He wasn't even saying MVP or superbowl favorite, just very reasonable takes. And then some moron on there with him said it was a hot take and added no good defense to what he said, some people are just brain dead and all they do is repeat dumb, old narratives like Kellerman or Rob Parker and can't think on their own.
Can we at least talk about how incredible they support him? They took a different player and made a completely new offense based on him and completely maximized his strengths. This is what happens when a generational talent goes to the perfect team that supports them.
Exactly, Greg Roman helped to take Kaep to a super bowl. Back then we had a huge oline, our own TE trio with Vernon Davis, Vance Mcdonald, and Delanie Walker. We had an all time great power back in his prime. We had Boldin at receiver. What we didn't have was a 300 pound full back, and a 230+ pound wide receiver and a dynamic speedster at receiver. We took Ted Ginn and the full forgot his hands back in Ohio.
He's better than Vick, Better than Kaepernick. Perfect blend of pocket passer and also the best athlete every down every game. We have never seen this before.
@M R yes don't get too caught up on proving doubters wrong and just play the game. People get hurt running drills in practice, i.e. teddy Bridgewater FootbAll is. Contact sport. Much rather hit it big than be a Dan fouts, Philip rivers, Dan Marino etc. You have to know the game to comment on it accurately.
IDK about better than Vick but they are built way better around Lamar and you have a great combination of a generational talent in the perfect system for him.
If Lamar played every fourth quarter he’d probably have 3500 in the air and 1500 yards on the ground in 16 games! He’s a guy that can give you 5k yards. That’s insane!
Take it from the Louisville fans. We are witnessing the greatest athlete to ever play the game. The most electrifying football player in the history of the sport. He’s been making so called football experts look like fools since high school. If this guy played at Clemson or Alabama, LSU anywhere that could have provided a good Oline and he would have every quarterback and running back record in college football. With a mediocre line at Louisville he won a Heisman.
"Running QBs playing style won't last", when they get hit and loose their running ability, can they sit in the pocket and rely on their arms rather than their legs?...duh! What if the so-called "pocket passer" gets hits so bad (cause ALL QBs get hit), will he become a "running QB"?... oh nope, he just won't be able to play anymore? - There I say, Andrew Luck!
You are wrong the era of stationary pocket quarterbacks is ending. Even if some of these duel threat quarterbacks have shorter careers. I watch highschool football duel threat is what's going on. Plenty of quarterbacks are hurt sitting in the pocket anyway
@@LoonieGoon3r yes but these quarterbacks are so dangerous impossible to defend. If you get 7 ir 8 great years from them instead of 12 or mire. Then so be it. Great draft choice anyway
@@allensaunders449 EXACTLY! That's why I think all these "Running QBs won't last" debates don't make any sense to me. It's the NFL, EVERYONE GETS HIT! If you're lucky to be in the league for 10 years, you're blessed.
Rich been down with LJ from the jump and the Flock appreciates it. Now on the flip side there are a lot of you soft troll types in the comments wishing for him to get hurt and trying to pull any random stat you can to back up your stupid claims of him not being as good as what your eyes are seeing. EVERY PLAYER IS AT RISK OF GETTING INJURED ON EVERY SINGLE PLAY IN WHICH THEY ARE ON AN NFL FIELD! Multiple players have injured themselves celebrating, holding the ball too long in the pocket, in the practice drills, etc. Unless youre a steelers, browns, or bengals fan or a sad little racist POS you have no reason to hate the guy or wish injury upon him. just enjoy the show.
This is how you tell it like it is! No basis'. Just facts! And when Rich tosses those glasses and/or pen gently...he's about to set the record straight.
Yeah they hated on Cam too and now he's consider a has been since everyone is on the Lamar Jackson ( make him a wide receiver and he can't throw) Bandwagon
People keep talking about hits as if a stationary quarterback doesn't get hit...Joe Thiesman was running when LT broke his leg. Dan Marino had a bad ankle because of hits in the pocket. When John Elway was hit in the Super bowl, where his body spent like a helicopter rotor blade , folks praised him for his greatness. Big Ben takes hits in the pocket all the time but that's ok? The league set up a system of Pocket passers, the time for them has now passed. More athletic QBs of Any race will now become a premium in the NFL as they should. The has already done all that they could to protect the pocket passer, creating rules to benefit them and the receivers that they throw to... Where about to see a era of football based on individual talents not arbitrary rules to benefit a selected position.
I don't think the time of pocket passers have passed, there will be more mobile QBs yes, but Lamar is one of a kind. Pocket QBs will still be around because if you get an elite passer and draft/trade for an elite o-line, defense can still be picked apart. Not every team could set up like that but there will be a few.
@@EM-vw7im I hear you but my point is Pocket passers are becoming more mobile. It ridiculous for any QB to stand there a take a hit for the team. Especially when there's no one open but there's a path to positive yards if he's able to run. The NFL has already created all these rules to benefit the QBS and recievers. Mainly because they glorified the sack. A mobile pocket passers don't get sacked as often and all of their talents are being utilized, which is good for the NFL fans. I've been a fan myself for more than fifty years, the change is coming :-)
Also, Lamar Jackson has missed the 4t Quarter in the last 3 Games! Soon, Lamar Jackson will have played 1 less game than all fulltime Starting Quarterbacks!
@@jtwestful Not sure I get your point. Defenses adjust by using different schemes that expose a particular player's weaknesses. I don't see how it makes a difference whether a team adjusts over the course of a season or an offseason
chaosawaits i get your point, but lamar isn’t a rookie either. teams have his tape already but this is just the result of him getting better every week as a passer and reading defenses at a very high level
@@yslzack so next season it will be a question whether he plays more like his first season or his second. Do defenses adjust to his adjustments and force him to regress or does he continue on to greatness?
How did Lamar play in "5" STRAIGHT games before these last 4 games?...Those 5 straight games dont count?...He was below average to AWFUL in those games..."4" Total TDs and "5" INTs"....Sports media is carelessly and ignorantly using a small small "4" game sample to label Lamars Greatness and legacy...How can you say he is the BEST to EVER do it at his position based on such a small 4 game sample?....Come on...Sports media is so reckless
You're leaving off a lot of stats with those "5" games. He had 7 total TDs, 3 were rushing, over 400 rushing yards, went 3-2 as a team including a win in Seattle. Add that plus the dolphin and Cardinals games you purposely left out, and the aforementioned 4 straight amazing games and yes, he is amazing
@@huntermorris7421 Not leaving anything out...Point was that he was NOT great during that 5 game stretch...Media using his last "4" games to label him...Lets see how he does in the playoffs...
@joe chrow You're purposely leaving out his total TDs in those games, his rushing stats, the fact he went 3-2 in those games, the fact that hes 22, the dolphins game (perfect passer rating) and cardinals game all to try to make a point that isnt there. Youre a fuckin clown, stop it.
James Harrison said every time the QB shows option read, he now becomes a runner and they are taught to hit the QB no matter if he hands it off or keeps. They’ll think twice about running option read all night
Not every player can be tom brady playing for decades. If Lamar plays for 8 years, wins an MVP maybe wins a SB too, and then get's injured and has to retire that's still a great career. Just enjoy what you're seeing from his play, it's never been done before.
@michael Castle Pretty soon when (you) people realize everytime someone steps on the football field they're at risk of not playing another down, the better.
Rich my guy, he never dogged lamar like most pundits did. But all yaull wanna hop on the band wagon now naaa keep that same energy you had when you said he cant throw the football. I think a lot of folks forget the fact that last year he came in and took over offense that was designed for Joe Flacco now we're seeing what can happen with the whole offseason to prepare an offense for Lamar skill set us Ravens fans were the only ones who knew this was going to happen but he's Beyond exceeded all of our expectations
Rich Eisen was on our side day one, so he’s the GOAT, RESPECT
Factss
Absolutely. For many years
He wasn't even saying MVP or superbowl favorite, just very reasonable takes. And then some moron on there with him said it was a hot take and added no good defense to what he said, some people are just brain dead and all they do is repeat dumb, old narratives like Kellerman or Rob Parker and can't think on their own.
Ryan Hardison so pretty much everyone except rich, Chris Berman, a few others...
Yes indeed he's definitely a real 1
Can we at least talk about how incredible they support him? They took a different player and made a completely new offense based on him and completely maximized his strengths. This is what happens when a generational talent goes to the perfect team that supports them.
Exactly, Greg Roman helped to take Kaep to a super bowl. Back then we had a huge oline, our own TE trio with Vernon Davis, Vance Mcdonald, and Delanie Walker. We had an all time great power back in his prime. We had Boldin at receiver. What we didn't have was a 300 pound full back, and a 230+ pound wide receiver and a dynamic speedster at receiver. We took Ted Ginn and the full forgot his hands back in Ohio.
He has sat out the 4th quarter of 5 games this year.. He's basically sat out a game
He's better than Vick, Better than Kaepernick. Perfect blend of pocket passer and also the best athlete every down every game. We have never seen this before.
@M R yes don't get too caught up on proving doubters wrong and just play the game. People get hurt running drills in practice, i.e. teddy Bridgewater
FootbAll is. Contact sport. Much rather hit it big than be a Dan fouts, Philip rivers, Dan Marino etc. You have to know the game to comment on it accurately.
IDK about better than Vick but they are built way better around Lamar and you have a great combination of a generational talent in the perfect system for him.
He will be doing this for over a decade. Just a fact. Get use to it.
If Lamar played every fourth quarter he’d probably have 3500 in the air and 1500 yards on the ground in 16 games! He’s a guy that can give you 5k yards. That’s insane!
If the ravens win the SB Rich Eisen deserves a ring he's been on our wagon since the offseason
Take it from the Louisville fans. We are witnessing the greatest athlete to ever play the game. The most electrifying football player in the history of the sport. He’s been making so called football experts look like fools since high school. If this guy played at Clemson or Alabama, LSU anywhere that could have provided a good Oline and he would have every quarterback and running back record in college football. With a mediocre line at Louisville he won a Heisman.
Lamar Jackson runs like Gale Sayers the Kansas Comet from the University of Kansas an the Chicago Bears during the 1960's
"Running QBs playing style won't last", when they get hit and loose their running ability, can they sit in the pocket and rely on their arms rather than their legs?...duh! What if the so-called "pocket passer" gets hits so bad (cause ALL QBs get hit), will he become a "running QB"?... oh nope, he just won't be able to play anymore? - There I say, Andrew Luck!
You are wrong the era of stationary pocket quarterbacks is ending. Even if some of these duel threat quarterbacks have shorter careers. I watch highschool football duel threat is what's going on. Plenty of quarterbacks are hurt sitting in the pocket anyway
@@allensaunders449 That's the point I was making though.
@@LoonieGoon3r yes but these quarterbacks are so dangerous impossible to defend. If you get 7 ir 8 great years from them instead of 12 or mire. Then so be it. Great draft choice anyway
@@allensaunders449 EXACTLY! That's why I think all these "Running QBs won't last" debates don't make any sense to me. It's the NFL, EVERYONE GETS HIT! If you're lucky to be in the league for 10 years, you're blessed.
The NFL didn't start out with pocket passers and it won't finish with pocket passers.
Rich been down with LJ from the jump and the Flock appreciates it. Now on the flip side there are a lot of you soft troll types in the comments wishing for him to get hurt and trying to pull any random stat you can to back up your stupid claims of him not being as good as what your eyes are seeing. EVERY PLAYER IS AT RISK OF GETTING INJURED ON EVERY SINGLE PLAY IN WHICH THEY ARE ON AN NFL FIELD! Multiple players have injured themselves celebrating, holding the ball too long in the pocket, in the practice drills, etc. Unless youre a steelers, browns, or bengals fan or a sad little racist POS you have no reason to hate the guy or wish injury upon him. just enjoy the show.
This is how you tell it like it is! No basis'. Just facts! And when Rich tosses those glasses and/or pen gently...he's about to set the record straight.
I'm a Ravens fan but people are not giving Cam Newton his credit.
Yeah they hated on Cam too and now he's consider a has been since everyone is on the Lamar Jackson ( make him a wide receiver and he can't throw) Bandwagon
Cam has had some great years, no doubt. But right now, LJ is looking better than Cam ever has.
Lamar is easy The worst 4 th quater, qb i have ever Seen ,iits like He gets invisible after The 3rd quater
Bust
lol...he is chillin wit duh boys on the sideline,,,love him.
BWAHHHHHH!
But they are saying he's the best they have ever seen at certain things. Them or you? Tough decision.
Lol
I fw rich
Looks are Deceiving.... He's much stronger than he looks....😮
Haters job is to hate they can't help it.
How is being realistic being a hater
People keep talking about hits as if a stationary quarterback doesn't get hit...Joe Thiesman was running when LT broke his leg.
Dan Marino had a bad ankle because of hits in the pocket.
When John Elway was hit in the Super bowl, where his body spent like a helicopter rotor blade , folks praised him for his greatness.
Big Ben takes hits in the pocket all the time but that's ok?
The league set up a system of Pocket passers, the time for them has now passed.
More athletic QBs of Any race will now become a premium in the NFL as they should.
The has already done all that they could to protect the pocket passer, creating rules to benefit them and the receivers that they throw to...
Where about to see a era of football based on individual talents not arbitrary rules to benefit a selected position.
I don't think the time of pocket passers have passed, there will be more mobile QBs yes, but Lamar is one of a kind. Pocket QBs will still be around because if you get an elite passer and draft/trade for an elite o-line, defense can still be picked apart. Not every team could set up like that but there will be a few.
@@EM-vw7im I hear you but my point is Pocket passers are becoming more mobile.
It ridiculous for any QB to stand there a take a hit for the team.
Especially when there's no one open but there's a path to positive yards if he's able to run.
The NFL has already created all these rules to benefit the QBS and recievers.
Mainly because they glorified the sack.
A mobile pocket passers don't get sacked as often and all of their talents are being utilized, which is good for the NFL fans.
I've been a fan myself for more than fifty years, the change is coming :-)
Also, Lamar Jackson has missed the 4t Quarter in the last 3 Games!
Soon, Lamar Jackson will have played 1 less game than all fulltime Starting Quarterbacks!
Yes, the last 3 in a row, but dont forger he sat week 1 vs Miami
@@louistate3774,
Thanks, my badd! So, Lamar is already down 1 game. Throw a few stat categories out then.
He has the physical ability. The only question now is whether he can adjust his style of play when defenses adjust to him next season.
The problem is...how do they "adjust"? They don't see him for 16 games.
@@jtwestful good point here!
@@jtwestful Not sure I get your point. Defenses adjust by using different schemes that expose a particular player's weaknesses. I don't see how it makes a difference whether a team adjusts over the course of a season or an offseason
chaosawaits i get your point, but lamar isn’t a rookie either. teams have his tape already but this is just the result of him getting better every week as a passer and reading defenses at a very high level
@@yslzack so next season it will be a question whether he plays more like his first season or his second. Do defenses adjust to his adjustments and force him to regress or does he continue on to greatness?
How did Lamar play in "5" STRAIGHT games before these last 4 games?...Those 5 straight games dont count?...He was below average to AWFUL in those games..."4" Total TDs and "5" INTs"....Sports media is carelessly and ignorantly using a small small "4" game sample to label Lamars Greatness and legacy...How can you say he is the BEST to EVER do it at his position based on such a small 4 game sample?....Come on...Sports media is so reckless
You're leaving off a lot of stats with those "5" games. He had 7 total TDs, 3 were rushing, over 400 rushing yards, went 3-2 as a team including a win in Seattle. Add that plus the dolphin and Cardinals games you purposely left out, and the aforementioned 4 straight amazing games and yes, he is amazing
@@huntermorris7421 Not leaving anything out...Point was that he was NOT great during that 5 game stretch...Media using his last "4" games to label him...Lets see how he does in the playoffs...
@@joechrow8341 Joe...he's 22. Stop.
@@joechrow8341 you stated only the bad so yes you did and he is gonna be MVP at age 22 so you tell me
@joe chrow You're purposely leaving out his total TDs in those games, his rushing stats, the fact he went 3-2 in those games, the fact that hes 22, the dolphins game (perfect passer rating) and cardinals game all to try to make a point that isnt there. Youre a fuckin clown, stop it.
He survived that hit, but if they keep playing him like that, a team is going to smash him regardless of whether they get a penalty or not.
Yeah I have to admit as a die hard fan he took a couple unnecessary hits this game. More than what I’m used to seeing
I agree. They were just diving at his legs too as the game wore on too.
Nightcore Newbie slide Lamar. Football is so boring without you in it
James Harrison said every time the QB shows option read, he now becomes a runner and they are taught to hit the QB no matter if he hands it off or keeps. They’ll think twice about running option read all night
@@ja1720 you have to get behind the o-line to do that
These are all the things people said about Cam Newton. Lamar is headed down the same road.
Nah, Lamar will be running for a few more years until the big contract. Cam didn't calm down until that happened, neither did Vick or Wilson.
Cam played 8 season also Lamar is already a better passer then Newton.
So the mvp superbowl road?
@@ChrisH421 also the road that ends too early, unfortunately. History tells us that running Qb's don't last.
Not every player can be tom brady playing for decades. If Lamar plays for 8 years, wins an MVP maybe wins a SB too, and then get's injured and has to retire that's still a great career. Just enjoy what you're seeing from his play, it's never been done before.
He's an ACL from being his current backup RG3 - lets see him win a playoff game before his coronation is complete
Every player in the NFL is one ACL tear away from being not as effective as they are today. Miss me with that bullshit.
@@geekwithaswagger Exactly what a clown, look at Matt skura, every play is dangerous
Like Tom Brady, Trent Green,etc. Or even Mahoney getting injured on a QB sneak...
michael Castle just say you’re racist and go...
@michael Castle Pretty soon when (you) people realize everytime someone steps on the football field they're at risk of not playing another down, the better.
Rich my guy, he never dogged lamar like most pundits did. But all yaull wanna hop on the band wagon now naaa keep that same energy you had when you said he cant throw the football. I think a lot of folks forget the fact that last year he came in and took over offense that was designed for Joe Flacco now we're seeing what can happen with the whole offseason to prepare an offense for Lamar skill set us Ravens fans were the only ones who knew this was going to happen but he's Beyond exceeded all of our expectations
Bro, only the true who saw him in college know. Man, it's something we have never seen.
@@panache8722 factsss
😂😂 he has more pass td than rush td and People want him to get hurt smh