The file name for importing ANN software cannot have a space symbol, but can have an underline. Otherwise, the file cannot be used. If you want to send us the file, please name it according to the name and model of the effector, and each effector should be in a separate folder. The name of the folder must match the name of the WAVE file
My losses stay on 0.9* level, batch size 1024, 1000 times. How to get 0.1? What could go wrong? UPD. I find answer. I set latensy to 24 sepmples, as I measured. But when set 0 delay, loss become 0.01)
Can you provide more detailed information about the training parameter screen's options? What are the differences between Fast, Medium and Slow that are now shown on version 1.0.3? How about the "Times" parameter? Is there a better model produced if a value of 1000 is specified?
Fast, medium and slow refer to the intensity of learning, which can be adjusted according to the user's own requirements. 1000 is just a basis, 5000 is also possible, but it depends on your file. Sometimes 1000 times and 5000 times have the same effect, and sometimes too many times of practice will cause loss.
Dear MVAVE team, I ordered a Tank G and waiting for it. I'd like to mention about something I'd love to have on Tank G. At stomp mode, can you add an option to AMP switch so that it can raise volume up with a set value instead of only switching the amp on and off? so it can be a used in solo
Hello, I wanted to make a suggestion for improving the application. The option to reset all factory presets could be more hidden, in another tab perhaps, or before the person clicks there, a question appears, if the person is sure they want to restore all presets. I say this because I lost everything, for the second time, for the simple fact that my finger accidentally bumped it. This option could be more ((hidden)), because any little touch erases everything, I hadn't even saved them all, and this is the second time this has happened... 🤦🏾♂️ Please fix this urgently! I don't even have the courage to use the app live, because of this situation!
Why are you not using a re-amp box between the audio interface out and the pedal in? You're sending a line level signal to a pedal that is designed for an instrument level signal the way it's shown in the video. Noise is going to be a huge factor this way, isn't it?
I get "couldn't open the input device" on all my usb interfaces. i have three of them, Sinco cant open any input. They work fine in any DAW, and should be able to work with SincoANN, but the program is just bugged. I have the 1.0.3 version.
@@M-VAVE No, i solved the problem, Windows hadn't migrated my USB audio drivers after updating, so it couldn't open the microphone input. i reinstalled Windows, and now it works. So i was now able to train a file, but the sound was not very good after 1000 epochs, but i have read that distorted sounds need much more training to sound good, so i will try again. So it was not a problem with the SincoAnn program, i also had to take it out of the Programfiles 86 folder, cause the audiotrain.exe crashed when it was in there, also a Windows problem... Microsoft always messes up..
All of a sudden the AudioTrain app stopped creating folder and AM2 file. The Record part works fine it creates the WAV file in the folder. But its the AudioTrain that fails. I reinstalled the Program. it worked for about a week and then it just stopped. I even did a new windows install and reinstalled the Sinco app. but the AudioTrain part still fails. I even tried forcing the AudioTrain to run as Administrator. Any help would be appreciated
Hi , i did all the steps but after the TRAIN preset,,... the BIOS only appears but never shows all the parameters if it is training it. It does not become an amp
Can you upload a tutorial on how to record the wave file so I can send it to you? since my computer does not meet the necessary requirements. thank you!
@@luisnegrao4948 I just fixed it by creating a new folder, as well. I have to say, this is really cool. It takes a while with my slow computer, but it’s really great they gave us the access to the software.
Como faz para mudar , no meu caso na hota do train aparece CPU train e pra voces aparece GPU train , minha placa de video é AMD,como fazer o programa reconhecer ela...
Hello there! I cannot train after recording am2 or am3, the window(AudioTrainHHAG.exe) closes right after few seconds. I managed to run that .exe on powershell, but it seems to have a default path on it. so, it also closes after a couple of seconds, but the log reads: PS C:\Program Files (x86)\SincoAnn\AudioTrain> .\AudioTrainHHAG.exe BatchSize : 1024 Times : 5000 Delay : 0 LRate : 0.001 Model : AM4 FilePath : D:\ckworkspace\training\gojira\gojira ERROR: File doesn't exist or otherwise can't load file D:\ckworkspace\training\gojira\gojira_am4.wav error:D:\ckworkspace\training\gojira D:\ckworkspace\training\gojira is error can you guys help? love the blackbox so much, by the way... amazing product!
running the AudioTrain.exe, and not the AudioTrainHHAG.exe, on PS got the same behaviour, but the log then reads: PS C:\Program Files (x86)\SincoAnn\AudioTrain> .\AudioTrain.exe batchsize 1024 times 10 delay 0 lr 0.001 ERROR: File doesn't exist or otherwise can't load file C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\NETURAL_Markbass_LMV_Flat_7\NETURAL_Markbass_LMV_Flat_7.wav error:C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\NETURAL_Markbass_LMV_Flat_7 C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\NETURAL_Markbass_LMV_Flat_7 is error
Thanks! What if i had already wavs of raw and reamp sound (another raw wav, from NAM for example). Can i use them? Or only need to record my gear? It's useful to add buttons to open reamped wav file instead of recording it. And will there be some web page or cloud where users can share with their created ANNs?
great idea! But i think specific wave file "interrogates" analog effector and get some response. I think algoritm of program will absolete different if change analog effector to wav file with recorded analog effector. But still, it should be great get raw guitar tone of band you like and teach this sound to the tank-g))
For train tone of your favourite band you will need their DI and Reamp files. Almost impossible to find them Here i want to use di and reamp of NAM, proteus captures that i already got or can download. Or if i want to capture sound of my favourite vst amp - i can't just "record" in realtime, i need to export wav and then use it to train ANN
Hi, i hope u can give me sime tips on how to improve my training results i always got 0.9 result. I have i5 cpu, 12gb ram and an entry level NVIDiA gpu. Thanks in advance.
Olá, queria dar uma sugestão de melhora no aplicativo. A opção de reset all factory presets, poderia estar mais escondida, em uma outra aba talvez, ou então antes fa pessoa clicar lá, aparecer uma pergunta, se a pessoa tem certeza de que quer restaurar todos os presets. Eu digo isso porque eu perdi tudo, pela segunda vez, pelo simples fato de que meu dedo esbarrou sem querer. Essa opção poderia estar mais ((oculta)), porque qualquer toquezinho já apaga tudo, eu nem tinha salvado todos, e é a segunda vez que isso acontece... 🤦🏾♂️ Por favor, corrijam isso urgente! eu não tenho nem coragem de usar o aplicativo ao vivo, por conta dessa situação!
as capturas também poderiam ser instalada via aplicativo celular, acho que vcs só ganhariam mas usuários, um produto descomplicado, onde todos poderiam ter a mesma condição de atualização desenvolvimento via aplicativo celular tem muitas pessoas que não tem pc
The file name for importing ANN software cannot have a space symbol, but can have an underline. Otherwise, the file cannot be used.
If you want to send us the file, please name it according to the name and model of the effector, and each effector should be in a separate folder. The name of the folder must match the name of the WAVE file
I would like to send you, how can I reach you? unfortunately, I couldn't get help on Instagram or Facebook.
You share some ann files with guitar amps. Can you share some ann files of bass amps for Tank-B?
I have an Aquilar preamp, so it sounds. I have a tank g: th-cam.com/video/n7agrUjcMCI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=7Bp4BcVAz9upn02k
@@tunelow Tank-b does not currently support ANN
My losses stay on 0.9* level, batch size 1024, 1000 times. How to get 0.1? What could go wrong?
UPD. I find answer. I set latensy to 24 sepmples, as I measured. But when set 0 delay, loss become 0.01)
How change "CPU Train" for "GPU Train" in the train's STEP? It's taking too long for the CPU, and I can't change it.
Estou com o mesmo problema e com isso demora 6 horas para fazer o processo ou seja impossível, ele não está habilitando a placa de video...
@@leonelguitarraPelo que entendi e testei só funciona em placas nvidia porque usa a arquitetura CUDA, tecnologia proprietária da nvidia.
same to me
If you want GPU, you need a NVidia card, and it will use it from itself.
the link to download is not working.
🔥🔥
Só pelo review do @NegoGuitar 🙏🎸
Can you provide more detailed information about the training parameter screen's options? What are the differences between Fast, Medium and Slow that are now shown on version 1.0.3? How about the "Times" parameter? Is there a better model produced if a value of 1000 is specified?
Fast, medium and slow refer to the intensity of learning, which can be adjusted according to the user's own requirements. 1000 is just a basis, 5000 is also possible, but it depends on your file. Sometimes 1000 times and 5000 times have the same effect, and sometimes too many times of practice will cause loss.
What does "nan" means in the epoch steps?
@@James-o1w5h This means the program is wrong. You can adjust the parameters and try again.
@@M-VAVE ok thx! And what about the batch size option plz? Is 1024 better than 256?
Dear MVAVE team, I ordered a Tank G and waiting for it. I'd like to mention about something I'd love to have on Tank G. At stomp mode, can you add an option to AMP switch so that it can raise volume up with a set value instead of only switching the amp on and off? so it can be a used in solo
Hello, I wanted to make a suggestion for improving the application. The option to reset all factory presets could be more hidden, in another tab perhaps, or before the person clicks there, a question appears, if the person is sure they want to restore all presets. I say this because I lost everything, for the second time, for the simple fact that my finger accidentally bumped it. This option could be more ((hidden)), because any little touch erases everything, I hadn't even saved them all, and this is the second time this has happened... 🤦🏾♂️
Please fix this urgently! I don't even have the courage to use the app live, because of this situation!
Sorry but I am not understanding anything you are doing here. Is this a Audio-Interface, a Reamp-Box, where do the Input/Outputs go to,... etc.???
Is it a connection between a tank, a sound card, or an effects unit?
what program you use for check delay?
au
where can we send the wave files? i don't see any links
What software name for check delay situation ?
Right?! I have a file, now need to do that step.
@MrWat I just found WavePad by NCH and in the view tab, select the wav file and choose frequency view and also multi channel view.
AU. Any array software that can view audio waveforms is available
@@M-VAVECan reaper do the job in viewing the delay?
@@guituh The AU we use
Why are you not using a re-amp box between the audio interface out and the pedal in? You're sending a line level signal to a pedal that is designed for an instrument level signal the way it's shown in the video. Noise is going to be a huge factor this way, isn't it?
I don't know how to connect the cable
I think it would be nice to show you how to plug the cable in the video.
It will work with amd gpus in the future ?
I get "couldn't open the input device" on all my usb interfaces. i have three of them, Sinco cant open any input.
They work fine in any DAW, and should be able to work with SincoANN, but the program is just bugged.
I have the 1.0.3 version.
Do you mean you can't load your effects sound?
@@M-VAVE No, i solved the problem, Windows hadn't migrated my USB audio drivers after updating, so it couldn't open the microphone input.
i reinstalled Windows, and now it works.
So i was now able to train a file, but the sound was not very good after 1000 epochs, but i have read that distorted sounds need much more training to sound good, so i will try again.
So it was not a problem with the SincoAnn program, i also had to take it out of the Programfiles 86 folder, cause the audiotrain.exe crashed when it was in there, also a Windows problem... Microsoft always messes up..
I am trying to make an ANN profile from amplitube and transfer it to my TANG-G but I can't do it. Thanks for your help
All of a sudden the AudioTrain app stopped creating folder and AM2 file. The Record part works fine it creates the WAV file in the folder. But its the AudioTrain that fails. I reinstalled the Program. it worked for about a week and then it just stopped. I even did a new windows install and reinstalled the Sinco app. but the AudioTrain part still fails. I even tried forcing the AudioTrain to run as Administrator. Any help would be appreciated
You can contact me on Facebook (M-VAVE Zhang) and send me a video of your question
Hi , i did all the steps but after the TRAIN preset,,... the BIOS only appears but never shows all the parameters if it is training it. It does not become an amp
You can learn exactly the same thing according to the video operation, or your file name is wrong.
What the best Sample Rate for the audio file? 44 or 48khz?
will a gtx 1070 suffice for training? it is somewhat comparable to 3060 but older. is there a diagram of the cable hookups ?
hi, mega don´t allow me to download withput paying, do you have any other link available?
Not yet,You can contact me on Facebook (M-VAVE Zhang)
you can use VPN when the limit is over
Any plans for Mac versions of the tank g and ANN softwares?
Not yet
@@M-VAVE bummer. It would be very handy.
Hi, can this use both outputs at same time (1/4" and XLR)?
thanks
no
how sould i load available for trial use
Timbre file ? when do it with m efects i got horrible noize
You can contact me on Facebook (M-VAVE Zhang) and send me a video of your question
Can you upload a tutorial on how to record the wave file so I can send it to you? since my computer does not meet the necessary requirements. thank you!
You can contact me on Facebook (M-VAVE Zhang)
When I click on "train" the prompt window appears, but the process does not start and then suddenly the prompt window closes 😢 What can I do?
Is your file named correctly, without any spaces, and a separate file name corresponds to a folder
@@M-VAVE Hi! Yes, the name of the wave file does not haver any space, and the folder has the same name of the wave file.
I made two profiles successfully, then this started to happen to me.
@@DoubleDguitar I solved this by creating the folder on the root of my D: disk.
@@luisnegrao4948 I just fixed it by creating a new folder, as well. I have to say, this is really cool. It takes a while with my slow computer, but it’s really great they gave us the access to the software.
Como faz para mudar , no meu caso na hota do train aparece CPU train e pra voces aparece GPU train , minha placa de video é AMD,como fazer o programa reconhecer ela...
I'm afraid AMD card is not supported yet (or maybe in the future soon). Best choice is using Nvidia GPU (because their using CUDA unit for computing)
After training, loss is .07 is that good?
ok
@@M-VAVEthanks for the reply, what can you change to make the capture more accurate to original sound?
@@lentonemusic Just follow the video to record
Hello there!
I cannot train after recording am2 or am3, the window(AudioTrainHHAG.exe) closes right after few seconds.
I managed to run that .exe on powershell, but it seems to have a default path on it. so, it also closes after a couple of seconds, but the log reads:
PS C:\Program Files (x86)\SincoAnn\AudioTrain> .\AudioTrainHHAG.exe
BatchSize : 1024
Times : 5000
Delay : 0
LRate : 0.001
Model : AM4
FilePath : D:\ckworkspace\training\gojira\gojira
ERROR: File doesn't exist or otherwise can't load file
D:\ckworkspace\training\gojira\gojira_am4.wav
error:D:\ckworkspace\training\gojira
D:\ckworkspace\training\gojira is error
can you guys help? love the blackbox so much, by the way... amazing product!
running the AudioTrain.exe, and not the AudioTrainHHAG.exe, on PS got the same behaviour, but the log then reads:
PS C:\Program Files (x86)\SincoAnn\AudioTrain> .\AudioTrain.exe
batchsize 1024
times 10
delay 0
lr 0.001
ERROR: File doesn't exist or otherwise can't load file
C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\NETURAL_Markbass_LMV_Flat_7\NETURAL_Markbass_LMV_Flat_7.wav
error:C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\NETURAL_Markbass_LMV_Flat_7
C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\NETURAL_Markbass_LMV_Flat_7 is error
Great update!!! Can I ask where is the link of the cloud storage? because my laptop can't meet the requirements. HAHAHAHAH
Just share it with us
@@M-VAVE How can I share it?
@@M-VAVEhow to send the archive?
@@profEdison Upload to your own cloud storage and share the link with me
@@guituh Upload to your own cloud storage and share the link with me
Thanks! What if i had already wavs of raw and reamp sound (another raw wav, from NAM for example).
Can i use them? Or only need to record my gear?
It's useful to add buttons to open reamped wav file instead of recording it.
And will there be some web page or cloud where users can share with their created ANNs?
great idea! But i think specific wave file "interrogates" analog effector and get some response. I think algoritm of program will absolete different if change analog effector to wav file with recorded analog effector.
But still, it should be great get raw guitar tone of band you like and teach this sound to the tank-g))
For train tone of your favourite band you will need their DI and Reamp files. Almost impossible to find them
Here i want to use di and reamp of NAM, proteus captures that i already got or can download. Or if i want to capture sound of my favourite vst amp - i can't just "record" in realtime, i need to export wav and then use it to train ANN
@@АндрейПолевой-я5и it would be great to know a way to put the tonex or nam profiles in it
What means ANN?
If loss is nan, what does it mean?
i was able to make 3 profiles no prob. after that i was getting nan as well :(
Does it only work with NVIDIA graphics?
There will be a video tutorial in the near future on how to train ANN when the graphics card does not meet the requirements.
Hi, i hope u can give me sime tips on how to improve my training results i always got 0.9 result. I have i5 cpu, 12gb ram and an entry level NVIDiA gpu. Thanks in advance.
It should be a problem with the recorded audio. You can try recording a few more times.
i cant download from mega
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can you transfer them to google drive, damn cant even download mega link :(
What problems did you encounter while downloading?
@@M-VAVE cant download from mega 😅
Coloca via web transfer pelo mega não tá indo.
Can't download?
Para min está normal.
liga a VPN quando acabar o limite
MegaUpload Link doesn't work Mate !!!!!!!!!😛😛😛
You can contact me on Facebook (M-VAVE Zhang)
No macOS app, right?
no
Is it work for Nvidia rtx 2060 6gb? If don't, how to make it worth? I want to buy tank g
th-cam.com/video/TpFPiGpNr6A/w-d-xo.html
You can train through web pages
It's amazing we can do this with budget pedals, but this tutorial is more confusing than helpful.
Olá, queria dar uma sugestão de melhora no aplicativo. A opção de reset all factory presets, poderia estar mais escondida, em uma outra aba talvez, ou então antes fa pessoa clicar lá, aparecer uma pergunta, se a pessoa tem certeza de que quer restaurar todos os presets. Eu digo isso porque eu perdi tudo, pela segunda vez, pelo simples fato de que meu dedo esbarrou sem querer. Essa opção poderia estar mais ((oculta)), porque qualquer toquezinho já apaga tudo, eu nem tinha salvado todos, e é a segunda vez que isso acontece... 🤦🏾♂️
Por favor, corrijam isso urgente! eu não tenho nem coragem de usar o aplicativo ao vivo, por conta dessa situação!
您好，我想提出改進應用程式的建議。重置所有出廠預設的選項可能會更加隱藏，可能在另一個選項卡中，或者在使用者點擊那裡之前，會出現一個問題，如果使用者確定要恢復所有預設。我這麼說是因為我第二次失去了一切，原因很簡單，我的手指不小心碰到了它。這個選項可以更多（（隱藏）），因為任何一點點的觸摸都會刪除所有內容，我什至都沒有保存它們，而且這是第二次發生這種情況......🤦🏾♂️
請緊急修復此問題！因為這種情況，我甚至沒有勇氣現場使用該應用程式！
as capturas também poderiam ser instalada via aplicativo celular, acho que vcs só ganhariam mas usuários, um produto descomplicado, onde todos poderiam ter a mesma condição de atualização desenvolvimento via aplicativo celular tem muitas pessoas que não tem pc
Agora a Nvidia se torna a maior empresa do planeta 😂😂