I never thought Fox was a leader nor has he ever demonstrated that killer instinct ever...I would not build a franchise around him at all. He doeant have a leadership/lions mentality. He never had that dog in him
It happen because the players are soft. The culture is soft. doesnt matter what coach they have, no coach will make them better when they literally dont lock in and have terrible IQ and execution.
Dude I’ve been following so closely all off season this is the weirdest feeling watching every game and it’s just falling apart I thought we were on the come up
I have already vented elsewhere.... I'm giving Trey day his flowers on this one! Hes the epitome of Sacramento, underdog, has fight, isn't full of himself. Was so happy to see him look like himself tonight
I agree, specially in this game. Players more at fault. No bball IQ, no killer instinct, no drive. Just a bunch of discombobulated, lackadaisical, bums.
We all know the moment rich paul became Fox’s agent the writing was on the wall. Fox’s attitude changed and the way clutch business model is “push your talent to bigger markets” or go play with other clutch promotion players, strangle hold the team and control player operations. You need to trade fox (sell high)
I thought there was no way even these Kings lose a 10 point lead with under 3 to play against the pistons... I actually laughed out loud in disgust at the gym when I saw the final score
We should have traded Keegan Murray. Now let's what we can do with to many players to be traded: Huerter, Lyles, Murray, DeRozen and maybe Fox. It's a rebuild time...and we have a really blur perspectives.
This is going to sound like the dumbest take on Fox I have given all year, but that last play, it looked like he did that on purpose, I know that sounds crazy, but watching that play back, it looked like intentional sabotage, I know that sounds insane, that is just the way it looked watching the replay over and over You can be a terrible player on a Kings Roster and get mad love from the fans, but the one thing you can not do is publicly air you "dirty laundry" about your team in a town where loyalty is by far the Kings fans greatest trait... Fair or unfair, It just appears not only has Fox turned "Heel" butt he has reached a point where he absolutely can not hide his "checked out" vibe There is no one trade or piece that fixes this, when one player checks out, it becomes contagious and things can get even worse then they are now I dont see an out now, I see another 10-15 years of a small town market that just couldnt ever reach it's potential until the team is eventually sold off... In the 30 + years I been watching the Kings, I dont think I have ever seen this many Kings players at the podium who "outwardly" appear to show just how little they care about what their fans think...
should’ve bet that feeling then, kings were -12500 live pistons were +10000. meaning you’d have to bet 12k to make $100 off the kings while $100 wins you 10k off the pistons……
I think Fox is trying to get rid of Mike brown and because it isn’t working Fox is realizing Vivek is turning on Fox and Fox is mad and having a meltdown
As a Kings fan since 2000 idk wtf is happening this year to us… we have so much talent being wasted. Is it time to blow it up and rebuild? Keegan is a fail and Huerter should’ve been gone for 2 years now. It’s all bad right now
GSW has curry that leads by example and they have Green as their vocal leader and Iggy back then. Kings have Fox and that's it. I see Domas being vocal from time to time but not consistently.
De’Aaron is MORE than welcome to join his business partner in the Bay! I’m sure they’d be willing to move 4 or 5 players to make the $$$ make sense. I’ve been watching him since he joined the Kings, and I love him! 💜➡️💙💛 😏😁✌🏽
It’s so crazy to me we’ve gotten to this point… but none of us kings fans are surprised. If Fox doesn’t wanna be here, honestly I’m fine with that. A month ago I wouldn’t have been fine with that but something’s gotta change. It’s not always on the coaches for these losses. It’s clearly on the players and they need to mix it up. Us as fans just wanna see the team play their hardest every night! Even if that is all roll players as long as we see heart and grit and hard fought WINS that’s what matters. Change it up.
lastly, there's no argument that fox has all the talent in the world, but I will take a scrub who plays his ass off over someone who has mentally checked out
I think the Kings could show more emotions, more grit. The guys seem pretty nice. We need to be tougher and rougher. Less complaining on the court. It's bad for and shows weakness.
oh lastly lastly it does matter what Fox thinks and says he needs to understand that it absolutely matters. it's supposed to be his team. maybe he just doesn't feel that or realize that
Man I hate to be I told You so but I have the receipt. I thought the Kings should have had a wait and see approach in regards go Mike Brown. Its impossible not to like Mike Brown. But losing 6 times to New Orleans was very telling last year. Your going to have some players start to develop some doubts when you lose 6 times to one team including playin without their superstar best player. Who on the Kings is playing better then they did last season? What player Is Mike Brown bringing the best out of? Murray is getting close to becoming Chris Duarte. I saw this Guy make an all rookie team then go 8 or 9 games in a row the following season without making a shot and he's still never recovered. I wouldn't at all be surprised if I wake up tomorrow and Mike Brown is fired. Sabonis actually got two coaches fired at Indiana while he was there and his body language is very telling. It's unfortunate but the writing is all over the wall in regard to Mike Brown. Either Fox is traded or Brown is gone. GUARANTEE one of them happens
Houston fan here. FVV, Reed 3frps top 2 protected is my offer. I love Fox but his value is dropping, not a leader of men, 3frps and a good FVV who is a steady vet plus real upside in Reed Sheppard, is a good offer
But honestly I’m not giving anyone else to that package. He’s a great player and would fit nicely with Htown but he’s not a superstar, he’s not Booker, Anthony Edwards level and these guys will be available soon. Fox isn’t even at D Mitchell’s level tbh, not yet. You don’t sell the farm.
Complete comedy Monte chose Fox over Halliburton. Hali cried because he was so hurt and wanted to be here. Fox has his boyfriend rich Paul talking to the front office because he wants to leave. And yes Fox is petty and has already quit on the team.
pretty sure sabonis deal only happens for haliburton, not fox. Pacers weren’t stupid. haliburton salary so much lower and look at what we are dealing with now.
No body is buying high for fox. I am not a kings fan nor a casual fan of the kings. Fox is not looked at as a player who’ll turn a team’s fortune around.
Because he’s the only one on this team that gives 100% each night and the most consistent . Sabonis is the perfect 1B player as well , and if we do get a solid rising star or a solid lottery pick, Sabonis always makes players better around him
@@1takefades but he is one of the worst defensive anchors at the centre positions in the league: he offers no rim protection!! What’s the point of having a good offence when the defence is atrocious , and he is partially to blame for it. He isn’t a 1b player. Turner and Halliburton have now been to the conference finals. The kings have not made it out of the first round in decades. They are not even in a playoff seeding position?
@mrawesome7175 Jokic is a bad defender as well, but Nuggets have length at other positions which doesn't require Jokic to play defense. This is what Kings need to do and what they're lacking.
@@1takefadesif you honestly think Sabonis is a 1b you’re insane. Yes he’s good, yes he’s consistent but he’s at best a 3rd option on a legit championship contending team. Not even close to a 1b. He’s a 1b on a complete trash squad like your current kings
You gotta get rid of Fox and build the team around Mike Brown. It’s the only way. Mike Brown is the team’s MVP. Without him the Kings would have no wins
there is no fair deal probably. A “fair” deal would include a young upcoming star like Amen but he’s untouchable so realistically FVV,Whitmore, Reed and picks?
I’m a Lakers fan but this popped up on my feed so I decided to watch .. Matt does a great job hosting Get back on track, and see you in the playoffs sactown
Blow it up. See if Toronto will take rozen back for brown. See if San Antonio or Houston will take fox for Vasel and Johnson or Smith and easin with picks. See if someone will get us 2 to 4 first rounders for Domas. Showcase monk and Keegan until the deadline n see what you can get for them either at the deadline or draft night.
If they could get Tari Eason and Jabari Smith and picks they should absolutely do it. Those two players are on rookie scale contracts too and clearly ascending
You guys are too focus on the 4pt play. FOX SABOTAGE this game starting in the 3rd quarter when he demand for the ball and change the tempo to a very slow pace with poor defense. That really screwed up the offense and they are setting the defense when they get in to half court. Thats sparked the Pistons run.
This part. He changed the WHOLE tempo by being a ball hog, we lost movement. Fox is a start caliber player but he lacks humility and leadership qualities. Terrible communicator and I think it messes with moral. But coach Brown also made some terrible decisions this game as well in my opinion…
Mavs fan here just doing some general NBA team checkups. From the SAC fans, what’s the offer from Houston or SAS that you think the kings say yes to for fox?
What really sucks is they’ve had success since the Domas trade but in hindsight the idea that they didn’t even try to let Halliburton and Fox build was dumb. Also, trading for Domas, an undersized big when the kings have always needed defense and specifically rim protection is wild. I was a trade Fox over Hali guy and I’ll forever wonder “what if”
First half ball was moving. Team was playing well. Playing as a team without Fox making points (1 point) in first half. Fox played the second half as if he was the only player on the floor. Fox stopped the ball movement 2nd half. Hogged the ball. Other players were made useless. How's that make his teammates feel? Second half Fox got possession of the ball & took no-pass shot after no-pass shot. This loss on the head of the snake. He has no care how his words come across. He needs to hire a PR person cause he's a fail on communicating. Malik should have gone. Even Detroit would have been better. And they would have paid him.
The easy way out for Mike Brown is getting fired n getting his extension pay on vacation. Make Mike coach out his extension while we blow up the team n if Mike wants out then have him negotiate his contract out
Mike Brown fired? What a ridiculous and silly franchise the Kings are! Pitiful! Only hope is that a new owner comes on the scene and replaces the current clown. Brown, the coach who brought b them their only playoff team in 20 years, fired?????? Should have just shopped Fox.
It's Mike Brown. He has never won a championship so tell me what offense championship system is he going to run. That's what's wrong with a lot of NBA players. They go to teams with coaches that never have won a championship and then on top of that he isn't known to be a Phil Jackson. He's just a regular assistant coach. There's nobody who's running a superior triangle offense and there's nobody who's running a championship offense. Most of these coaches in the NBA they just suck. It's the coaches not the players
Sometimes, things just don't go your way. The least I could do is like this video. - from Nick's Racoon Squad p.s. my Mavs prolly might have a free fall too after Luka injury, get well soon Luka
Couldn’t agree more were taking on Fox personality. The way Players defer to him on this team is crazy and what happens to the pick and roll offence that was working in the beginning
I agree fox worth a lot of critics this year. But he isnt the main problem. We in general need an extra player to stepup every night but with sabonis out we needed two. And what we got? Lyles did but none of guys we were hoping. We added dd to stop 4q bleeding and became worst clutch team.. What is the point to have him then? Monte must do something, not only us fans but also players needs to get that hope. If we gonna continue this suffer for next 2 months or even till the end of season players will be broken to level when even jokic wouldnt recover them. Either trade for two decent wings, either trade fox for reed and picks. Or fire coach. To be honest if brown is such a good coach (at least he is paid like such) he must find a way to force fix give that 100%, or how not to loose 5 in a row at home. Look at magic and how they play without 3 key players. I am starting to think maybe brown thinks too good about himself.
You notice that when one of the guys arnt doing well then have a great game they loose and we can’t really celebrate them because they fing loose but Trey made a lil come back.
I'd love to buy tickets to have my heart ripped out of my chest and see the kings lose in person! In fact I don't even wanna get the tickets at the best price I want to over pay for the tickets too charge me a band for nosebleeds lmao
Mike Brown was UNANIMOUS coach of the year last year .... now he's a bum and THE problem? 😂 He's a good coach... fire him in the offseason if that's what you plan to do. This is a chicken with its head cut-off type of franchise. Why not fire the GM, McNair?
Simple solution for the Kings, with Fox….make him come of the bench, tactical substitution. Let some other players get more playing time to be immersed, develop and get confident in competing.
Sabonis is not a 1 or 2 for a championship team, get real. That is why there is no “retooling” if Fox is traded or leaves. Fox is the prototypical guard of the modern era and is the only player on this team capable of being a 1 or 2 on a champion contender. In his 8th year in the league, he is still improving and evolving his game. There is no backcourt in the NBA that he couldn’t slot into seamlessly. The overall talent level of this team isn’t as strong as every single Kings analyst likes to boast when it comes to the top teams in the West. Management needs to find ways to not only improve the roster with players that make sense but also complete the roster so it resembles a modern NBA team before Fox’s contract is up. If management decides to move Fox, it will be time to start over again. After that, fans get to watch the Kings draft another star only to ruin their career and fail to build a sustainable winning team for many years to come.
Fox isn’t capable of being a #1 on a consistent playoff team let alone a championship team are you smoking crack? He’s maybe a 2 at best. He has no voice, no leadership and he doesn’t elevate ANYONE. And spoiler alert it’s clear as day he wants out so quit worrying about him
@ This organization has failed to build a competent team around Fox for 8 years, so I don’t blame Fox if he wanted to get the hell out of here TODAY! You have NO fking idea what you’re talking about when it comes to Fox’s leadership. Are you mic’ed up with him every day for games and practices? Would the coach call him the leader of this team if he wasn’t? Stop spewing crap you TOLD by ignorant analysts and use your brain. Kings don’t make the playoffs 2 years ago without Fox, so to say he doesn’t elevate anyone is incorrect. Fact is, there has been NO team to elevate for 8 years because Fox has never had a legitimate roster to work with EVER!
@ How do you know Fox isn’t a leader or has no voice? Are you mic’ed up with him for practices and games? You just like spewing stuff you’ve been TOLD by ignorant fans or analysts. If Fox wanted out, there would be a trade request smart guy. Without Fox, this team doesn’t make the playoffs 2 years ago, so he can ELEVATE other players just fine.
But if a simple point of "don't give a three point" is not getting across it's safe to say he has lost the locker room. Best way to proceed is Trade fox for picks & young talents and also fire mike brown for fresh start. If only one of fox and brown leaves then it will be blame game back and forth every time we lose or win, better to start fresh.
No way fox is going to stay... we need to sell high before his value plummets
“It does not matter”
His value isn't going to plummets he's only 27 years old. Demar is the one who value will plummet he's old, he's 35+ years old.
@@Sammy-f7lhis value is gonna plummet by being an expiring star ready to leave
Not great...@@regundam6630
Fox is not Kings in Feb. Mark this down.
Fox has quit on the team, we can all see it
And Monte McNair (with Vivek Ranadive's sleight of hand) handed Mike Brown the pink slip.
Fox: “It doesn’t matter what I say to the media “,,,,, REALLY? It’s to the FANS brah, YOUR FANS!!!!!
I never thought Fox was a leader nor has he ever demonstrated that killer instinct ever...I would not build a franchise around him at all. He doeant have a leadership/lions mentality. He never had that dog in him
Kings front office doesn’t have that dawg mentality
It does kind of feel like Mike lost the locker room. I just don’t know how that happened. This feels like the team gave up on him before even trying
It happen because the players are soft. The culture is soft. doesnt matter what coach they have, no coach will make them better when they literally dont lock in and have terrible IQ and execution.
Worst loss of the year so far
And there have been plenty of bad ones
Seriously I feel like I keep saying that after each one, I wonder what’s going to happen next.
Until tomorrow lol
We just fired mike brown. Im done
Fox doesn’t want to be here, so let him go. I’m so over his nonchalant attitude.
Damn man 2 years ago we were on top of the world all this drama feels strange but moves need to be made
Dude I’ve been following so closely all off season this is the weirdest feeling watching every game and it’s just falling apart I thought we were on the come up
Fucked yo by letting Barnes go. Game you 15+ points with above average defense.
On top of what world yall wasn't humble u kept lighting beams after regular season wins just to go home early in playoffs
I have already vented elsewhere.... I'm giving Trey day his flowers on this one! Hes the epitome of Sacramento, underdog, has fight, isn't full of himself. Was so happy to see him look like himself tonight
I agree, specially in this game. Players more at fault. No bball IQ, no killer instinct, no drive. Just a bunch of discombobulated, lackadaisical, bums.
@@obryn Sacramento Kings: the New York Jets of the NBA, all roar, no bite, and snakebitten 1951.
We all know the moment rich paul became Fox’s agent the writing was on the wall. Fox’s attitude changed and the way clutch business model is “push your talent to bigger markets” or go play with other clutch promotion players, strangle hold the team and control player operations. You need to trade fox (sell high)
Brown just got fired 😳
Every move Monty McNair has made since Terrence Davis left the roster and since that playoff game seven has been extremely bad
Looked like fox fouled Ivey on pourpose
I thought there was no way even these Kings lose a 10 point lead with under 3 to play against the pistons... I actually laughed out loud in disgust at the gym when I saw the final score
I hate to say this but I’m with you. This shit sucks bro.
At first I thought Brown made the decision to not foul which was dumb, Ellis should of fouled right away. Then I learn the team didn't listen
We should have traded Keegan Murray. Now let's what we can do with to many players to be traded: Huerter, Lyles, Murray, DeRozen and maybe Fox.
It's a rebuild time...and we have a really blur perspectives.
This is going to sound like the dumbest take on Fox I have given all year, but that last play, it looked like he did that on purpose, I know that sounds crazy, but watching that play back, it looked like intentional sabotage, I know that sounds insane, that is just the way it looked watching the replay over and over
You can be a terrible player on a Kings Roster and get mad love from the fans, but the one thing you can not do is publicly air you "dirty laundry" about your team in a town where loyalty is by far the Kings fans greatest trait...
Fair or unfair, It just appears not only has Fox turned "Heel" butt he has reached a point where he absolutely can not hide his "checked out" vibe
There is no one trade or piece that fixes this, when one player checks out, it becomes contagious and things can get even worse then they are now
I dont see an out now, I see another 10-15 years of a small town market that just couldnt ever reach it's potential until the team is eventually sold off...
In the 30 + years I been watching the Kings, I dont think I have ever seen this many Kings players at the podium who "outwardly" appear to show just how little they care about what their fans think...
Agreed, fair point!
I agree actually
Being terrible and / or poorly coached is one thing
Looking like you just don't care is another
You don’t sound insane at all. A. Wiggins did the exact same thing in a different way in the closing seconds of the lakers warriors game.
Feel the same way. Almost like he wants to keep losing so he has an excuse to leave.
I legit think the same thing
Even when we were up 19 I just had a feeling….
Same
If you don't know that a 20 pt lead isn't enough, you don't know Kings basketball!
should’ve bet that feeling then, kings were -12500 live pistons were +10000. meaning you’d have to bet 12k to make $100 off the kings while $100 wins you 10k off the pistons……
@@bbbbbbbb1942😅😅😅😅😅😅 haha, We need my man Grant back
I think Fox is trying to get rid of Mike brown and because it isn’t working Fox is realizing Vivek is turning on Fox and Fox is mad and having a meltdown
Mike Brown is gone so I guess it worked ?
@ yep it did work ! I knew it was Fox behind it all
Fox is NOT a superstar! Superstars are leaders, he is not! He is a really good player with a big ego!
As a Kings fan since 2000 idk wtf is happening this year to us… we have so much talent being wasted. Is it time to blow it up and rebuild? Keegan is a fail and Huerter should’ve been gone for 2 years now. It’s all bad right now
Do you really feel like Keegan is fail/bust?
Same way I feel
Kings needed to get bigger and better on defense .... signed DeMar. 😉
I was saying trade Fox this past summer and everyone was calling me a fool.
I like Fox but you can’t win a championship with him as your leader.
GSW has curry that leads by example and they have Green as their vocal leader and Iggy back then. Kings have Fox and that's it. I see Domas being vocal from time to time but not consistently.
Monk is arguably the Green of Kings
I love this duo!!
Kings dodge a major bullet when Fox didnt sign that extension
Yup, now they get to lose him for nothing😅
@gamechanger114 what has he done? Shit
@@oohhsedagod6183and what have the kings done with out fox… nun😂
Great point!
Leaders take ownership of when they fail, didn't happen, not a leader!
De’Aaron is MORE than welcome to join his business partner in the Bay! I’m sure they’d be willing to move 4 or 5 players to make the $$$ make sense. I’ve been watching him since he joined the Kings, and I love him! 💜➡️💙💛 😏😁✌🏽
It’s so crazy to me we’ve gotten to this point… but none of us kings fans are surprised. If Fox doesn’t wanna be here, honestly I’m fine with that. A month ago I wouldn’t have been fine with that but something’s gotta change. It’s not always on the coaches for these losses. It’s clearly on the players and they need to mix it up. Us as fans just wanna see the team play their hardest every night! Even if that is all roll players as long as we see heart and grit and hard fought WINS that’s what matters. Change it up.
You guys can have Halighost back. He checked out earlier in the night
Have an opportunity for an okc rebuild now. Get those picks
lastly, there's no argument that fox has all the talent in the world, but I will take a scrub who plays his ass off over someone who has mentally checked out
Well Matt you called it ! Mike is fired
holy shit
11:05 Matt's definitely not joking 😂
I was dying
I think the Kings could show more emotions, more grit. The guys seem pretty nice. We need to be tougher and rougher. Less complaining on the court. It's bad for and shows weakness.
I think fox is losing control over the team and Vivek is going to tell brown he is the new leader of the organization and tell fox to get lost
You can't just replace a player of De'aaron Fox level. It will be hard to find another.
@ agreed
Grant Napear went in on fox in his yt channel
He needs to be our announcer again. They did him dirty
@ I agree .he’s as honest as they come .tired of Kayte
Fox vs brown is the battle happening in who Vivek chooses to stay . Fox is losing and starting to pout .
Well, Mike Brown got fired but they need to trade Fox ...
@ maybe but the team was doomed with brown because he was dumb enough to think winning is achieved by shooting bad threes
Good cast fellas.
oh lastly lastly it does matter what Fox thinks and says he needs to understand that it absolutely matters. it's supposed to be his team. maybe he just doesn't feel that or realize that
Like I said Fox is a wannabe Kobe. Who only plays Hero Ball.
Man I hate to be I told You so but I have the receipt. I thought the Kings should have had a wait and see approach in regards go Mike Brown.
Its impossible not to like Mike Brown. But losing 6 times to New Orleans was very telling last year. Your going to have some players start to develop some doubts when you lose 6 times to one team including playin without their superstar best player.
Who on the Kings is playing better then they did last season? What player Is Mike Brown bringing the best out of?
Murray is getting close to becoming Chris Duarte. I saw this Guy make an all rookie team then go 8 or 9 games in a row the following season without making a shot and he's still never recovered.
I wouldn't at all be surprised if I wake up tomorrow and Mike Brown is fired. Sabonis actually got two coaches fired at Indiana while he was there and his body language is very telling.
It's unfortunate but the writing is all over the wall in regard to Mike Brown. Either Fox is traded or Brown is gone. GUARANTEE one of them happens
Houston fan here. FVV, Reed 3frps top 2 protected is my offer. I love Fox but his value is dropping, not a leader of men, 3frps and a good FVV who is a steady vet plus real upside in Reed Sheppard, is a good offer
The Kings might want Cam Whitmore added to the package.
But honestly I’m not giving anyone else to that package. He’s a great player and would fit nicely with Htown but he’s not a superstar, he’s not Booker, Anthony Edwards level and these guys will be available soon. Fox isn’t even at D Mitchell’s level tbh, not yet. You don’t sell the farm.
@@OptionsAnonymous we need wings, not a rookie guard
FVV, Smith and 3 firsts and I am in for sure.
@ that hurts but I would do it only because we can’t pay Jabari what he will deserve in 2 years
Fox has lost me as a fan
It’s the weirdest feeling watching this team all off season being excited for the season just to watch them fall apart completely
I HOPE MIKE BROWN DOESN'T GET FIRED🤞
You’ve go to be kidding me
@Kingsplay-by-play I'm kidding.....Now, if y'all can manage to send him to San Antonio, we need him here.
Trade Fox. Get some good pieces for him. Rebuild for the future.
MOST of these last 5 games were handed to the kings and they gave them away AGAIN. I feel sick. This was supposed to de different 😢
I'm from Slovenia, somewhere who knows in Europe and even I feel your pain, some restructuring should be done.. just ask the pistons 😅
Kings fans... Go watch Terrence Davis Kings Highlights and then think about what happened to this team. He is the Spark Plug to Light The Beam
Complete comedy Monte chose Fox over Halliburton. Hali cried because he was so hurt and wanted to be here. Fox has his boyfriend rich Paul talking to the front office because he wants to leave. And yes Fox is petty and has already quit on the team.
pretty sure sabonis deal only happens for haliburton, not fox. Pacers weren’t stupid. haliburton salary so much lower and look at what we are dealing with now.
Not a King's fan but I always argued ... keep Haliburton over Fox. Haliburton just a much better playmaker and he liked Sac.
No body is buying high for fox. I am not a kings fan nor a casual fan of the kings. Fox is not looked at as a player who’ll turn a team’s fortune around.
I hope they don't think the answer is to fire Mike Brown.
Welp…😂
Mike Brown was UNANIMOUS coach of the year last year .... now he's a bum and THE problem? 😂 Yes they fired him.
I'm hoping they trade fox get a bunch of cash and picks and let Domantas and Demar lead.
Why is Sabonis untouchable for kings fans??
Because he’s the only one on this team that gives 100% each night and the most consistent . Sabonis is the perfect 1B player as well , and if we do get a solid rising star or a solid lottery pick, Sabonis always makes players better around him
You'll get kicked out of G1C if you talk bad about Sabonis. He's off limits.
@@1takefades but he is one of the worst defensive anchors at the centre positions in the league: he offers no rim protection!! What’s the point of having a good offence when the defence is atrocious , and he is partially to blame for it. He isn’t a 1b player. Turner and Halliburton have now been to the conference finals. The kings have not made it out of the first round in decades. They are not even in a playoff seeding position?
@mrawesome7175 Jokic is a bad defender as well, but Nuggets have length at other positions which doesn't require Jokic to play defense. This is what Kings need to do and what they're lacking.
@@1takefadesif you honestly think Sabonis is a 1b you’re insane. Yes he’s good, yes he’s consistent but he’s at best a 3rd option on a legit championship contending team. Not even close to a 1b. He’s a 1b on a complete trash squad like your current kings
You gotta get rid of Fox and build the team around Mike Brown. It’s the only way. Mike Brown is the team’s MVP. Without him the Kings would have no wins
Rockets fan here serious question what yall want for fox? What’s a fair deal from yall perspective
there is no fair deal probably. A “fair” deal would include a young upcoming star like Amen but he’s untouchable so realistically FVV,Whitmore, Reed and picks?
How good does Mike Mallone look now!
As a Pistons fan I seen the signs of this Kings loss happening in 4k. Was thrilled to be on the other side
I’m a Lakers fan but this popped up on my feed so I decided to watch .. Matt does a great job hosting
Get back on track, and see you in the playoffs sactown
Blow it up. See if Toronto will take rozen back for brown. See if San Antonio or Houston will take fox for Vasel and Johnson or Smith and easin with picks. See if someone will get us 2 to 4 first rounders for Domas. Showcase monk and Keegan until the deadline n see what you can get for them either at the deadline or draft night.
If they could get Tari Eason and Jabari Smith and picks they should absolutely do it. Those two players are on rookie scale contracts too and clearly ascending
You guys are too focus on the 4pt play. FOX SABOTAGE this game starting in the 3rd quarter when he demand for the ball and change the tempo to a very slow pace with poor defense. That really screwed up the offense and they are setting the defense when they get in to half court. Thats sparked the Pistons run.
This part. He changed the WHOLE tempo by being a ball hog, we lost movement. Fox is a start caliber player but he lacks humility and leadership qualities. Terrible communicator and I think it messes with moral. But coach Brown also made some terrible decisions this game as well in my opinion…
Mavs fan here just doing some general NBA team checkups. From the SAC fans, what’s the offer from Houston or SAS that you think the kings say yes to for fox?
These players get paid 50+ mil a year to play BASKETBALL and still wanna act like Divas 🤦♂️.
54:23 - De'Aaron's evasive answer making it worse
He's always like this after a loss. Really, he shldn't be out there after a loss. His non-comments do make u :/
I just like to lame organization they are they fired Mike brown that owner a f joke fr
Swap Mike Brown to Warriors and Kings get Steve Kerr. That will be amazing for us Warriors fans.
Both guys are playing small ball .... and having bad seasons. Sabonis at center then you need a forward who can help rebound and defend .....
😂 Brenden reminding Matt to take a deep breath
What really sucks is they’ve had success since the Domas trade but in hindsight the idea that they didn’t even try to let Halliburton and Fox build was dumb. Also, trading for Domas, an undersized big when the kings have always needed defense and specifically rim protection is wild. I was a trade Fox over Hali guy and I’ll forever wonder “what if”
First half ball was moving. Team was playing well. Playing as a team without Fox making points (1 point) in first half.
Fox played the second half as if he was the only player on the floor. Fox stopped the ball movement 2nd half. Hogged the ball. Other players were made useless. How's that make his teammates feel? Second half Fox got possession of the ball & took no-pass shot after no-pass shot. This loss on the head of the snake. He has no care how his words come across. He needs to hire a PR person cause he's a fail on communicating.
Malik should have gone. Even Detroit would have been better. And they would have paid him.
You got that right 👏🏼 this started before the 4th with Fox and it happens often.
That was horrific. As a kings fan I'm absolutely pissed. Time to go in a different direction cause this one isn't working
Kings never are actually ahead they just have minor advantages
The easy way out for Mike Brown is getting fired n getting his extension pay on vacation. Make Mike coach out his extension while we blow up the team n if Mike wants out then have him negotiate his contract out
I think fox just lost his spot as Viveks favorite in Sacramento. He was outplayed by coach brown for top spot to Vivek.
Fox is going to Houston. The Kings need to get Amen back and leverage the crap out of San Antonio to get him.
AMEN IS UNTOUCHABLE
Mike Brown fired? What a ridiculous and silly franchise the Kings are! Pitiful! Only hope is that a new owner comes on the scene and replaces the current clown. Brown, the coach who brought b them their only playoff team in 20 years, fired?????? Should have just shopped Fox.
It's Mike Brown. He has never won a championship so tell me what offense championship system is he going to run. That's what's wrong with a lot of NBA players. They go to teams with coaches that never have won a championship and then on top of that he isn't known to be a Phil Jackson. He's just a regular assistant coach. There's nobody who's running a superior triangle offense and there's nobody who's running a championship offense. Most of these coaches in the NBA they just suck. It's the coaches not the players
Sometimes, things just don't go your way. The least I could do is like this video.
- from Nick's Racoon Squad
p.s. my Mavs prolly might have a free fall too after Luka injury, get well soon Luka
He is right, it does not matter what he says. He still gets paid over $420K per game, win or lose. This tiny team gets tinier every game.
Fox = Devondre Campbell...both guys quit on their teams
Couldn’t agree more were taking on Fox personality. The way Players defer to him on this team is crazy and what happens to the pick and roll offence that was working in the beginning
What does high side mean ? Why did he say it that way ?
#CaptureTheFlagg
Watching this while brown ees dropped is wild
I agree fox worth a lot of critics this year. But he isnt the main problem. We in general need an extra player to stepup every night but with sabonis out we needed two. And what we got? Lyles did but none of guys we were hoping. We added dd to stop 4q bleeding and became worst clutch team.. What is the point to have him then?
Monte must do something, not only us fans but also players needs to get that hope. If we gonna continue this suffer for next 2 months or even till the end of season players will be broken to level when even jokic wouldnt recover them.
Either trade for two decent wings, either trade fox for reed and picks.
Or fire coach. To be honest if brown is such a good coach (at least he is paid like such) he must find a way to force fix give that 100%, or how not to loose 5 in a row at home.
Look at magic and how they play without 3 key players. I am starting to think maybe brown thinks too good about himself.
The Scott Adams dude in the comments. Chill a bit.
It's Sabonis burner account 😂
@ lol
You notice that when one of the guys arnt doing well then have a great game they loose and we can’t really celebrate them because they fing loose but Trey made a lil come back.
Let's goooooooo Lakers
Lyles was on a Pistons revenge trip
I'd love to buy tickets to have my heart ripped out of my chest and see the kings lose in person! In fact I don't even wanna get the tickets at the best price I want to over pay for the tickets too charge me a band for nosebleeds lmao
Yo the Kings fans worried about Fox leaving 😂 they ain’t any good with him either
Let Fox join LBJ, Kings get key players from Lakers!
The only think I don't like about Brown is his 3 & D philosophy
is, they are not exactly built for it
, and he needs to work with what they do have
Wait wait wait... I'm not a Kings fan but are people blaming Mike Brown for the loss??? 😂😂😂
Mike Brown was UNANIMOUS coach of the year last year .... now he's a bum and THE problem? 😂 He's a good coach... fire him in the offseason if that's what you plan to do. This is a chicken with its head cut-off type of franchise. Why not fire the GM, McNair?
Simple solution for the Kings, with Fox….make him come of the bench, tactical substitution. Let some other players get more playing time to be immersed, develop and get confident in competing.
TRADE FOX NOW!!!!!
DO IT !!!!
DONE WITH HIM !!!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
If the Kings go on a 7 game win streak right now we're talking championship, nobody can beat us, Fox is All NBA 1st team, give him 345 mill.
And the dumpster fire can commence. I’ve been trying to warn of this team having an extremely low ceiling
48:03 - 48:36 - 48:59 - "gotta go back and watch the tape".
Coach Brown throwing 🦊 all the way under the bus.
Sabonis is not a 1 or 2 for a championship team, get real. That is why there is no “retooling” if Fox is traded or leaves. Fox is the prototypical guard of the modern era and is the only player on this team capable of being a 1 or 2 on a champion contender. In his 8th year in the league, he is still improving and evolving his game. There is no backcourt in the NBA that he couldn’t slot into seamlessly. The overall talent level of this team isn’t as strong as every single Kings analyst likes to boast when it comes to the top teams in the West. Management needs to find ways to not only improve the roster with players that make sense but also complete the roster so it resembles a modern NBA team before Fox’s contract is up. If management decides to move Fox, it will be time to start over again. After that, fans get to watch the Kings draft another star only to ruin their career and fail to build a sustainable winning team for many years to come.
Fox isn’t capable of being a #1 on a consistent playoff team let alone a championship team are you smoking crack? He’s maybe a 2 at best. He has no voice, no leadership and he doesn’t elevate ANYONE. And spoiler alert it’s clear as day he wants out so quit worrying about him
@ This organization has failed to build a competent team around Fox for 8 years, so I don’t blame Fox if he wanted to get the hell out of here TODAY! You have NO fking idea what you’re talking about when it comes to Fox’s leadership. Are you mic’ed up with him every day for games and practices? Would the coach call him the leader of this team if he wasn’t? Stop spewing crap you TOLD by ignorant analysts and use your brain. Kings don’t make the playoffs 2 years ago without Fox, so to say he doesn’t elevate anyone is incorrect. Fact is, there has been NO team to elevate for 8 years because Fox has never had a legitimate roster to work with EVER!
@ How do you know Fox isn’t a leader or has no voice? Are you mic’ed up with him for practices and games? You just like spewing stuff you’ve been TOLD by ignorant fans or analysts. If Fox wanted out, there would be a trade request smart guy. Without Fox, this team doesn’t make the playoffs 2 years ago, so he can ELEVATE other players just fine.
Fox has to go. He’s not playing to win
But if a simple point of "don't give a three point" is not getting across it's safe to say he has lost the locker room. Best way to proceed is Trade fox for picks & young talents and also fire mike brown for fresh start. If only one of fox and brown leaves then it will be blame game back and forth every time we lose or win, better to start fresh.