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USMC NCO Sword vs cheap sword.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ส.ค. 2023
- This is a direct comparison between the Commercial USMC nco sword purchased from the Marine Corps exchange in Camp LeJeune versus a cheap BudK China knockoff. The official NCO sword has a serial number and is manufactured by Officers Equipment Company sourced and made in Schmitz, in Germany. This Company has been certified by the Marine Corps and swords are sold in the Marine Corps Exchange System.
It would be nice if you back the camera up and show the whole sword
There are many companies that offer these. And quite frankly it's not hard to understand why a Marine or anyone else be hesitant to spend $500+ on a official licensed sword. Even though a cheaper sword may have China or India marked on the blade it's not going to be noticed. Except by a Marine who knows the difference.
Let me also update the current pricing of the cheaper swords from China or India...I bought this one from BUDK a long time ago for $40.00 but today they go for about $80.00. So in the end of it all you get what you pay for either a cheap knockoff or the real deal.
I bought my Son his USMC NCO Sword when he came back from Kabul Airport Afghanistan 24 MEU in October 2021.
I paid all of $500 ➕ for a real one from Germany
My son was also at HKIA...he is taking his NCO Sword Class right now.
I've been out for a hot minute and I am looking to pick one of these up. It's been probably 30 years since I wore one but my wall has a decidedly sword shaped space on it and I have to fill it with something. I really appreciate the comparison. $500 is a grip of money to invest in a dust collector. Still want one though. Did you know that the model 1859 NCO sword is the oldest weapon in continuous unbroken service in the US military? Semper Fi Brother.
Granted you hit spot on, I have the cheap BUDK sword on the wall as my dust collector. There isn't any visitor to my home who knows the difference just looking at my wall hanging sword display.
If I was a marine nco, I rather have my sword functional, I’m not paying over 500 bucks for non functional piece. I read the marine sword requirements and it says the blade can be any type of steel as long as it has a mirror like polished surface finish with engravings and everything that’s required for a marine nco sword.
What’s interesting to me is that the document doesn’t specify the tang of the blade. So there are different types of tangs for the blade that are out there. I’m not going to explain the many types of tangs because there is a lot of them.
As for the sword’s blade spec go are: 5160 spring steel or 1095 for the blade with Full Tang to have a very sturdy blade. I don’t mind doing maintenance on the sword.
Since the expensive sword you bought is served for ceremonial purposes, the tang is likely rat tail(common), partial tang(common), or half partial-rat tail tang(common). Which is not a functional sword.
You can actually get the same price or cheaper if you went with a functional sword version of the marine nco sword from another company/blacksmith while getting the good craftsmanship work on the brass guard, pommel, leather based brass wired grip, engravings, and serial numbers as the expensive sword you bought.
Thanks for that explanation, it's about useless for us real Marines who strive to be Masters of our traditions. Functional swords in a gunfight just ensure you ending up in a pine box. Now for Cosplay it's just the ticket RLOL! I'm sure functional swords are just the ticket! I have actual combat swords from the Civil War era which are in my personal collection. Have a great day and keep the history alive!
Hey, great video! I, too, served in the Marines (81-84)… and for some reason lately, I’ve been really wanting this sword. I definitely want to go with the authentic & authorized make… Can you tell me, does the authentic version have a sharpened edge? Semper Fi, and thanks for your service to this Great Country!
There is no sharpened edge since the sword is no longer issued for combat or pirate ship boarding. It's Official duty use is just for ceremonies and or official functions in Dress Uniforms. Sorry?
@@sfcrick1 All good sir! Thanks. No, I don’t really care one way or the other, but I asked because I know the cheaper models are just ceremonial and unsharpened - making me wonder if the USMC official NCO sword carried an edge. Thanks… and again, great video!
Thank you for your help 👍
Hey Rick! I was wondering how you were able to acquire an NCO through the Exchange, did you have to call them personally or did you search it up online on their website? I got out a while ago as a Sgt and was saving up money to buy an authentic NCO sword but don't know where to actually get one from a reliable retailer or place.
I actually called the Exchange at Camp LeJeune, NC and talked to Kristy. Here is the phone number, 1 910 451-5030, Semper Fi!
Sir sorry to tell you but the pommel cap is screwed on. The 1861 Austrian officer's sword and the German 1891 officer's sword are both identical the pommel cap of yours and they are screwed on. The German maker of your sword is WK&C one of the very few sword makers today but even theirs are not battle worthy. WK&C droped that standard years ago. The German blade is not engraved but is acid etched.If you truly want a good battle worthy USMC NCO sword go on line auction and find one from about 1900 to 1920.
Thanks for the comments, but it was my goal to have an actual certified by Marine Corps regulation NCO Sword .mission accomplished!
Thank you! I kinda knew this/that , but you confirmed it! NCO from 1975. Semper Fi!
Were you in the Navy too? How about Naval NCO cutlasses?😮
I served on a WW2 Destroyer USS Ault DD-698 on a Caribbean Cruise for 2 weeks in 1973 as a young Cadet before enlisting in the Marines in 1974. Never held a Navy Cutlass. Semper Fi!
I've been trying to find a NCO sword that's fit for combat. Almost all the ones the corps puts out are just for show, but I'd prefer one that can stand up to a proper rampage.
I can tell you might be confused about the use of a sharpened sword. It's a useless archaic tool in the modern age of warfare. We only use NCO Swords as a ceremonial uniform accessory in respect to tradition. It's an honor to be earned for many valued reasons. Using it for "rampage" is foolish and suicidal. Beware and educate why the swords are used.
Never bring a sword to a gunfight!
I’m not a marine or in the military but am interested in owning a real one. Can a non military buy the real sword? I collect swords. Also is the sword sharp from the manufacturer?
I'm sure you must be a military service personnel to buy from the Marine Corps. However, you can buy any commercial sword from the manufacturer retail websites. The sword does not come sharpened since it is for ceremonies only.
It's a stainless steel blade, it's not made for use. If you want a military style sword that could be used to do backyard cutting, windlass makes relatively cheap but decent US military sabres and spadroons.
Can you send me your file Blees ?
They should've never switched to stainless. It's just not suitable for a functional sword which is another reason why many guys just dont care. They aren't real weapons either way. They even used to make them with no blade at all, just a hilt brazed to the scabbard for looks.
I bet you have never been a NCO and had the responsibility to wear and perform in a real ceremonial service armed with a sword. Why even comment? Have a good day!
@@sfcrick1 but he is right stainless steel is not suitable for sword blades.
@@raditicatit's not even a consideration for thought. It's strictly a ceremonial sword which is for specific duty to look and conform to Marine design and be in excellent appearance. Swashbuckleing around in tights isn't a Marines occupation today.
@@sfcrick1 I didn't say the opposite, but that's why I preffer 19th century sabers, I can use them, and the appearance is even better in my opinion (the officer ones).
Why tf isn’t our sabers made in America? 😡
That’s a good question. I visited a factory in Toledo Spain and their work is on par with the German version when it comes to detail.
There is no real reason the USA couldn't make them, but the demand for swords isn't much so a maker would go hungry trying to make enough sales to feed his family. It also takes a great deal of master craftsmanship learned of decades if not centuries to forge and make quality production of these swords. Otherwise you end up with cheap poor imitations.
Solingen, Germany has a very long tradition of quality sword making. They have been producing swords for the US and the UK since at least the mid-1800’s
I think one mention was Germans in that area have been making them since 1520's... which certainly means a generational thing among that population.