Headcanon, or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love John Wayne (Films)

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  • "The Cowboys" (1972) is one of my all-time favorite westerns... not just because of how viscerally satisfying it is, but also because of my own personal headcanon, which considers the possibility that the last act is actually a figment of the audience's imagination.
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  • @cartercena8053
    @cartercena8053 4 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    "Above all forgive me for the men I have killed in anger and for those I am about to" by far the best movie line in history.

    • @DrZaius3141
      @DrZaius3141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Better than: "You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons."? Cause I honestly don't think so.

    • @angelchavez458
      @angelchavez458 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep and if you're bold fill your hands you son of a batch broke my back once my hip twice on my worse day I could beat the hell out of you

    • @angelchavez458
      @angelchavez458 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep and if you're bold fill your hands you son of a batch broke my back once my hip twice on my worse day I could beat the hell out of you

    • @angelchavez458
      @angelchavez458 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep and if you're bold fill your hands you son of a batch broke my back once my hip twice on my worse day I could beat the hell out of you

  • @c.w.johnsonjr6374
    @c.w.johnsonjr6374 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I listened to and read biographies last year. Everyone who worked with him on film sets said he was very nice and polite. He was good friends with Hispanics and Latinos. On one set in Mexico he went up, shoke hands with and learned all the names of the fifty - two Mexican crew members. During the shooting of the Alamo, he told the director of photography not to show closeups of the Mexican soldiers because he wanted the audience to realize that war was about freedom vs tyranny, not race.

  • @jedisilvr
    @jedisilvr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +315

    There is a sore lack of people analyzing Westerns in today's world.

    • @Malkmusianful
      @Malkmusianful 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      eh, the French did it a lot
      and also Westerns tend to age like milk - you get the ones that age like a fine wine, like the Leone spaghetti Westerns, Blazing Saddles, The Wild Bunch, and McCabe and Mrs. Miller, but most of them are reflections of what our society was. And they painted that as a good or a cool thing to do. Save for exceptions like The Searchers, most Westerns are pretty steadfast in promoting white supremacy and manifest destiny as these ultimately positive things.
      And both revisionist and acid Westerns tend to age pretty bad - granted they're great stories and all, but I don't think it really was worth it just for Jodorowsky to actually rape his co-star while filming El Topo just for that added realism, I don't care how much ayahuasca you've injected into your brain stem. And how did Clint Eastwood's research team not know that the Josey Wales writer was actually Asa fucking Carter?

    • @southron2279
      @southron2279 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Malkmusianful The josey wales character was written by a klansman so what, its still a powerful film and an extremely important film if your a rural southerner because growing up all you hear from people outside the south is how your all dumb inbred racist fanatics and how the confederacy was so evil and the union was so good (the same union that decimated the plains indians, and believe it or not commited some attrocious acts on civillians during the war) so I would say hell yeah josey wales is a badass film because nosey wales is the exact same character as django in django unchained fighting against plantation owners in the pre civil war era, or the Jewish bastards in inglorious basterds butchering Nazis in ww2, its the oppressed fighting thier oppressors which in the case of josey wales its a southerner killing yankees occupying his home during reconstruction.

    • @russellharrell2747
      @russellharrell2747 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actors, writers, producers, directors, they are all human, they can be saints, sinners, monsters and worse. But their work is an amalgamation of many people, and Art is art no matter who makes. Even Hitler painted pictures and wrote books, should those be condemned for their creator and not their content? Mein Kampf is of course full of deplorable ideas but you have to read it to know, not just look at the name of the cover.
      And I still think Fat Albert is a fine cartoon.

    • @CastlesComments
      @CastlesComments 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@russellharrell2747 Didnt know godwins law applied to books too 🙄

    • @shahsadsaadu5817
      @shahsadsaadu5817 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@russellharrell2747 not really. Nobody has to read mein kampf to know its a bad book. A simple , reasoning man can just assume that when a nazi publishes a book bamed 'my struggle" that its a horrible book. Besides,art critics exist. A reliable critic can always tell you which piece of art is worth investing your time and not.
      Also, art is morally ambiguous,and there are good art,and bad art. Something that is absolutely deplorable should not get the privilege to exist in the public domain of society.

  • @TuttleCapt
    @TuttleCapt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    I do not agree with Wayne's politics myself, but I have a story about him from my childhood that paints him a good man. When I was 12 or so, he came to my town for a ribbon-cutting and was swamped afterwards by autograph requests. Maybe 200 kids or so. His staff tried repeatedly to pull him into his limo and away, but he stayed until every single fan had gotten his autograph! I got mine early on, my pal Mark had to wait a while--and his was more legible than mine!

  • @rambletash
    @rambletash 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I know next to nothing about westerns, but this is the most heartfelt and intelligent defence of headcanon and personal interpretation of fiction I've ever seen, and I wholeheartedly thank you for that.

  • @nicolasbazzano2028
    @nicolasbazzano2028 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The fact that Ridley Scott is so insistent that Dekard is a Replicant, explains perfectly how he’s lost his damn mind as a director, and explains why his misses far and away outnumber his hits.

    • @dukecraig2402
      @dukecraig2402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ridley Scott's a chump, yea, Blade Runner is one of my favorite films, and Alien scared the hell out of me in the theater when I was 14, but last year or so when he jumped on that whole bandwagon about women's pay in Hollywood he only did that because he was mad about having to pay Mark Wahlberg 1.6 million dollars for reshoots over Kevin Spacey and the movie All the Money in the World, Scott knows damn well that actors get reshoot in their contract because of their star power, you can bet in Mark Wahlberg's past when he was starting out there were women, like Meryl Streep, in movies he was in that had a reshoot clause in their contracts and he didn't, 20 years later after a lot of hard work and blockbuster movies that made Hollywood a lot of money he arrived at a place where he gets reshoot money, his costar in that movie, Michelle Williams, has brought a fraction to the box office that Wahlberg has and that's why her agents can't get a reshoot clause in her contracts, not because she's a woman like the media was playing it and Scott jumped on board with.
      He's also one of these doomsday liberals that is always harping on about a dystopian world if we don't get electric cars but he gets flown around in corporate jets and shuttled around in limos, Blade Runner was his honest view on what the world would look like in 2019, suddenly he's not that much of a genius is he.
      PS; Wahlberg's also a giant douche for throwing 1.6 million dollars at a woman's organization and then running and hiding under a rock when Michelle Williams pointed a finger at him and cried "sexism" over the whole reshoot thing from that movie, he should have stood up for himself, by doing what he did he sold out every guy in this country.

    • @justinlarsen2281
      @justinlarsen2281 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      True

  • @timy9197
    @timy9197 6 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    "The cowboys" ending feels like the ending of "Logan"

    • @coldcrashpictures
      @coldcrashpictures  6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Holy shit, dude, I see it. Everybody's been comparing "Logan" to "Shane," but it really fits as a remake of "The Cowboys," too!

    • @shahsadsaadu5817
      @shahsadsaadu5817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@coldcrashpictures i personally think "drive" is the modern shane. I don't get how people think logan is similar to shane

  • @Ceares
    @Ceares 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Honestly, when you mention spanking I thought you were going straight for the film that I can't watch to this day, The Quiet Man. I grew up watching John Wayne movies and my mother still loves them but there comes a point, when it doesn't matter how much you enjoy the output, or how "nice" a person is in other ways. It's the point that you realize you're one of the ones they hate/disdain/think are less than them and then, for me at least it becomes a matter of self-respect and respect for the people before me who suffered because of people like that. It's honestly why I constantly cringe these days the minute an actor's name is mentioned and find my film and tv viewing less and less.

    • @unitymomentum
      @unitymomentum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is very important and true, it's not that simple to "separate art from the artist" for everyone. Especially, victims of abuse and minorities.

    • @MarchingGrrl
      @MarchingGrrl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I looked up the plot of the film, but wikipedia is a little scant on details. Was he abusive to his wife in that film? The financial abuse of burning his wife's dowry and insulting irish customs?

  • @Kuudere-Kun
    @Kuudere-Kun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    "Selfishly trying to keep it for themselves" So he's for open borders then?

    • @oof-rr5nf
      @oof-rr5nf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ayyyyyyye I like you

    • @justinlarsen2281
      @justinlarsen2281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Remove the doors from your home and then you'll have a better concept of open borders.

    • @shahsadsaadu5817
      @shahsadsaadu5817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@justinlarsen2281 so you support native Americans and condemn their exploitation?

    • @justinlarsen2281
      @justinlarsen2281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      shahsad saadu their land lines were established and agreed upon after the French Indian wars and revolutionary war. I disagree with American administrations that imposed of those treaties as well as Indians that broke peace treaties and attacked settlers or neighboring tribes. There isn't a good or bad side

    • @shahsadsaadu5817
      @shahsadsaadu5817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@justinlarsen2281 so when it comes to indigenous sovereignty, you're wishy washy "there is no bad side" nonsense. But when it comes to immigration, all of a sudden we're nationalists. American exceptionalists like you doesn't know what nationalism is.

  • @merrillbeck1575
    @merrillbeck1575 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love Cowboys, grew up with that movie, my grandpa was a real life version of John Wayne from that movie, and I grew up going on cattle drives

  • @kpopahjussi6379
    @kpopahjussi6379 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    An important life lesson: You don't have to agree with someone to like or respect them.

    • @TheMidwestAtheist
      @TheMidwestAtheist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I think we need to be careful here to not speak too broadly. Would I have respected Wayne overall? F*** no!!! Could I have respected specific actions he took in his life? Sure. But let's be sure to make that distinction so that we don't leave an impression that his racism was then also respectable because it wasn't.

    • @thepiranhawins3828
      @thepiranhawins3828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Leo Buzalsky dude, I think what he meant is actions speak louder then words. Despite the political views or beliefs a person might have, its the way they conduct those views on the rest of the world that matters.

    • @timmorris8932
      @timmorris8932 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Conversely I can think of a great many people that I generally agree with but have zero respect for.

    • @oof-rr5nf
      @oof-rr5nf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheMidwestAtheist I agree.

    • @Roughscrubbles
      @Roughscrubbles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Personally as a black person I don't give two shits I can't be friends with someone who think they can decide whats best for me and or my race or other for that matter. Sorry I don't have privilege to just disregard someone's racism or political views specifically today with politics as regressive as they are.

  • @CaptainShack
    @CaptainShack 6 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Really enjoyed this. Thanks for the great video.

  • @shankthebat8654
    @shankthebat8654 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    What a wonderfully insightful, deep, educational video on a movie I otherwise would have never watched, and never bothered to look into you. You have taken me out of my cinematic echo chamber, and I could not be happier for the experience. Thank you. Thank you for EDUCATING me.

  • @suadela87
    @suadela87 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As far as parenting goes, I always figure that as long as you do your best to not harm or neglect the kid, you’re doing alright. But, if the idea of parenting is in any way undesirable for you, by all means, don’t do it. You can have a happy and meaningful life without kids. Don’t let anyone convince you otherwise.

  • @harlanhardway5955
    @harlanhardway5955 6 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Great video. I grew up on westerns and I have a big fondness for them. They have their problems, to be sure, but something I always found interesting: the only genre where women who are either prostitutes, or have had multiple sexual partners for whatever other reason, are not regularly punished by the narrative are westerns. I'm thinking of Lonesome Dove and Paint Your Wagon right now...

    • @coldcrashpictures
      @coldcrashpictures  6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      That's true! The "hooker with a heart of gold" archetype came straight from westerns.

    • @jacobmcandles1745
      @jacobmcandles1745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Harlan H. 2 of my favorite movies . And John Wayne was a Truly great American. Went to his birthday and museum in Winterset this year.

    • @user-xx9wq6xo2n
      @user-xx9wq6xo2n 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Prostitution was what kinda build/started the west

    • @Roughscrubbles
      @Roughscrubbles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nick Mcdonnell no kinda. Women were what made the west what it was. They built schools, supplied with grocery stores, stock and cattle. They ran most towns. They were prostitutes but firstly they were women and they were awesome.

    • @user-xx9wq6xo2n
      @user-xx9wq6xo2n 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Roughscrubbles I didn't say anything bad about them I don't give a fuck who you fuck within reason

  • @schristy3637
    @schristy3637 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I saw The Cowboys when I was about 11(that would have been 1977). As a kid I loved it of course, but I still love it to this day. He said John Wayne played him self mostly. That is true,but that is still true to this day about a lot of actors. There are very few actors who play a large variety of character types. Like the video a lot.

  • @cabronmalisimo
    @cabronmalisimo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I am a father, and let me tell you that it is completely true, you do what you think is best while you beg forgiveness...

    • @guarddog318
      @guarddog318 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I must've done it wrong then, 'cause I did what I thought was right, based on my own experience, then prayed that it actually was, and that if not, the kid did it better than I did.
      I sort'a figured that's what every parent did, but apparently not...

  • @ichbinben.
    @ichbinben. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    One of my favourite movies of all time is a German-French adaptation of Treasure Island from 1966. I don't know why I love it so much, it has several moments that haven't aged well. But for all my childhood until now (I'm 21) I've imagined the characters Livesey and Trelawney as a gay couple. You can certainly interpret them that way in the book as well, but in my opinion the actors in the adaptation have such great chemistry, every time I watch the movie (which is way too often considering it's a four-parter that's almost 6 hours long in total) I can't help but ship them, they were my first gay headcanon way before I knew any actual gay characters. That's not the entire reason why I love it, also I love the book as well, but it's certainly part of the reason.

  • @clown-cult96
    @clown-cult96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think this is also important that is one of Wayne's later roles too. It shows not only growth and development for movies and westerns, but John Wayne too.

  • @phaedrus4931
    @phaedrus4931 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great video. I was spanked...and stuff. I'm not an outlier. Thank you for this deep dive into the good and bad of a bygone era.

  • @TheActualCathal
    @TheActualCathal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Am I the only one who googled Nightlinger just because the voice was so familiar?
    Roscoe Lee Browne. The mu'fuggen Kingpin.

  • @Kentex4
    @Kentex4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    EXPLAIN. THE PRESTIGE ASSERTION.

    • @oof-rr5nf
      @oof-rr5nf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I KNOW RIGHT!? I am burning with curiosity.

    • @Rocketboy1313
      @Rocketboy1313 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      +

  • @TheGrayMysterious
    @TheGrayMysterious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    John Wayne sociopathically chucking a kid into a creek after learning the kid can't swim is the epitome of unintentional black comedy

    • @technopoptart
      @technopoptart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and the gag being that he'd do the same to an adult woman in full kit ties the bow on it

  • @wanderinghistorian
    @wanderinghistorian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Not gonna lie, when this video started I was like "Whaaat?" But this turned out to be one of the best YT videos I've ever watched.
    "Is it true?" "If it's not, it oughta be."
    That's sticking with me forever.
    P.S. This also sounds similar to the "If you have to choose between the truth and the legend, choose the legend."

    • @harrybetteridge7532
      @harrybetteridge7532 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the line is "This is the west when legend becomes fact, print the legend" from my favourite John Wayne movie The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.

  • @warrengday
    @warrengday 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the depth of your videos, I learn how to appreciate film better through learning how we go about thinking and talking about film. Here, I didn't know what headcanon was, even though of course I do it myself.

  • @llaauuddrruupp
    @llaauuddrruupp 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This was terrific, thank you.

  • @mayaan773
    @mayaan773 6 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    I totally agree about not having kids, i dont want the power or ability to have such a strong impact someones life. Childhood is so fragile and i dont trust myself to handle that.

    • @AvrilFanCarson
      @AvrilFanCarson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      May S I don’t think enough people appreciate the responsibility of raising a child, otherwise I think fewer people would be making babies!!

    • @OALM
      @OALM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then who’s gonna pay my social security checks?

    • @TheIndianaGeoff
      @TheIndianaGeoff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kids are tough enough. You are probably smart enough to get them into the success zone. If it weren't so, we would still be eating termites off a stick. Oh, and bad things sometimes happen to anybody, anywhere.

    • @seanbrogden7944
      @seanbrogden7944 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So leave the future to those people who have the courage. Or to those who are reckless or just have the faith to continue. The human race doesn't need your cowardly genes.

    • @devinbarber1789
      @devinbarber1789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      children are not fragile unless you raise them to be

  • @TheJackiebot
    @TheJackiebot 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this idea, and I totally do this already. Thanks for the unique and smart videos!

  • @squireoflink
    @squireoflink 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always, great video!! Love your work!

  • @slashandbones13
    @slashandbones13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was born in 1995 and I enjoy quite a bit of his filmography. The cultural issues his films accidentally brings up I, personally speaking, write off as "product of its time". The views of the man himself never toke me out of it.

  • @sarahbarnes4225
    @sarahbarnes4225 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for reminding me just how much I love this movie.

  • @chardtomp
    @chardtomp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bruce Dern tells a great anecdote about this movie. He said when they were getting ready to film the scene where he shoots John Wayne in the back Wayne called him aside and said, "You know people are going to hate you for this." To which Dern replied, "Not at Berkeley."

  • @KristinBerkery
    @KristinBerkery 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "try what they think is best and then beg for forgiveness" - that's the essence of decent parenting ☺️ You mentioned in a previous video that you never want children, but when you're a bit older and wiser, that phrase can guide you to being a pretty good parent, and that's all any of us parents can hope for.

  • @d.l.h.8743
    @d.l.h.8743 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Like your analysis of this movie except for your conclusion on the revenge part. You made a comment about teens and preteens not revenging the boss, I assume because they were so young. Granted, it is a movie, based on a meh book, but remember, it is taking place in a different time. Examples from our history have tons of stories of kids doing things we would think of only adults doing. George Washington was surveying the Shenandoah Valley as a teen, "Branco" Charlie Miller was riding for the Pony Express at 11, "Buffalo" Bill Cody was a wrangler on a cattle drive when he was nine. Also remember that Johnny Clem was 11 when he fought in the Civil War, and after the Battle of Chickamauga, was promoted to Sergeant. He was 12.
    My point is this: I could believe that a group of mid to late teens in the late 1880's or early 1890's would track down and kill the men who killed their boss and stole their cattle.

  • @gotellbossc4t-vb9hz
    @gotellbossc4t-vb9hz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Coldcrash, I am rwice your age but I enjoyed your video and learnt and appreciated from your narrative. Cheers.

  • @Spamhard
    @Spamhard 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The biggest struggle I have with so many of these films, beyond the human aspects, is just the sheer amount of animal abuse in them too. Even in these clips there's a lot of "christ, that poor horse" I keep throwing in.

  • @WhiteStone21475
    @WhiteStone21475 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a delightful video, my faith ,in the worth of "Cowboys" was rewarded. You certainly earned my 'subscribe" click. Looking forward to digging into your works.

  • @Tinblitz
    @Tinblitz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Strange, but the only times I've ever seen "The Green Berets" was a heavily edited daytime TV version, where that exact scene of the... Slightly over engineered booby trap cuts off just before the soldier hits the spikes.
    I really enjoyed this video though. Its really interesting to hear both the good, and bad parts of Wayne's off screen personality. I really don't know why your channel showed up in my recommended feed recently, but I'm glad it did.

  • @ArnLPs
    @ArnLPs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was only spanked once, when I was angry and my father felt that I had not the right to show my emotions.
    And another time I was slapped when I had "rolled my eyes" I was so young that I did not know at that point what rolling your eyes even was and what it was supposed to signal in body language. My father had asked me if I "understood", and since he had never stopped yelling at me when I said yes before that, I tried to look like I had really thought about what he had said, not only that but I really tried to actually recall everything he had said, and I rolled my eyes to signal that, like how a person would look up to signal thinking about something.
    While my parents never got physical besides these two incidents, the undeserved verbal abuse was just as bad and has driven me away from my parents pretty much for good.

  • @terryloh8583
    @terryloh8583 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have that same particular headcanon about Blade Runner. But then again everyone from the screenwriter, stars, and the author of the original book have the same viewpoint; as film is a uniquely collaborative effort (even if you are as much of a control freak as Kubrick), those contributions are important to consider. Those viewpoints can be more important, especially if the director doesn't actually understand the point of the screenplay or novel. The fact that a movie can still be brilliant despite these sort of misunderstandings is part of the miracle of film making.

  • @alinncarmonajuarez6419
    @alinncarmonajuarez6419 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting take on an iconic actor and a cool film film recommendation to search up later! Loved the video.

  • @Rikku147
    @Rikku147 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wait what
    I need to know more about that Prestige point! D8
    Great video! I do think there are a lot of films I adore based on the interpretation I've put forth into it. Plus, all great art allows its audience to put in a little of themselves into the work. In some great work, half of it can come from the creator, half of it from the audience. And that's pretty fun.

    • @coldcrashpictures
      @coldcrashpictures  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've toyed with the idea of making a video about how the duplication machine in "The Prestige" doesn't actually duplicate anything. It'd be a mixture of (1) unreliable narrators (Robert Angier) and (2) really, REALLY lame alternate-explanations that are as banal as "wax replicas," "doubles," etc, which are all in service of the ultimate trick, which is: convincing Alfred Borden that Robert was able to do real magic.

  • @ethanchildress552
    @ethanchildress552 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This movie perfectly encapsulates my childhood. Not just in the parenting my father gave me (and he was a great dad), but also because this movie was one of my father's favorites. I never noticed the link between my father's politics and behavior as mapped out by Wayne. Kind of an enlightening watch. Thanks for the therapy. :)

  • @Schmidtelpunkt
    @Schmidtelpunkt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really like the differentiated exploration of Wayne's character.

  • @merkury06
    @merkury06 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done analysis. I grew up watching John Wayne movies and did not know anything about his politics until I was nearly an adult, by which time it was too late to "unlike" all the movies of his I had seen already.

  • @parrot849
    @parrot849 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ...Thank you, a very insightful look at a film I’ve enjoyed over and over since the first time I viewed it in the theater 🎭. And Roscoe Brown is one of my favorite actors too.

  • @Rmf1185
    @Rmf1185 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wait, I need more about the Prestige theory!

  • @maxm3246
    @maxm3246 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Would love to see more on your personal headcanons

  • @jeffoswald8271
    @jeffoswald8271 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. It really underlines that people are truly complex and we should view the totality of the person, not just the "good" or the "bad".

  • @jerico641
    @jerico641 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually DID get a vintage online subscription to Playboy for the articles. Sydney Lumet, Norman Mailer, Orson Welles, Herman Wouk; all concise, candid, and absolutely fascinating. These interviews are priceless now. I did look at the naked ladies, but I swear to you, only after I read the interviews. Really. Seriously. I'm not lying. ; )

  • @MFSeaMen
    @MFSeaMen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm 19. My nan loved John Wayne, but I have never watched any of his films. Loved this video, I will check the suggestions out!

  • @NelsonStJames
    @NelsonStJames 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful retrospective and an position that I wish more people in this era could adopt rather than try and make people feel guilty for liking the stuff they like.

  • @mercon1337
    @mercon1337 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a seemingly unknowingly monument to not only your true tolerance but to john Wayne's as well

  • @oregontenor1237
    @oregontenor1237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Being raised on John Wayne films, I agree with ya whole heartedly. I love your videos and happily spread them like gospel.

  • @mrpurple11
    @mrpurple11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great analysis and conclusion. Many works of art and entertainment can have a new fresh air when we look up then from different angles.

  • @ClickDrawJimmy
    @ClickDrawJimmy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I haven’t seen the video yet but love John Wayne movies so much! My Dad and I quote them to each other all the time 😂

  • @dasaggropop1244
    @dasaggropop1244 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    i like "the shootist"

  • @MzRage
    @MzRage 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude!!! One thing i watch movies to be entertained..and some times the go so far as to suspend my belief..then either i disconnect or find something else to enjoy as you said lol. Love what you are doing had no idea about Wayne..shame ..

  • @mikecusic
    @mikecusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @manband20
    @manband20 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    "I read Playboy for the articles."
    Reads Playboy for the article where John Wayne admits to being a white supremacist.
    I'd say it was worth a read.

  • @rev.davemoorman3883
    @rev.davemoorman3883 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sooner or later, it always comes back to Firefly. Exactly!

  • @orpheus9037
    @orpheus9037 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If The Cowboys ('72) narrative is premised on a kind of audience wish fulfillment, an interesting antidote would be Bad Company (also from '72), about the hard scrabble lives of teenagers who flee the civil war draft and head for the frontier, full of romantic, albeit delusional, notions of becoming outlaws. This is a rough, tough, thoroughly unsentimental film. Robert Benton directed, who at that point was most well known for scripting Bonnie and Clyde, which of course heralded the emerging violent realism in US films. Serge, if you haven't seen it, I guarantee it's worth your time. A commentary piece on it would make an interesting companion piece to your commentary on The Cowboys. How these two films appeared on the cultural horizon at the same time is a riddle I'll be most interested to hear your deconstruction of.

  • @thedatabase677
    @thedatabase677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That ending song is giving me flashbacks to VBS when I was a kid ...

  • @lisaleyendekker8305
    @lisaleyendekker8305 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    some of my favorite John Wayne films are "The Alamo", "The Cowboys", and "True Grit". I still have yet to see "The Silent Man"

    • @dukecraig2402
      @dukecraig2402 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The QUIET Man, not The Silent Man, that sounds like a 50's horror movie, if you liked True Grit try watching Rooster Cogburn (and the lady), the underrated sequel to True Grit with Katherine Hepburn. Also watch, They Were Expendable, probably his best war movie.
      Other great ones;
      The Wake of the Red Witch
      The Sea Chase
      The High and the Mighty
      Tall in the Saddle
      Angel and the Badman
      Rio Lobo (with an unforgettable performance from Jack Elam)
      The Horse Soldiers
      Three Godfathers
      The list goes on and on...

  • @dalehaub59
    @dalehaub59 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well said sir,thankyou!

  • @nate1066pollock
    @nate1066pollock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice analysis. I'd be interested to hear your breakdown of some other John Wayne movies, like The Searchers, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, or The Quiet Man.

  • @samuelbarber6177
    @samuelbarber6177 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:54 I find this deeply amusing for just how random it is. He’s just having this conversation with a child and without any build up, motive or foreshadowing, he just throws the kid into a river.

  • @jamesseiter4576
    @jamesseiter4576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    11:44 I believe that is the true intent of the Western genre.
    It exists as the Western frontier did 200 years ago. A place of our imagination, which of course reality obliterated, but it was an open landscape of the pure American spirit, the pure American dream. Where anything could happen and you, personally, could shape it from the blood of your hands and the sweat of your brow.
    The Western is the most purely American genre of film, and John Wayne embodies them perfectly. Perfectly because of their flaws.

  • @iangillham9647
    @iangillham9647 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find it hard to watch westerns now, after a youth spent watching them, but I keep buying them!

  • @arnoldpaine6143
    @arnoldpaine6143 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When the presenter questions that a group of pre-teens could have accomplished the ending gunfight, he seems to not understand that pre-teens of that era were, in most cases and especially in the frontiers of the US, more like small adults, which is why their parents allowed them to go on a cattle drive.
    An interesting comparison is that in the 1960s Randy California (eventually of the band Spirit) was 15 when he performed in NYC with Jimi Hendrix but when Hendrix got contracted to go to Europe, which is what launched his career as we know it, Randy's parents wouldn't allow him to go because they thought 15 was too young to travel away from parents.

  • @SaturnCanuck
    @SaturnCanuck 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You made a true statement about John Wayne. I will embellish. He wasn’t a great actor - he just played himself. But he did it, very, very well.
    In the end, you make some good points about the man. And I’m not going to blow sunshine up anyone’s *** and say he was a saint, but, you can’t judge anyone just by his or her politics. He had a good heart, as you showed by the Academy Award reference. But, also consider this.
    During the filming of “The Searchers”, a little Navajo girl became sick with pneumonia. John Wayne insisted that the girl be flown in his own airplane to the hospital for treatment. He didn't have to do that, but he did. While some of his views may be questionable, in the end however, his humanity was not.

  • @wilfredohernandez154
    @wilfredohernandez154 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my Favs

  • @MarchingGrrl
    @MarchingGrrl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually remember seeing the middle of this film (Intro of Nightlinger to death of JW) on TV as a child. My parents turned it off once they saw how violent it was getting (They saw the prostitute scene, but my parents believe that sex shouldnt be stigmatized as much as violence) and I never found the name of the movie. Thanks for reminding me, I'll check it out now.

  • @Jack-pm1ve
    @Jack-pm1ve 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To be honest I think we need more cowboy movies like this today

  • @mkbanks73a
    @mkbanks73a 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice of you to play SCC!

  • @plaidzebra5526
    @plaidzebra5526 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like John Wayne movies. I don't like him much for his belifs, his politics, but that doesn't mean I should hate his movies. I can still love and enjoy some of his movies even if we're so different.

  • @racookster
    @racookster 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder how John Wayne would have reacted if he had ever found out that smoking probably didn't kill him. Working downwind from a nuclear test site on The Conqueror did. He was such a war hawk.

  • @eliberdinner4808
    @eliberdinner4808 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd be interested in hearing your take on The Shootist. I wrote a paper in an undergrad history in film class, comparing it to Jarmusch's Dead Man as commentaries on the end of the "old west" or "wild west".

  • @chesshiregrin1169
    @chesshiregrin1169 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the music... have I missed the details somewhere? I'd like to know what that first song is!

    • @coldcrashpictures
      @coldcrashpictures  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The song at the intro is "John Wayne" by Lady Gaga. The song during the outro is "The Great Adventure" by Steven Curtis Chapman.

  • @davidheathelry5159
    @davidheathelry5159 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I grow up on John Wayne movies. And I loved them. Until I grow
    up and saw the real world after that everything changed. I could no longer watch any on Wayne’s modern
    war movies. I cam to resent his betray
    of something he had never experienced personally. If you think of the point in
    all quiet on the western front when the young protagonist returns from ww1 to
    his professor is about as close as I could find to compare with. The one thing
    that changed my overall view of Wayne was that James Stewart liked him as was
    his friend. And that was a man how saw war up close and personally. To this day
    I still wont watch his war movies but I can still enjoy his westerns for the
    simple fact that they are real as Star Wars.

  • @BimLanders
    @BimLanders 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had to switch off because I haven't seen the Cowboys yet, lol. I plan on it - just don't know when.

  • @charlietheanteater3918
    @charlietheanteater3918 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:15
    I hate to be “that guy” but the California gold rush was in 1848 and lasted until 1855. This film takes place decades after the civil war. There is a moment in the film where the cook mentions Vicksburg

    • @dwc1964
      @dwc1964 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmm. Maybe it was the Black Hills gold rush? Just a guess

  • @FCSchaefer
    @FCSchaefer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am far outside your age demographic, but I loved this video because I am a huge John Wayne, and The Cowboys is one of favorite of his later films, and I think your analysis is sound. That infamous Playboy interview has been common knowledge for decades, and quoted in every Wayne bio I have ever read, somehow it wasn't a big deal until the little Millennials found out about it.

  • @drbarney1000
    @drbarney1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The one movie John Wayne had complete control over was "The High and The Mighty." He worked closely with Ernest K. Gann transcribing the novel into a film. I saw it as a teenager and later became a navigator in the Air Force and years later I saw it again. I doubt the navigator in the film would make the mistake of using statute miles instead of nautical miles, especially when dividers use minutes of latitude on charts to plot distances, but this is minor. The square pulses on the Loran-A were missing, but how a crew worked was nailed down.
    This movie showed Wayne in his deepest acting, capturing his PTSD at the beginning of the film.
    He was free to better work as director than in his other films.

  • @AtomicBananaPress
    @AtomicBananaPress 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man...now I want to watch Rio Bravo again. By far my favorite junk food western.

  • @gregshock
    @gregshock 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The reason John Wayne was loved so much by so many people was just because of who he was. He played himself in any given role and people loved it.

  • @alittlebitofhistory
    @alittlebitofhistory 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd say I'm a passing fan of John Wayne no means die hard about him could go a couple years between watching any of his films, he was what he was and it shows,he would only ever really play himself (Possibly worried about seeing the world from anther point of view for even a moment.) I can't say I agree with him politically on a lot of issues but what are the chances of 2 people of different ages, counties and decades doing that. I can fully understand why people don't like him and why his films are falling out of favour but I will probably continue to watch them as and when I feel like it. The only other thing I will add is I find it a shame that of all the messages he tried to put across in his films the one I see most of all from people who like him online is "Don't apologise its a sign of weakness."

  • @TheMadAfrican1
    @TheMadAfrican1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the thing with Wayne is that he was a very "of his time" sort of man. He was a lot like my grandfather is. Racist to a degree, set in his ways, supportive of some of the less desirable aspects of society. But, he was also honorable, respectful, and tried his best to be what he saw as decent. I'm pretty sure Wayne was the kind of man who would give anyone an even chance to prove themselves, be they black or white or whatever, because that's just how he was. As can be seen with his relationship with Roscoe Lee Brown and the director of this film. He was the kind of man that would give anyone an even shake, because in his mind it was the right thing to do. I don't think we can judge him because our time is not like his, and maybe if he had lived longer he'd have had his mind changed.

  • @ashbackwards3
    @ashbackwards3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How dare you wedge Steven Curtis Chapman songs back in my brain, sir. I’ll have you know it’s been years since contemporary Christian bops have been stuck in my head. 😂

  • @quinnkoldewyn1232
    @quinnkoldewyn1232 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    John Wayne is the best

  • @adamnilsson2843
    @adamnilsson2843 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was beautiful.

  • @taoalexis
    @taoalexis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It isn't the California gold rush. It is clear the events from the picture take place in Montana; there were gold rushes all over America. We can assume this was a small one, most likely in the rockies of western Montana.

  • @iangillham9647
    @iangillham9647 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shared on FB!

  • @jamie_mkv
    @jamie_mkv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful vid, only criticism is the dissonance between the (somewhat distracting) music at the start and the content you discussed. It improved later, but it did make the first 3 minutes harder to watch.

  • @bensneb360
    @bensneb360 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    OH SHIT !!! The Chief is The Kingpin from the 90’s Spider-Man cartoon... cool 😎

  • @danpanko4124
    @danpanko4124 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My top three John Wayne movies or Rio Bravo, the Cowboys and Mr McClintock

    • @jknuttel
      @jknuttel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's simply "McLintock", not "Mr McClintock".

    • @RobertDavis-qt2ve
      @RobertDavis-qt2ve 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rio Bravo ... Sons of Katie Elder ... The man who shot liberty valance

    • @nadapuesnada7716
      @nadapuesnada7716 ปีที่แล้ว

      "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon."

  • @Hanmerhack
    @Hanmerhack 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wayne seemed to be able to take a joke about himself. Check out his bit on Rowen and Martin's Laff In

  • @arthurvelwest5481
    @arthurvelwest5481 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you done a video of the prestidge? if not, you should. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.

    • @coldcrashpictures
      @coldcrashpictures  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haven’t done one yet. Nerdwriter1 did a really good one, though, if you need something to tide you over.

    • @arthurvelwest5481
      @arthurvelwest5481 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@coldcrashpictures I've seen his, but I'm curious of the details of your head connon

  • @tomjones2348
    @tomjones2348 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Cowboys is a masterpiece of film making. Not perfect....but certainly one of my favorite films. As a matter of fact, I'm getting ready to watch this film with my 12 year old grandson. We watched Shane last week. He loved it.

  • @Ambroiseur
    @Ambroiseur 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could we get a video about that head canon for The Prestige ?