For me I think what says grim dark the most is the grey knights dreadnought that just looks like an angry space mating being carried in a baby carrier strapped to the chest of his robotic and very stiff robot papa. Not only this silliness but the pose is so so so bad. The pose the model ends up with is very similar to when a child wants "uppies" and waits with his arms out and a little up as they await being picked up by their adult. Obviously I'm not even being sarcastic about that grey knight model being the most quintessential grim dark thing in the 40k universe. Anyone who would even suggest I'm not being genuine is a got dang turducken... Thass a duck inside of a chicken inside of a turkey and then cooked.
As someone that only knows warhammer because my neighbor 3D prints models, this is true. I’ve played the Space Marines 3rd person shooter and a few minutes of total war: warhammer, so I know a bit, but this is easy for a newcomer to digest
_The Master was holding out their hand to him. and then the hand formed... a thumbs up._ "Good job on the I6 Report. I am actually going to need that 9-5 on my desk in 3 cycles, not 5." *OH BLESSED DAY!*
The Humans in 30 and 40k are like ants very useful but, they get trodden on all the time but piss enough of of them off and they can have quite a bite too.
Hey I just wanted to say Jesus loves you and you are valuable made in Gods image And he loved you so much that he came down as a human to die for your sins Jesus loves you John 3;16 say for God so loved the world he gave his only son so whoever believe in him will not perish but have eternal meaning in heaven" he is salvation from sin and hell we've all sinned and deserve hell but Jesus paid the price for our sin with his blood so though true faith in him we will be saved we canot live a Good life to get to heaven nor by any good thing we do solely by true faith in Jesus are we saved true faith mean following Jesus and his commands and truly living for him by faith in him Prayer for giving your life to Christ Lord I recognise I am a sinner In need of the Savoir And I trust in the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ Who is God come to died for me I wish to follow you from this Day forward I want to turn form every sinful way and live for you and I ask for your help to do so in Jesus name amen Just remember The prayer doesn't save you but true faith in Jesus does the prayer is a show of faith to God Asking to be saved and accepting Jesus as lord❤❤
It is worth nothing to mention that the lower decks of an average human warship are a mirocosm, with little to no interference from the upper decks. The black legion (hopefully one day to be) omnibus tells us about tribes of men doing nothing useful to the ship, simply existing, half forgotten, worshipping the ship's machine spirit and serving as a recruitment pool for the traitor astartes, who periodically go down there to hunt a daemon or two, so the wild land down under won't become too wild. The lowest of the lower decks of the Vengeful Spirit are described as nigtmarish half-organic, half-daemonic hellscape, with warp-originated "life" forming walls of flesh, stalactites of human teeth, and so on. For the young of such tribes, their astartes masters might be a legend, witnessed only by their forefathers or some distant tribe from the other end of their "world", and their lifestyle might be close to that of their prehistorical, hunter-gatherer ancestors from Earth. Except for the ecosystem surrounding them taking energy not from the Sun, but from the residual radiation emanating from the poorly shielded ships' reactor, for the meat they hunt being warp-touched critters, and for the berries they pick up being half-daemonic in nature.
@@SorchaSublime The Rogue Trader game sort of addresses it. As you do have to visit your ship's lower decks to settle some disputes. Though what I think Rogue Trader really nails is how oppressive and hierarchical Imperial society is. Like not just in some dim abstract way. Your character gets worshiped as though they were second to the Emperor themselves while everybody else gets treated like poop they wouldn't pee on to put out a fire. And there's pretty much no other reason for it than because you have a tenuous bloodline connection to the last Rogue Trader who adopted you in the first place. Like it's completely blind dumb luck that you get this special aristocratic treatment.
Idk you read any guardsman novels for 40k but you'd like them if that's the case. I like them better than the novels where space marines are the main characters because the guard are real people with actual problems and not Mary Sue problems.
You have to take into account the chances of being chosen to undergo the process of becoming an Astartes, surviving the process and initiations to become a full Battle brother, realising theres a ratio of 1 Astartes for every couple thousand planets and understanding that a handful of you and your brothers can take turn a battle and take a planet in a few days is going to give you a pretty deserved ego boost. Fuck humanity, we are the emperors chosen!
@@lexleonard7183 how are they going to get to the battle if there's no humans or servitors (since they count as human) manning the ship? How are they going to resupply if they don't manufacture their own ammo and gear? How are they going to even know there's battle to miss out on with no astrotelepaths handling comms? Again, that ego assumes tens of thousands or millions have already done the hard work. Without humanity, Astartes a naked gorillas. When they forgot that, they fell to chaos like any other underhiver.
This just makes me imagine that within a World Eater's ship is there's that one barely raging genocidal World Eater guy who's in his rare moment of clarity is like "Listen up fuckheads, if you use any these serfs that we picked up a while back as punching bags, I can guarantee you this ship is going to tumble into an exploding star and you are all going to end up like wet paper plates... Not very blood for the Blood God isn't it? So don't touch them!" Khorne is probably chilling with his feet up and be like: "Yeah that's true. I'll make that guy a Champion of Chaos."
“We can either have a Little blood & skulls now, or a Lot of blood & skulls later! Which sounds better?” “Oh… delayed gratification hurts my -tummy- nails. -Cookie- Khorny Monster wants to shed blood now… _Tick_ SKUULLLSSS!!!! OM NOM NOM!!!”
Bro being a serf/Thrall in a World Eater’s ship is not fun, the 40k Angron the Red Angel makes it clear that not only do the humans have to deal with Berzekers randomly killing them, but they might just randomly get grabbed by a daemon and fed to some machinery.
There was a part in the GG series where some chaos mercs were too bored not killing anyone, so the transport co-pilot was killed, pilot scalped mid-descent, then had his brain sucked out upon landing. Imagine being some serf and getting mutilated just because someone was bored.
You ever seen that Key and Peele skit where they’re lampooning LMFAO and it’s the “Party don’t stop cause it keeps on going” and they literally cannot escape the party? That’s an EC serf experience. “It’s been three centuries and the party’s still going.”
@@blank4227 Fulgrim, Path of Heaven, Angel Exterminatus, Lord of Excellence, all the novellas and short stories, Shroud of Night, Talon of Horus, Black Legion, the Fabius trilogy and I’m very excited for the Eidolon novel. You need writeups, I can provide.
One would think the Traitor Legions would show their mortal serfs greater (if grudging) respect considering what an absolute pain it is for the Traitors to recoup losses of such numbers as opposed to Loyalists who have the Imperium to draw upon. And this may very well be the case with some of the saner warlords.
Traitor legions often just enslave populations. Slaves are replaceable. Only servants with specialist or authoritative positions (overseers, technical specialists, savants, trusted guards etc) will be treated with more care because they aren’t nearly as replaceable.
It would make logical sense but the whole setting is supposed to be cartoonists grim and like the dream of a goth teenager so it wouldn't fit. Everything has to be bad. Wouldn't be 40k if it wasn't.
@@Cajaquarius Its more interesting for a setting to be consistent than just a giant meme you can’t even take a tiny bit seriously tbh Grimdark > grimderp
Well it looked like it was the Iron Warriors, and the Iron Warriors are disgusted by weakness, even if that weakness is in the form of people bowing before them as though they were gods. The iron Warriors probably saw that serf and what he was doing and saw him as garbage, so they treated him as such with no regard because he didn't deserve it in their eyes and he was in the way. They tend to treat you better if you show you have a backbone, my favorite fan made video essentially ended with a guardsman being spared but her commissar being killed, because the commissar was willing to kneel and pledge himself before the iron warriors, but she stood in defiance knowing the iron warrior not only could kill her but probably would, so the iron warrior killed the commissar for his weakness and spared her, offering her the opportunity to prove herself, as the planetary governor failed her, the imperium failed her, and even her commander failed her.
The death guard treats their crew better than imperial ship masters. Consult with the marines and ask them anything, they enjoy esoteric conversations.
Dantine cannot look away, even though he wants to. He feels sick again, as if his body has been scraped empty. He does not know what to say. He does not even know what to think. ‘I am a great horror to you,’ Vorx says. That is certainly true. ‘A long time ago,’ Vorx says, ‘I was a horror to myself. The universe is full of horror. You can resist it, and drive yourself into madness. Or you can accept it, and then begin to understand it. I would recommend the latter course, though I accept you must feel quite differently. For now.’ Dantine stares at the monster. For a moment, he is entirely lost for words.‘You... killed them all.’ ‘I did not kill you.’ ‘Why?’ ‘I do not know. Ha. Do you believe that?’ The monster muses. ‘I am a believer in fate. I recognise a conjunction when I see one. For what it is worth, that has kept me alive for longer than most, and I do not intend to turn an opportunity aside.’ ‘Why do you do it?’ Dantine can feel himself losing control. He could become angry, if he were not so worn out and nauseous. ‘You were a man once, were you not? You were a human?’ ‘I still am, of a kind.’ Vorx is not looking at him. ‘We are all on a spectrum,captain. You are at one end, I am at the other. We are still the same species.’ ‘You are mad.’ Vorx chuckles again. ‘I have lost count of how many times that insult has been aimed at me. By your kind, by my kind.’ He is still pacing, as if counting out steps.There are things, sluggish things, that seem to be living in his armour. ‘The accusation is only meaningful if you can give me some suitable account of sanity. I saw the way you lived on that world. I have seen the way Imperial citizens live on a hundred worlds. If you truly believe that this is a sane galaxy, and that we are the aberrations, then I pity you. But then, you have not seen all the alternatives yet. When you do, your mind may change.’
I've always found the glimpses into serf life amongst the traitors to be some of the most interesting elements of Black Library books, from the Death Guard to the Night Lords there are echoes of imperial life and servitude. The meaninglessness of life in the imperium begs the question of how much worse things could be, the horrors of traitor vessels are extreme, but no more than the cold heartless logic of imperial bureaucrats who direct trillions of lives into furnaces and toxic agriworlds where life expectancies are just as low. The difference being is the cruelty of the traitors seems more senseless and personal, it leaves us scratching our heads at the validity of such sporadic violence and cruelty by those who lack the infinite manpower possessed by the imperium.
@@dantewilliams2757 nah souls are like rain in the ocean in the warp. its literally called the sea of souls. you don't have sentience or awareness anymore. unless you are a psyker or eldar then your just fucked no matter who your serve.
Body. It seems likely there is no such thing as a soul in the Imperium. Psykers of great power can live on as bodiless minds as can magos by sticking their brains in steel bodies, but for the average person death is the end of the self. Oblivion, born into misery, return to oblivion.
@@Cajaquarius souls are very much a thing that all sentient (and perhaps non sentient) creatures have, this is not the same thing as the mind or self more like just life force. powerful psykers and eldar can have awareness of their soul after death but that just fucking sucks since you get absorbed by daemons like everyone else but your just aware of it and they know that so they may do something messed up to your soul thats not comparable or even analogues to any physical or mental torture you can receive while alive.
Meanwhile thousand sons to psykers: "my apprentice, you are not mere "witch", you are next step of what we can become, we'll grant you opportunity to shine like a star."
Im new to WH but i like its odd intricate method of power scaling. The idea that a mere serf can witness a CSM as a living god and bow in total revernce, only to be killed for nothing, gives you a sense of just how feeble characters are. There is nothing special about him, even the fact he isnt special at all. While simultaneously, this CSM can be cut down by a Solitare in a second, who would just do a jig and wander off, making the CSM, in all his might, allso seem plainly pathetic.
I think but for a moment traitors get to feel the insignificance of the masses when they face a custodes, because to a custodes a space marine is no more then a man would be to a space marine. It isn't even a fight, a custodes will cut down a space marine without a thought and without effort, and to the traitors that is probably horrifying, seeing something that doesn't care about you and that your best attempts to fight against will matter very little, and once it has killed you it will pay you no more regard.
Utter confusion at what might “actually” be going on, so you just keep your head down & follow your orders. But hey, at least it’s easier to remember names! Everyone is “Lord Alpharius”! :D
@@UGNAvalon Very few chaosbands still use "I am alpharius" joke, other alpha legionaries are pretty hateful to those who still use the shtick. Plus, they don't exactly lie to their serfs, why would they?
@@TheStalkeRuuuuuus1 To keep them guessing, of course! ;D In seriousness tho, it'd more likely be "deception by omission" & keeping intel on a "compartmentalized"/"need to know" basis. If by some miracle a serf gets captured or leaks info, nothing they say would be useful for any Imperials that might hear of it.
Nah, I consider Alpha Legion the clown legion. Even the authors that take them seriously barely respect them. In reality, most of them are probably not even "on mission," and frankly, nobody knows what that is anymore. The vast majority are either Chaos warbands at worst, or disparate pirate bands. At best, if we're being optimistic, they're an unaffiliated warrior sect like those warrior monks in feudal Japan, caring for little else beyond maintaining the force of arms to maintain autonomy. Their serfs, as everywhere else, are just another exploited underclass suffering various degrees of indignity. "You're not worthy of knowing the plan." Yes? And? How's that different from any other jobber without security clearances and paygrade?
@@ved2360 _"How's that different from any other jobber without security clearances and paygrade?"_ Lower odds of dying by getting fed to warp abominations, becoming a warp abomination, dying to a mood swing due to your master suffering some combination of space BPD, CPTSD and bipolar, or ending up as front-line cannon fodder (not because they value your life more, but because they just tend to not do front-line stuff as much).
Chaos lord: Now... slave, you shall serve... and serve you shall to me and me alone! Serf: O-Oh no... god emperor perserve m-my so-- Chaos Lord: But first... you must follow my law or suffer my wrath, 1: three healthy meals a day. 2: sleep at least 8 or more hours a day. 3: Brush your teeth every night. 4: No drinking while driveing. 5: Murder is bad. 6-- Serf: Uuuuh.... what?
Wow I would LOVE this to be a television series. Not a grand depiction of the Horus Heresy but rather a tiny perspective in the life of average people in this universe. Great video, thank you!
For imperial nobles marriages are usually arranged, often at the suggestion of the order famulous, a subgroup of the adepts sororitas. Lower class probably depends on the local culture.
I think we're maybe being a bit too conservative with our imagination here. For certain Chaos factions it's easy to picture what reality would be like for a serf; think of a Nurgle warband, its members simply become integrated into a living, giant and peristaltic organism serving their masters, similar as it is for Iron Warriors, where humans are nothing more than consumable parts for a greater mechanism. Followers of Tzeentch are a bit trickier to imagine; I think mutation would be extremely common among them and probably even useful, I don't see how a crew would be much recognizable as humans anymore, flapping, wiggling and thrilling as they go about their arcane and culty doings. Finally, serfs under Khornate and Slaaneshi masters would live in societies where their gods respective excesses are practiced and celebrated; on one hand everything gets done by feeling and in a stupor, I don't see fertility rate being an issue, while on the other things are done with extreme ruthlessness and violence, everything a constant battle for survival. I don't think life would continue very normally for serfs under Chaos, it simply doesn't have to. Something would... Seep in from the Warp, and change things at a fundamental level.
Khornate servants might actually have a life not so different from the underbelly of most imperial worlds tbh. Strict discipline (yes ironically Khornate are known for discipline), rules to follow, tribes and gangs following the strongest amongst them. Stepping out of line gets you killed. Being at the wrong place at the wrong time gets you killed. Being part of an outcast clan gets you killed. But otherwise you might live a relatively normal life
Yeah I agree. We already know that most chaos ships don't make use of gellar fields, and I'd imagine having even a single warp entity, whether it be aligned with one of the four Chaos Gods or not (a lot of people tend to forget that the warp is vast, not every entity is aligned, and there may even be more than just four "gods"), appear on a ship will change life in pretty drastic ways. I doubt the warp entity is going to just wander around aimlessly and mind it's own business. Furthermore human life is vastly different across the Imperium. There are entire worlds of people living lives similar in quality to our own, and entire worlds of people living lives even better than we do. We merely hear about the shitty ones most because that's what makes the setting interesting. The Imperium doesn't give two shits about how the leaders of said world run their world so long as they A) Pay the Tithe, B) Declare vassalhood to the Emperor. That being said, I can promise you life will instantly get worse for you upon a Chaos barge or, god forbid, a Chaos world (people seem to forget Chaos holds worlds as well).
@The_Haruspex this is not true most chaos ships still use Gellar fields or some form of warp protection. Daemons don't care about your allegiance and will still violently murderfuck your ship.
@@spacehitler4537 Throughout the later half of the Horus Heresy books, particularly the ones that cover the Shadow Crusade through Macragge, both the World Eaters and the Word Bearers ships travel around without gellar fields. The interior of their ships have become warp infested hell holes where daemons manifest and roam freely - the Word Bearers even have a line about how those who get killed by the daemons in the warp were simply usurped by something stronger than them as it's the "natural order of things". In the Visions of Heresy lorebook the daemon infestations were so bad that it prevented a group of Custodes from linking up with the Emperor when they teleported onto his ship during the Siege of Terra. There's no reason to think this would have changed for Chaos SM ships in time between the late stages of the Heresy and the 41st millenium.
@The_Haruspex word bearers and world eater ships are that other part of the "most.". You've also got to consider that both factions were working with considerably more strength at the time. Looking at the Alpha Legion, Iron Warriors, Night Lords, and many other minor warbands like the Red Corsairs don't share their suicidal philosophies. Chaos was also much more unified during that peak of its power. The other chaos faction I would bet don't bother with Gellar Fields are the Death Guard.
"A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in" refers to posterity. It means that you should build for the next generation, even if you will never enjoy the fruits of your labor.
It's just as possible that the IW merely slapped the guy out of the way but he died easilly because he's frail and got slapped by an IW. The was no intention specified so I think it's almost just as dark that the space marine just had zero regard either way and his death was simply inopportune.
Servitor: oh my god, he's looking at ME! I must be important! Chaos Marine: what an unfortunate-looking specimen of humanity. Maybe the worst I've ever seen. Can we really not do better than this?
I wonder about the motivations of traitor Astartes; If you are a mule, unable to procreate, what is your legacy? What do you get out of life if you cannot pass down your ill gotten gains? It seems like an interesting subject to me.
Honestly, for the most part I would say their goals are just extremely selfish? One might aim to earn a legacy that outlives them through skill and reputation, while another could fully devote themselves to the chaos gods hoping to secure immortality as a champion or ascend to daemonhood. Beyond this - I really think most traitor Astartess simply don't think / plan that far ahead and instead instead prioritise their own survival, pursuing their own personal desires or dedicating themselves to settling age-old grudges
@@dystopianchimp This. I think much of the astartes conversion process leaves these people as incomplete and immature, in ways people wouldn't necessarily always recognize. Yes, they are great warriors, but they have no say in their lives. They have the potential of adulthood and being their own person robbed from them. Chaos offers a half truth about this and living for one's self, but exchanges a degree of freedom in this life for eternal servitude in death. The astartes are taken when young, they have not developed emotionally, they cannot interact with mortals like an adult might, so much of their mindsets whether it be complete deference to authority or extreme selfishness are the behaviours of children who have not yet socially matured. Ultimately they are doomed to be tools, not specifically because of the castration involved, but this is encompassed in the greater concept of having all agency stripped away. Having children is a choice, but a choice they are denied by invasive medical procedures, a choice I would say that is a symbolic representation of all other choices taken from them. Yes the average human outside of say the Diasporex, lack free will almost entirely by virtue of how impoverished and overworked they are, but there is an extra level of tragedy at such a revered position such as the astartes and the expenses associated and resources allocated, but having little more say than the average factory worker. They live or they die, value is assigned in the name of 'the cause', but who's cause?
Depends, but the butt of it is that the emperor is a false god (something the emperor would agree with himself funnily enough), and they worship the chaos gods and their motives. The funny thing is that the chaos gods are real in 40k, so their belief is valid. It comes down to the perception of morality. One thing they get right absolutely is that the emperor is not a god, and he would agree with that. The emperor despised religion.
@@dystopianchimpthen you have those in the Black Legion where the civil war never ended, their goal is still the same as it was during the Heresy. Topple the Emperor and claim the Imperium for themselves. This is probably the most far fetched goal of them all, but one that is a far greater purpose for the traitor legions to strive for.
He was caught up in his fear and was rationalizing it as "devotion" and by the time he was snapping out of it he was already splattered across the decking.
Living with the alpha legion would be so damn confusing. Especially while they’re waiting for the next abnett book They’re living Schrödinger’s quality-of-life lmao
Its actually fairly straight forward. You are whoever they want you do be, and you do whatever mission they need you to do. Your hypnoindoctrination will switch these things as seemessly as you would change lanes in traffic.
After coming upon a well done but lazily obvious AI produced lore channel I just want to compliment all the work and effort you put into your channel. Keep up the great stuff and keep being as creative as you can!
Ive mostly read horus heresy books, and the nightlords trilogy is my first 40k book but they are shockingly fair and kind somtimes especially talos which im assuming is far from the norm
I think in that book it's because of how understrength that warband is and they need their serfs more than others, like how the main serf character serves as a thunder hawk pilot
26:03 do other places for normall people for chaos=demon worlds, in the eye of terror,normall planets, dark mecanicome/titan 1s, the chaos inperiall gaurd/the normall inperial gaurd, and the normall macanacome.
I'd have thought it depends on which God your masters worship? Nurgle- slime pit stuff. Tzeentch- strange mind games. Khorne- mindless violence. Slaanesh? Well, let us not go there, because it's 18R rated.
It's such a coincidence I find this today! So I been listening to the audiobook of Soul Hunter (the first of the Talos/Night Lords triology) and was just this bit about how the slaves that attend to the astartes are looked at like celebs when they go into the slave levels of the ships. And how they have these underground blackmarkets to get power and shit. It also mentioned how the Night Lords sometimes come down to hunt them but if they have a protection coin, they good. It must be soooo crazy to be so low on the pole and know that those above you are objectively just better than you!
Have you watched video by Burial Goods about Talos disciplining his serfs? It's really great and feels like the opposing POV to what we get here. BTW he also may have done THE definitive reading related to the Daemonculaba!
The big fellas are cool and all, but the machine that is humanity is often more interesting to me. The thankless job, in almost all alliances, really strike a chord with me. Thank you for giving them a spotlight in many of your videos
In Talon of Horus it talks about daemons stalking through chaos ships and just kind painting with what is left of the serfs that they have been stalked for days at a time
It wasn’t space marines who held Cadia, who developed most worlds, who’s faith empowered the emperor, who guide ships, who make weapons, who find stl’s it was humanity Space Marines are an inferior devolved form of humanity not the other way around
great video but it could have been shortened down to solders win battles logistics win wars" because in any army the most important thing is not the elite warriors but the logistics network
I've honestly been wondering for some time what the life of your average person in WH40k is like. When described like this, it doesn't sound too much different than your average slum in a lot of other dystopian sci-fi franchises, e.g. Blade Runner.
Thanks mate - no immediate plans to migrate away from 40k, but if I was to ever do that I would defs dive headfirst into Alien or Bladerunner lore. Though always open to suggestions
The perspectives of every type of human mortal in the 40k universe. Even some of nobles (the non assholes ones ) since the assholes ones are a dime a dozen
I actually never thought about it, but being serf of Alpha Legion could actually not that bad. They aren't known for cruelty or horrible warcrimes like Night Lords or Iron Warriors, there's actually no reason for them to go out their way to torture their mortal crew and as you noticed, they would probably try to extract their operatives should they find themselves in a bad situation for the intel they have or may leak during interrogation
These lenses into the life of average people is in my opinion the best way to show the grim darkness of 40K.
100% agree 🦍
For me I think what says grim dark the most is the grey knights dreadnought that just looks like an angry space mating being carried in a baby carrier strapped to the chest of his robotic and very stiff robot papa. Not only this silliness but the pose is so so so bad. The pose the model ends up with is very similar to when a child wants "uppies" and waits with his arms out and a little up as they await being picked up by their adult. Obviously I'm not even being sarcastic about that grey knight model being the most quintessential grim dark thing in the 40k universe. Anyone who would even suggest I'm not being genuine is a got dang turducken... Thass a duck inside of a chicken inside of a turkey and then cooked.
100%
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As someone that only knows warhammer because my neighbor 3D prints models, this is true. I’ve played the Space Marines 3rd person shooter and a few minutes of total war: warhammer, so I know a bit, but this is easy for a newcomer to digest
_The Master was holding out their hand to him. and then the hand formed... a thumbs up._
"Good job on the I6 Report. I am actually going to need that 9-5 on my desk in 3 cycles, not 5."
*OH BLESSED DAY!*
Average ultramarine interaction
“Oh, and remember: next Friday... is Hawaiian shirt day. So, you know, if you want to, go ahead and wear a Hawaiian shirt and jeans.”
The Humans in 30 and 40k are like ants very useful but, they get trodden on all the time but piss enough of of them off and they can have quite a bite too.
Well said
That’s right. And some are like fire ants or jump ants or desert ants or jungle ants…
Hey I just wanted to say Jesus loves you and you are valuable made in Gods image And he loved you so much that he came down as a human to die for your sins Jesus loves you John 3;16 say for God so loved the world he gave his only son so whoever believe in him will not perish but have eternal meaning in heaven" he is salvation from sin and hell we've all sinned and deserve hell but Jesus paid the price for our sin with his blood so though true faith in him we will be saved we canot live a Good life to get to heaven nor by any good thing we do solely by true faith in Jesus are we saved true faith mean following Jesus and his commands and truly living for him by faith in him Prayer for giving your life to Christ Lord I recognise I am a sinner In need of the Savoir And I trust in the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ Who is God come to died for me I wish to follow you from this Day forward I want to turn form every sinful way and live for you and I ask for your help to do so in Jesus name amen Just remember The prayer doesn't save you but true faith in Jesus does the prayer is a show of faith to God Asking to be saved and accepting Jesus as lord❤❤
It is worth nothing to mention that the lower decks of an average human warship are a mirocosm, with little to no interference from the upper decks. The black legion (hopefully one day to be) omnibus tells us about tribes of men doing nothing useful to the ship, simply existing, half forgotten, worshipping the ship's machine spirit and serving as a recruitment pool for the traitor astartes, who periodically go down there to hunt a daemon or two, so the wild land down under won't become too wild. The lowest of the lower decks of the Vengeful Spirit are described as nigtmarish half-organic, half-daemonic hellscape, with warp-originated "life" forming walls of flesh, stalactites of human teeth, and so on.
For the young of such tribes, their astartes masters might be a legend, witnessed only by their forefathers or some distant tribe from the other end of their "world", and their lifestyle might be close to that of their prehistorical, hunter-gatherer ancestors from Earth. Except for the ecosystem surrounding them taking energy not from the Sun, but from the residual radiation emanating from the poorly shielded ships' reactor, for the meat they hunt being warp-touched critters, and for the berries they pick up being half-daemonic in nature.
Man...here i was complaining about my life
Gods how is it that the parts of the setting that get focus are always the least interesting? I want more stories told at these levels of the setting
@@SorchaSublime
The Rogue Trader game sort of addresses it. As you do have to visit your ship's lower decks to settle some disputes.
Though what I think Rogue Trader really nails is how oppressive and hierarchical Imperial society is. Like not just in some dim abstract way. Your character gets worshiped as though they were second to the Emperor themselves while everybody else gets treated like poop they wouldn't pee on to put out a fire. And there's pretty much no other reason for it than because you have a tenuous bloodline connection to the last Rogue Trader who adopted you in the first place. Like it's completely blind dumb luck that you get this special aristocratic treatment.
could you tell me the books so i could read more
POV you learn what a chaos word look like when it’s one of the more *calm* type specially for iron warrior standards
Tbh, I don't know much post heresy lore for the Iron Warriors.
I love stories of regular people, people with bills to pay and every day worries. Especially in a fantastical world like Warhammer
Tomorrow and Monday
Idk you read any guardsman novels for 40k but you'd like them if that's the case. I like them better than the novels where space marines are the main characters because the guard are real people with actual problems and not Mary Sue problems.
"Get out of the wa-"
"Oh shit i pushed him too hard"
Like a Traitor Astartes gives the slightest damn. Hell, he probably meant to do it that hard.
Humanity doesn't need Astartes but Astartes definitely need humanity. Their egos are so inflated you could achieve orbit.
except some specific chapters tho, not all marines have that ego problem
Depends on the Chapter/individual. Many simply can remember what it's like to be so fragile.
You have to take into account the chances of being chosen to undergo the process of becoming an Astartes, surviving the process and initiations to become a full Battle brother, realising theres a ratio of 1 Astartes for every couple thousand planets and understanding that a handful of you and your brothers can take turn a battle and take a planet in a few days is going to give you a pretty deserved ego boost. Fuck humanity, we are the emperors chosen!
@@lexleonard7183 how are they going to get to the battle if there's no humans or servitors (since they count as human) manning the ship? How are they going to resupply if they don't manufacture their own ammo and gear? How are they going to even know there's battle to miss out on with no astrotelepaths handling comms?
Again, that ego assumes tens of thousands or millions have already done the hard work. Without humanity, Astartes a naked gorillas. When they forgot that, they fell to chaos like any other underhiver.
And without the astartes, humanity would be dead by now
@@UNYEILDING
This just makes me imagine that within a World Eater's ship is there's that one barely raging genocidal World Eater guy who's in his rare moment of clarity is like "Listen up fuckheads, if you use any these serfs that we picked up a while back as punching bags, I can guarantee you this ship is going to tumble into an exploding star and you are all going to end up like wet paper plates... Not very blood for the Blood God isn't it? So don't touch them!"
Khorne is probably chilling with his feet up and be like: "Yeah that's true. I'll make that guy a Champion of Chaos."
“We can either have a Little blood & skulls now, or a Lot of blood & skulls later! Which sounds better?”
“Oh… delayed gratification hurts my -tummy- nails. -Cookie- Khorny Monster wants to shed blood now… _Tick_ SKUULLLSSS!!!! OM NOM NOM!!!”
Thats basically lotara sarrin
Bro being a serf/Thrall in a World Eater’s ship is not fun, the 40k Angron the Red Angel makes it clear that not only do the humans have to deal with Berzekers randomly killing them, but they might just randomly get grabbed by a daemon and fed to some machinery.
Makes u wonder how the khornes get their preventative maintenance and shipboard maintenance done. Or maybe the daemons do all that 🤣
Oh yeah and their bolter mags refilled.... Or maybe in khorne csm warbands they just issue more mags than usual.
There was a part in the GG series where some chaos mercs were too bored not killing anyone, so the transport co-pilot was killed, pilot scalped mid-descent, then had his brain sucked out upon landing. Imagine being some serf and getting mutilated just because someone was bored.
Sure as sure
warhammer just grimderp that way
“Hey barry did you hear-OHMYGO”
You ever seen that Key and Peele skit where they’re lampooning LMFAO and it’s the “Party don’t stop cause it keeps on going” and they literally cannot escape the party? That’s an EC serf experience.
“It’s been three centuries and the party’s still going.”
@@blank4227 Fulgrim, Path of Heaven, Angel Exterminatus, Lord of Excellence, all the novellas and short stories, Shroud of Night, Talon of Horus, Black Legion, the Fabius trilogy and I’m very excited for the Eidolon novel.
You need writeups, I can provide.
its more of like being stuck in the basement of a party you weren't invited to and only being visited when someone wants a living pinata
One would think the Traitor Legions would show their mortal serfs greater (if grudging) respect considering what an absolute pain it is for the Traitors to recoup losses of such numbers as opposed to Loyalists who have the Imperium to draw upon. And this may very well be the case with some of the saner warlords.
Traitor legions often just enslave populations. Slaves are replaceable.
Only servants with specialist or authoritative positions (overseers, technical specialists, savants, trusted guards etc) will be treated with more care because they aren’t nearly as replaceable.
Most traitor astartes have God complexes
It would make logical sense but the whole setting is supposed to be cartoonists grim and like the dream of a goth teenager so it wouldn't fit. Everything has to be bad. Wouldn't be 40k if it wasn't.
@@Cajaquarius
Its more interesting for a setting to be consistent than just a giant meme you can’t even take a tiny bit seriously tbh
Grimdark > grimderp
Well it looked like it was the Iron Warriors, and the Iron Warriors are disgusted by weakness, even if that weakness is in the form of people bowing before them as though they were gods.
The iron Warriors probably saw that serf and what he was doing and saw him as garbage, so they treated him as such with no regard because he didn't deserve it in their eyes and he was in the way.
They tend to treat you better if you show you have a backbone, my favorite fan made video essentially ended with a guardsman being spared but her commissar being killed, because the commissar was willing to kneel and pledge himself before the iron warriors, but she stood in defiance knowing the iron warrior not only could kill her but probably would, so the iron warrior killed the commissar for his weakness and spared her, offering her the opportunity to prove herself, as the planetary governor failed her, the imperium failed her, and even her commander failed her.
The death guard treats their crew better than imperial ship masters.
Consult with the marines and ask them anything, they enjoy esoteric conversations.
Dantine cannot look away, even though he wants to. He feels sick again, as if his body has been scraped empty. He does not know what to say. He does not even know what to think.
‘I am a great horror to you,’ Vorx says. That is certainly true.
‘A long time ago,’ Vorx says, ‘I was a horror to myself. The universe is full of horror. You can resist it, and drive yourself into madness. Or you can accept it, and then begin to understand it. I would recommend the latter course, though I accept you must feel quite differently. For now.’
Dantine stares at the monster. For a moment, he is entirely lost for words.‘You... killed them all.’
‘I did not kill you.’
‘Why?’
‘I do not know. Ha. Do you believe that?’ The monster muses. ‘I am a believer in fate. I recognise a conjunction when I see one. For what it is worth, that has kept me alive for longer than most, and I do not intend to turn an opportunity aside.’
‘Why do you do it?’ Dantine can feel himself losing control. He could become angry, if he were not so worn out and nauseous. ‘You were a man once, were you not? You were a human?’
‘I still am, of a kind.’ Vorx is not looking at him. ‘We are all on a spectrum,captain. You are at one end, I am at the other. We are still the same species.’
‘You are mad.’
Vorx chuckles again. ‘I have lost count of how many times that insult has been aimed at me. By your kind, by my kind.’ He is still pacing, as if counting out steps.There are things, sluggish things, that seem to be living in his armour.
‘The accusation is only meaningful if you can give me some suitable account of sanity. I saw the way you lived on that world. I have seen the way Imperial citizens live on a hundred worlds. If you truly believe that this is a sane galaxy, and that we are the aberrations, then I pity you. But then, you have not seen all the alternatives yet. When you do, your mind may change.’
Iron warriors can out of necessity talk to them, pretty much tell them everything.
Chaos does have to tempt people after all. Apparently that temptation in this case is minimum decency.
I've always found the glimpses into serf life amongst the traitors to be some of the most interesting elements of Black Library books, from the Death Guard to the Night Lords there are echoes of imperial life and servitude. The meaninglessness of life in the imperium begs the question of how much worse things could be, the horrors of traitor vessels are extreme, but no more than the cold heartless logic of imperial bureaucrats who direct trillions of lives into furnaces and toxic agriworlds where life expectancies are just as low. The difference being is the cruelty of the traitors seems more senseless and personal, it leaves us scratching our heads at the validity of such sporadic violence and cruelty by those who lack the infinite manpower possessed by the imperium.
Well I mean you get your soul tortured and devoured by demons so
@@dantewilliams2757 nah souls are like rain in the ocean in the warp. its literally called the sea of souls. you don't have sentience or awareness anymore. unless you are a psyker or eldar then your just fucked no matter who your serve.
I like the serf in the night lord series. Septimus or whatever
Body. It seems likely there is no such thing as a soul in the Imperium. Psykers of great power can live on as bodiless minds as can magos by sticking their brains in steel bodies, but for the average person death is the end of the self. Oblivion, born into misery, return to oblivion.
@@Cajaquarius souls are very much a thing that all sentient (and perhaps non sentient) creatures have, this is not the same thing as the mind or self more like just life force. powerful psykers and eldar can have awareness of their soul after death but that just fucking sucks since you get absorbed by daemons like everyone else but your just aware of it and they know that so they may do something messed up to your soul thats not comparable or even analogues to any physical or mental torture you can receive while alive.
Meanwhile thousand sons to psykers: "my apprentice, you are not mere "witch", you are next step of what we can become, we'll grant you opportunity to shine like a star."
Im new to WH but i like its odd intricate method of power scaling.
The idea that a mere serf can witness a CSM as a living god and bow in total revernce, only to be killed for nothing, gives you a sense of just how feeble characters are. There is nothing special about him, even the fact he isnt special at all.
While simultaneously, this CSM can be cut down by a Solitare in a second, who would just do a jig and wander off, making the CSM, in all his might, allso seem plainly pathetic.
I think but for a moment traitors get to feel the insignificance of the masses when they face a custodes, because to a custodes a space marine is no more then a man would be to a space marine.
It isn't even a fight, a custodes will cut down a space marine without a thought and without effort, and to the traitors that is probably horrifying, seeing something that doesn't care about you and that your best attempts to fight against will matter very little, and once it has killed you it will pay you no more regard.
Meanwhile, a lowly guardsman can face a CSM and potentially _Win!_ “Pity the Guardsman” indeed!
@@UGNAvalon*many lowly guardsmen
@@Lazare7782 About a squad if a Melta or Krak launcher is involved or about two dozen if they have a Hellgun or two.
That’s a very good point.
Serf's of the Alpha Legion have the best life, change my Mind and Hydra Dominatus.
Utter confusion at what might “actually” be going on, so you just keep your head down & follow your orders.
But hey, at least it’s easier to remember names! Everyone is “Lord Alpharius”! :D
@@UGNAvalon Very few chaosbands still use "I am alpharius" joke, other alpha legionaries are pretty hateful to those who still use the shtick. Plus, they don't exactly lie to their serfs, why would they?
@@TheStalkeRuuuuuus1 To keep them guessing, of course! ;D
In seriousness tho, it'd more likely be "deception by omission" & keeping intel on a "compartmentalized"/"need to know" basis. If by some miracle a serf gets captured or leaks info, nothing they say would be useful for any Imperials that might hear of it.
Nah, I consider Alpha Legion the clown legion. Even the authors that take them seriously barely respect them. In reality, most of them are probably not even "on mission," and frankly, nobody knows what that is anymore. The vast majority are either Chaos warbands at worst, or disparate pirate bands. At best, if we're being optimistic, they're an unaffiliated warrior sect like those warrior monks in feudal Japan, caring for little else beyond maintaining the force of arms to maintain autonomy. Their serfs, as everywhere else, are just another exploited underclass suffering various degrees of indignity.
"You're not worthy of knowing the plan." Yes? And? How's that different from any other jobber without security clearances and paygrade?
@@ved2360 _"How's that different from any other jobber without security clearances and paygrade?"_
Lower odds of dying by getting fed to warp abominations, becoming a warp abomination, dying to a mood swing due to your master suffering some combination of space BPD, CPTSD and bipolar, or ending up as front-line cannon fodder (not because they value your life more, but because they just tend to not do front-line stuff as much).
Chaos lord: Now... slave, you shall serve... and serve you shall to me and me alone! Serf: O-Oh no... god emperor perserve m-my so-- Chaos Lord: But first... you must follow my law or suffer my wrath, 1: three healthy meals a day. 2: sleep at least 8 or more hours a day. 3: Brush your teeth every night. 4: No drinking while driveing. 5: Murder is bad. 6-- Serf: Uuuuh.... what?
Man, serf was liking the deal until “murder is bad,” came up. Chaos lord must’ve been a Salamander.
Wow I would LOVE this to be a television series. Not a grand depiction of the Horus Heresy but rather a tiny perspective in the life of average people in this universe.
Great video, thank you!
It would be amazing as an animated series
Id also like the HH series, granted it would need the mini-movie series treatment in order to cover the sheer amount of important shit happening.
Really hope your channel pops off. Theres not enough vids that capture the essence of daily life in 40k.
Thanks mate!! More on the way ❤
Would be interesting to hear about marriage in this universe
Oooh yes mate great idea!
The tau will marry their friends and even get married in groups. I just remembered that.
@@sonic4ever6 Alien beasts
For imperial nobles marriages are usually arranged, often at the suggestion of the order famulous, a subgroup of the adepts sororitas. Lower class probably depends on the local culture.
@@dystopianchimp Marriage among the followers of Chaos would be very interesting, tragic, and disturbing.
I think we're maybe being a bit too conservative with our imagination here. For certain Chaos factions it's easy to picture what reality would be like for a serf; think of a Nurgle warband, its members simply become integrated into a living, giant and peristaltic organism serving their masters, similar as it is for Iron Warriors, where humans are nothing more than consumable parts for a greater mechanism. Followers of Tzeentch are a bit trickier to imagine; I think mutation would be extremely common among them and probably even useful, I don't see how a crew would be much recognizable as humans anymore, flapping, wiggling and thrilling as they go about their arcane and culty doings. Finally, serfs under Khornate and Slaaneshi masters would live in societies where their gods respective excesses are practiced and celebrated; on one hand everything gets done by feeling and in a stupor, I don't see fertility rate being an issue, while on the other things are done with extreme ruthlessness and violence, everything a constant battle for survival. I don't think life would continue very normally for serfs under Chaos, it simply doesn't have to. Something would... Seep in from the Warp, and change things at a fundamental level.
Khornate servants might actually have a life not so different from the underbelly of most imperial worlds tbh.
Strict discipline (yes ironically Khornate are known for discipline), rules to follow, tribes and gangs following the strongest amongst them.
Stepping out of line gets you killed. Being at the wrong place at the wrong time gets you killed. Being part of an outcast clan gets you killed.
But otherwise you might live a relatively normal life
Yeah I agree. We already know that most chaos ships don't make use of gellar fields, and I'd imagine having even a single warp entity, whether it be aligned with one of the four Chaos Gods or not (a lot of people tend to forget that the warp is vast, not every entity is aligned, and there may even be more than just four "gods"), appear on a ship will change life in pretty drastic ways. I doubt the warp entity is going to just wander around aimlessly and mind it's own business.
Furthermore human life is vastly different across the Imperium. There are entire worlds of people living lives similar in quality to our own, and entire worlds of people living lives even better than we do. We merely hear about the shitty ones most because that's what makes the setting interesting. The Imperium doesn't give two shits about how the leaders of said world run their world so long as they A) Pay the Tithe, B) Declare vassalhood to the Emperor. That being said, I can promise you life will instantly get worse for you upon a Chaos barge or, god forbid, a Chaos world (people seem to forget Chaos holds worlds as well).
@The_Haruspex this is not true most chaos ships still use Gellar fields or some form of warp protection. Daemons don't care about your allegiance and will still violently murderfuck your ship.
@@spacehitler4537 Throughout the later half of the Horus Heresy books, particularly the ones that cover the Shadow Crusade through Macragge, both the World Eaters and the Word Bearers ships travel around without gellar fields. The interior of their ships have become warp infested hell holes where daemons manifest and roam freely - the Word Bearers even have a line about how those who get killed by the daemons in the warp were simply usurped by something stronger than them as it's the "natural order of things".
In the Visions of Heresy lorebook the daemon infestations were so bad that it prevented a group of Custodes from linking up with the Emperor when they teleported onto his ship during the Siege of Terra.
There's no reason to think this would have changed for Chaos SM ships in time between the late stages of the Heresy and the 41st millenium.
@The_Haruspex word bearers and world eater ships are that other part of the "most.". You've also got to consider that both factions were working with considerably more strength at the time. Looking at the Alpha Legion, Iron Warriors, Night Lords, and many other minor warbands like the Red Corsairs don't share their suicidal philosophies. Chaos was also much more unified during that peak of its power. The other chaos faction I would bet don't bother with Gellar Fields are the Death Guard.
"A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in" refers to posterity. It means that you should build for the next generation, even if you will never enjoy the fruits of your labor.
Love the new crop of high quality 40k creators!
It's just as possible that the IW merely slapped the guy out of the way but he died easilly because he's frail and got slapped by an IW. The was no intention specified so I think it's almost just as dark that the space marine just had zero regard either way and his death was simply inopportune.
Cool vid
Working for the Death Guard sounds slightly better than working for the Mechanicus
Servitor: oh my god, he's looking at ME! I must be important!
Chaos Marine: what an unfortunate-looking specimen of humanity. Maybe the worst I've ever seen. Can we really not do better than this?
the sewage reveal at the start got me good
I wonder about the motivations of traitor Astartes; If you are a mule, unable to procreate, what is your legacy? What do you get out of life if you cannot pass down your ill gotten gains? It seems like an interesting subject to me.
Honestly, for the most part I would say their goals are just extremely selfish? One might aim to earn a legacy that outlives them through skill and reputation, while another could fully devote themselves to the chaos gods hoping to secure immortality as a champion or ascend to daemonhood. Beyond this - I really think most traitor Astartess simply don't think / plan that far ahead and instead instead prioritise their own survival, pursuing their own personal desires or dedicating themselves to settling age-old grudges
@@dystopianchimp This. I think much of the astartes conversion process leaves these people as incomplete and immature, in ways people wouldn't necessarily always recognize. Yes, they are great warriors, but they have no say in their lives. They have the potential of adulthood and being their own person robbed from them. Chaos offers a half truth about this and living for one's self, but exchanges a degree of freedom in this life for eternal servitude in death. The astartes are taken when young, they have not developed emotionally, they cannot interact with mortals like an adult might, so much of their mindsets whether it be complete deference to authority or extreme selfishness are the behaviours of children who have not yet socially matured. Ultimately they are doomed to be tools, not specifically because of the castration involved, but this is encompassed in the greater concept of having all agency stripped away. Having children is a choice, but a choice they are denied by invasive medical procedures, a choice I would say that is a symbolic representation of all other choices taken from them.
Yes the average human outside of say the Diasporex, lack free will almost entirely by virtue of how impoverished and overworked they are, but there is an extra level of tragedy at such a revered position such as the astartes and the expenses associated and resources allocated, but having little more say than the average factory worker. They live or they die, value is assigned in the name of 'the cause', but who's cause?
Depends, but the butt of it is that the emperor is a false god (something the emperor would agree with himself funnily enough), and they worship the chaos gods and their motives.
The funny thing is that the chaos gods are real in 40k, so their belief is valid. It comes down to the perception of morality. One thing they get right absolutely is that the emperor is not a god, and he would agree with that. The emperor despised religion.
@@dystopianchimpthen you have those in the Black Legion where the civil war never ended, their goal is still the same as it was during the Heresy. Topple the Emperor and claim the Imperium for themselves. This is probably the most far fetched goal of them all, but one that is a far greater purpose for the traitor legions to strive for.
You think like a mortal. They are not bound by standard mortality
What was the slaves error that the Astartes felt the need to personally go down to the hab zone and kill him?
He looked at a chaos Space Marine.
@@inthefade Or he was just in the way of where the astartes needed to go..
He was in the way
@@dystopianchimp This is why they end up using Daemonculaba's while more sensible legions farm cults.
He dare to look up the iron warrior
17:10 "Everywhere I look it's, 'Pepe Sylvia, Pepe Sylvia!' WHO IS PEPE SYLVIA?"
It's easy to forget that there is ordinary people on chaos worlds who live "normal lives" ...sort of
Excellent video man 10/10 I loved that bit at the start pulled me right in!
Subscribed!!!
This is soooo awesome!
Ok but what did the serf in the beginning even do? Were the iron warriors just bored or some shit? Was it because he showed too much deference?
X2
I figure he was just in the way.
@@kyleschroder9045Everybody knew to move out the way expect that one serf what a narcissist am I right?
He was caught up in his fear and was rationalizing it as "devotion" and by the time he was snapping out of it he was already splattered across the decking.
Thought provoking and something that hasn't really been explored.
Thanks mate ❤ Much appreciated
If you're interested in the lives of mortal servants of chaos look into the planet descriptions in the black crusade rulebooks.
"Its been getting quite spikey round here lately Bob... are we chaos now?"
Nice video! Subbed! 😁🤙
Baseline humans are the real heros! ✊️🥺
Hey man I just want to say I love these videos and they keep bringing me back, whoever wrote this script could 100% be a writer this is fantastic
Thanks mate - appreciate the kind words and glad you like the video ❤️
Quality work and well narrated. The short stories with just enough sounds to make the moments all the more impactful. definitely earned a sub
Thanks mate - glad you enjoyed it!
This video is phenomenal! How you don't have more views or subs is beyond me. Subscribing, my friend
Living with the alpha legion would be so damn confusing.
Especially while they’re waiting for the next abnett book
They’re living Schrödinger’s quality-of-life lmao
Its actually fairly straight forward. You are whoever they want you do be, and you do whatever mission they need you to do. Your hypnoindoctrination will switch these things as seemessly as you would change lanes in traffic.
It’s wild that you can’t really tell it is a Chaos or Imperium serf for a while through the initial narration.
Dude this is awesome!
Ever heard of the Blood Gorgons warband? They actually treat their human serfs with a lot of respect.
You are a talented narrator and story teller! Really enjoyed that :)
Thanks mate - glad to hear it!
Great channel and videos. Love the high quality content! Keep it up!
This is really high quality stuff! Happy to sub and looking forward to more!
After coming upon a well done but lazily obvious AI produced lore channel I just want to compliment all the work and effort you put into your channel. Keep up the great stuff and keep being as creative as you can!
really good video, wouldnt wanna be that dude gettting looked down on
Ive mostly read horus heresy books, and the nightlords trilogy is my first 40k book but they are shockingly fair and kind somtimes especially talos which im assuming is far from the norm
I think in that book it's because of how understrength that warband is and they need their serfs more than others, like how the main serf character serves as a thunder hawk pilot
26:03 do other places for normall people for chaos=demon worlds,
in the eye of terror,normall planets,
dark mecanicome/titan 1s,
the chaos inperiall gaurd/the normall inperial gaurd,
and the normall macanacome.
Just found this channel, earned a sub already
I do not want to think about what happens to children on chaos worlds
This is good stuff mate.
I'd have thought it depends on which God your masters worship? Nurgle- slime pit stuff. Tzeentch- strange mind games. Khorne- mindless violence. Slaanesh? Well, let us not go there, because it's 18R rated.
Slaanesh be like snuff stuff.
Slannesh is diddy party but way way way way way worse
It’s kinda funny to think about a chaos bureaucrat
It's such a coincidence I find this today!
So I been listening to the audiobook of Soul Hunter (the first of the Talos/Night Lords triology) and was just this bit about how the slaves that attend to the astartes are looked at like celebs when they go into the slave levels of the ships. And how they have these underground blackmarkets to get power and shit. It also mentioned how the Night Lords sometimes come down to hunt them but if they have a protection coin, they good.
It must be soooo crazy to be so low on the pole and know that those above you are objectively just better than you!
Did I just discovered feminism right there?🤔
Top tier book series!! I drew alot of information for this vid from those very books
@@dystopianchimp I finally finished the first book!
Have you watched video by Burial Goods about Talos disciplining his serfs? It's really great and feels like the opposing POV to what we get here.
BTW he also may have done THE definitive reading related to the Daemonculaba!
great work!!!!
The big fellas are cool and all, but the machine that is humanity is often more interesting to me. The thankless job, in almost all alliances, really strike a chord with me. Thank you for giving them a spotlight in many of your videos
The servo skull at the beginning looks incredibly boss-eyed
Awesome storyteling mate. Thann you
Great work mate! Love 40k content from the peon's point of view.
I think it'd be amazing if a ship of X chaos god worshipping Astartes had a revolt of cultists of Y chaos god that causes both of their dooms
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Welcome aboard!! 🦍
In Talon of Horus it talks about daemons stalking through chaos ships and just kind painting with what is left of the serfs that they have been stalked for days at a time
Can you make one about a loyalist chapter serf?
Id likena deep dive into lofe on planets controlled by chaos as well. Maybe tau planets too
Did you write this based on ur 40k knowledge?
If so ur doing a great job
Thanks mate ❤ Yeah little bit of chimpy 40k fan fiction
@@dystopianchimp keep it up I kept questioning if it was cannon or not
It wasn’t space marines who held Cadia, who developed most worlds, who’s faith empowered the emperor, who guide ships, who make weapons, who find stl’s it was humanity Space Marines are an inferior devolved form of humanity not the other way around
very good video, i've subscribed
Not sure why but I felt the need to subscribe..
If you thought life was hard for an imperial hive city inhabitant, it's 100 times worse for a slave of Chaos
great video but it could have been shortened down to solders win battles logistics win wars" because in any army the most important thing is not the elite warriors but the logistics network
I just assumed marriage was one of many things forgotten long ago about the universe
Makes being part of the Imperium look like a cake walk.
Intro alone gained a sub
Now I know what Septimus’ (talos’ servant) life is like
Can we get some about specific legions’ serfs in the future?
So... basically a minor upgrade from the county permitting department.
New sub! You rule!
Great video.
Don't forget about the 3pm sacrifice to the dark gods
Feels like long term outset retail!
The first guy is just so sad lmao. Poor guy
I've honestly been wondering for some time what the life of your average person in WH40k is like. When described like this, it doesn't sound too much different than your average slum in a lot of other dystopian sci-fi franchises, e.g. Blade Runner.
Dude just found your channel love jt
Welcome!
Now tell us what happens to the poor serfs of the Emperor's Children. Or worse the ones found by the Drukhari.
Are you planning on expanding to any other dystopian universes? I really enjoy your storytelling style. It’s very calming and informative.
Thanks mate - no immediate plans to migrate away from 40k, but if I was to ever do that I would defs dive headfirst into Alien or Bladerunner lore. Though always open to suggestions
2:25 there’s children on the traitor ships?
ppl be humping
16:33 thats gordon ramsay
Gordonus Ramsicus 😂
Would love to hear what a video by you on hive spire royalty would look like
Such a video might very well already be in the works 🙊
@@dystopianchimp looking forward to it
Is the person reading the presenter of PBS Spacetime?
The perspectives of every type of human mortal in the 40k universe.
Even some of nobles (the non assholes ones ) since the assholes ones are a dime a dozen
The Dark Administratum
Gold standard content.
So still better than a serf in the Emperium, not too bad.
Until you step out into the area with market it could have easily been an Imperial ship
"Make. No. Mistake"
I actually never thought about it, but being serf of Alpha Legion could actually not that bad. They aren't known for cruelty or horrible warcrimes like Night Lords or Iron Warriors, there's actually no reason for them to go out their way to torture their mortal crew and as you noticed, they would probably try to extract their operatives should they find themselves in a bad situation for the intel they have or may leak during interrogation