in Upper Darby Pennsylvania.
From the station we went out to Media, met up with some friends, and then came back in (that's why the review at the end is filmed by someone else).
I would never get off at this station unless someone is waiting for me. It looks creepy and deserted.
Especially at night. I used to ride it when I lived in Media and then again in Drexel Hill. Happily moved away from PA.
When is the debut of the Jeremy in Transit channel?!
Oh God love it. Wanna go there 😅
Maybe do a video on the least used NJ Transit bus line???🤷🏽♂️
Do you know what it is? Is that info publicly available? Because that WOULD be really fun!
Between this video and Classy Whales trip with you to RI, these are almost making up for me not being able to be with you on Sunday. By the way, that bench looks like it might be Classy Whale size.
I am guessing no more than 10 boardings per weekday.
My estimate for Paper Mill Road: 20 riders per weekday.
Edit: *WHAT-*
On a Light Rail station too???
This does highlight the importance of good land use around transit... Transit doesn't work without good land use and vice versa
Though there is probably no ridership data, would subway-surface trolley stops count? If so, I'd guess the stops on the 13 'limited' between Darby and Yeadon might be pretty low...
Also I didn't realize the 101 technically has 'traffic signal priority', that's neat
Good video as always! Are you kind of going back into the groove of "Station reviews," in a way? (I'd honestly suggest link this video and the 89 onto the blog's SEPTA review page)
Those surface stops probably do have fewer riders, but there's no data for them!
I'm guessing 10 riders per weekday (optimistic for double digits)
Thanks for an interesting video. Appreciated the subtitles but you guys talk so fast I had to stop them to keep up. Hope I see more stuff on your channel.
We got trolleys going to the suburbs but no 23 trolley even tho we still have tracks 💔
I am laughing at the concept of accessibility on the 101
And by that I mean their accessability for those who need it, is, unfortunately, laughable.
America's Answer to Geoff Marshall
I have taken both the 101 and 102 before. Both lines have great service. The issue is that they both terminate at 69th Street Terminal. Anyone who uses these lines knows that having to get off at 69th Street and getting on the MFL is a huge pain in the ass. I know this would NEVER happen but would be nice if they built a tunnel under Market Street and ran both lines under Market Street in an express from 69th Street to the 36th Street Portal Trolley Station to then connect to the underground trolley lines that terminate at 13th street, while also have only a drop off at 69th street, no boarding, heading into the city. It would be nice to take a ride on the trolley directly into center city without having to deal with all the panhandlers and scammers as you transfer at 69th. Septa PD and Upper Darby PD have no cares in cleaning up the station from these people who loiter and harass the suburban people.
You do another SEPTA trolley but the 15 but sadly running buses but you can do a video
Once the trolleys come back on the 15, it'll get a video!
@@MilesinTransit I heard some rumors they might come back around January 2023 but I'm not fully for sure but that's what I hear
Miles has gone miles for his viewers.
2:34 I'm sorry, did you completely forget about Jordan's Wellesley Farms review?
GOOD POINT
Is Jeremy actually tall enough to be riding some of these lines?😁
I mean this week it appears to be you guys, so its 3!
Έλα ρε παιδιά! Το πρόβλημα δεν είναι ότι υπάρχει στάση κάπου που δεν εξυπηρετεί κανέναν, το πρόβλημα θα ήταν αν υπήρχε σημείο που θα μπορούσε να εξυπηρετήσει επιβάτες και το τραίνο δεν σταματάει!
2 boardings per weekday
42 boardings per weekday
25 boardings per weekday?
I’m guessing 9 people per day?
I guessed 3, and forgot the MIT team counted.
The curly head one is kinda hot 🔥 🤔😁
18 pax boarding per weekday?
Dang!!!
Check out the ridership at Jessup station on the MARC Camden line...
It's one person daily (with 75 parking spaces, of course)
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessup_station
And it dropped by 50%. Guess the one other person using the station found a different method of transportation lol
INCREDIBLE! Wow, I really want to visit that! I would've thought Laurel Racetrack got less, but that gets DOUBLE ( ;) ) what Jessup does...
@@MilesinTransit can I come with lol (I'm also in Philly)
WHAT IS going on with the SUBWAY?
I got on the train three times and that's it for me.
1.) There on the train smoking like there at a bar and I've never been to one.
2.) Folks hopping over the turn style like there supposed to.
3.) High schoolers hollering out drug sales (hollering)
4.) Everybody talking to their self.
5.) Folks sitting on the train both feet up on the chairs talking at the top of their lungs on the phone
.........but no ones on the other line.
6.) Septa workers DJ ing ...? ...in the turn style booth??.. ( I'm not joking)
7.) You ask the Septa workers for help, they don't know anything.
8.) Drug needles and everything on the train
The homeless people even got up and left. What in the world?????
Something is wrong on the Orange Line. I don't know what it is.
3:48
WATCH THE TRAMCAR PLEASE!
I’m guessing 5
Really close!
I guess 14 !!
The problem with public transportation is that it usually brings trash into nice area
Uh-huh
Guessing now: 5.
Result. WOOO! I was close!
Nicely done!
5 boardings
Very close!
That station only has a single platform and a single track anyway. It should really b closed.
On the other hand, it's not really hurting anyone by staying open...the trolleys blast through if no one's waiting.
I'm guessing 2.37. You beat the average just by making this video.
Who is counting the passengers ?
I'm not sure actually! I've seen manual passenger counters on the city trolleys, so maybe that's how they do it for the suburban ones too?
@@MilesinTransit I know that SEPTA occasionally uses manual passenger counts on their busses and trolleys out of 69th street. So I assume that is where the data is coming from.
3 riders per week?
I think that's less than even the least used Amtrak station in the country!
Why the hell is that Station even there 🤣
Transit accessible playground, I guess...
18 per week
DELCO
10 boardings
Pretty close!
My estimate: 5.
Really close!
seeing the philly trolleys does make me nostalgic for the old toronto streetcars even though they were a pain in the ass to board and exit and impossible for wheelchair users. side note the ttc has rapidly been retrofitting subway stations to meet a 2025 deadline for full accessibility to comply with AODA (the ADA of ontario) and it looks like theyre gonna finish a year early which would be sick. Would be nice to see in other cities with old subways. the excuse is always that they're too old to retrofit but the toronto subway opened in the 50s and we're doing it so seems made up. Might take some creativity, engineering and $$$ but it's clearly not rocket surgery.
6
I’m a genius
Why keep such a little-used station in service? 🤔
I think it's a case where the expense of running the station is lower than the fallout there would be from closing it! Its existence also doesn't cost the trolleys too much time since they just fly through if no one's waiting.
Japan have one
I’m gonna guess 5
1 off!
I thought Thomson was the least used... Guess not
3 billion
So close
8 people
I WAS OFF BY 2
Good guess!
14
15
35
11
34
Well that's embarrassing
It's shockingly low!
9
5
Good guess!
4
15
35