Jacob Obrecht - Missa Maria zart

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ย. 2024

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  • @mario_actually
    @mario_actually 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    For almost 20 years now. This work
    Has reappeared in my mind again and again. So lovely.

  • @fredericpachciarz3747
    @fredericpachciarz3747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Une merveille qu on devrait entendre plus souvent dans nos églises !

  • @marinapegrisch1305
    @marinapegrisch1305 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    C'est magnifique😇

  • @robkeeleycomposer
    @robkeeleycomposer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a wonderful piece. It expresses eternity perfectly. Heavenly length!!

  • @IrinaNenartovich
    @IrinaNenartovich 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you. Absolutely beautiful performance. seeing and following the score is a luxury.

  • @el7284
    @el7284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The " _gloria tua_ " is sung well enough to drive me to tears. Where has this kind of expressive singing disappeared to?

  • @postylem
    @postylem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    constant overlapping mysterious beauty

  • @QuackQuackDobleP
    @QuackQuackDobleP ปีที่แล้ว

  • @yosepinas
    @yosepinas ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:03:51

  • @gozzilla78
    @gozzilla78 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Listening to Obrecht you realize the greatness of Palestrina

    • @thijmenkrijgsman2417
      @thijmenkrijgsman2417 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Listening to Obrecht makes you realize Ockeghem is the greatest of them all 🤭🤭

    • @robkeeleycomposer
      @robkeeleycomposer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you kindly explain?

    • @thijmenkrijgsman2417
      @thijmenkrijgsman2417 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@robkeeleycomposeryes of course; what I really like about Ockeghem as apposed to Obrecht is the length of the phrases/melodies, fewer cadences. I can really lose myself in that music. In Obrecht the phrases are often shorter because he extrapolates them from his cantus firmus. I can follow the music better as a consequence… it’s just that I prefer Ockeghem’s approach. It is really difficult to write such long phrases and still make a nice flow in the music… leaving behind all the counterpoint etc because long melodies are tricky with counterpoint. And also; the fact that you can conceive of something like the Missa Prolationum, two mensuration canon’s at the same time… that is really genius… and it sounds soooo extremely good!!! Beter then Josquin’s use of the technique is Missa L’homme armée super voces musicales and/or Pierre de la Rue (also I think in a Missa L'homme armée).
      at the end of the day it is just music, and what your taste prefers!
      But this mass by Obrecht is great! Don't get me wrong😊

    • @robkeeleycomposer
      @robkeeleycomposer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thijmenkrijgsman2417thank you for your full response, you know much more than me on this topic. But after listening to what I found to be one of Ockeghems duller masses (Ecce Ancilla Domine) I responded much more directly to Obrecht’s directly melodiousness.

  • @brumels1570
    @brumels1570 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the sopranos are too loud. they need to go back to the master tapes and release a more true-to-life sound.