WHY IS MY DEFAULT TENNIS STRING TENSION 48 POUNDS
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My idea is to play with the heaviest frame you can handle and go as loose with string you can handle.
Best advice :)
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So I have had to change string tensions and types over the last 8 years of playing due to arm problems and moving to very different places. When I was in Texas with high humidity and being less than 800 ft above sea level i would get mine done at about 48-52. When I moved to Las Vegas that was way to low as I was hitting the fence more times then the court. Vegas is anywhere from 2000 to 2300 ft above sea level with no humidity so I started to have string higher from 54-58. It is always fascinating to hear you talk about the differences in strings since a few pounds can play dramatically different or similar depending on where you play. Love the videos!
That doesn't really make sense because the ball travels further in humid air. Seems like low altitude with no humidity and low altitude with high humidity should offset.
Alupower 48 mains 47 cross @ 2002 Babolat Pure Drive Team Lethal Weapon
Hi 👋 one question, Do vibrators repercute on string tension ?? Thanks …
What is best multifilament for Wilson Clash 100 and what tension? Thanks
Is it true that the racquet loses 10% of its tension as soon as u start playing with it or even as soon as it taken off the machine. So, I suppose u have to compensate for that.
What is your standard tension when useing multis? I play polys at 48pound and want to experiment with gamma multis. What tension should I start with? Thank you! Great channel!
I string my Pure Aero Tour with Hyper-g 115 at 50/48 lbs in summer, 48/46 lbs in winter. A bit lower in crosses increases a bit the spin potential, and slightly softer on the arm. And I like the thinner string, it feels livelier and softer.
Do a video on how to prepare for a tournament and what you should carry in your bag to match
when i was 30 i liked 60 pounds as i aged i am 60 now with arm/shoulder problems multifilament tecnifibre is my string and 45 pounds feels great and easier on the arm...greetings !
you are right
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I’ve been doing the same (48lbs) for full bed poly on my Pro staff 97 for years. Now, I’m doing Main:49, Cross:47. It seems to give me slightly bigger sweet spot.
It also depends on your string density. 48lbs on 18x20 will have more control than in a 16x19 bed.
So, it's roughly 22kg's in European tennis talk.
Shouldn't it depends on string pattern, head size, type of string (soft, medium or stiff poly), string gauge, poly on mains or cross (for hybrid), etc?
Exactly right!
Test string is Polyfibre Cobra 1.25. Very very soft poly, more than most multis. 48 mains with 50 in the crosses to lock the stringbed on a 16x19 100sq” (like a Clash, to lower the trajectory). Or 46lbs in 18x20 or smaller head size to get the same feel.
You are right. In my case, I like to string my gravity pro at 45 lbs and I know it's a 18x20 100 in² frame.
If I'm testing a smaller headsize with the same string pattern, I may go 1 or 2 lbs lower to see if I get simillar feel.
If I'm testing a 16x19 smaller headsize I may stick to the same tension as my gravity, and so on and so forth.
Considering head size and pattern probably wouldn’t even use the same gauge let alone tension of string....
Jack Sock is a great dude FYI. Met him at Winnetka Challenger. Couldn't be nicer. He is in my Winnetka HOF along w Michael Russell, Maurice Ruah, Gianluca Pozzi, and the beast Max Mirnyi
against a hard-hitting flat opponent : 55 lb
against a moderate-power topspin opponent : 51 lb
wall practice : < 50 lb
If you're pro then the opponent's hitting style matters. If you're amateur, your opponents are not gonna be good enough to hit hard or serve hard and win. So just string at the tension you're comfortable with.
I string at 50lbs, its easier for me to hit deep with a lower string tension
But head size also matters when deciding tension
48 on a poly or 48 on a synthetic, there is a substantial difference. Confidential is a poly. So, what would be your go to tension on a synthetic string?
48?!?!?!?! Court better have extra high fences😂😂😂😂😂
Not if you can control your shots.
Yeah! 😂
With modern polyester strings, 48 is pretty normal. Back in the dinosaur days of synthetic guts string were strung at 60.
It's about the stringbed stiffness, not the tension that is important. You may need stringbed stiffness machine to test the stringbed for your clients. It will be very useful when they (or you) would like to try different strings (stiffer, softer) or racquet headsizes, string patterns that you have the stringbed stiffness (DT value in kg/cm) as the reference to adjust the tension. 48lbs of natural guts is completely different from stiff polys and it might give you inaccurate judgement to the strings :-D.
One important parameter of the strings that tennis manufacturers try to hide to the elongation of the strings. Less elongation -> stiffer (poly like). More elongation -> softer (natural gut like). Also at different tension ranges, strings elongate differently (tend to elongate less or more) that directly affect the stringbed stiffness.
My tension varies depending on the size of the racquet head, how dense the string pattern is, how stiff and powerful the racquet is and - most importantly - the type of string that I am using. Usually I string in the exact middle of the suggested range if I am using a synthetic gut. For a multifilament, I would up the mid tension by 2 lbs. as that type of string has a lot of power. If I string with a polyester then I drop the mid tension by 5 lbs. because that type of string is very stiff. Lately, I have been moving towards the softer synthetic gut like Ashaway but I also like Gamma synthetic gut. If the frame has an open 16 x 18/19 string pattern then I will use Gamma synthetic gut with Wearguard. I like Head Lynx polyester in 16 gauge also.
Funny. Ive gone down in tension over the years and i know a lot of other players that have done the same. When i was really young, i would have never strung in the mid 40s.
It’s because people are switching to polys from syn or multi.
Your elbow and your shoulder were also younger :))
Same here, when I was 14 I would have mine between 58-60kg, now low 40s.
@@cesarpahl4987 kg or lbs?
@@micah_wong my bad, lbs 😅
Thank you for the info ONCE again Harry. I used to think stringing my stick under 56lbs was a crime against tennis. Like your thoughts/ideas/experience
Under 53lbs, longs start moving. I do 54/53 in a RF 97. Used to do 62lbs in college.
Dustin Brown has a arm of steel to use a 70 pound tension with lux Lau power. Holy cow!
I am mid fifties for synthetic and mid forties for soft poly and 40 with traditional poly with a 95 sq inch head. Head size makes a difference for tension consistency. 😉😊
Mine is hyper tension
I’m a 4.0-4.5 and I play with a Wilson ProStaff with NXT Comfort 17 at 55. I like how it plays but not how often I have to restring.
If I hit with multi I would break strings every 20 minutes. On some racquets I put multi filament (gamma pro) on the crosses and luxilon on the mains and that lasts a while.
I play 53 pounds tension with solinco confidential but my wrist and shoulder are starting to hurt more frequently so I’m strongly debating if I want to move down to a 45
Agree with others. By maintaining the same string and tension as your preferred racquet in the other frames, you get to really see what the frame is doing. Great job!!! I have test tons of strings and hybrid combos, and my fav is STILL: Tecnifiber Black Code 18 in the mains at 48lbs and Prince Premier Power (former LT) in the crosses at 50lbs.
Used 47lbs for a full poly but having gravitated towards tighter pattern/thinner beam racquets, now prefer multi or gut on mains so typically start with 52 mains, 48 poly crosses and take it from there... need comfort and some power from strings
I’ve been doing a lot of experimenting on strings and tensions. For 4.0+ players: Synthetic gut full bed and multis full bed, don’t go under 55lbs on any racquet with a stiffness higher than 65(pure drive). It will be a rocket launcher if you go lower.
Co-poly full bed I could do 52lbs
co-poly mains 54/multi or synthetic cross at 52.
String pattern and weather is a huge factor also. During the heatwave here in LA, anything under 54lbs in the daytime is causing the ball to fly so easily in a 16x19 but is doable in a 18x20 frame.
I've got a rf97, which is very stiff and I have x-one at 52 and a soft co poly at 55 and I can confirm its a rocket launcher
@@harrywardle4594 Softer string (Multi or SGut) on the Main at lower tension is generally a rocket launcher :)... are those each full bed X1 and co-poly? try 56 or higher for X1...
55 sounds ok for the co-poly, but maybe you should looks for a stiffer Poly string...hope it helps
I use a Wilson six.one which has a stiffness of ~67 and I string low 40s. You just need to hit with topspin.
Samantha Harner what string setup are you hitting with? What’s your string pattern? You are correct that I could probably hit with more topspin although I’d like to think I have a modern windshield wiper fh that generates topspin 😅
@@sunny051488 16x18. I use a string called gosen polylon comfort 16.
Thanks for the tips. Not sure about using the same tension to compare rackets though. If the rackets are similar then sure, but if they are very different then maybe the tensions should be adjusted. For example I used to play with a pro staff 90 at 45 lbs. But if I switch to a RF97, I probably should start at 50 or 52 just because it's a very different racket.
I string my donnay allwood with 34/38 with Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable and Weiss Cannon Red Ghost. Gives me great feel, spin and power
Interesting comment. I'm a hybrid guy. I love to experiment with mixes. My starting tension is 50 pounds, whatever the string may be. But I always go up when we play outdoor in the summer, especially if we have hot weather(June, July and August). As soon as we reach September, I go down to my original tension(between 48 and 52). Having 4 racquets, I always have one that's low(48) and one that's higher(52) with 2 racquets of the same tension(around 50). This way, I adapt to the conditions and to my OWN condition....
48lbs on my RF97 with Solinco Hyper G👌🏻
That is a classic string! 48 is loose, you must hit a lot of deep shots! 🔥🎾
Ive tried about 15 different rackets, 20 ish sets of strings, and a tonne of different tensions,
My current set up is
Head Prestige MP with Natural gut mains at 57lbs and Pro Hurricane Tour crosses at 54lbs.
Its taken me over a year to refine it to something I’m 99% happy with.
Owning my own Stringing machine certainly helps in this process too.
My set up is, 22kg/49lbs with Yonex Polytoure pro 18 gauge. But recently i move to multi filament so my tension goes up yo 24kg/53lbs.
No right or wrong, depends on the feel you like and what racket you use. As your skills and power improve the likelihood is an increase in tension. As you age and fitness drops with a hurting elbow, the likelihood is that the tension drops. Thats my personal experience playing tennis for over 30yrs. Using natural during competitive days to multifilaments in my later years and currently polys for bit more spin, despite the slight elbow pain. I have 3 Pure Aeros, and i string 52, 53, 54 on 17 gauge Rpm Blast black. I choose which i prefer depending on my condition on play day. 😎😁 in my younger days, 20-30yrs ago, i string between 56 to 60lbs on various rackets
You know nothing Harry. RF98 with 65lbs poly is where it's at!
57lbs mains with Alu Power, 60lbs crosses with NXT, 18x20 racket (Head Speed Pro with quite some extra lead). 360g SW, so I don't need lower tension to generate power and I prefer control, a lot of it.
In my youth, I played with a Yonex rexking 23 at 68lb.
I do 45 lbs for power rackets and make it lower for my control rackets (42-44 lbs).
I have been slowly going down in tension, started stringing at 55, then 53 now I think I'll do 52 (rpm blast 17 on a pure areo). I also have 2 rackets and rotate playing with each one so they lose tension together. Does mean I have to be a bit careful as they will both break at about the same time.
I use 48 pounds too for the main. 46 for the cross. This is for 97 square inch racket. For 93 square inch, I adjust it down to 45. For 85 square inch, 42. Full poly.
I'm a intermediate woman and I like my stings between 48 and 49
Harry: Is there an inexpensive way to calibrate a drop weight stringing machine?
Wilson Blade 16x19 v7 NXT 16g mains at 57, Ace 18g poly crosses at 47. Sweet.
Head Gravity Pro with lead between 11-1, 342gr strung, I play with full Western grip ( grew up playing on clay ), solinco hyper G 17g, started at 50lbs then 48lbs now 45lbs and am going to 42lbs just before the winter arrives in the UK. Probably will stick to 42-43lbs from now on as it is the best for my game, I have been playing for 25 years and only been recent since I started trying different rackets and string set up, my game has definitely improved in the last 12 months. Any thoughts on which type of ALU Power to try on the gravity pro ?
Gravity MP Natural Gut Sergetti pattern 51lbs!
Babolat VS, Babolat Pure Aero, Solinco Hyper G @52 lbs.
Depends a little bit on the gauge.. I play with 48 pounds on 1.2mm (17) solinco tour bite and 51 pounds on a 1.15mm (18) solinco confidential when it is in the main. The cross I always string 2kg less (about 4 pounds). This gives it a nicer stringbed as the racket is a 16x19 or 18x20 pattern. More strings on the cross equals lower tension in my rackets to have an equal balance between mains and crosses.
Dustin Brown @ 70! Is that before or after he smokes it up ?
48 lbs, is that for both main & cross? I found the right harmonic with my Radical Pro & Völkl Cyclone 16L at 48/45 lbs, no pre-stretch. One time with wrist injury, I found that I can go as low as 28 lbs & with control, except that boing-ing spring sound did really annoy other people.
Alu Power. Full bed. 50 lbs. going both directions.
wow this video is very insightful. I am an intermediate player borderling advanced, but I always use 56/54 on any racquet. I have used Pure Strike, Pure Drive and Pro Staff (11.3 oz version) in the past. I demoed Pure Strike and I thought it was great, so I bought one and it was strung at 56/54, but it was a horrible experience. I left the racquet untouched for almost two years, I took it out this summer, it has been amazing since the tension has dropped significantly. I recently restrung my Pure Drive at 56/54, it's still too high, I don't even want to play matches with it.
Now I know why!
I get why you stick at a certain tension. but why 48?
Pure Aero w/ Solinco Confidential 18 g @ 50....spin, power, control and easy on arm
Very good advice. I play full bed poly @40lbs or lower still with thinner gauge strings, so I'm fully in the Jack Sock camp. The challenge with lower tension setup is to consistently hit the ball early so ultimately, it teaches you better skills with the added comfort and safety from elbow and shoulder injuries.
So may I ask about the recommendation that put on tennis racquet like 50-70 for example if we string lose like 48 is it goin to be effect that the racquet will not work if below or higher recommend thank you
Bjorn Borg 80 pounds with natural gut..
Prince CTS 110 from the 80's I string with Prince ProBlend at 62 lbs.
I go Luxilon Element 16L on my mains at 54 and Babolat Synth on crosses at 58... Makes the entire bed a little more responsive, not as stiff and a little cheaper each racket too :). It's right that you have to gauge what tension the strings will perform best at, and experimenting is fun!
Also a side note, if you are gonna be hitting hard at a low tension, your racket control needs to be really tuned in! That's why pros can play on crazy low tensions... they have perfect timing, hit the sweet spot every time and brush over the ball to keep it in... not intuitively... much harder to do than go high tension and bang!
i usually always restring my blade at 55 ....might go a little looser next time 51-53. Im also a fan of the NXT 16g strings
Thanks for the information..
In fact I also keep 48 pounds in my rackets.. if polyester
RF97A 52/48 Natural/LuxAlu
I'm 47, but 48 could be the ticket.
52 pounds full bed of RPM blast on the RF97A and Yonex Ezone DR98
Stiff poly mains, soft poly crosses. 27 lbs.
I've been using a Head Graphene 360 Radical Pro for close to a year now and for a control racquet I'm liking it at 47lbs. I've tried it with Wilson NXT at 53lbs and thought it was okay, Tourna Big Hitter Black 7 at 51lbs and hated it, Solinco HyperG at 47lbs and enjoyed it and am now using Solinco Confidential at 47lbs and so far it's my favorite. At lower tension I get better pocketing and feel.
Dear Harry,
Thank you so much for this interesting content 😊
Would it be possible for the next video to address the issue of players who want to lower the weight of the Pro Staff 97 Federer @ 340 grams? As its a nice racket to have but heavy for most players, what possible ways could someone do to lower its weight ?
🎾
would love to hear that too 👍🏻
Get sand paper and take some material off....
Same here!
Wouldn't advise hacking up a premium racquet. Just find another stick that meets your needs
I have asked Wilson and this is their reply:
Wilson reply: "The only way to reduce the weight of a racket, is to cut out the headguard and remove all unnecessary parts of grips (and put a synthetic grip maybe). But as a brand, and for warranty and security reasons, we don't recommend to do that. Is up to you to decide but remember that any modification is not covered under warranty is you have an issue."
A video would be much appreciated :)
54/52.5 head lynx tour on a new head extreme MP. Fresh off the stringer. 10% pre-stretch
"what color's your tension"
How do you play with looser tension if the strings are sliding all over the place
Certain strings like Wilson NXT springs right back in place so no need to straighten them with fingers.
I’m 57 now but I have been playing Wilson Prostaff 90 at 58-62 pounds. I love Dustin Brown’s control over Jack Socks’ power.
I’m a USTA 4.5 player
RIP your arm
I recently played a tournament and the weather here was freezing so I decided to string one of my racquets at 47 that being the lowest I had ever gone. I was not used to this so I didn’t use it in the tournament (but I should have) later I take my time with it and got used to it and decided that I absolutely loved it.
You mentioned in your 'Prince' video that stringers sell rackets.
Well in my case, not only did the stringer sell me the rackets, he sold me on the strings and tension (58 on main and 55 on the cross).
I have learned to play with this setup on the 'Banana' (RPM blast / TNT) and just stick to it.
Low tensions on a raquet like that makes it uncontrollable imvho. I would stick with it.
@@fingersm thanks Frank, going to stick with the tried and trusted.
my default is 59lbs
My advice is to string at the lowest tension you can control. I used to have arm problems but since stringing at 45 lbs I have been fine. That's on a Wilson steam 105s with a 16x15 string pattern! Mind you I do play with heaps of spin and I restring often.
55-57lbs pure drive , alu power
Lately I've been stringing my blade at 51 pounds. I strung the head lynx edge and loving it
What string?
I string my rackets @ 59 pounds with a poly, haven't have any issues, I love it! ❤🎾💥
U must know how to play. Only weak players string low with soft polys! My arm hurst with soft low poly strings idgaf whatbothers say
Why not just use a board?
I’m 15 and string my racquet at 56 and most of my friends like 55 to 57
I love 48 pounds in my Clash 100L with Luxilon Smart...great tip thank you!
I string my own racquets so have been able to play around with strings and tension. I too found 48 lbs is my magic number no matter the string. I use to play 62-64 lbs 18X20 dunlop 200Gs to 16X19 dunlop 200 cx tour with syn gut. mid 50's with polys. When I switched to the 16X19 98 blades & started using polys (tour bite) poly/hybrids I found 48 lbs no matter the string is my magic tension best balance of power. control and sweet spot for me. I hit mostly aggressive full throttle topspin. find it a little harder to control blocked shots and flat volleys but have adjusted love the feel and results at 48lbs the ball really jumps off the court. I feel really connected to the ball at this tension.
WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF YOU CAN string a vintage Wilson T2000 racquet and comment on it after hitting with it. MANY STRINGERS HAVE NO CLUE today how to string such racquets have you ever strung one?
advise for babolat pure drive 2021 with hyper g soft or confidential i'm used to 55/25kg but i think maybe too high for these strings...
what tension for multi e.g. NRG2 on Babolat Pure Drive. Mostly baseliner, Hits hard. Topspin. NRTP 4.5 60 yo.
Like that T-Shirt.
pounds and libras are de same (tension)?
Sisi
Same 48 😃
I string Solinco Confidential 17g at 52...on a Yonex Ezone 98+. But needs 2 hrs breaking in...before is comfortably playable.
40 LB is my best tension. Jack Sack play not good right now, the tension is big problem. If he use 40 LB, he will win one grand slam single title. I am 100% sure.
Great video/advice.
BTW Dustin Brown strings his Luxilon 4g at 37kgs ~80 pounds now.
omg.
and he plays it which such a feel O_o
No wonder! Now I understand how he makes those amazing drop shots!
I always use 55 lbs
I’ve tested a few different poly strings at our club with stringster app and tourna string gauge. it’s amazing how many players have dead polys in there racquets. The hybrids mask this but the tension difference between crosses and mains can be 20lb different. Luxillon alu power seem to loose tension fastest. I tested some rackets after a month that had lost 25lb of tension.
I use to string 66lbs tension when i was young. When i get older, my hands gets more pain so i lower my tension to 60, then 55, then 52, 50 and now the best is 48lbs. And i usually can use the string only at 46 47 or 48, other than that i cant use it and feels too stiff if its more than 49 or too much swing if it is too low. Ans i never broke a string since i play more flat than spin.