For a while now, I haven’t uploaded anything. But that doesn’t mean I haven’t been working. This video took such a long time because researching it took me forever. The worst part is that just before upload this news came out about Ayurvedic surgery. So I had to add a part to the video that made the video ugly(to me, at least). TH-cam might penalize me for a low frequency of upload so all I can ask is if you did enjoy it, please share it so that it reaches more people :)
@@Sagar-hz7kx These are all ancient wisdoms that may or may not have truth to them. They are arrived at without trying to eliminate cognitive biases bro.
@@Sagar-hz7kx watch out my take on jaggis bullshit, why not to sleep pointing north. The other things you asked for are touch based on my channel. Hope you will get some info
I think these reserchers haven't read bible If they had they would have got plenty of pseudoscience (flat earth theory ,god at 9th heaven ,earth as centre of earth) Understand the limitations of past.atleast we were clear with these subjects
@kay kay ya ya because of that ineffective shit . today we are typing the comments here.long back there is no modern hospitals and drugs.all these generations survived with that ineffective shit 😂
Yeah people are there... but it drastically reducing.. bcz govt imposing own anicient blv into people.. they r simply want to remove rationality n science
@@presunjittripura3795 Every HINDU tradition has deep science in it right from the beginning, only nowadays MACULAY's illegal children are bouncing and yelling from their's WHITE father's lap. Keep baarking we do not bother.
@no From 5000 years and before people eapecially HINDUs lead a very healthy life and we had SURGERIES performed by RISHI SUSHRUT. The main problem is you MACUALY'S ILLEGAL CHILDREN do not know SANSKRIT and hence cannot even read those great works. So even if you bark it will notstop us from continuing our tradition.
@@rudrawahal7726 if u feel better in 5000 yrs back da way rishi/ guru live, then why d heck you r enjoying ur modern life in couch confined in ac room.. u should leave urban n start living in himalyan deep forests..
I really liked the bit where you breakdown how modern medicine and ayurveda differs and giving ayurveda its rightful purpose in modern age. It is just that I think that the mass public are susceptible to be polarized and can easily digest perceptions as either good or bad and may fail to see the middle ground.
I know I'm late to the party, but this is a great video and I'm glad I found it. I thought you gave Ayurveda a reasonable level of respect while still properly demonstrating the legitimate issues with the practice. You even went as far as trying to tackle the cultural based defense of Ayurveda, which I can't imagine was easy. I look forward to checking out your other videos...
You have addressed few very good points in many videos but I have noticed some biasness as well. I will list out them for you and your audience the biasness which I found in this video. 1. Title: Ayurveda "VS" Science :- Very smartly By this title alone you have put Ayurveda in a defensive position. " Ayurveda vs Modern Medicine" would have been better. You have maliciously used the word science in same way as you accuse others of using like "Sadhguru and Shri Shri Ravi Shankar" 2. Ayurveda is PseudoScience:- You have called ayurveda a PseudoScience cause of it's model the Panchmahabhoot model which you say is wrong according to Science. Many Scientific ideas and theories have been proved wrong like plumpudding model, does that make it a Pseudoscience?? Galelio was wrong in few of his findings so does that make his research PseudoScience? you also forget that the same ayurveda also talks about rakht - blood , mazza - marrow, vasa-fat, haddi - bone etc and the Acharya Sushrut that you praised for plastic surgery was working on the same model and ideas. Human Body is almost 60 -75% water this is verfied by Western Medicine, Brain contains electrical impulses and many more research is going on. Does Ayurveda has cure for all illness? Definitely not. Does Modern Medicine has cure for all illness ? Definitely not. I will give you few more but unreleated examples. 100 years ago - Yoga was called quackery by Modern Medicine but now has verified many of claims inculding efficient in reducing stress, anxiety and in some cases Blood Pressure. So by your definition Modern medicine is PseudoScience and Yoga is the Ultimate?? No right?? Untill 2 decades ago all kind of saturated fat was labeled as "Life Threatening" by Modern Medicine, Today Modern Medicine recommends "Ghee" for healthy individuals because of its nourishing effects. Am I saying "Ayurveda is ultimate truth" and "Modern science is bad" ? No, Absolutely not I am just calling you out for your hypocrisy. 3. Traditional Doesn't mean good:- Agreed something is traditional doesn't mean its correct or right but if something has stood test of time for thousands of years then it surely does deserve a chance of being objectively studied and it would have been good if you have considered visiting a good ayurvedic college. You smartly call people to be rational and objective but you yourself are not. In my personal opinion you are no better than people like String who are filled with agendas. Peace out
finally a good comment, see, I like this dude and I enjoy his videos and learn through them but I was searching for a smart comment here, I have not done any research but I just want to appreciate you for giving out good points instead of just being "ayurveda is good lolxd stfu"
Righty said most of the part . Just not able to understand why this channel is defaming own culture and tradition . He told about Aristotle talked about 4 elements of human body, but much before that we knew and proved that there are 5 elements. Modern medicine is brought by west ppl and ayurveda is not a pseudoscience. Just wanted to know Pranav only refer wikipedia to prove his explanations or has he really read any of the ancient books ?
Listen the part from 18:04. That single simple line will help you understand why he said so. And about the title it is somewhat biased but not completely wrong tho. But judging on the basis of the title will give you no answers. The video is good. He neither called ayurveda good nor bad. He just stated why ayurveda is called pseudoscience but most of em only see these things as indian culture that oh no he only targets our Indian culture. Its interesting atleast people are questioning these things and want evidence of what ayurveda or any other branch we believe from thousand of years states. I see this as a video full of knowledge which can be criticized or supported by our opinions or evidence. Hope you do the same.
@@horizon5549 questioning something is good and that's why i did.... calling something pseudoscience means you completely understand that thing and are 100% certain without an iota of doubt that it's method were non-scientific but and this is a big but, this branch is so old we are not sure how was it derived? How did these people reached such conclusions? Secondly all modern scientific approach and methods are built on ancient methods which not 100% conform with modern methods...are they all pseudoscience? Did this guy read ayurveda? Read all the lectures -the main three books ? Or even did a small crash course? Final nail to your argument..he called it pseudoscience cause it doesn't follow scientific methods...Sushruth has detailed writings on how to perform rhinoplasty (part of Ayurveda) accepted by modern medicine as very close to today's practice..... So was it a pseudoscience? Give respect where its due..and instead of calling a branch of medicine pseudoscience whose most of the writings are lost to time he could have gone with that there is a lot of pseudoscience in name of Ayurveda today..but he critised the whole thing without even having relevant expertise... Questioning something is always good and you should question...but was he questioning in the video or giving result and judgements? Does Ayurveda have some wrong concepts - absolutely... Did modern medicine 100 years back had wrong concepts absolutely ( all germs were believed to be harmful). Should there be more research in both the fields ....yes absolutely... In science there is a very big impact of terminology... And I am not just defending ayurveda..look at chinese traditional acupuncture, herbology, and cupping...these are all science just of different times..doesn't make them pseudo
If something has been there for like 5000 years and has been working every now and then, then there has to be some value to it. Essentially all medicines are chemicals and and all herbs have many of those chemicals. So proper research should be done on those ayurvedic medicines which work and active ingredients of those should be identified and included towards modern medicine.
@@grootguy890 it works slow...nd during medications we r not allowed to eat certain foods etc... nd this reel generation don't have this much patience..while in modern medicine we just have to pop up pills..i think thats why.. I'm on against modern medicine btw..😂
@@riyameera5936 it may work But people aren’t committed to doing the steps . We all go after convenience,but we need to educate people about overdosing medicines which can certainly damage ur liver if done frequently
Well I don't know why Indians don't realise that they got independence and the fact that we have our own culture.. they just copy west People just claim Ayurveda is pseudoscientific without knowing what it is.. they never point out a single mistake from allopathy and the business mafia. Just watch Dr Hegde talk we get an idea about it.
Yes I agree ayurvedic experts should use the modern techniques available and evolve the practice with openness. However it will be really foolish to directly dump ayurveda, the preventive and lifestyle lessons from ayurveda work and had worked for me. And I totally agree with u on seeking modern medicine for immediate effect and ayurveda for some chronic ones.
Yes... People do ignore and defame ayurveda. Actly my friends even laugh at me when I use ayurvedic remedies, they think ayurveda is about baba ramdev and patanjali products. Infact, ayurveda is not just some pseudo science. The ancient rishis did experiments and written down natural medicines which works in ayurveda.
This is a fantastic video, but unfortunately I think people get confusion even after this. So I think it could be said as ayurveda is mostly based on observation. The models you mentioned came because of people observing that fire is always pointing upwards and air is lighter than earth. The observation is right, only the explanation is wrong. Back then people didn't have understanding about atoms and molecules (slightly confused about the terminology of Anu and Paramanu here, needs clarity) and atomic properties, they decided there were 5 natural elements. They weren't knowing how to break them further. Now, if we take these elements as black box, then I think it does explain the reasons behind the mixtures they make and proportions of herbs (again, from observations) they use which are working. Having said that, I agree that Ayurveda is a wellness system and not a curing system. It had the right intentions, but just not right explanations on why their observations were working. If you think my understanding from this video is incorrect, please feel free to explain again. As you said, scientific temper needs to increase and I believe it does when people have more and more rational discussions.
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In my opinion there should only be morden medicine, since it's far more effective it should be available to everyone and not some other less effective one..... At the same time ayurveda system can be used only for research purposes to adapt it to morden system and shoul not act separately
Who are you? What are your qualifications to talk about a bonafide system of medical science like Ayurveda? Are you a medical doctor or scientist? Or just propagating your non-scientific comic opinions and building a fan following? If you don't have any qualifications on medicine then you shouldn't debate.
I've only watched this one video and I can already tell that this is the kind of science based, unbiased and genuine opinion I was looking for. Saved me a lot of time researching the frustratingly diverse, bi-polar and often unreliable evidence and proof on the Internet. My parents almost forced me into skipping an urgent and much needed surgery suggested by multiple doctors just because on of my relatives said Ayurvedic medicine will cure me without a surgery. If only they could watch this and change their perspective. Liked and subscribed :)
I am an Ayurvedic doctor and I agree to most of your points but I think i can put more light on ayurveda as a science (primitive one) and how the theory isn’t utterly wrong as you stated
Ayurveda does not follow the scientific method. Research, Study, review, Upgrade, change. That's science method. But Ayurveda has been same since 500 years. Learnt nothing new. In the mean while Medical sciences had discovered many new things, even new organs. And Medical sciences also made some friends named Pharmacy, Chemistry, Physics and some more. They are growing together. And until 1950 life expectancy in India is 30 years. Today it's 70 years, because of increase in hospitals and modern medicine. In USA and Japan it's almost 80 years.
Ayurveda first decides your body types before giving you any medications. Which I think is indeed a good approach cause every humans require different requirements.
@@sai_69 bro i would say bmi is very vague thing to do that(so is dosha system, unless there is any research breakthrough occurs). Based on your bmi, one can't conclude your metabolic, neurotic, cardiovascular, or any other activities.
Massive, massive respect to you, man. I started following your channel today & I've binge watched 5 videos already. The amount of effort you've put in for virtually no personal gain except the furthering of science is most impressive.
I came across your channel today and I was intrigued with your approach to many pseudo scientists, and I agree with that but sadly to this video I’ll disagree very strongly. Being an Ayurvedic Practitioner. I have list of things you mentioned which are wrong. 1. The 5 element theory, the panchamahaabhut as you mentioned are not the basic 5 elements that you mentioned here, this co relation is a wrong one. If you read and I would recommend you must, these mahabhut are themselves composed of smaller elements called the tanmatras. These are not the elements but rather abstract concepts. Read chapter one of sutra sthan of charak samhita for better understanding. 2. Secondly the germ theory you mentioned, Ayurveda clearly mentions in extensive detail of jan pad udvans, you’ll find this in charak too. 3. In the other video you mentioned of how there is no talk about sexuality of women in ancient text, you are clearly mistaken again. Prasuti and Stri Rog is a branch of Astang Ayurveda. I don’t know which Ayurvedic Practitioners and Students you talked to for this video but clearly you mentioned a lot of things wrong, please don’t make half researched videos✌🏼.
Finally somebody with a rational approach. However there is one major flaw in your claim about the Ayurvedic classifications of the five elements. The five elements are more so classification of material existence. Unlike the Greeks, the “mahabhootani” are not static or rigid in Vedic philosophy. More than they are philosophical descriptions and not scientific ones. They are classifications; space (ākāsha): all that which exists materially (the originator of material) materially; vāyu: the aspect of motion; Agni: the aspect of radiation; jala: the aspect of liquidity; bhoomi: the aspect of solidity More than that, the tridosha theory focuses the characteristics of these aspects. Akasha is the most subtle of all, and is only noticed by the apparent lack of it; hence shabda or sound is its “tanmatra”. Vayu is that of motion, especially air, hence its “tanmatra” is sparsha or touch. Agni is that of radiation, more specifically heat/light, therefore it’s essence (tanmatra) being rupa or form. Jala is that of liquidity, in the context of the human body, it is water, and it’s essence is noticeable in taste or rasa. Finally, bhoomi/prithvi is that of solidity and it’s Ayurvedic association is that of smell or the capability to smell Together, the elements form the three doshas: Vata as that of movement and respiration (vayu + akasha); Pitta as that of digestion and metabolism (Agni + jala); Kapha as that of lubrication and structure (jala + bhoomi). The more you read Ayurvedic scriptures, the idea that the five elements are of the most basic form actually weakens; the Samhitas fully acknowledge the wide range of material that each classification entails. Moreover, as you described, Ayurveda is concerned with imbalances in the doshas of a person. Here, it is only right to admit, that several of the times, Ayurveda was mixed with contemporary “sciences” such as that of astrology as mechanisms through which doctors had believed to deduce the doshas. I mention this to debunk that point where you seem to imply Ayurveda was an outlier in Indian sciences. Ayurveda not only incorporated developments other contemporary fields of engineering (as suggested by the extremely specific design of the tools used in some of the samhitas) and chemistry (rasayanashastra) to create a vast variety of medicines. That said, it does not follow anything similar to the rigid structure of the scientific method, and admittedly, several of the samhitas may even contradict one another when put into practice. And of course, I would be willing to bet charaka and susruta would vouch for our modern medical systems as well, but I do think that you need to credit the consistency of Ayurveda. Also, it’s definitely not a pseudoscience simply because elements of it are prone to being pseudoscientific. Also, it is a bit of a genetic fallacy to call Ayurvedic principles pseudoscientific on the premise of it having come out of a fallacious ideology. Simply because something comes from something else, it does not make it the same.
Your comment is a great example that actually knowledgeable people don't feel threatened by the knowledge of others like so many WhatsApp uncles these days.
Please consider my comment! I liked the way you're actually Scientific, you're not biased to any side that's why I even feel it's useful to write this See, Ayurveda's model doesn't seem to be Scientific at all as per today's findings through the modern science but that doesn't mean it doesn't work! I've been applying this model in my daily life for past 1 yr! And after the application of the tridosha concept for this much period of time with my proper observations of symptoms of everything as per Ayurveda I'm really convinced to believe on this model though it's unscientific completely. Waiting for the time when proper research work is conducted on this model with complete unbiasedness 😭😭
Research work was already performed. Scientists first developed a simple model; and then go for a more complex, realistic model. That's why science progresses. Ayurveda is a simple model; based on the understanding of that time. Simple models can also explain many things. That's why Ayurveda also works in some cases. Scientists developed their understanding based on simpler models; then develop the more complex model. Our understanding of chemistry and biology improved; that's why we are now able to figure out the root cause of diseases.
@@SoumitraKhirpai right everything starts from basic, physics and chemistry everything developed step by step, we have lambos today, it doesn't mean Human's invention of round tires is waste
Categorising, human body on basis of vata, pitta, kapha, is superb, and very accurate , I have been reasearching more and more, and it fits evertime,, ellopathy works to control and balance the symptoms, Ayurveda work on root to end the problem
@@nirajsinghkarki9556 bro the whole thing is modern medical system is more profitable. A single pill can be sold for thousand bucks where as Ayurveda is inexpensive and effective. That's why to save business, people are destroying ayurveda.
As an 18 year old, who chose BAMS due to a less than stellar NEET score, you are making me regret my life choices mate 😭 Great and really informative video btw, i freakin love your channel. Now considering all the information. Since current mainstream ayurveda courses (such as BAMS) teach us both, ayurveda and allopathy, i am personally gonna follow the motto "what works and what doesn't", as you have stated in this video.
Don't feel disheartened and try to prove every body wrong with effective ayurvedic medicines. Ayurveda's and alternative medicine work starts when Allopathic doctors give up.
Because they have more active molecules, Which gives better and Fast results. Ayurvedic medicines have side effects too, Not every churan you eat has molecules for Humans, they are made to benefit plants by the plants, if they work, they work but it's just their side quest.
Everything helped to increase our understanding. Scientists first developed some simple models and then tried to develop more realistic models. Complex models are mostly developed on the understanding of simple models. Simple models can also explain many things. Ayurveda, Unani, etc are like simple models based on our understanding of that time. Some of their medicines are also effective; that's why people followed them. As our knowledge about the chemistry and biology of molecules increases, we are able to understand the root cause of diseases in a better way. We are also able to develop much better medicine based on our present understanding. Nowadays we are talking about nanomedicine. Maybe our current understanding will change in near future...that's the way science progresses.
Something I choose to believe is that Ayurveda and English medicine is that they originated based on plants and stuff that's native to their areas. English medicine chose to refine and get only the active chemicals, but Ayurveda chose to stick to the base sources. The trial and error method seems to fit in with my idea. The issue here is how people believed Ayurveda is superior and hence, this didn't evolve with changing times. People are still holding on to the past, which has now been proven wrong. PS: This conflict aside, homeopathy is an absolute joke.
I dug out this video because someone was maligning Ayurveda a lot on social media. In the process I learnt a lot especially about the application of scientific models to test effective medicines. I agree with all your points, since it is the only logical thing to do. I would just like to say, I know of at least one doctor, a friend of my father's, now retired, who is an Ayurvedic doctor for his whole life. Everyone in his family is one. He's one of the most practical, observation driven and extremely intelligent people I know. When I say intelligence, I don't just mean bookish intelligence, but a rare combination of actual practical wisdom, common sense, and academic intelligence. His clinic, now run by his son who is also an Ayurvedic doctor, was always full of people seeking medicines for various treatments. This person was the epitome of ethics in life and work. If there wasn't a remedy for a particular condition in Ayurveda, he used to directly tell his patients about that. Instead, he tried to help them by offering suggestions in diet and lifestyle changes to reduce some of the symptoms. I actually used to go to his clinic to discuss certain life struggles I faced as a kid in college, and also I had a problem with acne. But at any rate, whenever someone maligns Ayurveda blindly, I am always reminded of this doctor, who represents the gold standard of medical ethics to me, and I wonder, how did he cure all those people if his medicine wasn't effective? He is the most scientific person I know, and used to test the patient's pulse to find out if they had any underlying health issues and used to treat them accordingly. And in most of the cases, the medicine was proven effective to treat the condition. I am now thinking, it was due to him applying the principles of Ayurveda correctly to the problems, to get the desired results.
The ayurveda taught in school still teach modern scientific theory (as, only science students can take Ayurveda). Most ayurveda students are doing research (as far as I'm aware)
Only students who scored weakly in science go to these quack schools. Their research is useless. They don't understand modern science properly and their research goes nowhere.
Sometimes, the TH-cam algorithm works well. As a westerner, I'd say finding perspectives of someone informed in the roots of many new age-ish concepts and applying healthy skepticism is sometimes hard. Looking forward for more of your content. Liked and subscribed. Great work!
@@scienceisdope I'm in the process of transcribing your words and translate to my native language to see if I can get some subtitles on this content! (I'd like to share it with non-English speakers hehe). So I can possibly get you subs in English and Portuguese in a near future. Hope it's OK, please let me know otherwise :)
th-cam.com/video/K-mgmIjaRlY/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TEDxTalks watch this and you will understand what is Ayurved. Watch BM Hegde and then you can judge.
I feel this is unbiased ...but I also see an opportunity we have never explored. People who believe in Ayurveda must help the system progress with the help of knowledge we have gathered over the centuries..... Let science lead not create chaos and confusion...
Main reason why people tend to relay on homeo and ayurveda is due to side effects of modern allopathic medicines in prolonged use . Can you pls make a video regarding this.
If you trust these research papers so much, CNN has quoted a study in a 2017 article which found that nearly 30% of FDA approved drugs had some problems. Getting approved in the first place is a difficult thing as FDA has strict policies and even yet they make mistakes. Every field has its own flaws. Try to use things practically rather than reading research pprs and concluding results.
> 30% of FDA approved drugs have issues And? At least we know of those issues due to the rigorous oversight and regulation of evidence-based medicine. Should we instead use remedies which are completely untested?
This guy is insulting hate comment guy and disliking guy in video to prevent hate comment and dislikes for this video in accordance to benefit from youtube. This is business
Yup many content creators try to avoid hate comments in someway or the other and i guess he is one among them and he is most probably trying to make the people who have counter arguments think themselves as foolish and make them feel guilty or something I don't know if he actually wants to do this
As a white person interested in debunking pseudoscience I always find the topics of Ayurvedic and TCM tricky. I don’t want be racist or have a colonizer type attitude, but I also don’t want to just agree that some things are valid if they are not. I don’t assume that I’m better or wiser because I’m white, I’m concerned about “alternative medicine” simply because it’s not well regulated, it’s not tested and too often filled with false claims about miracle cures. My biggest concern overall is how I see some alternative medicine practitioners take advantage of people and who scare monger about modern medicine leaving people at risk. I find there are some who feel mainstream research and medicine are biased and predominately based on “white science” (not my words), I can’t say for certain if there is any validity or not to this. I liked your perspective that sometimes the trial and error of traditional medicine did result in discoveries of effective medicines, I agree. I’ve heard the quote from that comedian before and still love it, I think it applies well to this complicated topic. What I enjoyed most is getting to hear this perspective from someone who is Indian living in India and is a part of the culture. I have wanted to hear more Indian perspectives on the topic of Ayurvedic for quite some time, I’m specifically interested in hearing the perspectives of those interested in science or even scientists themselves, just because it’s not a perspective I know enough about, it’s easy to find lots of pro-Ayurvedic Indian perspectives so finding the other perspective is interesting.
My sentiments exactly as another white person. I think a lot of what Ayurveda teaches actually makes sense and feels right for me, but some of it feels off, like a lot of the dietary recommendations.
One crucial difference between Ayurveda and Allopathic treatment: Allopathy is focused on treating the symptoms and making sure the person becomes asymptomatic whereas ayurveda is about healing from within by focusing on the root cause and not the symptoms.
This is not crucial difference the real Crucial difference is Allopathy follows Scientific Method, Ayurveda don't. What you mentioned is just the method, both allopathy and Ayurveda Cures from Roots and maybe even before like Vaccination does in case of Allopathy
18:10 integrated medicine section is awesome man, we need to come out of this mindset that science = west. Also feel Sushruta would have said 'science is dope', had x-rays been discovered when he was living!
Ayurveda: It is grounded in observation and experience: the foundational pillars of science. And some Ayurvedic herbal remedies have been evaluated in placebo-controlled trials-with mixed results. However, modern scientific method is, by design, only concerned with things that can be measured. Ayurveda, on the other hand, is far more esoteric and involves lots of things that cannot be easily measured by the instruments and methods used by modern science. In Ayurveda, for example, your regimen is customized according to your “dosha,” or your energetic constitution, as well as any energetic imbalances that may be contributing to your symptoms. That theory is a little hard to test with modern scientific methods! But people who believe in this system of medicine are content to do it the way it’s always been do
Nice presentation. One thing you missed is the discussion of what exactly constitutes scientific evidence. You could briefly discuss how modern science establishes that a new treatment is better than a placebo through statistics. Not the details, just the basics would be useful for your audience.
I haven't gone through the video on Ayurveda. I thoroughly enjoyed the very fine graphics and editing that accompanied your video on Astronomy, Galilleo, Bruni and others. My problem with Ayurveda, Unani, Chinese Medicine is not that they work sometimes, but the basic model of ayurveda is loosely similar to Greek model of understanding disease. At that time, it was a huuuuge step forward, compared to the existing model of blaming evil spirits for causing disease. Again, there are lot of similarities between Doshas and the various humors of ancient Greek medicine. For their time, it was a breakthrough of sorts. But the ancient model of medicine, however useful, it may have seemed, in some cases is not how the human body works. As my professor used to say about economic models; Most models are false, but some of them can be quite useful. Keep producing these videos. God knows India and Indians sure need them, as there is a resurgence in aggressive pooh poohing of modern medicine by the powers that be in India.
Just a few observations and thoughts. 1. The principal problem with Ayurveda is its emphasis on sticking to the recipes in the text and its resistance to critically examining the recipes in light of modern scientific practices. That's where Ayurveda makes a stark departure from the scientific realm. 2. Indians seek solace and pride in a few surgical innovations. However, surgical innovations were happening in all of the ancient world. However, back in the day, surgery was not a part of the discipline of "medicine" or "the scientific methods." Most surgical procedures were developed and performed by tradesmen. 3. Ayurveda can only introduce active agents to scientific medicine, which the latter can test, verify, and turn into a commercial product. In that way, Ayurveda, just like other traditional medicines, acts as an introducer. This ties in with the credibility of the observation-led approach of Ayurveda. But it's not just Ayurveda. In fact, scientific medicine emerged as an observation-based (empirical) discipline. It's only after the development of molecular and nano techniques that medicine moved from empirical to "evidence-based medicine." 4. To repurpose the above point, any "effective" traditional medicine approach will need to be vetted and approved by the scientific method before it can be commercially used. 5. I wouldn't recommend trying Ayurveda for chronic diseases because they will be administered by Ayurvedic practitioners who haven't been schooled on the scientific method. So while in principle, Ayurveda could have a few odds in its favor, its non-scientific approach coupled with its limitations as an introducer will offset the "proposed" benefits.
Hey Ayurveda helps in clearing of chronic diabetes like Diabetes and Cancer which even allopathic cannot help I curing . Ik people getting cures at stage 4
Have you seen the syllabus of BAMS and MD/MS of ayurveda. Please do if you have not. Ayurvedic doctors are exhaustively trained in modern medicine both theory and practice. Don't consider the vaidyas as ayurvedic practitioners. Doctors are trained really well. Numerous researched are being conducted from a modern scientific perspectives in institutes like AIIA ,NIA,BHU,SDM etc even international journal like elseiver and even john hopkins have articles based on ayurvedic drugs. They are scientifically proven to be efficacious and nontoxic in its proper dosage. Biotechnological research are also being conducted in phenotypes based on ayurvedic principles and have been proved time again. Just look for these articles in pubmed and ncbri
@@shreerammarch there are courses in astrology and vastu shastra. That doesn't make them legit. Having an "credentialed" program is not a proof of scientific credibility.
Hii, I am a MD Doctor in Ayurveda. After understanding what u really are trying to say in the video, I am happy atleast you are accepting the results of these medicines. Now my question to you is, if the Fundamental Model of Ayurveda, the Basic Principles of Ayurveda which include Tridoshas, SaptaDhatu, Pancha-Bhutas and many other such concepts, are wrong according to you..than on what basis really did Acharyas plan the treatment principles of certain disease and how according to you the medicines are working and show results?! We have concept of Rasa, Veerya, Guna, Vipaka, Prabhava a five fold system by which we understand how the drug works in human body in Ayurveda! Do you have any knowledge about that? Modern Allopathic Science and Ayurveda are two very different system of health sciences and one should try to understand it differently and not mix them and try to compare entities of one to other. Another very basic point u have mistaken, The three main Ayurvedic texts you mentioned are Charaka Sushruta and WAGBHATT AND NOT BHELA. You don't even know what three main texts are in which whole basics are covered..and yet you are commenting on Ayurveda and its principles!! Please study properly and In depth before disrespecting and tagging something as Fake or Pseudo on such social platforms .
@@truePac47 You're just ready to believe in something you can't see. >And there is no such thing as God.God is just a bloody joke nothing else.It's only a word. People like you will even take Ayurvedic products like Panchgavya just because it is written in some random scripture.
Hi Pranav, hope I spell right, in the search of Vedic Maths, I tuned your channel. Seeing your research skills made me amazed. To comprehend your videos first I have to unlearn. Such a content deserve millions of views and subscribers also the cross studies. Wish you success, keep working hard for audience like us. I must not say watch infact l will study your videos. Hope to see you celebrating million subscriber soon.
@@scienceisdope Pranav I am in the middle of a project, let me finish it, I would love to study your videos, will cross check it and then I will promote it with best of my efforts. Your hard efforts will be paid soon, your content will going to be viral soon........ only good things take time. Best of luck luck bhaai.
Again, you created a very informative clip. Science is never a matter of nationality or cultural background. It is completely objective and can do without these childish things. If I misuse the work of great scientists and medicals to exalt myself because I come from the same cultural circle, then in reality I am just totally small and insignificant because I have never made a contribution to the big picture in science but wasted my time with childish thoughts. I'm just a marginal figure who misuses science but doesn't understand it. All the best from Vienna. :o). If
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Hi Pranav it is a good video to understand medical/clinical models and effectiveness of medicine. Also well said that we need to research more and extract the core element of ayurvedic medicines and use them with modern medicine. One thing though that I feel you left out is ayurvedic practitioners known as "naadi vaidya". They are the people who just hold your hand at a particular place and tell all your ailments. And this is not hearsay, because I have myself visited one such ayurvedic doctor with my family and friends and he just don't ask what ailments are you suffering from, but tells you with 100% accuracy. Please explain about that as well.
I saw this video to check whether I should take Ayurvedic medicine for minor digestion problems!! The problem is mostly chronic and does not require immediate attention.. I have had a chekup from a doctor who has degrees in both Medical science and Ayurveda !! The medicine advised is not a heavy drug.. but commonly available simple medicine !! I can't research on the net because of lack of time and energy to sort out all the bs there!! Also the doctor is very trusted, reknowned and awarded !! So I am off to the shop!!
Wow!, you've touched a really nice topic & expressed it in a great manner. Pranav, I would like to suggest you to add subtitles in such videos, as it develops a better understanding for the viewers.
this truly misleading every one there is many things he did not say. he don't know any thing abt ayurveda. he is mis guiding everyone. keeping incomplete information he is confedent abt that. idk y he is doing this
ayurveda needs a tremendous amount of research , for which a tremendous amount of money , time , trained technical expertise and an unbiased scientific evidence based mindset are needed so that we dont just halt at testing cow urine . Problem with us and our culture is that whatever good came out of us was picked off by outsiders because they were intelligent enough to spot understand and lift it off while we were busy somewhere else , our attention to such things has always been minimal , even today we have the capacity to produce many intelligent minds but to harness it , the attitude is minimal
true Ayurveda needs more research where modern medicine has just refused to investigate... there are some herbs which are known to work 100% such as ashwagandha, shilajit, brahmi, tulsi... also remember most documents are missing in Ayurveda
18:45 Interesting fact : In Sri Varamoortheshwar temple, Tamilnadu ; it said that the stages of foetus development are carved. (I don't know how true this is).
Also Ayurveda is not practised in south India , in ancient times they used siddha medicine and I support modern medicine and those who practice siddha also promotes it,
Until 1950 life expectancy in India is 30 years. Today it's 70 years, because of increase in hospitals and modern medicine. In USA and Japan it's almost 80 years.
th-cam.com/video/K-mgmIjaRlY/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TEDxTalks watch this and you will understand what is Ayurved. Watch BM Hegde and then you can judge .
Thanks Pranav for running this channel science is dope.... I have been watching western similar channel but no one was focusing on the Indian psudo science..... And you must always expose psudo science of sadguru ..... Because I was always wondering how sadguru is doing all this but now I understood from your channel.....
One addendum for immunity boosters... The common belief that it's always better to boost your immunity is flat out wrong. In fact, some diseases are problematic because of a hyperactive immunity system. Simplistically, your immune system works by attacking threats within your body. If that's just indiscriminately boosted, that means it's going to go all out even for benign substances it may misidentify as threats. So... yes, the immunity boosters don't work... and it's actually a good thing that they don't.
Auto-immune diseases occur due to hyper sanitized living conditions and not due to overly strong immune systems. Proof of this is that occurrence of auto immune diseases are much much more prevalent in the west compared to say India.
I do not like the concept of your video but as a person open to new ideas, you changed my perspective and it was enough to make me press that red button Would definitely share your content Congratulations and best wishes
@@scienceisdope actually I don't even disagree with you it's just that it will take some time to soak in the truth Ayurveda has so many things that work well (due to magic or trial n error) that it's difficult to say that it is just multiple coincidences summing up to give something so useful (just like life on earth, way too many coincidences happened for life to exist but when we see how big the universe is and how long it has existed for, it's a bit obvious that life had to happen somewhere at sometime)
@@nityarawat7901 I see your perspective. The process of trial and error can often lead to mistakes( because of cognitive biases like confirmation bias). But Ayurveda is not at fault for not knowing this. Humans only realised this some 200 years back. However now that we know these things, Ayurveda can definitely improve it's methods and I can see it being very useful.
@@scienceisdope trail and error can lead to mistakes but Ayurveda herbs from my perspective is taken from adivasis because they were only people who knew the jungle in detail.
Hey man! I love the video, primarily because of the discussion on scientific method. I have just one question. I thought maybe our translation is a little off. Is it possible that Ayurveda is not calling five elements the way Aristotle said? I have an alternate understanding. Ayurveda talks about three states of matter in the body, along with reaction driving force and empty space or vacuum (which even Newton had mistaken to be filled with Ether). Let me know where this analogy breaks. (Not trying to undermine Newton. Just pointing out an honest mistake.)
But it is still an inaccurate picture of human physiology, isn’t it? Yes, there are three states of matter, and technically the human body contains substances in all three forms, but it doesn’t explain how the human body works (or doesn’t work).
@@praveen25 It must not be explaining the whole picture, and I am no supporter of Ayurveda. But that makes it incomplete, not inaccurate. I am a strong supporter of the logical flow of arguments. This is the only reason I am answering/commenting here. I felt Pranav's video was short on research and long on claims here, which is opposite to what he claims and generally does.
@@praveen25 but it still explains in which matter(the muscle, the blood or the breath) is having the problem in it. I'm not saying that ayurveda Is superior. Modern science is still one step further. But ayurveda doesn't give you a unhealthy lifestyle or side effect.
Ayurveda(indian medicine)is based on experience of centuries Whereas western medicine is experiment/evidence based.. It's upto u to use experienced medicine or evidence based medicine.....
Sir before 7 year ago I was a patient of sevire migraine.i have take modern medicine almost 2 year and take almost all pathy treatments .after that i want to a ayurvedic doctor and take ayurvedic medicine for only 15 days And i have a great relif in my headache Now i am very heathy and take only ayurvedic medicine I don't know what the science behind it but it works more effective
You are right! To prevent something before it is caused or not a severe disease Ayurveda can be used. For an acute, emergency or severe disease allopathy should be the choice of treatment! 😊
Firstly it's modern medicine. Secondly Ayurveda/Homeopathy is only helpful for self curing conditions like cold,cough,swellings etc. Not trying to be rude.
@@LightYagami-sj2ls Rude? You are not. My comment is my way of thinking and understanding, each one has own. I am allopathic Doctor by the way, Degree: MD Medicine!
@@LightYagami-sj2ls People use Ayurvedic medicine for chronic diseases that allopathic chemical medicines can’t cure like epilepsy , paralysis and even for jaundice but not for cold , coughs and welling etc.
Important to note: Ayurveda never explains why things are the way they are. It always describes how things are in an inutitive way. It denotes the tendencies of things without taking to much interest into any details. Like Vata Dosha is made of "air" and everything that has to do with air will increase Vata Dosha.
3:54 yes actually coz ayu means life and veda means how to gain ___ so actually Ayurveda is not a medicine system but a dictionary full of ways to prevent diseases have you ever got an Ayurvedic treatment. Please don't try to roast Ayurveda
@koro sensei As far as I know old Ayurveda was not only for the body but also for the spirit (prana) so some things won’t work on the body because the intention is to repair your spiritual energy.
@koro sensei Spirits absolutely exists, see that’s what you guys are doing, you guys try to prove the non material world with material things like microscopes, that’s not how it works, science (material science) fails here. But both of them are connected and the yogis found out how they could cooperate for good consequences.
@koro sensei Ayurveda (the one we have today) has many benefits actually, things like garlic and turmeric are good for our body, i don’t know if the Ayurveda today can cure diseases such as cancer. But it has many benefits.
Bro just one question . As you said that these modern medicines models are improved overtime . Then why these medicines are having so many side effects. Like my mom is taking bp pills and there are times that she has to increase the doses because as said by doctors. Overtime it decreases the sensitivity and she has to take it more to back that amount of effectiveness. If the model is improving for so long should not it be improved until now.
It can be explained...see bp pills work on different modalities in our body for controlling blood pressure... They work on kidney and on our blood vessels but medicine dosage are increased whenever you have poor control on bp... Mostly in our household we dont have a check on bp and along with that we need some lifestyle modification such as brisk exercise and weight reduction salt restrictions but it is tough for ages above 45 or 50 plus... And secondly modern drugs are designed on the basis of receptor function so body receptors too adapt themselves either reduce their number or vanish themselves on continuous stimulation. For you mumma i would say ask her about daily headache.. heavy headedness..swelling of foot.. sweating and short temper mood can be signs of daily raised bp. And other reason is that these are lifestyle disorder...you have to adapt a new diet plan some calorie cut and physical activities(lifestyle modification) for medicine to have optimised control,but in india our diet is carbs based and it is hard to count calories and eat especially in that age. Happens in my home too,but as a doc i can see it why?
And dont skip bp meds...it is fatal because assume ur heart as a motor and not taking bp meds will make pipes(arteries) more thin and u know when motor forces water in thin pipes...either pipe bursts or motor shuts down.
Excellent video Pranav. Your presentation is excellent. Ayurveda and science was always a mystery for me . Something that doesn't support scientific method must be questioned and debunked.
@Dhruva Punde Yes i agree with you...but I have seen some ayurveda specialists diagnose patients according to their body types ( I think they call these as vata, pitta and kapha may be.. I don't know much about these, sorry!) And they cure so many type of chronic diseases in this type of diagnosis only!...so in my opinion there must be some reason behind it!! But this tridosha model worked for so many people...even i experienced it!
If they are doing reverse pharmacology and find out the active ingredient, it's just modern medicine no need to call it any other name, i mean if proper scientific research is done in all alternative systems of medicine it automatically becomes modern medicine
Ayruvedic doctor mostly has a BAMS degree which has/had both contents of modern and ayurveda sciences , before few years they could perform general surgical operations, but a law changed it And limited it to only pg's doing so. Also bams where most of ayurvedic doctors lie is usually grouped together (I.e. in Ayush) with homeopathy and others which are highly ineffective and unscientific Where a bams doctor would recommend few lifestyle changes and little Medicine A corrupt doctor would put him on excessive medications to get perks form Medicine companies ( there are good doctors too which don't do such things ) This makes Indian people fear from modern Medicine. I think there should be a balance between those using ayurvedic where ever it is effective and modern Medicine where it fails.
i don't know if you will notice this comment.. but as an atheist, critical thinker and an ayurvedic consultant, i request you to have me in a discussion that will clear some of the confusion you have regarding five element theory and tridosha theory used in ayurveda
Ayurveda says 5 basic elements make up human body . But never says universe was made of 5 basic elements which Aristotle claims . You contradicted your own statement
Ayurveda may not be a modern science, but definitely it works very well if we use it in proper way May be emergency immediate cure as anti virals and anti bacterials are not there in ayurveda but definitely in noncommercial diseases like modern diseases Ayurveda works wonderful In modern medicine all lifestyle diseases are not curable we have to use medicine for lifelong But ayurveda helps in this better than modern medicine, I used to have skin diseases, severe skin diseases like hypoderma( hyper skin inflammation) i have consulted many doctors and they worked temporarily after sometime again same situation And few medicines given me too much side effects, But after following ayurvedic recommendations, i got permanent relief But it's very complicated process, we have to change all our food habits and lifestyle Cold and hot water should not drink Eating food from refrigerator is not allowed Have to sleep early and wake up early and doing yoga, pranayam, meditation in specific way For skin problem i was recommended to not eat spicy and fried foods, There are many many many recommendations, in every food types there recommendations which I have to avoid and which I have to consume So i followed everything because it was my last option, Slowly day by day reduced and after 3 months i clearly came out from that disease Actually my immunity was compromised because of unhealthy lifestyle, So even now if i follow wrong lifestyle definitely i will again get same issue So ayurveda is not about medicine but a right lifestyle with right habits What to eat and when to eat and how to eat, We can take useful practices from every practice For communicable diseases i go to modern hospital but for lifestyle diseases which are in the top of the list of popular disease in modern world, i approach to ayurveda For emergency we have to go to hospital, so use it But today's problems are lifestyle diseases, Definitely ayurveda can prevent almost many lifestyle diseases For prevention follow ayurveda, For emergency follow allopathy
Feedback- Bro, please don't make bigger videos, you can divide it into 2 episodes. Because, the audience of this channel are legends, so it's difficult to spend that much amount of time for a single video in a day. We are busy guys, so we can't afford that time bro, I hope you understand.
Bro, aren't the timestamps I put in the video helpful? Sometimes a topic deserves a longer video so I have to. But I always make sure my audience can skip to the required section
@@scienceisdope but bro, I want this channel to Grow. People don't click on video usually if the video is long. This reduces the click through rate. Also longer video reduces the Audience retention. So better create episodes so that new people will subscribe to wait for the next parts. I hope you are getting me. You are a great TH-camr. You atleast deserve 100k+ subscribers
Thanks a lot bro... I'll surely make videos shorter wherever possible. But I'm not sure longer videos reduce click through rates. Been doing some research that shows otherwise.
@@scienceisdope Yes bro, people also look the time duration along with the thumbnail. If they find duration more than 10-15 minutes then they usually skip clicking on the video and that's how your impression click through rate will reduce. So TH-cam's algorithm will suggest that video lesser.
Though you are 100% reasonable throughout this video, but I think you missed out on the cons of modern medical procedures which I would like to point out. Why is it that our modern scientific methodology has to bash every traditional procedures on the first hand and if they find their procedure/treatment harmful then only they seek help from various traditional sources, why can't they open mindedly accept the fact, that, OK this has a process of curing X for a thousand years, let me find it's efficacy scientifically with my process. Wouldn't that seem efficient ? Hasn't there been many modern drugs lately(scientifically approved) which cause more harm than cure ? Is ayurveda just about medicine, don't you think you missed somethings there too. Nevertheless, can't say u missed these unwittingly or deliberately, but I applause your efforts and research for the rest of what u have done. It is indeed very important not to hold too much pride in our heads and question everything reasonably.😊
1. Isn't it the responsibility of those practicing traditional med to prove the efficacy of their drugs via trials etc.? Also how much money is anybody willing to invest in the process . 2. If there's a medicine in modern med that causes more harm than good then they are taken off of the market. That's why there are clinical trials and a concept of therapeutic window in pharmacodynamics. 3 . Modern med is not just about drugs and chemicals. It also propagates the idea of basic lifestyle modifications to prevent diseases but today's bad diet and sedentary life causes more harm than good .
Burden falls on ayurvedic docs to prove through clinical trails , research. Just like in cout , plaintiff has burden to prove allegations against defendant are true. As u hav cited, many clinical trials are conducted on aswaghanda n turmeric by modern medicine. Example Artsimin based drugs are widely used against malaria. Any drug which is backed by clinical trails , is automatically accepted in modern medicine . I hav seen ayurvedic practioners prescribing allopathic medicines over ayurvedic medicines . There is lack of regulation of ayurvedic medicines , leading to heavy metal content in them .
@@DrSujoy Patients who use Ayurvedic medicines will find out its efficacy but why should already established medicine prove its efficacy to the lovers of allopathic chemical medicines ?
I always wanted to research about this topic of Ayurveda giving good results but having inaccurate explaination but never got around to actually doing it. thanks for the video, must have taken a lot of time to research.
As u mention at 20:15 , tried ayurvedic medicine for life threatening acidity as a last resort, after trying every possible antacid & probiotic from my doctor. I am grateful i survived because of it. Yeah, I still don't know the medical model of how/why it worked ( neither does my allopathic doctor : but he agrees that there are unknown things like this where ayurveda shows surprising effectiveness. So, it should exist always as an alternative even if it cant be explained by the chemical model).
@@varunv2584 yes. if acidity is not stopped at a certain level, it starts burning away the stomach linings & can cause internal injuries, internal bleeding etc.
I just came from Ayurvedic workshop. I can't help, but suspect there is a lot of placebo and self -fulfilling prohecies involved. What i appreciate about it might be the thought, that not all people are the same and they need different exercise, meditatiom, they have different emotional needs. Btw, i can't help but think, that not eating raw vegetables might be better in hot and humid climates, because cooking kills bacteria. There is ecoli, etc.
What about the research that shows that a certain percentage of Ayurvedic medicine has heavy metals such as lead, mercury, and arsenic? Is that not also a risk of taking Ayurvedic medicine?
Yes I did bring up that research at 14:39. But decided not to dwell on it because it's a problem with regulation and not necessarily a problem with Ayurveda. And also because it's a low hanging fruit that easily (and unfairly imo) biases someone against Ayurveda
Akul I have been asthmatic took lot of steroids lost immunity. But by satvik food, life style , spirituality ,natural herbs , gooseberry my immunity shot up I switched to yogavana hills ayurvedic treatment and their natural tips like using morning saliva as medicine it works sometimes but proper diet and lifestyle is must for anything to work
those ingredients will be purified before using in medicine there are procedures to purify Mercury and all other stuff there is alot to explain read rasaratna samuchayam
@@sindhura1341 A lot of people have, buddy, Steroids only lead to more steroids. Clavam, Montena L and Butadene steroids become life. When you start doing getting into Yoga and Ayurveda, you notice the change. I have seen similar experience from many young people. There might be some drawbacks to Ayurveda, but they aren't as significant to those tablets and Injections doctors(proponent of allopathy) load you with.
Newton's laws are right until relativity and quantum mechanics come into play . But for most practical engineering and technology Newton's laws does the job .
Kindly check out Dr BM Hegde's talks on Ayurveda. He has spoke about Germ Theory and your articulation is good but there are people far more educated than you are exporting Ayurvedic medicine abroad and are using Ayurvedic methods . There are talks in the UK to establish Ayurvedic hospitals and Germany too. So basically, your whole videos have less facts and seem to be more agenda driven.
I am a Ayurvedic Intern , You Don't have any idea what are you talking about. Just Trying to defame our culture in every way . And bro Ayurveda Simply Means The Knowledge of Life.
If you know anyone one of them tabhi baat kario uddiyan bandha moolbandha kundalini jagaran recharge kumbhaka. Abeeeee chutiyeeeee tujhy lund ka kuch ni pata aur ise b ni jiski video dekhra hai tu. Aur naam dekho wanna be ka can dex matlab koi logic hai🤡
For a while now, I haven’t uploaded anything. But that doesn’t mean I haven’t been working. This video took such a long time because researching it took me forever. The worst part is that just before upload this news came out about Ayurvedic surgery. So I had to add a part to the video that made the video ugly(to me, at least).
TH-cam might penalize me for a low frequency of upload so all I can ask is if you did enjoy it, please share it so that it reaches more people :)
@@Sagar-hz7kx vasthu is bullshit
@@Sagar-hz7kx These are all ancient wisdoms that may or may not have truth to them. They are arrived at without trying to eliminate cognitive biases bro.
@@Sagar-hz7kx watch out my take on jaggis bullshit, why not to sleep pointing north. The other things you asked for are touch based on my channel. Hope you will get some info
I think these reserchers haven't read bible
If they had they would have got plenty of pseudoscience (flat earth theory ,god at 9th heaven ,earth as centre of earth)
Understand the limitations of past.atleast we were clear with these subjects
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"Instead dividing medicine into Ayurvedic and Allopathic, divide medicine into effective and non-effective" - well said Pranav.
Thanks man :) please share the video if you enjoyed it :)
Bro... There is no allopathy.. It's now called evidence based modern medicine...
@@zulfi1984 Yup, calling allopathy an English medicine shows how ignorant people are.
@kay kay ya ya because of that ineffective shit . today we are typing the comments here.long back there is no modern hospitals and drugs.all these generations survived with that ineffective shit 😂
@@sandeepkumarmedapati4001 u can say they survived with their own immune system, very few ayurvedic medicines even work
So happy to know that India still has people who are skeptic and think rationally.
Yeah people are there... but it drastically reducing.. bcz govt imposing own anicient blv into people.. they r simply want to remove rationality n science
@@presunjittripura3795 Every HINDU tradition has deep science in it right from the beginning, only nowadays MACULAY's illegal children are bouncing and yelling from their's WHITE father's lap. Keep baarking we do not bother.
@no From 5000 years and before people eapecially HINDUs lead a very healthy life and we had SURGERIES performed by RISHI SUSHRUT. The main problem is you MACUALY'S ILLEGAL CHILDREN do not know SANSKRIT and hence cannot even read those great works. So even if you bark it will notstop us from continuing our tradition.
@@rudrawahal7726 if u feel better in 5000 yrs back da way rishi/ guru live, then why d heck you r enjoying ur modern life in couch confined in ac room.. u should leave urban n start living in himalyan deep forests..
@@rudrawahal7726 now dont say dat 1st Plastic surgery was done on Ganesh head...
Why is this channel underrated??
It should be the top channel on TH-cam as this man is spreading truth and facts.
I really liked the bit where you breakdown how modern medicine and ayurveda differs and giving ayurveda its rightful purpose in modern age. It is just that I think that the mass public are susceptible to be polarized and can easily digest perceptions as either good or bad and may fail to see the middle ground.
I know I'm late to the party, but this is a great video and I'm glad I found it. I thought you gave Ayurveda a reasonable level of respect while still properly demonstrating the legitimate issues with the practice. You even went as far as trying to tackle the cultural based defense of Ayurveda, which I can't imagine was easy. I look forward to checking out your other videos...
Thanks a lot! I guarantee you, you'll enjoy them! Please also share 😊
@@scienceisdope bro can I have your achievements list or education please make some new concept too and
You have addressed few very good points in many videos but I have noticed some biasness as well. I will list out them for you and your audience
the biasness which I found in this video.
1. Title: Ayurveda "VS" Science :- Very smartly By this title alone you have put Ayurveda in a defensive position. " Ayurveda vs Modern Medicine" would have been better. You have maliciously used the word science in same way as you accuse others of using like "Sadhguru and Shri Shri Ravi Shankar"
2. Ayurveda is PseudoScience:- You have called ayurveda a PseudoScience cause of it's model the Panchmahabhoot model which you say is wrong according to Science. Many Scientific ideas and theories have been proved wrong like plumpudding model, does that make it a Pseudoscience?? Galelio was wrong in few of his findings so does that make his research PseudoScience?
you also forget that the same ayurveda also talks about rakht - blood , mazza - marrow, vasa-fat, haddi - bone etc and the Acharya Sushrut that you praised for plastic surgery was working on the same model and ideas. Human Body is almost 60 -75% water this is verfied by Western Medicine, Brain contains electrical impulses and many more research is going on.
Does Ayurveda has cure for all illness? Definitely not.
Does Modern Medicine has cure for all illness ? Definitely not.
I will give you few more but unreleated examples.
100 years ago - Yoga was called quackery by Modern Medicine but now has verified many of claims inculding efficient in reducing stress, anxiety and in some cases Blood Pressure. So by your definition Modern medicine is PseudoScience and Yoga is the Ultimate?? No right??
Untill 2 decades ago all kind of saturated fat was labeled as "Life Threatening" by Modern Medicine, Today Modern Medicine recommends "Ghee" for healthy individuals because of its nourishing effects.
Am I saying "Ayurveda is ultimate truth" and "Modern science is bad" ? No, Absolutely not I am just calling you out for your hypocrisy.
3. Traditional Doesn't mean good:- Agreed something is traditional doesn't mean its correct or right but if something has stood test of time for thousands of years then it surely does deserve a chance of being objectively studied and it would have been good if you have considered visiting a good ayurvedic college.
You smartly call people to be rational and objective but you yourself are not.
In my personal opinion you are no better than people like String who are filled with agendas. Peace out
finally a good comment, see, I like this dude and I enjoy his videos and learn through them but I was searching for a smart comment here, I have not done any research but I just want to appreciate you for giving out good points instead of just being "ayurveda is good lolxd stfu"
Righty said most of the part . Just not able to understand why this channel is defaming own culture and tradition .
He told about Aristotle talked about 4 elements of human body, but much before that we knew and proved that there are 5 elements. Modern medicine is brought by west ppl and ayurveda is not a pseudoscience.
Just wanted to know Pranav only refer wikipedia to prove his explanations or has he really read any of the ancient books ?
@@vass3659 Thank you :)
Listen the part from 18:04. That single simple line will help you understand why he said so. And about the title it is somewhat biased but not completely wrong tho. But judging on the basis of the title will give you no answers. The video is good. He neither called ayurveda good nor bad. He just stated why ayurveda is called pseudoscience but most of em only see these things as indian culture that oh no he only targets our Indian culture. Its interesting atleast people are questioning these things and want evidence of what ayurveda or any other branch we believe from thousand of years states. I see this as a video full of knowledge which can be criticized or supported by our opinions or evidence. Hope you do the same.
@@horizon5549 questioning something is good and that's why i did.... calling something pseudoscience means you completely understand that thing and are 100% certain without an iota of doubt that it's method were non-scientific but and this is a big but, this branch is so old we are not sure how was it derived? How did these people reached such conclusions?
Secondly all modern scientific approach and methods are built on ancient methods which not 100% conform with modern methods...are they all pseudoscience?
Did this guy read ayurveda? Read all the lectures -the main three books ? Or even did a small crash course?
Final nail to your argument..he called it pseudoscience cause it doesn't follow scientific methods...Sushruth has detailed writings on how to perform rhinoplasty (part of Ayurveda) accepted by modern medicine as very close to today's practice.....
So was it a pseudoscience?
Give respect where its due..and instead of calling a branch of medicine pseudoscience whose most of the writings are lost to time he could have gone with that there is a lot of pseudoscience in name of Ayurveda today..but he critised the whole thing without even having relevant expertise...
Questioning something is always good and you should question...but was he questioning in the video or giving result and judgements?
Does Ayurveda have some wrong concepts - absolutely...
Did modern medicine 100 years back had wrong concepts absolutely ( all germs were believed to be harmful).
Should there be more research in both the fields ....yes absolutely...
In science there is a very big impact of terminology...
And I am not just defending ayurveda..look at chinese traditional acupuncture, herbology, and cupping...these are all science just of different times..doesn't make them pseudo
If something has been there for like 5000 years and has been working every now and then, then there has to be some value to it. Essentially all medicines are chemicals and and all herbs have many of those chemicals. So proper research should be done on those ayurvedic medicines which work and active ingredients of those should be identified and included towards modern medicine.
Exactly
If Ayurveda was that effective people wouldn’t be skeptical about it.
@@grootguy890 effective or not , there will always be a certain amount of people skeptic in every damn thing. Take the example of covid vaccine.
@@grootguy890 it works slow...nd during medications we r not allowed to eat certain foods etc... nd this reel generation don't have this much patience..while in modern medicine we just have to pop up pills..i think thats why.. I'm on against modern medicine btw..😂
@@riyameera5936 it may work
But people aren’t committed to doing the steps .
We all go after convenience,but we need to educate people about overdosing medicines which can certainly damage ur liver if done frequently
This guy did not said a word about the side effects from allopathy he has a problem with religion not Ayurveda see his other videos
Well I don't know why Indians don't realise that they got independence and the fact that we have our own culture.. they just copy west
People just claim Ayurveda is pseudoscientific without knowing what it is.. they never point out a single mistake from allopathy and the business mafia. Just watch Dr Hegde talk we get an idea about it.
@@prithvi6078 exactly
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Yes I agree ayurvedic experts should use the modern techniques available and evolve the practice with openness. However it will be really foolish to directly dump ayurveda, the preventive and lifestyle lessons from ayurveda work and had worked for me. And I totally agree with u on seeking modern medicine for immediate effect and ayurveda for some chronic ones.
Yes for chronic ones after taking advice from doctor
Yes... People do ignore and defame ayurveda. Actly my friends even laugh at me when I use ayurvedic remedies, they think ayurveda is about baba ramdev and patanjali products.
Infact, ayurveda is not just some pseudo science. The ancient rishis did experiments and written down natural medicines which works in ayurveda.
And when they don't even know the M of modern medicine???
This is a fantastic video, but unfortunately I think people get confusion even after this. So I think it could be said as ayurveda is mostly based on observation.
The models you mentioned came because of people observing that fire is always pointing upwards and air is lighter than earth.
The observation is right, only the explanation is wrong. Back then people didn't have understanding about atoms and molecules (slightly confused about the terminology of Anu and Paramanu here, needs clarity) and atomic properties, they decided there were 5 natural elements. They weren't knowing how to break them further.
Now, if we take these elements as black box, then I think it does explain the reasons behind the mixtures they make and proportions of herbs (again, from observations) they use which are working.
Having said that, I agree that Ayurveda is a wellness system and not a curing system. It had the right intentions, but just not right explanations on why their observations were working.
If you think my understanding from this video is incorrect, please feel free to explain again. As you said, scientific temper needs to increase and I believe it does when people have more and more rational discussions.
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Had me in the first half
This cracked me up, and made my day! Awesome!!!
In my opinion there should only be morden medicine, since it's far more effective it should be available to everyone and not some other less effective one..... At the same time ayurveda system can be used only for research purposes to adapt it to morden system and shoul not act separately
That's my main point of the video :)
@@scienceisdope but government trying to cling onto the 'ancestors sentiments 'and ancient India pride , it's still a far cry 😟
@@ahelidas8885 well said bro
Who are you? What are your qualifications to talk about a bonafide system of medical science like Ayurveda? Are you a medical doctor or scientist? Or just propagating your non-scientific comic opinions and building a fan following? If you don't have any qualifications on medicine then you shouldn't debate.
I've only watched this one video and I can already tell that this is the kind of science based, unbiased and genuine opinion I was looking for. Saved me a lot of time researching the frustratingly diverse, bi-polar and often unreliable evidence and proof on the Internet. My parents almost forced me into skipping an urgent and much needed surgery suggested by multiple doctors just because on of my relatives said Ayurvedic medicine will cure me without a surgery. If only they could watch this and change their perspective. Liked and subscribed :)
Thank you :) I'm glad the video helped. Please share with like minded folks :)
for surgical purpose allopathy is best....but for chronic illness ayurveda is best...both have their own limitations...
@@seeker7090 one has limitation. Another itself is a limitation as it is pseudoscience
@@seeker7090 pranav didnt said ayurveda is best for chronic , he said you can try ayurveda if you really trust it , but always ignore ayurveda
@@jhsofficialbluray4573 i have tried ayurvedic medicine for my chronic illness n m completely fine now.... allopathy has disappointed me...
I am an Ayurvedic doctor and I agree to most of your points but I think i can put more light on ayurveda as a science (primitive one) and how the theory isn’t utterly wrong as you stated
Lol you’re a conman at best Niraj. Stop scamming people with your joke of an education.
@@1245aryan Im wondering how big of a snowflake one must be to call anyone else a 'conman' without even knowing the other person and what he does.
Ayurveda does not follow the scientific method.
Research, Study, review, Upgrade, change. That's science method.
But Ayurveda has been same since 500 years. Learnt nothing new. In the mean while Medical sciences had discovered many new things, even new organs.
And Medical sciences also made some friends named Pharmacy, Chemistry, Physics and some more. They are growing together.
And until 1950 life expectancy in India is 30 years. Today it's 70 years, because of increase in hospitals and modern medicine.
In USA and Japan it's almost 80 years.
Maybe u can put light on how 'if u know' ayurveda is science.
So far ayurveda has shown it's principles as pseudoscience
hiii , plz can we talk about bams , I wanted to persuve bams soo need some help
Ayurveda first decides your body types before giving you any medications. Which I think is indeed a good approach cause every humans require different requirements.
body types based on the amount of fire,sky,earth and water in my body.VERY SCIENTIFIC
@@giridhargopinath9504 concept of body type classification is real even if not on the basis of basic elements. Don't be blind and naieve.
@@truePac47 Who will not accept it?
@@truePac47 Nobody is superior or inferior Sir/Ma'am
@@sai_69 bro i would say bmi is very vague thing to do that(so is dosha system, unless there is any research breakthrough occurs).
Based on your bmi, one can't conclude your metabolic, neurotic, cardiovascular, or any other activities.
Massive, massive respect to you, man. I started following your channel today & I've binge watched 5 videos already. The amount of effort you've put in for virtually no personal gain except the furthering of science is most impressive.
Thanks a lot man! Please do share the videos!
Ayurveda is not medicine, आयुर्वेद is way of healthy Life 😊
I came across your channel today and I was intrigued with your approach to many pseudo scientists, and I agree with that but sadly to this video I’ll disagree very strongly. Being an Ayurvedic Practitioner. I have list of things you mentioned which are wrong.
1. The 5 element theory, the panchamahaabhut as you mentioned are not the basic 5 elements that you mentioned here, this co relation is a wrong one. If you read and I would recommend you must, these mahabhut are themselves composed of smaller elements called the tanmatras. These are not the elements but rather abstract concepts. Read chapter one of sutra sthan of charak samhita for better understanding.
2. Secondly the germ theory you mentioned, Ayurveda clearly mentions in extensive detail of jan pad udvans, you’ll find this in charak too.
3. In the other video you mentioned of how there is no talk about sexuality of women in ancient text, you are clearly mistaken again. Prasuti and Stri Rog is a branch of Astang Ayurveda.
I don’t know which Ayurvedic Practitioners and Students you talked to for this video but clearly you mentioned a lot of things wrong, please don’t make half researched videos✌🏼.
Can u enlighten on first point,
how do u individualize the treatment based on tht ?
Finally somebody with a rational approach. However there is one major flaw in your claim about the Ayurvedic classifications of the five elements. The five elements are more so classification of material existence. Unlike the Greeks, the “mahabhootani” are not static or rigid in Vedic philosophy. More than they are philosophical descriptions and not scientific ones. They are classifications; space (ākāsha): all that which exists materially (the originator of material) materially; vāyu: the aspect of motion; Agni: the aspect of radiation; jala: the aspect of liquidity; bhoomi: the aspect of solidity
More than that, the tridosha theory focuses the characteristics of these aspects. Akasha is the most subtle of all, and is only noticed by the apparent lack of it; hence shabda or sound is its “tanmatra”. Vayu is that of motion, especially air, hence its “tanmatra” is sparsha or touch. Agni is that of radiation, more specifically heat/light, therefore it’s essence (tanmatra) being rupa or form. Jala is that of liquidity, in the context of the human body, it is water, and it’s essence is noticeable in taste or rasa. Finally, bhoomi/prithvi is that of solidity and it’s Ayurvedic association is that of smell or the capability to smell
Together, the elements form the three doshas: Vata as that of movement and respiration (vayu + akasha); Pitta as that of digestion and metabolism (Agni + jala); Kapha as that of lubrication and structure (jala + bhoomi). The more you read Ayurvedic scriptures, the idea that the five elements are of the most basic form actually weakens; the Samhitas fully acknowledge the wide range of material that each classification entails.
Moreover, as you described, Ayurveda is concerned with imbalances in the doshas of a person. Here, it is only right to admit, that several of the times, Ayurveda was mixed with contemporary “sciences” such as that of astrology as mechanisms through which doctors had believed to deduce the doshas. I mention this to debunk that point where you seem to imply Ayurveda was an outlier in Indian sciences. Ayurveda not only incorporated developments other contemporary fields of engineering (as suggested by the extremely specific design of the tools used in some of the samhitas) and chemistry (rasayanashastra) to create a vast variety of medicines. That said, it does not follow anything similar to the rigid structure of the scientific method, and admittedly, several of the samhitas may even contradict one another when put into practice. And of course, I would be willing to bet charaka and susruta would vouch for our modern medical systems as well, but I do think that you need to credit the consistency of Ayurveda. Also, it’s definitely not a pseudoscience simply because elements of it are prone to being pseudoscientific.
Also, it is a bit of a genetic fallacy to call Ayurvedic principles pseudoscientific on the premise of it having come out of a fallacious ideology. Simply because something comes from something else, it does not make it the same.
Your comment is a great example that actually knowledgeable people don't feel threatened by the knowledge of others like so many WhatsApp uncles these days.
Please consider my comment! I liked the way you're actually Scientific, you're not biased to any side that's why I even feel it's useful to write this
See, Ayurveda's model doesn't seem to be Scientific at all as per today's findings through the modern science but that doesn't mean it doesn't work! I've been applying this model in my daily life for past 1 yr! And after the application of the tridosha concept for this much period of time with my proper observations of symptoms of everything as per Ayurveda I'm really convinced to believe on this model though it's unscientific completely. Waiting for the time when proper research work is conducted on this model with complete unbiasedness 😭😭
Research work was already performed. Scientists first developed a simple model; and then go for a more complex, realistic model. That's why science progresses. Ayurveda is a simple model; based on the understanding of that time. Simple models can also explain many things. That's why Ayurveda also works in some cases. Scientists developed their understanding based on simpler models; then develop the more complex model. Our understanding of chemistry and biology improved; that's why we are now able to figure out the root cause of diseases.
@@SoumitraKhirpai right everything starts from basic, physics and chemistry everything developed step by step, we have lambos today, it doesn't mean Human's invention of round tires is waste
Categorising, human body on basis of vata, pitta, kapha, is superb, and very accurate , I have been reasearching more and more, and it fits evertime,, ellopathy works to control and balance the symptoms, Ayurveda work on root to end the problem
@@SoumitraKhirpai what is the root cause of disease?
@@nirajsinghkarki9556 bro the whole thing is modern medical system is more profitable. A single pill can be sold for thousand bucks where as Ayurveda is inexpensive and effective. That's why to save business, people are destroying ayurveda.
As an 18 year old, who chose BAMS due to a less than stellar NEET score, you are making me regret my life choices mate 😭
Great and really informative video btw, i freakin love your channel.
Now considering all the information. Since current mainstream ayurveda courses (such as BAMS) teach us both, ayurveda and allopathy, i am personally gonna follow the motto "what works and what doesn't", as you have stated in this video.
imo such course should be scrapped, and more medical colleges should be opened for increasing the pool of MBBS doctors
Sir believe me, the iq of the ancient people was hundred times better than the people now days. If you think slowly you will understand.
Don't feel disheartened and try to prove every body wrong with effective ayurvedic medicines. Ayurveda's and alternative medicine work starts when Allopathic doctors give up.
You are on right way please study well and Thank me later 🙏
Please cite some legit examples when Ayurveda comes to the rescue when Allopathy had given up.
Why does every allopathic medicine have side effects?
Because they have effects. And stop calling it allopathy for god’s sake
@@harshrajjadhav940
It has side effects not because it has effects , it’s because they are chemicals . It should be called only allopathy .
Because they have more active molecules, Which gives better and Fast results. Ayurvedic medicines have side effects too, Not every churan you eat has molecules for Humans, they are made to benefit plants by the plants, if they work, they work but it's just their side quest.
Everything helped to increase our understanding. Scientists first developed some simple models and then tried to develop more realistic models. Complex models are mostly developed on the understanding of simple models. Simple models can also explain many things. Ayurveda, Unani, etc are like simple models based on our understanding of that time. Some of their medicines are also effective; that's why people followed them. As our knowledge about the chemistry and biology of molecules increases, we are able to understand the root cause of diseases in a better way. We are also able to develop much better medicine based on our present understanding. Nowadays we are talking about nanomedicine. Maybe our current understanding will change in near future...that's the way science progresses.
True
But still some diseases cannot be cured in modern science but can be in ayurveda ex- diabetes
Something I choose to believe is that Ayurveda and English medicine is that they originated based on plants and stuff that's native to their areas. English medicine chose to refine and get only the active chemicals, but Ayurveda chose to stick to the base sources. The trial and error method seems to fit in with my idea. The issue here is how people believed Ayurveda is superior and hence, this didn't evolve with changing times. People are still holding on to the past, which has now been proven wrong.
PS: This conflict aside, homeopathy is an absolute joke.
Yea I think everything knows that homeopathy was really bad
I dug out this video because someone was maligning Ayurveda a lot on social media. In the process I learnt a lot especially about the application of scientific models to test effective medicines.
I agree with all your points, since it is the only logical thing to do.
I would just like to say, I know of at least one doctor, a friend of my father's, now retired, who is an Ayurvedic doctor for his whole life. Everyone in his family is one. He's one of the most practical, observation driven and extremely intelligent people I know. When I say intelligence, I don't just mean bookish intelligence, but a rare combination of actual practical wisdom, common sense, and academic intelligence. His clinic, now run by his son who is also an Ayurvedic doctor, was always full of people seeking medicines for various treatments. This person was the epitome of ethics in life and work. If there wasn't a remedy for a particular condition in Ayurveda, he used to directly tell his patients about that. Instead, he tried to help them by offering suggestions in diet and lifestyle changes to reduce some of the symptoms.
I actually used to go to his clinic to discuss certain life struggles I faced as a kid in college, and also I had a problem with acne.
But at any rate, whenever someone maligns Ayurveda blindly, I am always reminded of this doctor, who represents the gold standard of medical ethics to me, and I wonder, how did he cure all those people if his medicine wasn't effective?
He is the most scientific person I know, and used to test the patient's pulse to find out if they had any underlying health issues and used to treat them accordingly.
And in most of the cases, the medicine was proven effective to treat the condition.
I am now thinking, it was due to him applying the principles of Ayurveda correctly to the problems, to get the desired results.
The ayurveda taught in school still teach modern scientific theory (as, only science students can take Ayurveda).
Most ayurveda students are doing research (as far as I'm aware)
Only students who scored weakly in science go to these quack schools. Their research is useless. They don't understand modern science properly and their research goes nowhere.
@@simstar6557 Cope .
@@simstar6557 u r a fool just look into it its going very well u r delusional kid
@@vvdpabhishek3464 name just one modern discovery produced by any Ayurveda college. One.
@@simstar6557 name anything good that came out from your mom
Sometimes, the TH-cam algorithm works well.
As a westerner, I'd say finding perspectives of someone informed in the roots of many new age-ish concepts and applying healthy skepticism is sometimes hard.
Looking forward for more of your content.
Liked and subscribed. Great work!
Thanks a lot :) This means a lot 😊 Please share the video so that it reaches more people
@@scienceisdope I'm in the process of transcribing your words and translate to my native language to see if I can get some subtitles on this content! (I'd like to share it with non-English speakers hehe).
So I can possibly get you subs in English and Portuguese in a near future.
Hope it's OK, please let me know otherwise :)
@@tempestive1 yes please that would be very helpful. I tried using TH-cam auto-subtitles but it didn't work for some reason
th-cam.com/video/K-mgmIjaRlY/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TEDxTalks watch this and you will understand what is Ayurved. Watch BM Hegde and then you can judge.
I feel this is unbiased ...but I also see an opportunity we have never explored. People who believe in Ayurveda must help the system progress with the help of knowledge we have gathered over the centuries.....
Let science lead not create chaos and confusion...
Main reason why people tend to relay on homeo and ayurveda is due to side effects of modern allopathic medicines in prolonged use . Can you pls make a video regarding this.
He won't lol.
@@ninjak1a Anything that has a effect is bound to have side effects. Reducing the severity of those effects is the main motive.
Gilloy is creating liver colaps medicines top 🙃🙂😭😭
So ayurvedic medicine doesn’t have side effects?? Try some hope you don’t land into liver failure
So, ayurveda doesn't have side effects. Just drink cow urine, and see if you can't get hospitalised within a week
Underrated TH-camr. People aren't ready for your content... Yet. Keep it up brother.
He says 5 eliments model is wrong... 😂😛
If you trust these research papers so much, CNN has quoted a study in a 2017 article which found that nearly 30% of FDA approved drugs had some problems. Getting approved in the first place is a difficult thing as FDA has strict policies and even yet they make mistakes. Every field has its own flaws. Try to use things practically rather than reading research pprs and concluding results.
> 30% of FDA approved drugs have issues
And? At least we know of those issues due to the rigorous oversight and regulation of evidence-based medicine.
Should we instead use remedies which are completely untested?
This guy is insulting hate comment guy and disliking guy in video to prevent hate comment and dislikes for this video in accordance to benefit from youtube.
This is business
Yup many content creators try to avoid hate comments in someway or the other and i guess he is one among them and he is most probably trying to make the people who have counter arguments think themselves as foolish and make them feel guilty or something
I don't know if he actually wants to do this
Very well covered in a very balanced manner.
How well you dealt with this sensitive issue is commendable.
As a white person interested in debunking pseudoscience I always find the topics of Ayurvedic and TCM tricky. I don’t want be racist or have a colonizer type attitude, but I also don’t want to just agree that some things are valid if they are not. I don’t assume that I’m better or wiser because I’m white, I’m concerned about “alternative medicine” simply because it’s not well regulated, it’s not tested and too often filled with false claims about miracle cures. My biggest concern overall is how I see some alternative medicine practitioners take advantage of people and who scare monger about modern medicine leaving people at risk. I find there are some who feel mainstream research and medicine are biased and predominately based on “white science” (not my words), I can’t say for certain if there is any validity or not to this.
I liked your perspective that sometimes the trial and error of traditional medicine did result in discoveries of effective medicines, I agree. I’ve heard the quote from that comedian before and still love it, I think it applies well to this complicated topic. What I enjoyed most is getting to hear this perspective from someone who is Indian living in India and is a part of the culture. I have wanted to hear more Indian perspectives on the topic of Ayurvedic for quite some time, I’m specifically interested in hearing the perspectives of those interested in science or even scientists themselves, just because it’s not a perspective I know enough about, it’s easy to find lots of pro-Ayurvedic Indian perspectives so finding the other perspective is interesting.
My sentiments exactly as another white person. I think a lot of what Ayurveda teaches actually makes sense and feels right for me, but some of it feels off, like a lot of the dietary recommendations.
One crucial difference between Ayurveda and Allopathic treatment:
Allopathy is focused on treating the symptoms and making sure the person becomes asymptomatic whereas ayurveda is about healing from within by focusing on the root cause and not the symptoms.
This is not crucial difference the real Crucial difference is Allopathy follows Scientific Method, Ayurveda don't. What you mentioned is just the method, both allopathy and Ayurveda Cures from Roots and maybe even before like Vaccination does in case of Allopathy
@@prathamkalgutkar7538 how does allopathy cures from root? And if it does then why do people still csrry symptoms?
18:10 integrated medicine section is awesome man, we need to come out of this mindset that science = west. Also feel Sushruta would have said 'science is dope', had x-rays been discovered when he was living!
Haha thanks man :) Please make sure you share it :)
Ayurveda: It is grounded in observation and experience: the foundational pillars of science. And some Ayurvedic herbal remedies have been evaluated in placebo-controlled trials-with mixed results. However, modern scientific method is, by design, only concerned with things that can be measured. Ayurveda, on the other hand, is far more esoteric and involves lots of things that cannot be easily measured by the instruments and methods used by modern science.
In Ayurveda, for example, your regimen is customized according to your “dosha,” or your energetic constitution, as well as any energetic imbalances that may be contributing to your symptoms. That theory is a little hard to test with modern scientific methods! But people who believe in this system of medicine are content to do it the way it’s always been do
Nice presentation. One thing you missed is the discussion of what exactly constitutes scientific evidence. You could briefly discuss how modern science establishes that a new treatment is better than a placebo through statistics. Not the details, just the basics would be useful for your audience.
I did do that didn't I? In the clinical trials section?
@@scienceisdope I guess they are talking about a very simple explanation of how Randomised Control Trials are done to test the efficacy of new drugs.
I haven't gone through the video on Ayurveda. I thoroughly enjoyed the very fine graphics and editing that accompanied your video on Astronomy, Galilleo, Bruni and others. My problem with Ayurveda, Unani, Chinese Medicine is not that they work sometimes, but the basic model of ayurveda is loosely similar to Greek model of understanding disease. At that time, it was a huuuuge step forward, compared to the existing model of blaming evil spirits for causing disease.
Again, there are lot of similarities between Doshas and the various humors of ancient Greek medicine. For their time, it was a breakthrough of sorts.
But the ancient model of medicine, however useful, it may have seemed, in some cases is not how the human body works. As my professor used to say about economic models; Most models are false, but some of them can be quite useful. Keep producing these videos. God knows India and Indians sure need them, as there is a resurgence in aggressive pooh poohing of modern medicine by the powers that be in India.
Just a few observations and thoughts.
1. The principal problem with Ayurveda is its emphasis on sticking to the recipes in the text and its resistance to critically examining the recipes in light of modern scientific practices. That's where Ayurveda makes a stark departure from the scientific realm.
2. Indians seek solace and pride in a few surgical innovations. However, surgical innovations were happening in all of the ancient world. However, back in the day, surgery was not a part of the discipline of "medicine" or "the scientific methods." Most surgical procedures were developed and performed by tradesmen.
3. Ayurveda can only introduce active agents to scientific medicine, which the latter can test, verify, and turn into a commercial product. In that way, Ayurveda, just like other traditional medicines, acts as an introducer. This ties in with the credibility of the observation-led approach of Ayurveda. But it's not just Ayurveda. In fact, scientific medicine emerged as an observation-based (empirical) discipline. It's only after the development of molecular and nano techniques that medicine moved from empirical to "evidence-based medicine."
4. To repurpose the above point, any "effective" traditional medicine approach will need to be vetted and approved by the scientific method before it can be commercially used.
5. I wouldn't recommend trying Ayurveda for chronic diseases because they will be administered by Ayurvedic practitioners who haven't been schooled on the scientific method. So while in principle, Ayurveda could have a few odds in its favor, its non-scientific approach coupled with its limitations as an introducer will offset the "proposed" benefits.
Hey Ayurveda helps in clearing of chronic diabetes like Diabetes and Cancer which even allopathic cannot help I curing . Ik people getting cures at stage 4
@@meghamurali3631 thank you for your kind contribution.
Have you seen the syllabus of BAMS and MD/MS of ayurveda. Please do if you have not. Ayurvedic doctors are exhaustively trained in modern medicine both theory and practice. Don't consider the vaidyas as ayurvedic practitioners. Doctors are trained really well. Numerous researched are being conducted from a modern scientific perspectives in institutes like AIIA ,NIA,BHU,SDM etc even international journal like elseiver and even john hopkins have articles based on ayurvedic drugs. They are scientifically proven to be efficacious and nontoxic in its proper dosage. Biotechnological research are also being conducted in phenotypes based on ayurvedic principles and have been proved time again. Just look for these articles in pubmed and ncbri
@@shreerammarch there are courses in astrology and vastu shastra. That doesn't make them legit. Having an "credentialed" program is not a proof of scientific credibility.
@saurabh malkar have a look at the syllabus and reply
Hii, I am a MD Doctor in Ayurveda.
After understanding what u really are trying to say in the video, I am happy atleast you are accepting the results of these medicines.
Now my question to you is, if the Fundamental Model of Ayurveda, the Basic Principles of Ayurveda which include Tridoshas, SaptaDhatu, Pancha-Bhutas and many other such concepts, are wrong according to you..than on what basis really did Acharyas plan the treatment principles of certain disease and how according to you the medicines are working and show results?!
We have concept of Rasa, Veerya, Guna, Vipaka, Prabhava a five fold system by which we understand how the drug works in human body in Ayurveda! Do you have any knowledge about that?
Modern Allopathic Science and Ayurveda are two very different system of health sciences and one should try to understand it differently and not mix them and try to compare entities of one to other.
Another very basic point u have mistaken, The three main Ayurvedic texts you mentioned are Charaka Sushruta and WAGBHATT AND NOT BHELA.
You don't even know what three main texts are in which whole basics are covered..and yet you are commenting on Ayurveda and its principles!! Please study properly and In depth before disrespecting and tagging something as Fake or Pseudo on such social platforms .
>On what basis did they come up with the Three Doshas etc.Doesn't matter.There's no tangible/experimental proof for it.
@@truePac47 You're just ready to believe in something you can't see.
>And there is no such thing as God.God is just a bloody joke nothing else.It's only a word.
People like you will even take Ayurvedic products like Panchgavya just because it is written in some random scripture.
Hi Pranav, hope I spell right, in the search of Vedic Maths, I tuned your channel. Seeing your research skills made me amazed. To comprehend your videos first I have to unlearn. Such a content deserve millions of views and subscribers also the cross studies. Wish you success, keep working hard for audience like us. I must not say watch infact l will study your videos. Hope to see you celebrating million subscriber soon.
This comment literally made my day! Thanks for all the kind words :) Please share the video so it reaches a wider audience :)
@@scienceisdope Pranav I am in the middle of a project, let me finish it, I would love to study your videos, will cross check it and then I will promote it with best of my efforts. Your hard efforts will be paid soon, your content will going to be viral soon........ only good things take time. Best of luck luck bhaai.
Again, you created a very informative clip. Science is never a matter of nationality or cultural background. It is completely objective and can do without these childish things. If I misuse the work of great scientists and medicals to exalt myself because I come from the same cultural circle, then in reality I am just totally small and insignificant because I have never made a contribution to the big picture in science but wasted my time with childish thoughts. I'm just a marginal figure who misuses science but doesn't understand it. All the best from Vienna. :o). If
Thanks a lot bro! Agreed :) Please share if you enjoyed it :)
th-cam.com/video/K-mgmIjaRlY/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TEDxTalks watch this and you will understand what is Ayurved. Watch BM Hegde and then you can judge.
For a sec, I was happy for you that you got a sponsor. XD
Hi Pranav it is a good video to understand medical/clinical models and effectiveness of medicine. Also well said that we need to research more and extract the core element of ayurvedic medicines and use them with modern medicine.
One thing though that I feel you left out is ayurvedic practitioners known as "naadi vaidya". They are the people who just hold your hand at a particular place and tell all your ailments. And this is not hearsay, because I have myself visited one such ayurvedic doctor with my family and friends and he just don't ask what ailments are you suffering from, but tells you with 100% accuracy. Please explain about that as well.
I saw this video to check whether I should take Ayurvedic medicine for minor digestion problems!! The problem is mostly chronic and does not require immediate attention.. I have had a chekup from a doctor who has degrees in both Medical science and Ayurveda !! The medicine advised is not a heavy drug.. but commonly available simple medicine !! I can't research on the net because of lack of time and energy to sort out all the bs there!! Also the doctor is very trusted, reknowned and awarded !! So I am off to the shop!!
Wow!, you've touched a really nice topic & expressed it in a great manner.
Pranav, I would like to suggest you to add subtitles in such videos, as it develops a better understanding for the viewers.
this truly misleading every one there is many things he did not say. he don't know any thing abt ayurveda. he is mis guiding everyone. keeping incomplete information he is confedent abt that.
idk y he is doing this
ayurveda needs a tremendous amount of research , for which a tremendous amount of money , time , trained technical expertise and an unbiased scientific evidence based mindset are needed so that we dont just halt at testing cow urine . Problem with us and our culture is that whatever good came out of us was picked off by outsiders because they were intelligent enough to spot understand and lift it off while we were busy somewhere else , our attention to such things has always been minimal , even today we have the capacity to produce many intelligent minds but to harness it , the attitude is minimal
true Ayurveda needs more research where modern medicine has just refused to investigate... there are some herbs which are known to work 100% such as ashwagandha, shilajit, brahmi, tulsi... also remember most documents are missing in Ayurveda
18:45 Interesting fact : In Sri Varamoortheshwar temple, Tamilnadu ; it said that the stages of foetus development are carved. (I don't know how true this is).
That’s my state man, and in the temple itself the scripts mentioned those are sculpted on basis of miscarriage and stillborn child
Also Ayurveda is not practised in south India , in ancient times they used siddha medicine and I support modern medicine and those who practice siddha also promotes it,
Until 1950 life expectancy in India is 30 years. Today it's 70 years, because of increase in hospitals and modern medicine.
In USA and Japan it's almost 80 years.
Well what was the life expectancy and literacy when British left?
@@jatin9070
1950 is when British left.
Census calculations will be made available every 10 years.
@@TarunKanthK
Life expectancy model is false
@@KumarK-cn1sj How and why ?
great work, for a simple mind to understand, though at times it goes above my head. wish you have millions of subscribers...
Thanks bro :) Please share. That's what really helps
th-cam.com/video/K-mgmIjaRlY/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TEDxTalks watch this and you will understand what is Ayurved. Watch BM Hegde and then you can judge .
Glad I stumbled upon this! Such mature and well researched story telling
Thanks Pranav for running this channel science is dope....
I have been watching western similar channel but no one was focusing on the Indian psudo science.....
And you must always expose psudo science of sadguru ..... Because I was always wondering how sadguru is doing all this but now I understood from your channel.....
One addendum for immunity boosters...
The common belief that it's always better to boost your immunity is flat out wrong.
In fact, some diseases are problematic because of a hyperactive immunity system.
Simplistically, your immune system works by attacking threats within your body. If that's just indiscriminately boosted, that means it's going to go all out even for benign substances it may misidentify as threats.
So... yes, the immunity boosters don't work... and it's actually a good thing that they don't.
Auto-immune diseases occur due to hyper sanitized living conditions and not due to overly strong immune systems. Proof of this is that occurrence of auto immune diseases are much much more prevalent in the west compared to say India.
I do not like the concept of your video but as a person open to new ideas, you changed my perspective and it was enough to make me press that red button
Would definitely share your content
Congratulations and best wishes
Thanks a lot for disagreeing with me politely :) And thanks even more for sharing :)
@@scienceisdope actually I don't even disagree with you it's just that it will take some time to soak in the truth
Ayurveda has so many things that work well (due to magic or trial n error) that it's difficult to say that it is just multiple coincidences summing up to give something so useful (just like life on earth, way too many coincidences happened for life to exist but when we see how big the universe is and how long it has existed for, it's a bit obvious that life had to happen somewhere at sometime)
@@nityarawat7901 I see your perspective. The process of trial and error can often lead to mistakes( because of cognitive biases like confirmation bias). But Ayurveda is not at fault for not knowing this. Humans only realised this some 200 years back.
However now that we know these things, Ayurveda can definitely improve it's methods and I can see it being very useful.
@@scienceisdope trail and error can lead to mistakes but Ayurveda herbs from my perspective is taken from adivasis because they were only people who knew the jungle in detail.
Hey man! I love the video, primarily because of the discussion on scientific method. I have just one question.
I thought maybe our translation is a little off. Is it possible that Ayurveda is not calling five elements the way Aristotle said? I have an alternate understanding. Ayurveda talks about three states of matter in the body, along with reaction driving force and empty space or vacuum (which even Newton had mistaken to be filled with Ether).
Let me know where this analogy breaks.
(Not trying to undermine Newton. Just pointing out an honest mistake.)
But it is still an inaccurate picture of human physiology, isn’t it? Yes, there are three states of matter, and technically the human body contains substances in all three forms, but it doesn’t explain how the human body works (or doesn’t work).
@@praveen25 It must not be explaining the whole picture, and I am no supporter of Ayurveda. But that makes it incomplete, not inaccurate.
I am a strong supporter of the logical flow of arguments. This is the only reason I am answering/commenting here. I felt Pranav's video was short on research and long on claims here, which is opposite to what he claims and generally does.
@@praveen25 but it still explains in which matter(the muscle, the blood or the breath) is having the problem in it.
I'm not saying that ayurveda Is superior. Modern science is still one step further. But ayurveda doesn't give you a unhealthy lifestyle or side effect.
Ayurveda(indian medicine)is based on experience of centuries Whereas western medicine is experiment/evidence based..
It's upto u to use experienced medicine or evidence based medicine.....
“Relatively easy” was a great pun👍
Just one question: can you smoke the boosteherb, will it be effective in giving immunity, or you have to eat only?
You can even take it a*ally. It will still be equally effective
@@scienceisdope 🤣😂🤣🤣lol
@@scienceisdope bro u need to behave
Don’t show ur uncivilised behaviour
@no as ur Ayurveda
@no and u too
This video of yours is one example of Western Universalism of their medicine. And their way of Science.
Great video. 👌
I'm very happy to find this channel. You're doing a really good job
Thank you :) Please share the video so that it reaches more people :)
Sir before 7 year ago I was a patient of sevire migraine.i have take modern medicine almost 2 year and take almost all pathy treatments .after that i want to a ayurvedic doctor and take ayurvedic medicine for only 15 days
And i have a great relif in my headache
Now i am very heathy and take only ayurvedic medicine
I don't know what the science behind it but it works more effective
Placebo
@@kavish4331
Allopathic chemical medicines are also placebo .
You are right! To prevent something before it is caused or not a severe disease Ayurveda can be used. For an acute, emergency or severe disease allopathy should be the choice of treatment! 😊
Firstly it's modern medicine.
Secondly Ayurveda/Homeopathy is only helpful for self curing conditions like cold,cough,swellings etc.
Not trying to be rude.
@@LightYagami-sj2ls Rude? You are not. My comment is my way of thinking and understanding, each one has own. I am allopathic Doctor by the way, Degree: MD Medicine!
@@LightYagami-sj2ls
People use Ayurvedic medicine for chronic diseases that allopathic chemical medicines can’t cure like epilepsy , paralysis and even for jaundice but not for cold , coughs and welling etc.
Important to note: Ayurveda never explains why things are the way they are. It always describes how things are in an inutitive way. It denotes the tendencies of things without taking to much interest into any details. Like Vata Dosha is made of "air" and everything that has to do with air will increase Vata Dosha.
Great research a great neutral presentation of the facts. I look forward to your future and Past uploades.
Thanks a lot😊 please do share any video you enjoyed so it reaches more people
3:54 yes actually coz ayu means life and veda means how to gain ___ so actually Ayurveda is not a medicine system but a dictionary full of ways to prevent diseases
have you ever got an Ayurvedic treatment. Please don't try to roast Ayurveda
@koro sensei
As far as I know old Ayurveda was not only for the body but also for the spirit (prana) so some things won’t work on the body because the intention is to repair your spiritual energy.
@koro sensei
Spirits absolutely exists, see that’s what you guys are doing, you guys try to prove the non material world with material things like microscopes, that’s not how it works, science (material science) fails here. But both of them are connected and the yogis found out how they could cooperate for good consequences.
@koro sensei
Ayurveda (the one we have today) has many benefits actually, things like garlic and turmeric are good for our body, i don’t know if the Ayurveda today can cure diseases such as cancer. But it has many benefits.
Love the rational outlook you have, great to see an Indian science content creator. Keep it up bro ❤️ Subscribed
Thanks a lot :) please do share so that more people see
The conclusion part was the best. Real respect for you sir. Well explained and very good and clear explanation.
Bro just one question . As you said that these modern medicines models are improved overtime . Then why these medicines are having so many side effects. Like my mom is taking bp pills and there are times that she has to increase the doses because as said by doctors. Overtime it decreases the sensitivity and she has to take it more to back that amount of effectiveness.
If the model is improving for so long should not it be improved until now.
It can be explained...see bp pills work on different modalities in our body for controlling blood pressure...
They work on kidney and on our blood vessels but medicine dosage are increased whenever you have poor control on bp...
Mostly in our household we dont have a check on bp and along with that we need some lifestyle modification such as brisk exercise and weight reduction salt restrictions but it is tough for ages above 45 or 50 plus...
And secondly modern drugs are designed on the basis of receptor function so body receptors too adapt themselves either reduce their number or vanish themselves on continuous stimulation.
For you mumma i would say ask her about daily headache.. heavy headedness..swelling of foot.. sweating and short temper mood can be signs of daily raised bp.
And other reason is that these are lifestyle disorder...you have to adapt a new diet plan some calorie cut and physical activities(lifestyle modification) for medicine to have optimised control,but in india our diet is carbs based and it is hard to count calories and eat especially in that age.
Happens in my home too,but as a doc i can see it why?
And dont skip bp meds...it is fatal because assume ur heart as a motor and not taking bp meds will make pipes(arteries) more thin and u know when motor forces water in thin pipes...either pipe bursts or motor shuts down.
Excellent video Pranav. Your presentation is excellent. Ayurveda and science was always a mystery for me . Something that doesn't support scientific method must be questioned and debunked.
And for your information, ayurveda treats every patients in unique way according to their response for treatment!! Not based on statistics only!!
@Dhruva Punde Yes i agree with you...but I have seen some ayurveda specialists diagnose patients according to their body types ( I think they call these as vata, pitta and kapha may be.. I don't know much about these, sorry!) And they cure so many type of chronic diseases in this type of diagnosis only!...so in my opinion there must be some reason behind it!! But this tridosha model worked for so many people...even i experienced it!
@Dhruva Punde Yes....I got it...thank you for sharing information.... I'm just new to science, so had little bit confusions!!
You are very open minded bro👍👍Keep up the good work.
Thanks man :)
If they are doing reverse pharmacology and find out the active ingredient, it's just modern medicine no need to call it any other name, i mean if proper scientific research is done in all alternative systems of medicine it automatically becomes modern medicine
really great video man, I am going back to watch all your videos and so far I am loving it.
Ayurveda is a way of living .
This guy don't know anything
jokes 🤣
Need more of this !!!
Ayruvedic doctor mostly has a BAMS degree which has/had both contents of modern and ayurveda sciences , before few years they could perform general surgical operations, but a law changed it And limited it to only pg's doing so.
Also bams where most of ayurvedic doctors lie is usually grouped together (I.e. in Ayush) with homeopathy and others which are highly ineffective and unscientific
Where a bams doctor would recommend few lifestyle changes and little Medicine
A corrupt doctor would put him on excessive medications to get perks form Medicine companies ( there are good doctors too which don't do such things )
This makes Indian people fear from modern Medicine.
I think there should be a balance between those using ayurvedic where ever it is effective and modern Medicine where it fails.
Total lie that they have same subjects only the pre clinical subjects are same not all
Tf you mean other systems are ineffective when unani and ayurveda system of medicine at there core are the same
i don't know if you will notice this comment.. but as an atheist, critical thinker and an ayurvedic consultant, i request you to have me in a discussion that will clear some of the confusion you have regarding five element theory and tridosha theory used in ayurveda
Yeah sure I'd love to talk to you! Please email me at scienceisdope17@gmail.com and we can take it from there!
@@scienceisdope thanks for replying... i will surely write to you
Ayurveda says 5 basic elements make up human body . But never says universe was made of 5 basic elements which Aristotle claims . You contradicted your own statement
Ayurveda may not be a modern science, but definitely it works very well if we use it in proper way
May be emergency immediate cure as anti virals and anti bacterials are not there in ayurveda but definitely in noncommercial diseases like modern diseases
Ayurveda works wonderful
In modern medicine all lifestyle diseases are not curable we have to use medicine for lifelong
But ayurveda helps in this better than modern medicine,
I used to have skin diseases, severe skin diseases like hypoderma( hyper skin inflammation) i have consulted many doctors and they worked temporarily after sometime again same situation
And few medicines given me too much side effects,
But after following ayurvedic recommendations, i got permanent relief
But it's very complicated process, we have to change all our food habits and lifestyle
Cold and hot water should not drink
Eating food from refrigerator is not allowed
Have to sleep early and wake up early and doing yoga, pranayam, meditation in specific way
For skin problem i was recommended to not eat spicy and fried foods,
There are many many many recommendations, in every food types there recommendations which I have to avoid and which I have to consume
So i followed everything because it was my last option,
Slowly day by day reduced and after 3 months i clearly came out from that disease
Actually my immunity was compromised because of unhealthy lifestyle,
So even now if i follow wrong lifestyle definitely i will again get same issue
So ayurveda is not about medicine but a right lifestyle with right habits
What to eat and when to eat and how to eat,
We can take useful practices from every practice
For communicable diseases i go to modern hospital but for lifestyle diseases which are in the top of the list of popular disease in modern world, i approach to ayurveda
For emergency we have to go to hospital, so use it
But today's problems are lifestyle diseases,
Definitely ayurveda can prevent almost many lifestyle diseases
For prevention follow ayurveda,
For emergency follow allopathy
Feedback- Bro, please don't make bigger videos, you can divide it into 2 episodes.
Because, the audience of this channel are legends, so it's difficult to spend that much amount of time for a single video in a day. We are busy guys, so we can't afford that time bro, I hope you understand.
Bro, aren't the timestamps I put in the video helpful? Sometimes a topic deserves a longer video so I have to. But I always make sure my audience can skip to the required section
@@scienceisdope but bro, I want this channel to Grow. People don't click on video usually if the video is long. This reduces the click through rate.
Also longer video reduces the Audience retention. So better create episodes so that new people will subscribe to wait for the next parts. I hope you are getting me. You are a great TH-camr. You atleast deserve 100k+ subscribers
Thanks a lot bro... I'll surely make videos shorter wherever possible. But I'm not sure longer videos reduce click through rates. Been doing some research that shows otherwise.
@@scienceisdope Yes bro, people also look the time duration along with the thumbnail. If they find duration more than 10-15 minutes then they usually skip clicking on the video and that's how your impression click through rate will reduce. So TH-cam's algorithm will suggest that video lesser.
@@scienceisdope exactly, you should do multiple parts of a video
Dear brother, it seems that you have not gone through detailed study about Ayurveda.
Great work as always.....Showing both the sides without bias, you are the true science weeb that we all need
Haha Science Weeb... I like that name. Thanks man :) Be sure to share the video so it reaches more people :)
@@scienceisdope give me your number i want ask u some question about Ayurveda and alopathy
Though you are 100% reasonable throughout this video, but I think you missed out on the cons of modern medical procedures which I would like to point out.
Why is it that our modern scientific methodology has to bash every traditional procedures on the first hand and if they find their procedure/treatment harmful then only they seek help from various traditional sources, why can't they open mindedly accept the fact, that, OK this has a process of curing X for a thousand years, let me find it's efficacy scientifically with my process. Wouldn't that seem efficient ?
Hasn't there been many modern drugs lately(scientifically approved) which cause more harm than cure ?
Is ayurveda just about medicine, don't you think you missed somethings there too.
Nevertheless, can't say u missed these unwittingly or deliberately, but I applause your efforts and research for the rest of what u have done.
It is indeed very important not to hold too much pride in our heads and question everything reasonably.😊
1. Isn't it the responsibility of those practicing traditional med to prove the efficacy of their drugs via trials etc.?
Also how much money is anybody willing to invest in the process .
2. If there's a medicine in modern med that causes more harm than good then they are taken off of the market. That's why there are clinical trials and a concept of therapeutic window in pharmacodynamics.
3 . Modern med is not just about drugs and chemicals. It also propagates the idea of basic lifestyle modifications to prevent diseases but today's bad diet and sedentary life causes more harm than good .
@@DrSujoy 2. ADHD drugs aren't off the market.
They literally got meth in them.
Burden falls on ayurvedic docs to prove through clinical trails , research. Just like in cout , plaintiff has burden to prove allegations against defendant are true.
As u hav cited, many clinical trials are conducted on aswaghanda n turmeric by modern medicine.
Example Artsimin based drugs are widely used against malaria. Any drug which is backed by clinical trails , is automatically accepted in modern medicine .
I hav seen ayurvedic practioners prescribing allopathic medicines over ayurvedic medicines .
There is lack of regulation of ayurvedic medicines , leading to heavy metal content in them .
@@DrSujoy
Patients who use Ayurvedic medicines will find out its efficacy but why should already established medicine prove its efficacy to the lovers of allopathic chemical medicines ?
I always wanted to research about this topic of Ayurveda giving good results but having inaccurate explaination but never got around to actually doing it. thanks for the video, must have taken a lot of time to research.
Haha it did! Do remember to share so it reaches more people!
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Pranav you must come up with hindi translation .... It's very important for India
As u mention at 20:15 , tried ayurvedic medicine for life threatening acidity as a last resort, after trying every possible antacid & probiotic from my doctor. I am grateful i survived because of it. Yeah, I still don't know the medical model of how/why it worked ( neither does my allopathic doctor : but he agrees that there are unknown things like this where ayurveda shows surprising effectiveness. So, it should exist always as an alternative even if it cant be explained by the chemical model).
"life threatening acidity"? Acidity can be life threatening?
@@varunv2584 yes. if acidity is not stopped at a certain level, it starts burning away the stomach linings & can cause internal injuries, internal bleeding etc.
I just came from Ayurvedic workshop. I can't help, but suspect there is a lot of placebo and self -fulfilling prohecies involved.
What i appreciate about it might be the thought, that not all people are the same and they need different exercise, meditatiom, they have different emotional needs.
Btw, i can't help but think, that not eating raw vegetables might be better in hot and humid climates, because cooking kills bacteria. There is ecoli, etc.
What about the research that shows that a certain percentage of Ayurvedic medicine has heavy metals such as lead, mercury, and arsenic? Is that not also a risk of taking Ayurvedic medicine?
Yes I did bring up that research at 14:39. But decided not to dwell on it because it's a problem with regulation and not necessarily a problem with Ayurveda. And also because it's a low hanging fruit that easily (and unfairly imo) biases someone against Ayurveda
Akul I have been asthmatic took lot of steroids lost immunity. But by satvik food, life style , spirituality ,natural herbs , gooseberry my immunity shot up I switched to yogavana hills ayurvedic treatment and their natural tips like using morning saliva as medicine it works sometimes but proper diet and lifestyle is must for anything to work
those ingredients will be purified before using in medicine
there are procedures to purify Mercury and all other stuff
there is alot to explain
read rasaratna samuchayam
@@scienceisdope or u must have found something actually but decided to not include that because it counters your agenda right😏
@@sindhura1341
A lot of people have, buddy,
Steroids only lead to more steroids.
Clavam, Montena L and Butadene steroids become life.
When you start doing getting into Yoga and Ayurveda, you notice the change.
I have seen similar experience from many young people.
There might be some drawbacks to Ayurveda, but they aren't as significant to those tablets and Injections doctors(proponent of allopathy) load you with.
Newton's laws are right until relativity and quantum mechanics come into play . But for most practical engineering and technology Newton's laws does the job .
Kindly check out Dr BM Hegde's talks on Ayurveda. He has spoke about Germ Theory and your articulation is good but there are people far more educated than you are exporting Ayurvedic medicine abroad and are using Ayurvedic methods . There are talks in the UK to establish Ayurvedic hospitals and Germany too. So basically, your whole videos have less facts and seem to be more agenda driven.
Spoken*
Best sponsership . I bet if he really made such a product , many of us bought it instantly .
I am a Ayurvedic Intern , You Don't have any idea what are you talking about. Just Trying to defame our culture in every way . And bro Ayurveda Simply Means The Knowledge of Life.
Please explain yourself or it is not helpful just to type this
How the hell is Ayurveda a part of our culture?Please don't defame India by saying so.
@@LightYagami-sj2ls ayurveda is part of ancient Indian culture it doesn't defame India but show its rich knowledge about health in ancient times
@@nikhilhadbe271 Yeah right.An untested system of medicine with no proven efficacy shows our "rich knowledge."
@@LightYagami-sj2ls yes for it time it was one of the best way
loved the video , science is not western, its global , lets use this amazing tool
Beautifully explained !!!👍
I had a ad for taro cards named "health with divine light" in this video.
Irony at its finest
Comparing taro card to ayurveda. Abeeee chutiyeeeee😂🤡
If you know anyone one of them tabhi baat kario uddiyan bandha moolbandha kundalini jagaran recharge kumbhaka. Abeeeee chutiyeeeee tujhy lund ka kuch ni pata aur ise b ni jiski video dekhra hai tu. Aur naam dekho wanna be ka can dex matlab koi logic hai🤡