What is God's Judgment? | Episode 412 | Closer To Truth
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- Every religion thunders its day of reckoning, and to examine God's judgment is to probe God's character and perhaps assess God's existence. If God does not exist, God's judgment may expose it. If God does exist, and assuming God is merciful as well as just, maybe we've missed the meaning of God's Judgment. Featuring interviews with Richard Swinburne, John Polkinghorne, Seyyed Nasr, Varadaraja Raman, Venerable Dr. Yifa, and Robert Russell.
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#Afterlife #Theology
Thank You Robert for bringing these different perspectives into one episode.
Just the fact that there are multitudes of religions should tell us something. If there is a god, that's on HIM.
Do you know the difference logically speeking?
God won't force anyone to believe anything, that's the point of free will you fool. You must be mistaking God for a cosmic puppet master that should force people to believe certain things in order for his existence to be true. That's not who God is. He gives you the free will to be a fool.
They are part of ONE truth. There is one God, one religion, one humanity!
@@twincitydezrayyou're certainly showing you have the free will to be a fool
@@ParallaxIssue
Yep I have the free will to be anything I want with circumstantial parameters considered, so do you
Judgement. We are sparks placed here for a brief moment to accumulate light and warmth (love)... so that we can become as bright of a star as we can be shining in heaven (joy, beauty and harmony).
Love (god) knows every star by name.
This is accomplished by appreciating this paradise planet lifeboat and the miraculous works of fine art called life that inhabit it.
If we extinguish our light and warmth (love) with ignorance (greed)...we become the darkness and emptiness that surrounds the stars.
Both here on this physical plane called Earth...like it is on the metaphysical plane we call heaven.
what does he call alpha cruxus?
Yet a star goes through a life cycle and eventually either burns out or implodes. I think this might tell us that both light and dark are equals in the scheme of things.
One of the best channels on you tube..RLK is fantastic
finally, thank you for presenting different views other than the Abrahamic. Wonderful.
Judgment is to face the reality of God's presence.
Like how they know everything about an afterlife that they have no idea is even real. So of course, it can be what ever you want it to be.
They have an idea.
@@BR-vd2ux
That doesn't add any credibility. Every theology has ideas.
@@thomasridley8675 yeah, but the ancient authors of scripture somehow knew that our world isn't fundamental and that it emerges from a fluid-like dynamic over which God hovers. The standard model has made it clear that our reality, including time and space, is not fundamental and that it emerges from four fluid like fields that vibrate.
@@williamesselman3102 Well, that is one possibility. But there are several competing ideas. None has reached the point of proving one is correct.
@@thomasridley8675 the Standard Model is pretty much the "Standard".
relaxing sounds from nature for you
8:09 that's why purgatory is so important in the Catholic tradition.
What you plant is what you reap !
I really liked the Hindi guy's submission.
We spend too much time asking questions about god and the hereafter. Most of them are unanswerable. I prefer to spend my days being the best human I can be and living where I am right now.
Imagine getting an Xmas gift you did not like or play with according to how the gifter intended, so they boil you alive for eternity 😮
RLK is one of my heroes. I love the explorer personality in him. This channel has to grow quickly.
I like him too but he can't let go of his ego and personal identity. It doesn't bring us any closer to "truth" if we get to pick and choose the kind of reality we want.
@@Snow-hd9cd He does specify in every episode that Closer to Truth is HIS journey to find out.
@@deviatefishy I understand that it just frustrates me how he has all the evidence in front of him yet still chooses to believe in an afterlife
@Snow • What evidence, I’m unaware of evidence that proves there is no afterlife, would you mind explaining what you mean?
@@SongWhisperer The most obvious reason is that for there to be an afterlife, consciousness would need to be something that is entirely separated from our physical body - which it is not. If you're uncomfortable with this feeling you should check this clip out th-cam.com/video/noz7wQndoFo/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MemeHub
My parish priest says that in the Old Testament God's judgement refers to our liberation.
Existence is one big question mark 🙌🏻
But a beautiful one...
You are aware. And you are aware that you are aware. That is your validation for your existence. Imho.
@Al Garnier then give a scientific explanation for why we exist. After all, didn't you make your profile one month ago so that you could tell everyone there is no God? Surely you are going to give me a plausible and easily understood explanation for a contingent universe and why we exist, or why anything at all exists. My eyeballs are ready, explain away.
@Al Garnier you started off your comment by gaslighting me. You lost before you even finish the rest of your comment, LOL. You don't work on me. You have a narcissistic personality disorder.
All you did was explain a process. You didn't tell me why or how.
Everything you just described emerged from four fundamental fields. Perturbations, vibrations, between these fields causes every less fundamental thing, time and space included, to emerge. Electrons emerge from these fields. Every particle of everything in the universe emerges from these fields. Everything you can see is not fundamental. These four fields are fundamental and are described as being fluid like. You have no explanation for why we exist or how we exist.
I do. In the beginning God hovered over the surface of the deep and from there all of creation emerged.
Judgement is not just after death. Every Karma we get back is a result of our past actions
This is why Jesus Christ said " you have to be Born again to see kingdom of heaven (God) and yes, in this lifetime.
Richard Swinburne and John Polkinghorne seem like very nice men. It is puzzling how they can speak with such certainty about the nature god and the afterlife, things about which they cannot possibly know. The same can be said of the others. It brings to mind the scene in Monty Python's Life of Brian. The scene with all the apocalyptic "prophets" prophesying about all things related to god. One of the men listening shouts...."he is making it up as he goes along." They are all making it up as they go along.
th-cam.com/video/3Eyx_DhepDg/w-d-xo.html
Oh, like math.
Kabbalah has that answer for this question, example a drug dealer will find comfort with drug dealers a musician will find comfort with other musicians a Doctor will find comfort with his Doctorate exetera a believer in God will find his comfort in God.
We are living in the now. Hell is our suffering of our bad intention in the now. Judgment day is what we impose on ourselves as consequence of our choices and actions.
I agree that almost all our suffering is the attachment to our thoughts and the illusion of the sense of self.
Exactly, and that is hell by all definitions.
The unknown, and the Mystical beyond. The greatest mystery known to man
A lot of men, are arrogant enough
To believe they "Know" and that there is no mystery only what they can conceive.
Praise Jesus Christ
Praise Allah
@@jivaji2028 The one who calls himself the great deceiver? NO THANKS. Jesus Christ is God. Jesus Christ is Lord. He died for you sins. Repent and turn away from your false God.
@@jayrodriguez84
A God that prays to himself and gets killed on a cross by savage humans? That cannot be God by definition😉
@@jivaji2028 That was the plan. Without him dying on the cross there is no atonement for sins. BUT HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD, ABOLISHING DEATH. Praise the Lord Jesus Christ.
@@jayrodriguez84 God is above that, God getting killed by savages and humiliated just dosnt make sense...also trinity concept is philosophically problematic and contradictory. God can only be one without divisions, otherwise he would be contingent on his parts and be similar like creation ie dependent and not necessary being which is independent of everything.
Could be that after death, God look at everything one has done and was, eternally sustain what was good (mercy) and phase out what was bad (judgement) for everyone. During lifetime the task of making things good or bad is still in the hands of individuals and communities.
you are just parroting what was said in the video.
Notice how he didn't answer the question of an infinite punishment for a finite offense??? Perfectly honest behavior that one comes to expect from a believer
Indeed.And I fail to understand why such belief includes the worship of this god that created humanity as some kind of personal plaything; "Give them life, give them the choice to do as they wish with it.....should be fun to sit back, watch and judge accordingly".
I don't thinks it's a competition between believers & non believers.
Using one to contrast the other is a fruitless endeavor and pointless activity.
@@MrBoybergs What's the alternative?
Not refuting or looking to be argumentative, I have no dog in this fight.
I'm just curious as to what your alternative form of existing would be.
If you could script existence and purpose, what would it look like?
I don't fear the unknown I love the unknown - neil degrasse tyson
IMO Bob asked the key question: "What makes me, "me""? If we do continue, or are reborn, what are the aspects of you that persist after death?
Meaning in hindu... Hitler or Stalin will not be published?
Who or how determines good or bad?
When you open the door at death you will surely know
@@kootdirker2448 It's a bit late by then :)
That question, why finite sin will have infinite punishment?
Accirding to Islam and Christianity, I will be burned for ever without any chance of forgiveness.
As it happens, my funeral plan also includes being burned, but only for 20 minutes.
I don't expect to feel the flames as my nervous system will not be working.
And as my brain will not be working, I will not be conscious.
There have been studies that indicate that people who believe in Heaven, but not in Hell, don't seem to improve their behavior in response. The same studies indicate that those who believe in both, do seem to improve their behavior in response.
What matters it…? believe that too.
The answer only God can tell us. Good and bad is not even defined in the universe, only by humans, a minor species, which, so far as we know, are only present in one part of the universe and in a small fractions of its existence. We overestimate our role, at the same time we destroy what has been achieved.
Same reason we used to think we lived on a flat earth because we were created in God's image
That in case, its the foundation of a good judgment
Perhaps, after we die, we enter a different dimension.
God is judging his own creation which is based on his own Perfect Plan.
I can give you answer's for everything.
Deep inside every human being that has ever lived is a sense of judgment every time we do something wrong. Doesn’t matter if you’re religious or not. I think god put that in us. I think it’s a way for god to let us know that you’re not just a body of meat but that you have soul. We’re a fresh creation that are here to learn how to love. True love takes away all fear.. to anyone who’s a parent would you not give up your life for your children? I know I would.. that’s how powerful love is. Our purpose in this world is simply that.. I think love is essential for the next life.
God is infinite and perfect.. I believe that along the line in our journey with god. He will give us the power to create our own world .. and the ability to create life. I don’t think this current universe has the capacity to support the things that we will be able to do and create. I think it’s the reason for the afterlife.
Emotions are the leading cause for war, murder, religion and many more don't just look at the good stuffs see around you count how many good people you know of, i know none all sinners murders and rapist where the good people went, looks like heaven is empty
You should visit the intelligent design folks of discovery institute, very interesting stuff there: Stephen Meyer, Paul Nelson, Michael Behe.
And then, after you've visited religious apologetics masquerading as science you should visit actual science: actual scientists.
@@librulcunspirisy that's just your bias
@@librulcunspirisy explain the existence of bacterial flagellum
he has videos on intelligent design.
They are clowns! The only worth interviewing theists are philosophers like Richard Swinburne and a few others.
For every evil action there is an equal and opposite evil reaction.
I believe in Good Karma !
L😂l! How do you know that?
there is no bad karma?
The judgment of God has been majorly misunderstood.
So the concept of hell and heaven, and so eternity.
Metaphysician philosopher
Most choose the religion of their family or culture. Some are able to unshackle the chains of religion. Without early childhood brainwashing, would you choose the religion with the best heaven or to avoid the worst hell. I have chosen none of the above. Peace.
There is no basis for asking this sort of question. We have no evidence that there is a God who interacts with the world or takes a personal interest in humanity.
6:34... Then what of heaven, a place in which no evil, no wrong choices can exist, a place where the freedom to object, think, or go against the divine will are not even possibilities, surely then there can be no free will in heaven.
It must then be a place where we are compelled and if this is so and it is the ultimate desire and destination for those created by God, then why not create such a heavenly world straight off and do away with this world of struggle, suffering and torment..?
The God of Abraham has you as a plaything and enjoys making you suffer so that he can play as your deliverer and make you worship him...
In our world good and evil people are intermingled. The final judgement will provide for a categorizing of people according to their degree of righteousness, more in particular with a SEPARATION of those categories. In particular, this means that a category formed by ONLY evil people will exist. If you happen to live among such a kind of people forever, you probably are already living in hell, you don't need further punishment tools. Thus, judgement probably consists just in a CATEGORIZATION of people, three categories ?
I completly agree, as John hick put it :"I don't believe one is good enough to go to heaven at the time of death, or evil enough to go to hell.
The Christian Bible tells of a ‘Judgement Day’ which was not properly addressed in this episode. We are told that when the Messiah returns that all the dead people who have ever lived will be resurrected & on Judgement Day ‘God will divide the sheep from the goats’ & they will be sent to Heaven or Hell, accordingly etc. This episode
talked of judgement as and when we each die. It can’t be both. They contradict. If there’s to be a final Day of Judgement then where have all the centuries of dead people been in the meantime?
These experts that get interviewed do a lot of waffling & mostly skirt round the question without properly answering.
I do love the Buddhist nun !
I laugh in the face of all of these interviewees who claim to know what happens after we die ---> HA HA! The only thing they know is what is contained in books written by other humans many moons ago. Big deal.
I am crying every baby being aborted, i feel their agonies. I embrace the souls of the aborted babies and i sing lullaby to them and cradle them in my loving heart. The aborted babies are telling me to punish the people collaborating the murder of billions of babies, and i say to these aborted babies yes my Holy Innocent Angels, i say i Am God and vengeance is mine
We need to stop seeking answers from other humans. Listen to your soul. We know when we do bad things. We know what’s sinful behavior. When we die, we will become our worst judge. We will condemn ourselves.
How come you've changed the tagline from "Cosmos. Consciousness. Meaning." to "Cosmos. Consciousness. God."?
To trigger
@@williamesselman3102 To trigger a question?
@@pedterson yep
God knows humans so well, he knows what we are about or will behave. So why judgement?
God does not judge us at all. Those who think He does, do not know him...
You ever consider you're not gonna go to an afterlife? Do you remember God before you were born?
@@rohinpatel1 No, but as far as I know I have always lived ;-) . I do remember parts of a previous life. And I have read many NDE's, so I know God and the afterlife exist...
@@RichardvanBemmelen the logical problem of evil makes your statement seem absurd is all I can say. All the NDE's or visions of an afterlife all seem to be built by men. It's what we scientists call a confabulation sort of like a dream but it is nature's way of finding comfort in death just like sleep. Faith is the belief in something without evidence by all means do so but personally I don't agree because I'm not an idiot.
@@rohinpatel1 Most ppl not believing in NDE's cling to the scientific 'belief' that it cannot be so. So they do not even consider looking at the evidence. Like you said 'I'm not an idiot'. How many NDE's have you really studied? I guess none, since you will not even go there...The 'scientific' idea that consciousness is located in the brain is soon to be outdated. th-cam.com/video/DXFUUu_KvdM/w-d-xo.html&start_radio=1&fbclid=IwAR0g2FKIlAqjh-9vbhlkU6OOjMqmCJ4smb8hbTQjy9IWyGKsng77q9fhYz8
I am a logic and math teacher, I have a question for you. Why aren't many people looking for truth?
Because most people are followers either by choice or persuaded subjectively and don't bother to question their beliefs on a fundamental level.
Your answer is circular to my question and in fact it's not an answer.
@@mu.makbarzadeh2831 well you're wrong then because many people do try to search for truth.
@math: what makes you think they aren't?
@@cosmikrelic4815
When they themselves say that they aren't.
Karma. Yes.
To think God wouldn't punish a soul for eternity over such a short lifespans decisions blows my mind. I mean here's my line of thinkin' . . . All of mankind are being punished for what 1 man an woman did way back when. Punishment for something we didn't have any part in. . . See my line of thinking? ? ?
Richard Swinburne looks similar to John Nash
Nash was a brilliant innovator. Swinburne is an apologetic hack. Even Ed Feser denigrates him. And Feser's near the bottom of the barrel.
Any one, said god judge is obvious they don’t know what is god, god isn’t human. In this life and the next one stay in the light.
Possible that humanity as a whole is under judgement, either all going to heaven or all going to hell in handbasket.
Interesting perspective
Only living being is curious to see what happens after death ..
I think the show will go on for the season 2... why would Heavens banish the highly entertaining Humans either to the left or to the right.
this video is already season 4.
JOHN in the church is 100% right. ,if you are a demon you deserve that which is daemonic, if you are a good person that is respectful of god then you are deserving of love and god.
“It’s usually wise when promulgating eternal laws to be clear about what you mean.”-Christopher Hitchens.
Richard should interview someone like Michael Voris from Church Militant. No, really. He’ll get complete sentences and a college graduate’s vocabulary. These interview subjects are intelligent, diplomatic, and decent people who are desperately trying to square the religions that were imprinted upon their defenseless child minds with their inclinations toward Reason and basic Fairness. They know the incalcuable immorality on display in eternal, final judgment, but they can’t let the whole premise go.
The great irony is that in modern times, the religious loons eschewed by everyone else, including the religious moderates on display, are the only ones being true to what their holy books say, as literally as they can interpret it, not trying to circumvent inconvenient ‘truths.’
Ad hominem.
We become whatever we do in this life... period. Secondly our thoughts precede our deeds... It is the Law of Requital or what we sow so shall we reap. Read the book the Life in the Hereafter... by G A Parwez.
All these people explaining after life
Never expereinced it
By what right, do people say that "you" know God better than anyone else or that "your" God is better than theirs or that "you" have access that I can’t claim to have, to know not just that there is a God, but that you know his mind and his will. It is an incredibly arrogant and immodest claim.
By the right that religion gave them
I think RLK is agnostic but border line atheist. Just an observation.
as he has said many times.
@@cosmikrelic4815
More power to him but his flaw is that he's opposed to supernatural intervention which is not a scientific argument, maybe God will have mercy on him and show it
@@twincitydezray he doesn't believe in a god, he'd like to. but god doesn't exist so no help there.
@@twincitydezray none of the arguments for god are scientific. they are inductive philosophical arguments. science requires evidence, there isn't any. arguments against god are scientific, there is no evidence.
If the cycle is true... why human are still bad?
To the many cycle, most human must be good, if not all. But still plenty of people is bad and going more bad.
Just imagine that you create a robot to perform a specific function and you prepare a manual to help guide those that interacts with that robot. But the people that interacts with the robot and the robot itself trash the manual. What would you think will happen? Both will remain clueless to the functionality, the potential and the red zones that will trigger dysfunction or cause destruction. Instead, I will suggest that the best thing is to find out what the manual states about the intent of its creator regarding its purpose, function, maintenance and its lifespan. Read the BIBLE.
try writing something that is coherent.
@@cosmikrelic4815 When God created humans, He gave us a manual; We call it the Bible. It is God breathed laws, instructions, commands and warnings to humans. Humans do not decide their purpose, God does. Humans must discover their purpose by reading the Scriptures.
You see were America is today? It is the result of man trying to play God. US today has a corrupt, demented President and a godless wicked, corrupt Vice President. You reap what you sow.
@@GloriousLily god didn't create humans and he didn't give us the bible. the bible was written by people. america is where it is today because of religious people influencing the government. religion is resonsible for most of the world's ills.
Then get your gods together to make up their minds what version of the bible is correct and what religion is the right one
All you fanatics must ask your gods to come down and fix their followers once and for all
@@kootdirker2448 if you are so bogged down concerning the version, you refer tp the Aramic or Greek Bible,
The entire Universe is observed, by practically all scientists, to be both structured and have meaning in that it follows precisely defined laws (i.e. has meaning). Laws, and nature, are not random or meaningless. And with these precise laws in nature, there is "purpose in the future", as observed by practically all scientists, in that there is cause (i.e. past, present) and effect (i.e. future). Is there any rational and reasonable scientist who would deny the existence of cause and effect?
In the end you'll judge yourself
He alone made judgement for than 10 billions people already dead as of today.
Even God could not create a world without sin..he is the origin of sin..what is he judging us for? He created us..all the sins made by humans is on God..instead of helping humanity fight injustice poverty n all sorts of crimes he is chilling in heaven judging humanity..thats sick
If god he should judge himself ad come from wherever to be judged by humans.its a rough one constituting a bench ad proper prosecutors. He if at all there should stop hiding
If we have ultimate freedom after death, then could we get thrown out of Heaven if we commit a bad act while in Heaven? Is that what life is? Did everyone alive today do something so bad that God threw us out of Heaven and is punishing us by making us live out a life on Earth? If that’s true that we ha e free will in the afterlife and that we can do something to get us thrown out of Heaven, could Earth be Hell?
Discussing if a certain human construct gives credence to another human construct is an amazing waste of time. But most of the videos on this channel go around this same dynamic.
Some thoughts: I assume Satan was created before the universe because he had already fallen when he tempted Adam and Eve in the garden, and if he was the highest of angels then at the time of his creation - Satan was God's greatest creation. Does it not make you curious that God's greatest creation Satan became an evil being so close to God and witnessing God's glory in 'person'? More than that, Satan thought that he could overthrow an infinitely powerful being. Is 'pride' sufficient in explaining this madness? Because that is what it is. To think you can overthrow a being outside time would take madness. And if Satan was mad, then God punishing him eternally would be wrong, wouldn't it? And even more than that, Satan managed to convince a good amount of angels to follow him. How could all of these beings so close to God want nothing to do with him? How could they all think they could defeat him? And if they knew they couldn't win but still fought against God, how much of a happy place could heaven have been? .. None of this makes sense unless.. God isn't who he purports to be. hmmm... Any thoughts?
Read the creation story of Sumer. This god of scripture sounds like enlil who hated mankind and the devil/snake sounds like enki who loved mankind and gave them knowledge.
Isn't that what happened in genesis
@@kootdirker2448 Also the tale of Prometheus comes to mind.
Great! Another Closer to Truth episode... about a supernatural beeing... again :-/
Which God? Zeus, Allah or Thor?
The one that all those names are grasping toward
He seems to have forgotten that God designed us with inclinations and many other features.
I sometimes desire chocolate, even though I know it will make me fat.
I didn't choose to have a desire for chocolate.
I didn't choose to have a bald head.
I am the Female God,the Goddess !
no you aren't.
Yes you are
You are the goddess of wisdom
i think God does not punish at all
Swinburne? LOL.
Very helpful.
Never abuse the word mercy and love, i am just, i am the final judge i never tolerate injustices !
God’s judgment, evaluate your whole life, evaluate your conscience,do you have clean and clear conscience, are you peaceful now ?
Ok, now you get it all wrong, from start. "God's judgement strikes fear and dread... " only a shallow idea of the spirit of religion (christianity) may allow such an idea. I'm atheist by-the-way. Religion changed through the centuries, in fact, BUT ! there is a deep ethic and practice in christian religion, that is forgiveness (through confession for ex.). Then you have the absolution before dying, ie you give your fault away ,to the clerk, and in fine, to Jesus. Jesus is the saver ? He relief us from Adam's Fault, and other private fault.
To sum it up, the MAIN gift to the world, from Christianity is not the - witch hunt - , but the widespread idea of forgiveness, which makes it different from any other religion, islam and buddism, antic religion. And so in the very end, at least in recent times, beginning with the rehabilitation of the "creature", the immanence (Renaissance) God can only be forgiveness, which means love. Because in the very end, we all are innocent, as we are born, all the same. In the very end we just couldn't avoid making errors and acting as we did, and letting time slip away, wasting our lives,being violent, etc. Therefore there is no greater love statement as, i forgive you...
Finally an atheist who agreed with the message.
God is Love and Love is real.
I believe in bad karma !
WHO SAID GOD WAS A JUDGE?
Everyone Is a Sinner
3 Is there any advantage, then, in being a Jew? Or is there any value in being circumcised? 2 There are all kinds of advantages. First of all, God entrusted them with his word.
3 What if some of them were unfaithful? Can their unfaithfulness cancel God’s faithfulness? 4 That would be unthinkable! God is honest, and everyone else is a liar, as Scripture says,
“So you hand down justice when you speak,
and you win your case in court.”
5 But if what we do wrong shows that God is fair, what should we say? Is God unfair when he vents his anger on us? (I’m arguing the way humans would.) 6 That’s unthinkable! Otherwise, how would God be able to judge the world? 7 If my lie increases the glory that God receives by showing that God is truthful, why am I still judged as a sinner? 8 Or can we say, “Let’s do evil so that good will come from it”? Some slander us and claim that this is what we say. They are condemned, and that’s what they deserve.
9 What, then, is the situation? Do we have any advantage? Not at all. We have already accused everyone (both Jews and Greeks) of being under the power of sin, 10 as Scripture says,
“Not one person has God’s approval.
11 No one understands.
No one searches for God.
12 Everyone has turned away.
Together they have become rotten to the core.
No one does anything good,
not even one person.
13 Their throats are open graves.
Their tongues practice deception.
Their lips hide the venom of poisonous snakes.
14 Their mouths are full of curses and bitter resentment.
15 They run quickly to murder people.
16 There is ruin and suffering wherever they go.
17 They have not learned to live in peace.
18 They are not terrified of God.”
19 We know that whatever the Scriptures say applies to everyone under their influence, and no one can say a thing. The whole world is brought under the judgment of God. 20 Not one person can have God’s approval by any effort to follow the laws in the Scriptures. These laws show what sin is.
God Gives Us His Approval as a Gift
21 Now, the way to receive God’s approval has been made plain in a way other than the laws in the Scriptures. Moses’ Teachings and the Prophets tell us this. 22 Everyone who believes has God’s approval through faith in Jesus Christ.
There is no difference between people. 23 Because all people have sinned, they have fallen short of God’s glory. 24 They receive God’s approval freely by an act of his kindness [a] through the price Christ Jesus paid to set us free ⌞from sin⌟. 25 God showed that Christ is the throne of mercy where God’s approval is given through faith in Christ’s blood. In his patience God waited to deal with sins committed in the past. 26 He waited so that he could display his approval at the present time. This shows that he is a God of justice, a God who approves of people who believe in Jesus.
27 So, do we have anything to brag about? Bragging has been eliminated. On what basis was it eliminated? On the basis of our own efforts? No, indeed! Rather, it is eliminated on the basis of faith. 28 We conclude that a person has God’s approval by faith, not by his own efforts.
29 Is God only the God of the Jews? Isn’t he also the God of people who are not Jewish? Certainly, he is, 30 since it is the same God who approves circumcised people by faith and uncircumcised people through this same faith.
31 Are we abolishing the laws in the Scriptures by this faith? That’s unthinkable! Rather, we are supporting these laws.
We Have God’s Approval by Faith
4 What can we say that we have discovered about our ancestor Abraham? 2 If Abraham had God’s approval because of something he did, he would have had a reason to brag. But he could not brag to God about it. 3 What does Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and that faith was regarded as the basis of Abraham’s approval by God.”
4 When people work, their pay is not regarded as a gift but something they have earned. 5 However, when people don’t work but believe God, the one who approves ungodly people, their faith is regarded as the basis of God’s approval. 6 David says the same thing about those who are blessed: God approves of people without their earning it. David said,
7 “Blessed are those whose disobedience is forgiven
and whose sins are pardoned.
8 Blessed is the person whom the Lord no longer considers sinful.”
9 Are only the circumcised people blessed, or are uncircumcised people blessed as well? We say, “Abraham’s faith was regarded as the basis of God’s approval.” 10 How was his faith regarded as the basis of God’s approval? Was he circumcised or was he uncircumcised at that time? He had not been circumcised. 11 Abraham’s faith was the basis of his approval by God while he was still uncircumcised. The mark of circumcision is the seal of that approval. Therefore, he is the father of every believer who is not circumcised, and their faith, too, is regarded as the basis of their approval by God. 12 He is also the father of those who not only are circumcised but also are following in the footsteps of his faith. Our father Abraham had that faith before he was circumcised.
13 So it was not by obeying the laws in Moses’ Teachings that Abraham or his descendants received the promise that he would inherit the world. Rather, he received this promise through God’s approval that comes by faith. 14 If those who obey Moses’ Teachings are the heirs, then faith is useless and the promise is worthless. 15 The laws in Moses’ Teachings bring about anger. But where those laws don’t exist, they can’t be broken. 16 Therefore, the promise is based on faith so that it can be a gift.[a] Consequently, the promise is guaranteed for every descendant, not only for those who are descendants by obeying Moses’ Teachings but also for those who are descendants by believing as Abraham did. He is the father of all of us, 17 as Scripture says: “I have made you a father of many nations.”
Abraham believed when he stood in the presence of the God who gives life to dead people and calls into existence things that don’t even exist. 18 When there was nothing left to hope for, Abraham still hoped and believed. As a result, he became a father of many nations, as he had been told: “That is how many descendants you will have.” 19 Abraham didn’t weaken. Through faith he regarded the facts: His body was already as good as dead now that he was about a hundred years old, and Sarah was unable to have children. 20 He didn’t doubt God’s promise out of a lack of faith. Instead, giving honor to God ⌞for the promise⌟, he became strong because of faith 21 and was absolutely confident that God would do what he promised. 22 That is why Abraham’s faith was regarded as the basis of his approval by God.
23 But the words “his faith was regarded as the basis of his approval by God” were written not only for him 24 but also for us. Our faith will be regarded as the basis of our approval by God-each of us who believe in the one who brought Jesus, our Lord, back to life. 25 Jesus, our Lord, was handed over to death because of our failures and was brought back to life so that we could receive God’s approval.
So many claims, so little evidence. So sad.
so true
There's never a good answer to sending people to hell, it's always dodged to make it look like the humans' fault, but who would choose to go to hell?
If all this nonsense was real then god would have to be evil for setting up a mechanism that puts good people in hell just cause they thought the god concept was retarded, which was not their fault.
Horri
So Richard Swinburne (boarding school and Oxbridge educated, working at Oxford), will be judged alongside a man born in a ghetto from drug addicted parents who went on to become a drug-dealer...according to Swinburne that is an acceptably level playing field! Comical, really.
I think Swinburne would say that he will be judged more severely than someone in such a position. This is a common belief held in Christianity. You can see this in the gospels with Christ being merciful to the sinners of society and at the same time exposing the sin of those who thought that the were in good standing with God. Paraphrasing "if you hate your neighbor you are guilty of murder, if you look with lust you are guilty of adultery"
There is NO judgement or punishment in the afterlife! Judgment is just a dogma of the Roman church, This judgement concept was influenced by the old testament God (the evil God, lesser God) who created the imperfect physical world. The supreme highest God is ALL Loving and merciful God! And that is the God incarnate Jesus Christ.
However.. there is a karma for all of us.
nice mixture of religious dogma there. roman catholics are wrong, jesus worshippers are right, and throw in a bit of hinduism for good measure.
I am the Seat of Wisdom, i cannot be fooled !
What does god do with a being he created that went to the dark side that he knew would go to the darkness as soon as he created it???? Lol sounds so Lord Of The Rings, Robert , is it not obvious to you yet that it’s all man made fables?
@@realitycheck1231 you didn't create God.
I own creation, nature, and i allow nature to punish some places for punishment and purification !
I am very disappointed at the Christian responses in this video. While the Bible does not speak about hell in the clearest of terms, it speaks clear enough. According to Jesus, hell is to be avoided at all costs (Matthew 5:29-30). Hell does not purify the soul, hell destroys it (Matthew 10:28). The idea that hell is locked from the inside is totally absent from Scripture. Instead, Jesus taught that many will seek to enter and will not be able to (Luke 13:24). Man is separated from God because of his sin. Christ died as an atoning sacrifice for sin to bring man back to God (1 Peter 3:18), and restore the relationship that was lost (John 17:3). Man returns to God and regains a right relationship with Him through repentance and faith in the atoning work of Christ. This is the only way to come to God and escape the wrath to come.
Robert, god is a fiction, and pursuing the subject is, simply, beneath someone of your intelligence.
It always bothers me when intelligent people make dishonest comments. You don't know that and you know that you don't know that.
Purgatory and Hell is the same in some point of view but purgatory has forgiveness !
You have money, prestige, lust, greed, worldly pleasures, power, are your really honestly tell yourself i am very joyful and my life is very meaningful and i have best moral just heavenly legacies to be given to present and future generations !
17:11 Christianity doesn't teach that anymore.
He is God. He is God mind. He is God?? NO. He is live God will. This man no serious speaks God is...weak up poor man