Tougher schedule to start can be good or bad. Nobody is intentionally tanking before 2025. They may do better than expected. Most teams, especially the 'better' ones aren't necessarily giving their all right away. Conversely, the younger teams are still gelling, but also wanting to prove themselves. Let this team cook. See what they can do. Don't manipulate matchups to actively tank. Win and lose on one's own merit. Let the cards fall where they may. Even if there is an extended tough stretch earlier on, it would be interesting to see how the last half of the season goes against the 'easier' schedule and against teams who have actively given up. While hopefully growing in the chemistry and fit department. Let the roster work it out. Being a late lottery team (with a chance to move up) isn't bad, and being a play-in first round exit isn't bad either. Of course there should likely be some tweaks along the way, but don't sell just to intentionally tank. They're bad enough to be bad-ish, and at the same time potentially good enough to be decent. I, personally would like to see it happen on the court, more than from the office.
maybe if they were in the wnba. raptors have no bench and play zero defence and no one on the entire team can take a player off the dribble to create their own shot. means teams like blazers that put the raptors in the half court and beat them last season. every team can do the same to raptors.
All you so-called Raptor fans need to check yourselves and stop dissin the team, the fact we won a championship recently and had to rebuild is what it is. Patience, we're gonna do well, believe.. If you are REAL fans, you'd stand by your team, ALWAYS. Its BBQ TIME.
Men get lost . Raps did not have to rebuild. Ujiri made a shit load of blunders and then had no choice but to create this excuse oh we r rebuilding. . Changes could have being made without such demise of the franchise. So yeh you can’t tell fans not to be mad.
@@vintagejo4159 I think you need to learn to read, at no time did I say that you can't be mad about the team, what i said was stop dissin. Maybe if YOU ran the team we'd be winning championships every year, slow it down bandwagoner.
@@tristonfanfair men I am not even mad at the team . I am furious at ujiri and Webster , two no ballers . No way raps should be at the bottom of the shit pile . Look at all the players that ujiri send packing , now look at their contracts. He could have built around rather than total collapsed. If one of the bbq pack get injured what will happen to raps.? Also a fact to keep in mind is IQ is 150 lb soaking wet , who the hell he gona defend.? He is one of the best shooter in the nba but watch and see ujiri will demand he plays max min and demand two way game . This will only put him at risk.
@benrogers when the raptors are 2 wins with 12 losses in first 14 games, masai wont have to wait till january to start bottoming out the team. masai can start trading kelly olynyk, jakob poeltl, bruce brown, boucher, in december. then play ochai agbaji like 35 minutes a game and let him be the tank commander along with darko.
You kids emotions are a complete roller coaster lol.. I would have 2nd hand embarrassment being near you acting like 12 year old girls just hitting puberty
If your scenario is true, why should the anyone think Masai and GM Webster are the ones should be the decision makers in making the Raptors a contenders again.
@@jimclarence5441 Danny Ainge been doing the same thing with his mediocre team. One of the best GMs in NBA history. You saying getting top end talent is bad or something? (I don't think we should, but it would be better than getting stuck in 6th place for 8 years)
@@ScottieDPOYY You seem to have trouble reading my posts. I just think the Raptors have had terrible management in the past five years in acquiring top end (excluding Scottie) or even talent to be a middling team. The President and GM have been horrible in trading and drafting. These two guys have to go....They have to go for the sake of the franchise....that's my opinion. Don't how logical person would think this thought would be anti Raptor, or anti Raptor fan.
Not here to discuss the Raps schedule or how successful next season's team will be. My question is, how does a top notch team like the 76'ers sign Yabusele as a depth forward when he killed in the Olympics and could have improved a team like the Raptors?
Wait, you are under the impression if you want someone you get them? Who's to say 15 teams didn't try? Do we also want to add wins to this roster 6 months into a rebuild?? I don't know, I would say not myself
@@ScottieDPOYY Not sure the attitude was necessary, so back at you. I guess by your view we should trade away anyone that isn't named Scottie, IQ, or RJ so we can go balls deep on a chance to win the lottery and troll anyone that suggests otherwise.
@@nerrawnarco5632 Nahhh, sorry. The comment section was wildly whiney and I called some folks out. You were towards the end of that, you fine.. my bad. As for my opinion, I sit right in the middle. Our team isn't loaded enough with talent to start pushing towards the top of the East but I like a lot of our young core at the same time. I think we just need to chill out and have a season of development over grinding out wins. If some injuries happen and we get a low seed, so be it. If we finish late lottery and we had a solid year that maintains health of our guys (not playing them 42 mins a game to get some wins) I also call that a win. Can make moves later, we aren't in some big rush right now to go get a Brandon Ingram for instance like so many believe we are. To me that just ruins this team and its future. Everyone just needs to be patient and let this team work and let Darko devlop these guys. Maybe Darko himself grows as a coach and proves he can do more than just develop too. A lot of questions that need time to be answered imo. Again, sorry for the sass lol.. Raps fans can be a bunch of Diva's.. can't just talk ball anymore. Just complain.. so I light them up for the last 6 months
@@ScottieDPOYY Fair enough. I also wasn't sold on the idea of trying to trade for Ingram. I just think the Raptors have a history of getting roughed up in the paint and it would have been nice to have a guy like Yabusele to push back a bit, you know. I agree that we can't expect the Raptors to contend this year nor should we. It would be nice if we develop not just skills but a team identity of hard work, playing a full 48 and not letting up or backing down.
@@nerrawnarco5632 Agreed, I am always pushing back on the Yak hate because of that, we should still field atleast a propper roster (true Center). Plus Yak actually fits our offence as a hub/good passer. In a perfect world we have some ups and fowns but still manage a decent pick while everyone clearly starts to gel and grow. Though I am of the belief we have a fairly complete team (minus PF spot) and if all does go well, we could even sneak in past a miami and get top6 to 8 seed as well. I just worry if we don't get talent in the door as a freshly rebuilt team we will forever be in the middle with no ring ever in sight. Its a tough spot to be in but there are worse spots to be. BBQ is better/has more potential than people realise. RJ played like an All Star as a Raptor and he feels like an after thought
@@PShoota43 He is literally just giving the other option available to us because everyone always crying on here.. its actually insane how sad you people are. Go cry elsewhere eith your boys
MU says he does not like to work around and is not talented enough to work around the trade-line. Raps should “Tank” hard and find future C and big wing in next year’s draft. Use our tanked pick and then use Portland’s second and Indy’s 2016 to trade back into the 2025 mid to late first round to add to BBQ to make your future starting 5. In 2024 we drafted lots of future role players with Gradey. Develop them and get more talent in 2025 draft. You might not have to move JP as he will be in 5 years the same age as Marc G was in 2019. Having good vets with BB IQ helps younger players develop and JP fits that.
reality if if 1 or two out of the 4 players they drafted in 2024 end up as bench players, that is a success. the key will be if they can shoot the 3, if not they are just like a ochai agbaji best case.
“We’re not sure if we’re here to contend.” ahhhhhhh…. Are you feeling okay Ben? Could easily go 5-20 in the first month or two. We are a playin team at best. Heck I’ll donate $50 AUD to the channel if we’re within 2 games of 500 come end of December. 🤝
Everyone forgets how garbage the bottom of the east is, we are at minimal a play in team and potentially an injury away from the 6 seed. I see this a lot, you really telling me Detroit, Charlotte, Brooklyn, Atlanta, Chicago, Washington is some scary east we can't get any wins in? I hope we bottom out but theres a lot of stank in the east
@@sweetchillyphillyc9383 "Play in team at best", again, no we are atleast that. I never said nothing about contending, I agree lol. We are not contenders
@benrogers you smoking crack if you think by january raptors are buyers. first 14 games raptors likely win 2 games. until end of december if raptors steal 3 games they can have at best 5 wins. raptors content creators are gonna be doing draft preview in november this season.
Are we championship ready? I say save the consideration and just TANK from jump! Tanking gets us another top pick and we’re at the top of the leagues for years after instead of trying with an incomplete group and suffering for several more years
raptors wont be tanking, with that schedule, they will be legit bad enough to be 2 wins 12 losses in first 14 games. that is if they get the wins against hornets and pistons.
@@vintagepimpage6049 dont worry scottie barnes couldnt even iso marvin bagley who is a bad defender to score, and his ball handling during last season didnt look like it improved.
We should tank for Cooper! Getting the number 1 lottery pick next year with our current core, will set the raptors up to contend for many years to come.
Dude, its going to be another tank job. A bunch of young guys who struggle with defence and making shots. The coming 2025 draft there are at least 5 guys at the top that are blue chippers to make this team better for the next 10 years. This team can’t sign big time free agents so the draft is the only way. OKC, Spurs, Magic and Rockets are better because of tanking and drafting.
"Tank" seems to imply....a deliberate act by the team management to fail. I have faith in the Raptors management that the Raptors will be in the bottom five, due to complete incompetence of Raptors management and their inability to assemble even a a middling team.
@@jimclarence5441I have faith that our "fans" will never grow up and move on from anything and instead just stay as bitter old cat ladies who bring up the past constantly and whine about every little thing
I would ask non realistic homers to say your illogical positivity. I don't blame the players. Raptors management has been horrid in assembling a even middling NBA team for the past five years.
@@jimclarence5441Its on you that you can't distinguish noy being a giant baby and crying over every little thing and dwelling om the past like a miserable child for months on end vs people who understand rebuilds and are aware it takes time
@@ScottieDPOYY Gee, I know a rebuilding takes time. It's just that I don't think the current President and GM are the people that do the job. Past five years, those two guys have made horrible trades and drafts.
@@jimclarence5441 Every trade they made minus the Pascal one has been fine.. we haven't made many trades. You mad we let the GROAT walk in a sign and trade? Fred was supposed to stay by their books to continue that squad. OG was a great haul considering the time of the trade, Pascals was rough for sure. Their blunder was a lack of trading people and not seeing it coming to an end before it came. Everyone agrees.. and? We going to dwell on that forever. This has been stated a million times.. we all know how you feel. As for drafting.. their tenure as a whole has been great.. they have found multiple diamonds in the rough. Had some misfires but ALLLLL GMs do.. its the draft lol. Its a crapshoot. So while you have some reason to be mad, I mean I didn't like the lack of trades either but I understood them trying to make it work as well. Other than that they whiffed on a couple of late drafts but its been nothing but good other than that. You guys act like we are Detroit here.. meanwhile we were the 2nd most winning team in the kast decade coming into last season. When we going to let it go and move forward?
@@jimclarence5441 Every trade they made minus the Pascal one has been fine.. we haven't made many trades. You mad we let the GROAT walk in a sign and trade? Fred was supposed to stay by their books to continue that squad. OG was a great haul considering the time of the trade, Pascals was rough for sure. Their blunder was a lack of trading people and not seeing it coming to an end before it came. Everyone agrees.. and? We going to dwell on that forever? This has been stated a million times.. we all know how you feel. As for drafting.. their tenure as a whole has been great.. they have found multiple diamonds in the rough. Had some misfires but ALLLLL GMs do.. its the draft lol. Its a crapshoot. So while you have some reason to be mad, I mean I didn't like the lack of trades either but I understood them trying to make it work as well. Other than that they whiffed on a couple of late drafts but its been nothing but good other than that. You guys act like we are Detroit here.. meanwhile we were the 2nd most winning team in the last decade coming into last season. When we going to let it go and move forward?
Poeltl is not one of the better big men in the league, I’m sorry.. can’t shoot, can’t free throw… two big components of being an all around big man in todays league
Except there aren't many big men who can do it all at all.... thats the issue with you kids crying about Yak. He brings 3 of the best skills he can.. at rim finishing, defending the paint and acts as a hub at the top. Far more valuable than a 3 pt shooting no defence bum yet always with with the tears out here...
@@ScottieDPOYY loved him since the bench mob but our big man is a liability if he’s shooting like 50% from ft and you can’t play him to close out games. And I grew up watching Vince, Oak, Antonio Davis, Voshon Lenard, Mo Pete, Keon Clark. “Kids” lol
@@k-notes5904 Ok, well sorry for lumping you in with the whiney ones. Theres a ton of Yak hate on here. I claim he sits somewhere in the 14th to 17th range (15) of Centers on earth. He is a top 5 rim protector (easily, the advanced stats would say top 3) and he fits a movement style of offence, which is the kind we run. Now you cannot have top 5 at every position, your team would cost you 300 mil with cheap role players so considering that plus the fact that we can't just go and grab Wemby, Chet, Embiid or Jokic.. unless I missed something? Even every one want Claxton, Claxton can't handle the true bigs at all and can't actually shoot 3s so even he was more of a side trade. The most important thing a big can do is be an anchor, which is definitely Poetls best skill. Thr alternative is a Kelly Olynyk type who just gets torched all game and the opposing team just having lay up lines out there. Sure he can shoot, but at what cost? Plus every game Yak plays, he plays great and we actually have a good record with him on the court.. he fits the Raptors. To me, he is the perfect fit for right now. Solid guy with good IQ that can help the youngins grow and be a competent team while bringing in a young guy to learn from him. Masai 100% views it this way too.. its what he tried to do with Koloko and its what he trying to do with Comche. Thats our root to a good Center who fits the timeline better.. its not to complain about a homegrown guy who is actually a championship type of center on the right team. Yea I hear you, free throws but again, good Centers don't fall off of trees and he is an elite anchor. Flank him with good forwards and guards you 100% have a team. I guess my point is, instead of hating on the guy, lets apreciate what we got and continue to build forward.. not dwell on something we can't change overnight. Unless you actually have a reasonable take that Masai could accomplish like getting Donovan Clingen somehow? Or who and how? Anyway, cheers to the 90s ball, I watched those cats too
@@k-notes5904 Hartenstein is a fairly similar player.. he just turned OKC into a top contender down there. Be curious to see how that works out but I guess I just adding on to the point.. it depends who you got around top 10 to 20 Centers
I tend to agree with assessment. But why do some fans think the President and GM who have such terrible trades and drafts in the past five years should still be decision makers going forward.
Tougher schedule to start can be good or bad. Nobody is intentionally tanking before 2025. They may do better than expected. Most teams, especially the 'better' ones aren't necessarily giving their all right away. Conversely, the younger teams are still gelling, but also wanting to prove themselves.
Let this team cook. See what they can do. Don't manipulate matchups to actively tank. Win and lose on one's own merit. Let the cards fall where they may.
Even if there is an extended tough stretch earlier on, it would be interesting to see how the last half of the season goes against the 'easier' schedule and against teams who have actively given up. While hopefully growing in the chemistry and fit department.
Let the roster work it out. Being a late lottery team (with a chance to move up) isn't bad, and being a play-in first round exit isn't bad either. Of course there should likely be some tweaks along the way, but don't sell just to intentionally tank. They're bad enough to be bad-ish, and at the same time potentially good enough to be decent. I, personally would like to see it happen on the court, more than from the office.
@@notDonaldFagen a balanced point that doesn't involve tears? 👍
Spot on, well said, not an emotional Karen. Magnificent work
I think the trio BBQ is going to make a huge leap this year. I think we will be competing for a play in spot
I think this is reasonable. This young core wants to compete. Hope they get some sneaky wins start of the season to change peoples perspectives
Lol 😂 not unless sloppy barnes goes down for the year
maybe if they were in the wnba. raptors have no bench and play zero defence and no one on the entire team can take a player off the dribble to create their own shot. means teams like blazers that put the raptors in the half court and beat them last season. every team can do the same to raptors.
@giovanni-ed7zq quickly and Barrett can both take players off the dribble
@@giovanni-ed7zq are you talking about the game in October when we had a completely different team or the one in March with no Barnes, yak or Barret?
Dude, you gotta update your free agency scroll. You still say Gary Trent Jr is TBD when he's been a Buck for weeks.
All you so-called Raptor fans need to check yourselves and stop dissin the team, the fact we won a championship recently and had to rebuild is what it is. Patience, we're gonna do well, believe.. If you are REAL fans, you'd stand by your team, ALWAYS. Its BBQ TIME.
Agree!❤
That's true. Many who criticized the team forget they are human
Men get lost . Raps did not have to rebuild. Ujiri made a shit load of blunders and then had no choice but to create this excuse oh we r rebuilding. . Changes could have being made without such demise of the franchise. So yeh you can’t tell fans not to be mad.
@@vintagejo4159 I think you need to learn to read, at no time did I say that you can't be mad about the team, what i said was stop dissin. Maybe if YOU ran the team we'd be winning championships every year, slow it down bandwagoner.
@@tristonfanfair men I am not even mad at the team . I am furious at ujiri and Webster , two no ballers . No way raps should be at the bottom of the shit pile . Look at all the players that ujiri send packing , now look at their contracts. He could have built around rather than total collapsed. If one of the bbq pack get injured what will happen to raps.? Also a fact to keep in mind is IQ is 150 lb soaking wet , who the hell he gona defend.? He is one of the best shooter in the nba but watch and see ujiri will demand he plays max min and demand two way game . This will only put him at risk.
@benrogers when the raptors are 2 wins with 12 losses in first 14 games, masai wont have to wait till january to start bottoming out the team. masai can start trading kelly olynyk, jakob poeltl, bruce brown, boucher, in december. then play ochai agbaji like 35 minutes a game and let him be the tank commander along with darko.
I hear the Knicks are looking for some bandwagon fans
You kids emotions are a complete roller coaster lol.. I would have 2nd hand embarrassment being near you acting like 12 year old girls just hitting puberty
If your scenario is true, why should the anyone think Masai and GM Webster are the ones should be the decision makers in making the Raptors a contenders again.
@@jimclarence5441 Danny Ainge been doing the same thing with his mediocre team. One of the best GMs in NBA history. You saying getting top end talent is bad or something? (I don't think we should, but it would be better than getting stuck in 6th place for 8 years)
@@ScottieDPOYY You seem to have trouble reading my posts. I just think the Raptors have had terrible management in the past five years in acquiring top end (excluding Scottie) or even talent to be a middling team. The President and GM have been horrible in trading and drafting. These two guys have to go....They have to go for the sake of the franchise....that's my opinion. Don't how logical person would think this thought would be anti Raptor, or anti Raptor fan.
Not here to discuss the Raps schedule or how successful next season's team will be. My question is, how does a top notch team like the 76'ers sign Yabusele as a depth forward when he killed in the Olympics and could have improved a team like the Raptors?
Wait, you are under the impression if you want someone you get them? Who's to say 15 teams didn't try? Do we also want to add wins to this roster 6 months into a rebuild?? I don't know, I would say not myself
@@ScottieDPOYY Not sure the attitude was necessary, so back at you. I guess by your view we should trade away anyone that isn't named Scottie, IQ, or RJ so we can go balls deep on a chance to win the lottery and troll anyone that suggests otherwise.
@@nerrawnarco5632 Nahhh, sorry. The comment section was wildly whiney and I called some folks out. You were towards the end of that, you fine.. my bad. As for my opinion, I sit right in the middle. Our team isn't loaded enough with talent to start pushing towards the top of the East but I like a lot of our young core at the same time. I think we just need to chill out and have a season of development over grinding out wins. If some injuries happen and we get a low seed, so be it. If we finish late lottery and we had a solid year that maintains health of our guys (not playing them 42 mins a game to get some wins) I also call that a win. Can make moves later, we aren't in some big rush right now to go get a Brandon Ingram for instance like so many believe we are. To me that just ruins this team and its future. Everyone just needs to be patient and let this team work and let Darko devlop these guys. Maybe Darko himself grows as a coach and proves he can do more than just develop too. A lot of questions that need time to be answered imo. Again, sorry for the sass lol.. Raps fans can be a bunch of Diva's.. can't just talk ball anymore. Just complain.. so I light them up for the last 6 months
@@ScottieDPOYY Fair enough. I also wasn't sold on the idea of trying to trade for Ingram. I just think the Raptors have a history of getting roughed up in the paint and it would have been nice to have a guy like Yabusele to push back a bit, you know. I agree that we can't expect the Raptors to contend this year nor should we. It would be nice if we develop not just skills but a team identity of hard work, playing a full 48 and not letting up or backing down.
@@nerrawnarco5632 Agreed, I am always pushing back on the Yak hate because of that, we should still field atleast a propper roster (true Center). Plus Yak actually fits our offence as a hub/good passer. In a perfect world we have some ups and fowns but still manage a decent pick while everyone clearly starts to gel and grow. Though I am of the belief we have a fairly complete team (minus PF spot) and if all does go well, we could even sneak in past a miami and get top6 to 8 seed as well. I just worry if we don't get talent in the door as a freshly rebuilt team we will forever be in the middle with no ring ever in sight. Its a tough spot to be in but there are worse spots to be. BBQ is better/has more potential than people realise. RJ played like an All Star as a Raptor and he feels like an after thought
I don’t understand why casuals are afraid of competition.. If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best.
2:23-2:46 ur boy ben is already having doubts about Scottie 🤣🤣🤣
@@PShoota43 He is literally just giving the other option available to us because everyone always crying on here.. its actually insane how sad you people are. Go cry elsewhere eith your boys
@@PShoota43 He just replying to all the whiners, go cry in some discord with your boys or something
@@ScottieDPOYY LMAOOO🤣🤣🤣
MU says he does not like to work around and is not talented enough to work around the trade-line. Raps should “Tank” hard and find future C and big wing in next year’s draft. Use our tanked pick and then use Portland’s second and Indy’s 2016 to trade back into the 2025 mid to late first round to add to BBQ to make your future starting 5. In 2024 we drafted lots of future role players with Gradey. Develop them and get more talent in 2025 draft. You might not have to move JP as he will be in 5 years the same age as Marc G was in 2019. Having good vets with BB IQ helps younger players develop and JP fits that.
Or trade barnes for a an actual winner
reality if if 1 or two out of the 4 players they drafted in 2024 end up as bench players, that is a success. the key will be if they can shoot the 3, if not they are just like a ochai agbaji best case.
“We’re not sure if we’re here to contend.” ahhhhhhh…. Are you feeling okay Ben? Could easily go 5-20 in the first month or two.
We are a playin team at best. Heck I’ll donate $50 AUD to the channel if we’re within 2 games of 500 come end of December. 🤝
Everyone forgets how garbage the bottom of the east is, we are at minimal a play in team and potentially an injury away from the 6 seed. I see this a lot, you really telling me Detroit, Charlotte, Brooklyn, Atlanta, Chicago, Washington is some scary east we can't get any wins in? I hope we bottom out but theres a lot of stank in the east
That still puts us in a playin spot g. Not anything to write home about. Certainly not contention status.
@@sweetchillyphillyc9383 "Play in team at best", again, no we are atleast that. I never said nothing about contending, I agree lol. We are not contenders
This guys literally just watches pensare basketball and copies his thoughts into videos lowkey lmfao. 😂 like bro …. 💀
@benrogers you smoking crack if you think by january raptors are buyers. first 14 games raptors likely win 2 games. until end of december if raptors steal 3 games they can have at best 5 wins.
raptors content creators are gonna be doing draft preview in november this season.
Meh, atleast they aren't incel's with the emotional stability of a toddler
Meh, atleast they don't like little baby. The east is hot garbage.. it will be hard to out tank the many tank commanders. Just straight whining..
Raptors are winning 7 of their 9 starts so 7-2
Are we championship ready? I say save the consideration and just TANK from jump! Tanking gets us another top pick and we’re at the top of the leagues for years after instead of trying with an incomplete group and suffering for several more years
Don't worry with Scottie as the "leader" we are getting a top 5 pick
raptors wont be tanking, with that schedule, they will be legit bad enough to be 2 wins 12 losses in first 14 games. that is if they get the wins against hornets and pistons.
@@giovanni-ed7zq that's wishful for even 2 lol
@@vintagepimpage6049 dont worry scottie barnes couldnt even iso marvin bagley who is a bad defender to score, and his ball handling during last season didnt look like it improved.
@@vintagepimpage6049 hornets and pistons are the 2 wins, so its possible. the rest are playoff teams so unlikely.
We should tank for Cooper! Getting the number 1 lottery pick next year with our current core, will set the raptors up to contend for many years to come.
Dude, its going to be another tank job. A bunch of young guys who struggle with defence and making shots. The coming 2025 draft there are at least 5 guys at the top that are blue chippers to make this team better for the next 10 years. This team can’t sign big time free agents so the draft is the only way. OKC, Spurs, Magic and Rockets are better because of tanking and drafting.
"Tank" seems to imply....a deliberate act by the team management to fail. I have faith in the Raptors management that the Raptors will be in the bottom five, due to complete incompetence of Raptors management and their inability to assemble even a a middling team.
@@jimclarence5441I have faith that our "fans" will never grow up and move on from anything and instead just stay as bitter old cat ladies who bring up the past constantly and whine about every little thing
@@ScottieDPOYY right. after winning a chip 5 years prior. these bandwagoners kill me lol
We are definitely headed to the top 5 lottery with sloppie barnes as the "leader"
Mufffinn, you going to have one long miserable year aren't ya. Incel life must be hard
This team is going to be trash just like last year. Masai hasn't done enough to improve this roster.
Thats how rebuilds work pal
It’s called a rebuild young man. This will show who the real fans are
They were decent after barret came over I'm thinking they sneak in via play in route
Who knows
Keeping the receipts
to anyone who has nothing good to say here please save your negativity we dont need that bs this season good vibes only😊
I would ask non realistic homers to say your illogical positivity. I don't blame the players. Raptors management has been horrid in assembling a even middling NBA team for the past five years.
@@jimclarence5441Its on you that you can't distinguish noy being a giant baby and crying over every little thing and dwelling om the past like a miserable child for months on end vs people who understand rebuilds and are aware it takes time
@@ScottieDPOYY Gee, I know a rebuilding takes time. It's just that I don't think the current President and GM are the people that do the job. Past five years, those two guys have made horrible trades and drafts.
@@jimclarence5441 Every trade they made minus the Pascal one has been fine.. we haven't made many trades. You mad we let the GROAT walk in a sign and trade? Fred was supposed to stay by their books to continue that squad. OG was a great haul considering the time of the trade, Pascals was rough for sure. Their blunder was a lack of trading people and not seeing it coming to an end before it came. Everyone agrees.. and? We going to dwell on that forever. This has been stated a million times.. we all know how you feel. As for drafting.. their tenure as a whole has been great.. they have found multiple diamonds in the rough. Had some misfires but ALLLLL GMs do.. its the draft lol. Its a crapshoot. So while you have some reason to be mad, I mean I didn't like the lack of trades either but I understood them trying to make it work as well. Other than that they whiffed on a couple of late drafts but its been nothing but good other than that. You guys act like we are Detroit here.. meanwhile we were the 2nd most winning team in the kast decade coming into last season. When we going to let it go and move forward?
@@jimclarence5441 Every trade they made minus the Pascal one has been fine.. we haven't made many trades. You mad we let the GROAT walk in a sign and trade? Fred was supposed to stay by their books to continue that squad. OG was a great haul considering the time of the trade, Pascals was rough for sure. Their blunder was a lack of trading people and not seeing it coming to an end before it came. Everyone agrees.. and? We going to dwell on that forever? This has been stated a million times.. we all know how you feel. As for drafting.. their tenure as a whole has been great.. they have found multiple diamonds in the rough. Had some misfires but ALLLLL GMs do.. its the draft lol. Its a crapshoot. So while you have some reason to be mad, I mean I didn't like the lack of trades either but I understood them trying to make it work as well. Other than that they whiffed on a couple of late drafts but its been nothing but good other than that. You guys act like we are Detroit here.. meanwhile we were the 2nd most winning team in the last decade coming into last season. When we going to let it go and move forward?
Poeltl is not one of the better big men in the league, I’m sorry.. can’t shoot, can’t free throw… two big components of being an all around big man in todays league
Except there aren't many big men who can do it all at all.... thats the issue with you kids crying about Yak. He brings 3 of the best skills he can.. at rim finishing, defending the paint and acts as a hub at the top. Far more valuable than a 3 pt shooting no defence bum yet always with with the tears out here...
@@ScottieDPOYY loved him since the bench mob but our big man is a liability if he’s shooting like 50% from ft and you can’t play him to close out games. And I grew up watching Vince, Oak, Antonio Davis, Voshon Lenard, Mo Pete, Keon Clark. “Kids” lol
@@k-notes5904 Ok, well sorry for lumping you in with the whiney ones. Theres a ton of Yak hate on here. I claim he sits somewhere in the 14th to 17th range (15) of Centers on earth. He is a top 5 rim protector (easily, the advanced stats would say top 3) and he fits a movement style of offence, which is the kind we run. Now you cannot have top 5 at every position, your team would cost you 300 mil with cheap role players so considering that plus the fact that we can't just go and grab Wemby, Chet, Embiid or Jokic.. unless I missed something? Even every one want Claxton, Claxton can't handle the true bigs at all and can't actually shoot 3s so even he was more of a side trade. The most important thing a big can do is be an anchor, which is definitely Poetls best skill. Thr alternative is a Kelly Olynyk type who just gets torched all game and the opposing team just having lay up lines out there. Sure he can shoot, but at what cost? Plus every game Yak plays, he plays great and we actually have a good record with him on the court.. he fits the Raptors. To me, he is the perfect fit for right now. Solid guy with good IQ that can help the youngins grow and be a competent team while bringing in a young guy to learn from him. Masai 100% views it this way too.. its what he tried to do with Koloko and its what he trying to do with Comche. Thats our root to a good Center who fits the timeline better.. its not to complain about a homegrown guy who is actually a championship type of center on the right team. Yea I hear you, free throws but again, good Centers don't fall off of trees and he is an elite anchor. Flank him with good forwards and guards you 100% have a team. I guess my point is, instead of hating on the guy, lets apreciate what we got and continue to build forward.. not dwell on something we can't change overnight. Unless you actually have a reasonable take that Masai could accomplish like getting Donovan Clingen somehow? Or who and how? Anyway, cheers to the 90s ball, I watched those cats too
@@k-notes5904 Hartenstein is a fairly similar player.. he just turned OKC into a top contender down there. Be curious to see how that works out but I guess I just adding on to the point.. it depends who you got around top 10 to 20 Centers
I tend to agree with assessment. But why do some fans think the President and GM who have such terrible trades and drafts in the past five years should still be decision makers going forward.
Lol. 1 and 9 to start this season.