But my XXX does 50mph with only 6kw. What’s the deal? Also, please include the XXx in your comparisons as many of us are considering it because of its price point and it competes.
I think you point out an important problem when comparing these bikes. These manufactures all claim different KW ratings but we have no idea how they get this figure. Do they get this figure from a full charge or nominal voltage or average power throughout the battery discharge. Do they measure the millisecond spikes or a .1 second average. Do they just use real world testing like on a dyno or do they just go off what the controller is set to target and not even factor in voltage sag. Plus then we get into the torque or phase amps, even at the same KW a bike with more torque should accelerate faster off the line. Then we also need to look at like on the Altis do they have any external factors like limiting power due to battery temps. All of this to say when manufactures don't have standards for testing, independent testing is always the best so thank you TB!
You guys ROCK! For the money, riight now in time, the 3.0 seems like a over-all winner! My fingers are crossed that I win the Talaria Boys 3.0 contest!
Thanks for the review. Love the reverse feature! Of all the improvements on all of these bikes, one would think they would do something with the most inefficient kickstand design ever. In the woods, I just lay mine down because it is inevitable these bikes are going to tip. Saves me a grip/brake lever bill.
Good review guys! I spoke with them recently about potentially giving the bike an in-depth review as well. Hoping to see how it compares to some other bikes I have here. I have a couple stock talarias and some other ones to compare it too if it could be a valuable option for quality of tech and power too. I'm in michigan so it would be cool to see the E-motos pick up a little more over here! I've gotten like 8 people to buy some bikes since last year lol
I want the altis sigma, but I'm not sure about those key cards to start it one guy couldn't shut his off on a video you have to press the key card against the display
Hey love your vids. If I could put in a suggestion for the giveaway. I’d buy the hoodie but I don’t actually like or wear hoodies, so it wouldn’t be much use to me. So instead I’m going to buy the T-shirt but then I won’t get 8,000 entries. If you could put a T-shirt option that lets you get the full 8000 entries, like maybe a dual-shirt bundle pack priced appropriately, I feel like that would be more fair to those of us who don’t wear hoodies!
For every merch option you buy you get extra entries, if you just buy 2 shirts you’ll get 5000x2 or x3 if you buy three. There isn’t a limit on any of it
The entries just kinda go off of the price of the merch which is why a hoodie gets more than a shirt. But you can always buy multiple for more enteries
Brahs I NEED to win that bike (E-ride pro) ! Wish I could afford a shirt but I am dead broke and having to move because I cannot get a job where I am currently living. This would help so damn much with commuting in the new city I'm moving to! Plus I wanna join the E-moto community out there soooo bad! Falcon pro seems pretty sick! Keep up the great content!
Once again, I tried to enter the giveaway and it was not possible. You clicked the link for the giveaway and it just takes you to sample of 5 products page that have been tagged. What’s the deal?
I had to switch it backwards because the thicker gel in the front of the seat cover and it wraps around the sides of the seat everybody's going to start getting them soon way cheaper than buying a good seat and they don't even really have good seats anymore
The Dirt Goat specs on paper are all over the place. Looking forward to the review! When I first started looking into it, they listed at 71 MPH, now it says 65.
That’s is crazy the RTR is your slowest bike 😮💨 the Falcon does look nice I think they should maybe try the pitbike market midsize Emoto sale’s are probably going to ERIDES and Altis for right now.
I own this bike I picked it up for 3750 I felt like rawrmantis was too new with no parts I felt like I could upgrade everything with surron parts but the company definitely needs to tighten up . Idk what the app is good for and you can’t control the lights I really wanted to like this bike and it’s not horrible everyone agrees don’t get a stock LB
Just a suggestion, but instead of ❤ing the legitimate questions and comments about the bikes you review. An actual answer to the question would be helpful.
Range is important to myself and others. Talaria Boys does a GREAT job showing not only range, but top speed, torque, and every other feature a model comes with.TB is the best for comparing different models, in my opinion, and the best part is that its 100% FREE!
I’m gonna see if I can convince my parents to let me buy merchandise. I don’t have a a job at all when I should and don’t get an allowance or anything so I’m stuck at the bottom of money. If I can get this shirt and enter the giveaway I’m gonna be elated.
Use the referral link to capitalize on the bonus entries for free! Or get some merch for crazy extra entries. You absolutely still have a shot at winning! Don't give up!
I haven’t done a full range test and I’ll explain faults when I put a video out but I believe it is because of low temperature conditions and trying to pull too much load while accelerating. I was out at 2:30 am by the strip and otw home it topped out at 48 but it was also close to freezing yesterday it was 60 outside and it still did 55 and that was with gps and heavy tires
All the seats suck I don't know what they are thinking not everybody races and stands up most of the time I put a gel seat from a Harley-Davidson motorcycle on mine I can ride as long as I want now, thank me later
I just don’t understand why these company still sending these bikes with these small batteries, shit is annoying smfh This is why I went with the Estrapz mid drive stealth bomber, 72v75ah 70mph ( gps accurate ), motocycle components all around 🤷🏿♂️
what on earth are you talking about🤣wheelies are literally just riding but with the front wheel up and 85% of time your only half throttle in a wheelie. I've been wheeling since i got my bike for 5000 miles and have had no issues
finally got a sum-what street legal bike with a good LCD display for only 4,499. Keep what up the reviews guys.
But my XXX does 50mph with only 6kw. What’s the deal? Also, please include the XXx in your comparisons as many of us are considering it because of its price point and it competes.
Completely different torque and power
If you matched the torque of a xxx these bikes would do 80mph
sounds like the same motor as the xxx. same speed etc
@@jittcrazy1882huh ?! 🧢🤣
@@rolandroland1485 you must be dumb
I think you point out an important problem when comparing these bikes. These manufactures all claim different KW ratings but we have no idea how they get this figure. Do they get this figure from a full charge or nominal voltage or average power throughout the battery discharge. Do they measure the millisecond spikes or a .1 second average. Do they just use real world testing like on a dyno or do they just go off what the controller is set to target and not even factor in voltage sag. Plus then we get into the torque or phase amps, even at the same KW a bike with more torque should accelerate faster off the line. Then we also need to look at like on the Altis do they have any external factors like limiting power due to battery temps. All of this to say when manufactures don't have standards for testing, independent testing is always the best so thank you TB!
I second this!
I would like to see this bike compared to the Throne Srpnt. Great video TB!
I must say, that display is gorgeous 🔥
You guys ROCK! For the money, riight now in time, the 3.0 seems like a over-all winner! My fingers are crossed that I win the Talaria Boys 3.0 contest!
Did you use the tuning app to adjust throttle and controller on this bike? That might solve the lack of top end and throttle lag.
That's bad ass they added blinkers!
%^&( FOOLS
I’ve been waiting for this one
Thanks for another very informative ebike video.
These powdercoated from factory bikes are such a blessing. I wish we could customize them a little more from the factory....maybe soon!
Thanks for the review. Love the reverse feature! Of all the improvements on all of these bikes, one would think they would do something with the most inefficient kickstand design ever. In the woods, I just lay mine down because it is inevitable these bikes are going to tip. Saves me a grip/brake lever bill.
Almost ordered this. Went with the 3.0 instead.
The best choice.
I’m sticking with my Sting MX4
I’d like to see a race between the two! How much does your MX4 weigh?
I think 131
Good review guys! I spoke with them recently about potentially giving the bike an in-depth review as well.
Hoping to see how it compares to some other bikes I have here.
I have a couple stock talarias and some other ones to compare it too if it could be a valuable option for quality of tech and power too. I'm in michigan so it would be cool to see the E-motos pick up a little more over here! I've gotten like 8 people to buy some bikes since last year lol
Great video guys! Stay warm
72v 35 ah? Kids will love the battery specs
Good morning TB what a nice 79 bike pro future
Will you guys be reviewing the new arctic leopard clouded leopard xe when it comes it in march
Do you already have more Infos like prize etc? Maybe a link?
I want the altis sigma, but I'm not sure about those key cards to start it one guy couldn't shut his off on a video you have to press the key card against the display
letss gooo another video 🙏. you guys don’t slack for real
Talaria xxx should be included in comparisons , when doing anything surron Mx4 size
Great video regardless
How do u enter to win the eride pro 3.0 bike
Just click the link in the video description
Where do u buy the 79 pro ?
Hey love your vids. If I could put in a suggestion for the giveaway. I’d buy the hoodie but I don’t actually like or wear hoodies, so it wouldn’t be much use to me. So instead I’m going to buy the T-shirt but then I won’t get 8,000 entries. If you could put a T-shirt option that lets you get the full 8000 entries, like maybe a dual-shirt bundle pack priced appropriately, I feel like that would be more fair to those of us who don’t wear hoodies!
For every merch option you buy you get extra entries, if you just buy 2 shirts you’ll get 5000x2 or x3 if you buy three. There isn’t a limit on any of it
The entries just kinda go off of the price of the merch which is why a hoodie gets more than a shirt. But you can always buy multiple for more enteries
Brahs I NEED to win that bike (E-ride pro) ! Wish I could afford a shirt but I am dead broke and having to move because I cannot get a job where I am currently living. This would help so damn much with commuting in the new city I'm moving to! Plus I wanna join the E-moto community out there soooo bad! Falcon pro seems pretty sick! Keep up the great content!
Does anyone know if Surron rear wheel will fit this??
Once again, I tried to enter the giveaway and it was not possible. You clicked the link for the giveaway and it just takes you to sample of 5 products page that have been tagged. What’s the deal?
can you get a The Dirt Goat 96v to review ...I just need range ......my eride 1.0 is 70Ah and my 3.0 will be 80Ah
I had to switch it backwards because the thicker gel in the front of the seat cover and it wraps around the sides of the seat everybody's going to start getting them soon way cheaper than buying a good seat and they don't even really have good seats anymore
Have you checkout that dirt goat? 96v I think🤔Specs look ok but for the Falcon pro,.. I love the color scheme & for the price!,… the specs look good!
We have one video coming soon
@ awesome! 🫡
The Dirt Goat specs on paper are all over the place. Looking forward to the review! When I first started looking into it, they listed at 71 MPH, now it says 65.
You probably should have included the XXX because of the weight and flexibility and price
That’s is crazy the RTR is your slowest bike 😮💨 the Falcon does look nice I think they should maybe try the pitbike market midsize Emoto sale’s are probably going to ERIDES and Altis for right now.
Will yous ever get an electric motion escape for review?
good video,im just wondering when your going flat out in sport mode for the range tests does that not damage the bike or burn out the motor?
No its not bad for them
@@Talariaboys oh really? i always feel like im going to burn out my motor or something when i go fla outfor like 20 seconds on my ebox dragster
Are you putting 60fps footage into a 24fps timeline? All the footage looks very jittery like you're dropping half your frames.
The new raw mantis x goes the same speed let's see which ones better
I Love this silver frame :)
You should test the latest zero's
It's been a common practice in the moto industry to have the speedo read higher
Ya its a bad practice
So this one only goes a couple of miles per hour faster I don't think the displays are correct anyway
They have the new champ superhuman, just came out and the thrown serpent, e ride pro sr is New
Okay the raww mantis hits 30 mph in 3 seconds
By the way it makes it look better I think it looks cool on my bike
I own this bike I picked it up for 3750 I felt like rawrmantis was too new with no parts I felt like I could upgrade everything with surron parts but the company definitely needs to tighten up . Idk what the app is good for and you can’t control the lights I really wanted to like this bike and it’s not horrible everyone agrees don’t get a stock LB
The new a ride pro Sr only goes 2 mph faster, just came out it's built better
Review the estrapz sb storm!!
always felt this to be so underwhelming. I think it's great for the price though. I am getting the MX5 I think in the summer.
Good morning TB
Wish it had regen.
Pricing determines if they can beat the competition.
Just a suggestion, but instead of ❤ing the legitimate questions and comments about the bikes you review. An actual answer to the question would be helpful.
It’s not going to matter what model you buy because Tb and the world changed the ebike models for Range and miles
Range is important to myself and others. Talaria Boys does a GREAT job showing not only range, but top speed, torque, and every other feature a model comes with.TB is the best for comparing different models, in my opinion, and the best part is that its 100% FREE!
I’m gonna see if I can convince my parents to let me buy merchandise. I don’t have a a job at all when I should and don’t get an allowance or anything so I’m stuck at the bottom of money. If I can get this shirt and enter the giveaway I’m gonna be elated.
$1,000 more I think I'll take the raw Mantis x
It has a grip bottom so it doesn't slide and it just straps under the seat. E ,,,,,bayyyy cheap.
🙌🏻🙌🏻
Good times I love the falcons feature and the surron does not compare to the quality
Annoying that the points got 4x after i entered so now mine are obsolete 🤷
Use the referral link to capitalize on the bonus entries for free! Or get some merch for crazy extra entries. You absolutely still have a shot at winning! Don't give up!
I wat the e-ride pro
Also it messes around and has faults out of no where from time to time
what kind of range do you get, top speed and faults ? I ordered one before all the reviews from TH-cam came out
@ it’s never anything to do about it but it will read on the display error fault # 5 but literally nothing to do about it but turn on and off
@ I did check top speed before I changed my tires and it did do 54
I haven’t done a full range test and I’ll explain faults when I put a video out but I believe it is because of low temperature conditions and trying to pull too much load while accelerating. I was out at 2:30 am by the strip and otw home it topped out at 48 but it was also close to freezing yesterday it was 60 outside and it still did 55 and that was with gps and heavy tires
Send it to me now
All the seats suck I don't know what they are thinking not everybody races and stands up most of the time I put a gel seat from a Harley-Davidson motorcycle on mine I can ride as long as I want now, thank me later
Please no one consider this bike I had it and had to get rid of it cause it’s a pile of falling apart junk
I just don’t understand why these company still sending these bikes with these small batteries, shit is annoying smfh
This is why I went with the Estrapz mid drive stealth bomber, 72v75ah 70mph ( gps accurate ), motocycle components all around 🤷🏿♂️
I don’t want to wheelie it’s going to destroy the bike and beat the battery to heak
what on earth are you talking about🤣wheelies are literally just riding but with the front wheel up and 85% of time your only half throttle in a wheelie. I've been wheeling since i got my bike for 5000 miles and have had no issues
@@hudsonredmond5601ppl who can’t wheelie convince themselves of all kinds of stuff 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
This vs Mantis X...
Mantis X is $1000 cheaper
Lost me at 10kw
finally
The Mantis is faster and cheaper
They already have a better bike because they are competing with surron light bee for 4000
First for once?
Shit name fir a bike
2nd
pro this pro that .,..please stop calling bikes and scooters pro .....
My scooter goes faster😂
The falcon looks bad
I think it looks sick
MX5 is a wannabe Ultra bee...its huge compared to this bike.
Wrong
ALTIS SIGMA STILL WINS MAN!!!!!!!
garbage bike
It’s not going to matter what model you buy because Tb and the world changed the ebike models for Range and miles
Range is very important to me!
They already have a better bike because they are competing with surron light bee for 4000