Is it alarming that the guy who wants to manage our money thought the clearly telepresence voices in Optimus were AI? Like if that had been real that would have blown away every AI voice demo to date lol. They were just human interactions put through a voice filter and the devices were tele operated, that was even confirmed if you asked anyone.
Maybe the robotaxi IS the low end Tesla. It can also be a commuter car if the full self driving becomes robust. And in the long scheme of things, did it really matter that the Model T was released in 1908 and not 1905. Would that have prevented someone buying Ford stock.
The lower cost model has nothing to do with the Robotaxi event. Not sure why anyone was expecting it. They will come out with it in early 2025. Nothing changed that. Stock will recover. Also the CEO of Stellantis attended the event?
2025 lol. Have you not seen Elon promising FSD for over nearly a decade. Waymo and Cruise are far ahead of Tesla and frankly trusted more by the general public.
I agree. The lower model isn’t relevant here. With EV demand softening, Tesla’s future will depend on the RoboTaxi, not humanoid robots or cheaper EVs. Those are just cheap distractions. If Tesla can’t make the RoboTaxi work, they’re in doomed. Unfortunately, they’re not leading in self-driving technology. Just look at what companies like Waymo and Mobileye are doing. This event shows that clearly.
@@theoaklandpanda9129I agree with your statement. Right now, it’s clear that Tesla is not leading in self-driving vehicles. Waymo is miles ahead, and I agree Cruise is too. I actually can think of 3 or 4 other companies that are ahead of Tesla. IMO, investment decisions shouldn’t be based on emotions or dreams; they should rely on data. @Jimpurewal2661 seems like he's emotionally invested here. You can't debate him (and people like him) using logic. It's probably best to just wish him luck and move on.
@@yad2917 Wrong. You don’t really know Tesla in detail. Robots are the multi trillion opportunity. BTW Tesla is leading autonomous driving as per Jenson Huang and Elon. Waymo is not cost effective, is geofenced and not scalable. Waymo also has remote operators. Tesla is not doomed BTW as they are still EV leader, have an energy business growing rapidly, Tesla semi truck is a massive revenue stream next year and you have FSD and engineering licensing etc etc.
For those of you that missed the most important part, people rode in a car a driven by software operating at level 4 autonomy. It has not been certified level 4. That will take 4-6 months once it is submitted. For anyone that says they can never get to that point, you saw them do it.
The low cost car should be built in Mexico. It will take a while to build the plant with concomitant suppliers nearby. They need the government to exempt them from any future tariffs on Mexican built cars.
Tesla is building the future that people in the world needs. It will take time for people that don't realize it but life will be easier and less expensive with the invention of Tesla. If you don't innovate then you are not going forward to a better life not only for people but for the earth survival
The Robovan has a big marketplace around the world , think of it replacing Big buses. The cost of running a 44 seater bus is huge , these 22 seater mini buses will be so cheap to run that we will see a much bigger bus services around cities . Everyone is forgetting Tesla Mega packs and the power business that is growing fast and is highly profitable .
Tesla's We Robot event was all theatre. There will not be any discernable cash flow from any of these products for 3 years at best. The waters look choppy for Tesla investors in the short to medium term.
Elon has a pattern, he's been promising FSD for nearly a decade. Waymo and Cruise are better setup for owning future. Robot's were controlled remotely. How anyone takes Elon seriously is bananas. He has a cult following and survives off gov't subsidies to his companies.
This event was never going to be about a cheaper Tesla vehicle it’s only you id10ts that thought that even though it was quite clear that this event was going to be solely about automation
The thing that drives me crazy is when I hear capitalist people talking about UBI and abundance. AI and robots are meant to do the jobs that humans don't want to do, but nobody ever says what jobs humans don't want to do, because if somebody's willing to pay for it, somebody's willing to make that money for it.
Elon has promised FSD for nearly a decade. It has yet to happen and Waymo/Cruise far ahead. He promised the roadster years ago. To believe Robotaxi is launching in 2025 (early than he even stated) is insane.
Waymo is up to 100K payed rides per week, and tesla is still talking about Robotaxi in 2026! Tesla had. a great lead with FSD, but is late to the self driving business. Why not accept that they are failing to execute.
Sure the robot voice response wasn't fielded by a remote actor? The "robot" which shook Elon's hand sure looked like a guy in a suit. Lucid has much better tech. Their motor is half the size yet more powerful.
Why is it so hard to understand that Tesla wasn't going to say anything about a new cheaper car at an event about robots? That's not the right forum for talking about that, even disregarding the Osborn effect.
Low cost model segment is nonsensical. The analyst community continue to push this narrative that will not move the ball forward. The US market already has the Chevy Bolt in this segment. Has this elevated GMC in the EV market? If you are an investor who is "investing" b/c of a Tesla Compact, sell now and buy something else.
Elon stammering through the presentation was cringe worthy. What’s this BS about reducing traffic with 2 seater cars?🙄 FSD demo in a controlled environment. His promises from the constant delays are getting tiring. Then this whole shepherd and flock story almost made me puke! Then this life of abundance due to robots?????? Perhaps, but only for him and a select few unless he wants to give buckets full of money to the unemployed?🙄 You Tesla stock pumpers and bag holders are a curious lot!
I think the rise in low priced Chinese EVs made Tesla shelve their plans for a $25-$30K car. Now their fiture is dependent on robotaxi as a service, energy, and robots. Energy profits are growing but it will be some time before robotaxis and robots are profitable.
The boring company has what a few miles of operating tunnels using slow moving cars that are not autonomous. If the can’t do it in a tunnel good luck with the real world!
Folks this was all vaporware. So few details by Elon. We have seen this game from him before. He's past his prime. Tesla needs new leadership. Robotaxi - just 2 seater?? lol
The largest hurdle is full self driving. Teslas vehicles are great and have come a long way just in the past year. It’s a slow rollout in just Texas and California and Once “full” self driving is achieved I believe the realization of robotaxis will be rapid
@@TheMagicJIZZ lol. this is all so silly. To think there will be mass adoption of robotaxis from Tesla when Cruise and Waymo are years ahead of them is wishful thinking my friend. Elon is not a GOD, I am sorry to inform you of that.
Couldn’t disagree with you more Gene, re: the debate on whether Tesla is a tech company. They are an automotive company until they prove otherwise. Repeating a few ideas that’s been around for decades and creating your own prototype doesn’t make them a tech company. I’m surprised that you are so easily convinced without much evidence. Elon has been making promises for close to a decade now and most of his promises have not come to fruition.
@@nickynick1014 let’s agree to disagree. I’ll recognize they’re a tech company when they realize revenue from said technology. I will gladly recognize them as a tech company at that time.
Never promised anything. Just hoped for very good results. He said so too. People who say “Elon promised” are always lying plus we know they never even listened in the first place. Maybe you were just lied to and you bought it but that doesn’t really matter. The lack of factual understanding on the part of the “but he PROMISED” people is the real travesty. Tesla’s are still the only software defined vehicles that are made in mass quantities, that make lots of money and use AI tech in the real world more than any other company on earth. That’s been going in for 8-9 years(!) now and no one else has anything comparable.
@@garyscott9261all that FSD revenue could drown you so what else are you waiting for? Always moving the goal posts and completely misunderstanding what “tech” means. A software defined vehicle IS PURE TECH in the way a Bolt is just a car with some EV equipment. When another car company makes tons of $$$ selling FSD tech then we can say Tesla is just a car company. Until then they are a tech company that dominates the auto industry with a tech laden vehicle the likes of which no one else can understand let alone produce.
Is it alarming that the guy who wants to manage our money thought the clearly telepresence voices in Optimus were AI? Like if that had been real that would have blown away every AI voice demo to date lol. They were just human interactions put through a voice filter and the devices were tele operated, that was even confirmed if you asked anyone.
Maybe the robotaxi IS the low end Tesla. It can also be a commuter car if the full self driving becomes robust. And in the long scheme of things, did it really matter that the Model T was released in 1908 and not 1905. Would that have prevented someone buying Ford stock.
The lower cost model has nothing to do with the Robotaxi event. Not sure why anyone was expecting it. They will come out with it in early 2025. Nothing changed that. Stock will recover. Also the CEO of Stellantis attended the event?
2025 lol. Have you not seen Elon promising FSD for over nearly a decade. Waymo and Cruise are far ahead of Tesla and frankly trusted more by the general public.
@@theoaklandpanda9129 Wrong. Waymo is not scalable and you know little about Tesla FSD. Cruise? LOL.
I agree. The lower model isn’t relevant here. With EV demand softening, Tesla’s future will depend on the RoboTaxi, not humanoid robots or cheaper EVs. Those are just cheap distractions. If Tesla can’t make the RoboTaxi work, they’re in doomed. Unfortunately, they’re not leading in self-driving technology. Just look at what companies like Waymo and Mobileye are doing. This event shows that clearly.
@@theoaklandpanda9129I agree with your statement. Right now, it’s clear that Tesla is not leading in self-driving vehicles. Waymo is miles ahead, and I agree Cruise is too. I actually can think of 3 or 4 other companies that are ahead of Tesla. IMO, investment decisions shouldn’t be based on emotions or dreams; they should rely on data. @Jimpurewal2661 seems like he's emotionally invested here. You can't debate him (and people like him) using logic. It's probably best to just wish him luck and move on.
@@yad2917 Wrong. You don’t really know Tesla in detail. Robots are the multi trillion opportunity. BTW Tesla is leading autonomous driving as per Jenson Huang and Elon. Waymo is not cost effective, is geofenced and not scalable. Waymo also has remote operators. Tesla is not doomed BTW as they are still EV leader, have an energy business growing rapidly, Tesla semi truck is a massive revenue stream next year and you have FSD and engineering licensing etc etc.
If TESLA is not a Tech company, what companies are ?
Heinz Kraft, Burger King
@@TimesNewRoumenlol
For those of you that missed the most important part, people rode in a car a driven by software operating at level 4 autonomy. It has not been certified level 4. That will take 4-6 months once it is submitted. For anyone that says they can never get to that point, you saw them do it.
Sure, around a staged theme park with zero traffic😂
Only a true Elon nut hugger would claim that's L4 in the real world
@@zbenne05 Seen them for years driving around San Francisco and Las Vegas, but not Tesla.
Elon already builds more robots than any other company….and is using them in his TSLA plants…🤗
Referring to the Kuka industrial robots from Japan? Better termed "programmable positioner".
robovan is likely for the public transport tunnels, like in chicago etc.
Dan Ives also completely missing that robo taci is launching next yearbwith 3/y
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Elon is not the guy to pump up the masses.
Everybody talks about Testa autonomous car, but just a few talk about Waymo.
@@fredkite9330 LOL
Tesla needs an App Store for car softwares to bring in more revenue. That’s the only way for Tesla stock to grow in value in a meaningful way.
The low cost car should be built in Mexico. It will take a while to build the plant with concomitant suppliers nearby. They need the government to exempt them from any future tariffs on Mexican built cars.
"Hard (on tech) than any other automotive"? Gene you forget about Hyundai Motors (aka. the owner of Boston Dynamics)
Tesla is building the future that people in the world needs. It will take time for people that don't realize it but life will be easier and less expensive with the invention of Tesla. If you don't innovate then you are not going forward to a better life not only for people but for the earth survival
The Robovan has a big marketplace around the world , think of it replacing Big buses. The cost of running a 44 seater bus is huge , these 22 seater mini buses will be so cheap to run that we will see a much bigger bus services around cities . Everyone is forgetting Tesla Mega packs and the power business that is growing fast and is highly profitable .
With no ground clearance?🙄
Why would Elon say 50% sales growth next year (2.7M deliveries in 2025)?
Because he's a liar
He also said 4.5T by 2025 - So full of crxp
@@keziasarahDid you miss the boat? I’m great full if it goes to 1.5 T😊
was the van built for the boring company
Tesla's We Robot event was all theatre. There will not be any discernable cash flow from any of these products for 3 years at best. The waters look choppy for Tesla investors in the short to medium term.
Elon has a pattern, he's been promising FSD for nearly a decade. Waymo and Cruise are better setup for owning future. Robot's were controlled remotely. How anyone takes Elon seriously is bananas. He has a cult following and survives off gov't subsidies to his companies.
Hahaha your sense is Old m8. Van is awesome. I'm going to live in 1 possibly 2 if it follows me 😂
This event was never going to be about a cheaper Tesla vehicle it’s only you id10ts that thought that even though it was quite clear that this event was going to be solely about automation
Exactly that’s why the called it We Robot
The thing that drives me crazy is when I hear capitalist people talking about UBI and abundance. AI and robots are meant to do the jobs that humans don't want to do, but nobody ever says what jobs humans don't want to do, because if somebody's willing to pay for it, somebody's willing to make that money for it.
Robotaxi is going to be haunches in 2025 via model 3 and Y.okay , keep talking apple, old stuff
Elon has promised FSD for nearly a decade. It has yet to happen and Waymo/Cruise far ahead. He promised the roadster years ago. To believe Robotaxi is launching in 2025 (early than he even stated) is insane.
Elon takes his timing lessons from CERN, where fusion is always 5 years away
You're horrendeously wrong on borh
Waymo is up to 100K payed rides per week, and tesla is still talking about Robotaxi in 2026! Tesla had. a great lead with FSD, but is late to the self driving business. Why not accept that they are failing to execute.
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Sure the robot voice response wasn't fielded by a remote actor? The "robot" which shook Elon's hand sure looked like a guy in a suit. Lucid has much better tech. Their motor is half the size yet more powerful.
Sell me your stock!
Based on this “analysis” time to rename channel to ShallowWater.
Why is it so hard to understand that Tesla wasn't going to say anything about a new cheaper car at an event about robots?
That's not the right forum for talking about that, even disregarding the Osborn effect.
It isn’t hard to understand since they don’t have one in the pipeline bro!🙄
lol Tesla analysis on this channel is so silly …. Come on man
Optimus is as good (or marginally better) than this prototype from 2018: th-cam.com/video/KpqrNpVRuG4/w-d-xo.html
Tesla is Done. How many Tesla's do you think attend Trump Rallies ?? Elon left his customer base
Low cost model segment is nonsensical. The analyst community continue to push this narrative that will not move the ball forward. The US market already has the Chevy Bolt in this segment. Has this elevated GMC in the EV market?
If you are an investor who is "investing" b/c of a Tesla Compact, sell now and buy something else.
Elon stammering through the presentation was cringe worthy.
What’s this BS about reducing traffic with 2 seater cars?🙄
FSD demo in a controlled environment. His promises from the constant delays are getting tiring.
Then this whole shepherd and flock story almost made me puke!
Then this life of abundance due to robots?????? Perhaps, but only for him and a select few unless he wants to give buckets full of money to the unemployed?🙄
You Tesla stock pumpers and bag holders are a curious lot!
Crying on the sidelines won’t help. You need to get your feet wet.
I think the rise in low priced Chinese EVs made Tesla shelve their plans for a $25-$30K car.
Now their fiture is dependent on robotaxi as a service, energy, and robots. Energy profits are growing but it will be some time before robotaxis and robots are profitable.
Tesla is an AI company. and the robovan combined with the boring company will outperform buses.
The boring company has what a few miles of operating tunnels using slow moving cars that are not autonomous. If the can’t do it in a tunnel good luck with the real world!
Folks this was all vaporware. So few details by Elon. We have seen this game from him before. He's past his prime. Tesla needs new leadership. Robotaxi - just 2 seater?? lol
The largest hurdle is full self driving. Teslas vehicles are great and have come a long way just in the past year.
It’s a slow rollout in just Texas and California and Once “full” self driving is achieved I believe the realization of robotaxis will be rapid
Every Tesla is a robotaxi
It you four seats get a model 3
@@TheMagicJIZZ lol. this is all so silly. To think there will be mass adoption of robotaxis from Tesla when Cruise and Waymo are years ahead of them is wishful thinking my friend. Elon is not a GOD, I am sorry to inform you of that.
what have you designed lately??
ROFL. It picked up passengers, drove them around, and dropped them off safely in an urban environment. Vaporware? Ridiculous.
Couldn’t disagree with you more Gene, re: the debate on whether Tesla is a tech company. They are an automotive company until they prove otherwise. Repeating a few ideas that’s been around for decades and creating your own prototype doesn’t make them a tech company. I’m surprised that you are so easily convinced without much evidence. Elon has been making promises for close to a decade now and most of his promises have not come to fruition.
Gary you’ll recognize they’re a tech company when you buy almost any other brand and find yourself at the dealership to get a software update
And Amazon was just a bookstore
Google was just a search engine!
Apple just a computer company
@@nickynick1014 let’s agree to disagree. I’ll recognize they’re a tech company when they realize revenue from said technology. I will gladly recognize them as a tech company at that time.
Never promised anything. Just hoped for very good results. He said so too.
People who say “Elon promised” are always lying plus we know they never even listened in the first place.
Maybe you were just lied to and you bought it but that doesn’t really matter.
The lack of factual understanding on the part of the “but he PROMISED” people is the real travesty.
Tesla’s are still the only software defined vehicles that are made in mass quantities, that make lots of money and use AI tech in the real world more than any other company on earth.
That’s been going in for 8-9 years(!) now and no one else has anything comparable.
@@garyscott9261all that FSD revenue could drown you so what else are you waiting for? Always moving the goal posts and completely misunderstanding what “tech” means. A software defined vehicle IS PURE TECH in the way a Bolt is just a car with some EV equipment.
When another car company makes tons of $$$ selling FSD tech then we can say Tesla is just a car company. Until then they are a tech company that dominates the auto industry with a tech laden vehicle the likes of which no one else can understand let alone produce.