The thing with WW is she personally doesn't feel oppressive to me, but when I get into a doubles match where she's buffing a good Jason or IG and they have multiple ways to protect themselves using her armor as well as their own and then they actually know what they're doing... well it gets real dangerous real quick lol
@@user-dg3zt1sf6k the devs balance the game around twos, the only things i can think of that had to get tuned due to 1s is like TnJ loop (not 2s balance cuz harder to loop in 2s due to teammate interference)
@@user-dg3zt1sf6k Honestly, I feel like most characters shine/are more balanced in 2v2... Like Beetlejuice for example... waaay better in 2s... I would say the super high tiers like Steven and WW are the main ones that feel broken in 2s (for me personally anyways) and that's mostly because they have kill power and multiple defensive options to allow a good teammate to freely attack
Dude reading this comment almost brought tears of joy to my eyes, I’ve recently gotten into Multiversus this last 2 weeks and started playing him and the level of frustration is unreal perfectly baiting and outpacing ppl just for them to squeeze back in to the stage and kill me in 3 hits…
The buffs were awesome, the button especially makes a difference now (both in combos and it's actual function of redirecting projectiles) but he still has to operate above any opponent's level to win anything. He needs that 100% brain usage at all times, cause he dies so easily.
Im tired of keeping this to myself so Imma just... dump it before I get cooked, Finn is a good character. REALLY good. but he really is a DI check. Finn can still KIND of 0td by doing jab jab > IAD nair > jump sair > up special... but all you need to do is hold your stick AWAY and that combo dies after nair. Finn's combos are SUPER DIable and Im tired of pretending they're not, or that his combos are 100% consistent. DI up and in against jab jab > IAD sair > any tilt. DI'ing up and in will kill these combos after sair, unless they get a DI read. thanks for coming to my ted talk
Playing marvin is fun until the opponent gets in on you and you blow up at 60%, meanwhile shaggy weighs like a brick and doesn’t die until 150. Fantastic
That's not true at all. Maybe you struggle to kill shaggy as Marvin, which is expected, but some characters like batman, bugs bunny, iron giant and others can kill Shaggy at around 100-120% very easily. It happened to me a lot.
4:15 HOLY HELL, THAT'S ME!! I'M THAT BEETLEJUICE! You were a crazy ass match to go against and my god it was fun as hell. And I was listening to Beetlejuice the Musical whilst fighting ya. And you can tell I'm the real deal cause I gotta vid up. But hope to fight ya again someday!!!
I see a lot of people complaining about the Tom nerf yesterday, and I know a lot of people don't wanna hear this but Tom is still relatively fine. I am saying this also as a Tom main because he still has his loops. Instead of doing paddle into jump insert downwards angled moved; you can just cancel the paddle into downwards angled Jerryshot and still get the ground bounce. What I am more so annoyed about is T&J is 100% about to become another LeBron situation; where even though he's not "broken" or topping tier lists he's just gonna get nerfed more because their combo game is seen as degenerate, and I am gonna call my shot now that next patch Tom probably won't be able to cancel paddle into normals or specials anymore. I hope I am wrong but it seems that they are REALLY trying to stop them from getting tech chase resets even though it feels like they designed a character to do specifically that
Actually, the Paddleball into ground downward angle Jerry shot is actually not true if the opponent DI's it correctly (I think). I noticed that when I was fighting a Master Ranked Velma. I'm not sure if it's Velma's hurtbox, but I watched a Twitch stream of the #1 Tom yesterday where he does it, but he did say he hopes he gets people who doesn't DI the move when on queue or something and I'm assuming many still don't know yet or maybe cause of Velma's hurtbox, but that's something people should test out. If it is DI'able Paddleball became a really bad move now. You can just DI away to avoid getting Up Air and it leaves Tom in a vulnerable state on whiff and it only is used for like anti-airing, and early percentage Uptilt to sair confirms
As a Masters Tom player, I still believe Tom is amazing. The nerfs introduced in Season 3 didn’t really have much impact. The main change was removing the ability to dodge cancel out of paddle which only meant you couldn't spam it as frequently and needed to time it more carefully. Now this recent nerf did destroy some kill combos which to me was devastating as I used these quite a lot. The main one I did was paddle into rocket jump, which can be followed by trash can lids. Now you can sort of still do this but you would need to hope they don't get dodge off after the hitstun from paddle while your strapping Jerry on a rocket. This feels like a 50-50 if they get out or not, that's why I said you can still SORT of do this. The loop still exists but is more difficult, you need to find that sweet spot timing on when to release the Jerry shot after paddle. If done correctly followed by tech chasing, it can do insane damage from the get-go. This is why I still think Tom is insane, practicing tech chasing and dodge predictions will easily get you to Masters with Tom. I mean just look at Hardcorefox... still going strong with that 90% winrate after the nerf.
He's still good but they just removed all his cool combos and his vertical game so now you can only do Jerry shot out of the paddle which just leads to the cheap loops.
As a tom main I kind of agree. I don't think he's bad now but he seems pretty much outclassed by other mages like bugs, joker and morty who not only have good projectiles but also really good combos. Tom lost most of his combos and it seems like the devs are trying really hard to make paddle as situational as possible. Like you said I won't be surprised if they just keep neefing him solely because people think his playstyle sucks.
Arya does feel really good this patch thanks to the down air change. I hope they keep it that way since you still need to control the character well to land it.
@@ULTRA_UK_SUPER her dash dash attack does 8 to 10 damage depending on how many hits land. It also has a ton of end lag. Most characters can easily punish it by jumping and using a dair or nair depending on the character. Jabs no longer have priority so literally just use any move that isn't a jab. Good luck, hope this helped.
Stripe def has that clip energy, every time I play him it feels fantastic, even watching clips is fun. Velma in 1s hasn't been great, though for me I played 2 matches at 3 am where my only opponent I was getting was a Batman. In 2s though she's been great (as long as I get a teammate who doesn't walk off the stage immediately), really like how she feels in the air. Beetlejuice is fun (especially in the air juggling) but he felt kinda janky the first time I played him. Better now than before, but has room to grow.
With how many buffs he's gotten and seeing how he still is on the lower end I'm starting to wonder if his current design works in this current version of mvs.
After the first tier list my main reason why I mained stripe it’s so fun to see him rise in the rankings and become at least high tier god speed stripe the best gremlin boy
I've been a Jake main since the beta. I keep trying to persevere but man it's impossible. I'm thinking if I want to keep playing this game I'm going to have to find someone else to play. But who? 😅
Batman main here, not the great one but getting closer to 3000 wins Glad to see u happy Batman is a combo GOD Love him so much, I can finally stand against cheesy characters I had 40+ unranked matches past midnight - I lost 3 See u around Pfg: "We're beginning to evaluate how to make Batman more dynamic in an upcoming patch" Me before: "meh, they are just lying, nothing is gonna change, I must rely on my old ways and struggle" Me after: .... speechless ...
Harley really got neutered a bit too hard imo. Yeah she's still solid enough to be fine but like, y'know when you see something that you feel deserves a nerf get nerfed too hard? Yeah, that's how I feel about harley. edit: its mostly just that she needs to feel a bit better and smoother to play again, more than a tier power difference.
I think she Is ok the fact that u cant Challenge air hammer, downtilt if u try punish It from above Is almost imposible, the little stair combo we all know the bomb set ups they could do it worse
@@jonathanchavez8881 That's why I mostly think that a small buff to make her feel a bit smoother/better to play without changing her power level too much would be best.
im dying laughing seeing the three characters I play immediately put into top tier. I knew bugs and black adam we good but hearing smith is also good makes me feel like I've haven't been cooking enough with him this season
I think I’m a bit biased since Multiversus has been forcing me to fight Masters and Grand Masters players in Platinum 5 but Iron Giant feels a bit too high. I don’t think his nerf have ruined him but I feel some changes have drastically shifted his matchups. The loss of the rage mode shockwaves on stop really makes Rage mode worthless in 1v1, I get the point of it being more projectile focused but combining that with a majority of the cast being capable of getting in your face you really just can’t fight back. One other thing I’ve noticed since the update but the change to IG’s nair that throws people away instead of bringing them in makes trying to set up combos a 50/50 if you hit an enemy from behind. It makes the fight feel more rng focused then I hoped it would be and just makes fights feel unfun
I play Iron Giant to and I feel like the nair knocback depends on where your enemy is. If he is behind you, he get's launched behind, and if he's forward, he goes forward. I may be wrong, but that's my experience. (Also I love his new nair, it feels like an actual move now)
Yea wish they balanced the 2s and 1s experience with these characters . Like in 1s many characters had horrible frame data for countering opportunities even when you made a great read . Frame data needs to be released
As long as dem Jason hurtboxes (as well as the overall hit + hurtboxes for the game) still are the way they are, I can never get on board with Jason being high tier. Getting hit against opponents who are jabbing while facing the wrong direction just feels miserable, as does watching Jason swing clean through opponents. All his killing power gets rekt by him just constantly losing exchanges.
T & J is unusable they changed it so up-tilt has no jump afterwards making his approaches lowkey impossible unless its jerry throw or s-air which both are very punishable unless they are stunned.
Very much so I’ve been saying this she feels clunky and out of date compared to some of the other characters. which sucks. Her combo and juggle game feel lack luster. Your always using sair into up air because her other options are just lack luster. They got rid of her kill confirms especially the ones with up bat. I really hope they show her some love next balance patch.
Void, I get it that everyone has their own tier list and it isn't *THE* tier list, but you gotta be smoking something to think Giant is high high tier when he has like 0 good matchups.
I love how his grounded side dodge blends with his kit. Especially in 2s when someone thinks I'm playing careful neutral with them and I kill their partner off to the side.
I guess I'm just dogshit at Shaggy, because I feel like everyone is faster and has better range on their attacks. Playing into characters like T&J and Marvin are tough because he has predictable gap closers. What am I doing wrong lol
Try learning his side attack combos on the ground you can do hit hit dodge into then hit hit then up air or up special and then keep hitting them in the air he’s really good the last nerf barley did anything to him he is one of the fastest killing characters and he survives for quite a while compared to other characters he’s practically a tank
@@thegamewin100 He is for sure tanky. I can hit ground combos pretty consistently, but if i ever mess up my spacing he loses to everyone else's ground attack range.
As a Morty, Smith and Rick main Morty: is now a true character to fight the top tiers but man i wish he has 2 things 1.- better armor break 2.- an actual hitbox on neutral air thats it Smith: i pick him before the buffs and i love him but im sad and happy to see players try him out cuz i think hes gonna get nerfs cuz people spam some moves and dont actually know any combos Rick: people are sleeping on Rick every single tier is on b but man this guy has so many combos with fart bomb or neutral air meseeek that is cooking people so easy and i love that ❤
I was sitting here wondering what the hell you were talking about because Morty Smith happens to be the character’s full name and i just disregarded the comma and forgot their was an AGENT Smith 😭
I play rank as Arya and a power puff and beetle juice honestly everyone easy but only headache is batman 🤣 I hate him after his rework he broken and I only play 1’s I don’t like like 2’a due to I don’t have a solid 2 player who knows how to play very well
I agree with Jason but maybe even lower a tier. His hurtboxes suck. Constantly getting hit by moves that shouldn’t hit feels awful. His moveset is good, but I feel like he would be higher if his hurtboxes weren’t so trash.
What's the point of your tier names? If you're middle of the characters in the game, you're mid. You can be a good character and be low tier. All of it is in relation to the other characters in the game.
For the first time, I heard someone have a somewhat informed opinion on Jake. Not to cope or anything but this character is not consistently useable in doubles or singles and just for icing on the Cake his game plan is boring and uninspired
I highly disagree about iron Giant, he is bottom tier. I have seen almost no one playing him, besides me and if I fight a good Harley there's nothing I can do but get juggled. And that goes for a vast majority of the roster which can easily combo iron Giant because he's so slow
Banana Guard isn't low tier. In FFA and likely 2v2. He is VERY much a threat level character. Main thing he needs is just his side special hitbox nerfed. It's easily the most oversized hitbox now in the game and lingers to boot. Aside from that. Maybe he's fine. But still strong.
I'm a main Batman and I think he is pretty good, one of the best characters in the game. But he suffer against character with big or disjoint hitboxes, I lost a lot versus Iron Giant, Taz and Agent Smith and don't think is a skill issue, he just had bad matchups to be the best character in the game.
No one cares about 2s. Besides it doesn’t matter what they change when the hitboxes are a mess. Just a mangle of stuff onscreen with that many characters
i main harley and i can say she feels like she should be better than she is. i started learning smith and im having more fun figuring out his combo strings since i’ve kinda plateaued with her. as harley, banana guard is annoying as helllllll he is a sleeper threat
Gizmo is pretty trash now you need to drop him down a notch lol very big wiffs, slow and garbage knockback, he plays well but cant finish the job against the current lineup
The thing with WW is she personally doesn't feel oppressive to me, but when I get into a doubles match where she's buffing a good Jason or IG and they have multiple ways to protect themselves using her armor as well as their own and then they actually know what they're doing... well it gets real dangerous real quick lol
That’s why I feel like the balancing in this game is so inconsistent when they never consider how the characters can function in 2v2.
@@user-dg3zt1sf6kagree cause its funny that 2v2 is the main selling point but 2v2 not balanced and its so laggy 😂
Ww are passive aggressive, the move around back and fourth then do Nair or jab u to death(1v1)
@@user-dg3zt1sf6k the devs balance the game around twos, the only things i can think of that had to get tuned due to 1s is like TnJ loop (not 2s balance cuz harder to loop in 2s due to teammate interference)
@@user-dg3zt1sf6k Honestly, I feel like most characters shine/are more balanced in 2v2... Like Beetlejuice for example... waaay better in 2s... I would say the super high tiers like Steven and WW are the main ones that feel broken in 2s (for me personally anyways) and that's mostly because they have kill power and multiple defensive options to allow a good teammate to freely attack
Coming from the perspective of a Marvin main, he needs a better kill move. You get people to such high percentages and can barely get a kill.
Dude reading this comment almost brought tears of joy to my eyes, I’ve recently gotten into Multiversus this last 2 weeks and started playing him and the level of frustration is unreal perfectly baiting and outpacing ppl just for them to squeeze back in to the stage and kill me in 3 hits…
That’s why in stopped using him. 😩
Shaggy breathes on you at 40: dead
Marvin hits you with a nuke at 100: nothing😭
The buffs were awesome, the button especially makes a difference now (both in combos and it's actual function of redirecting projectiles) but he still has to operate above any opponent's level to win anything. He needs that 100% brain usage at all times, cause he dies so easily.
na he can stay like that, annoying projectile spamming characters dont deserve better kill moves or they become overly oppressive and unfun to verse
They really decided to make Batman OP just cause it’s his season 😂
hes been op since beta
Im tired of keeping this to myself so Imma just... dump it
before I get cooked, Finn is a good character. REALLY good. but he really is a DI check.
Finn can still KIND of 0td by doing jab jab > IAD nair > jump sair > up special... but all you need to do is hold your stick AWAY and that combo dies after nair.
Finn's combos are SUPER DIable and Im tired of pretending they're not, or that his combos are 100% consistent. DI up and in against jab jab > IAD sair > any tilt. DI'ing up and in will kill these combos after sair, unless they get a DI read.
thanks for coming to my ted talk
That's correct, I was always dying to that combo before, but now it rarely happens.
@@PrivateDaisyyeah finns threat level would be so much worse if his ability to chase wasnt so good.
Black adam as a tank that can fly ia crazy when jason and batman can kill you at 60-70 with a move instead of comboing you out of the stage
was waiting for this comment
I hate playing against agent smith, everybody looks pro but their just spamming l1
l1?
@@robohex6Neutral Special
Playing marvin is fun until the opponent gets in on you and you blow up at 60%, meanwhile shaggy weighs like a brick and doesn’t die until 150. Fantastic
@@NotxalkBN Marvin also has a tough time killing, and as a mage, it shocks me how Bugs is allowed to have his bat that can kill at 70-90
@@the_patch_notes Marvin hate is personalized, this is what I try to tell people
@@the_patch_notes also W cacturn pfp
That's not true at all. Maybe you struggle to kill shaggy as Marvin, which is expected, but some characters like batman, bugs bunny, iron giant and others can kill Shaggy at around 100-120% very easily. It happened to me a lot.
@@JV-cz7db They r talking about Marvin my dude MARVIN KILL POTENTIAL not others
get It?
4:15 HOLY HELL, THAT'S ME!! I'M THAT BEETLEJUICE! You were a crazy ass match to go against and my god it was fun as hell. And I was listening to Beetlejuice the Musical whilst fighting ya. And you can tell I'm the real deal cause I gotta vid up. But hope to fight ya again someday!!!
Congrats man, that’s dope.
Bro turned up the juice and saw what shook loose
lol i was just listening to say my name earlier
@JeffNguetsop Goood Shit that's what I like to hear. Dead Mom is realllly good too
@frank8917 Truly, and this juice is currently top 10 Beetlejuice and bouta reach Masters
I see a lot of people complaining about the Tom nerf yesterday, and I know a lot of people don't wanna hear this but Tom is still relatively fine. I am saying this also as a Tom main because he still has his loops. Instead of doing paddle into jump insert downwards angled moved; you can just cancel the paddle into downwards angled Jerryshot and still get the ground bounce.
What I am more so annoyed about is T&J is 100% about to become another LeBron situation; where even though he's not "broken" or topping tier lists he's just gonna get nerfed more because their combo game is seen as degenerate, and I am gonna call my shot now that next patch Tom probably won't be able to cancel paddle into normals or specials anymore. I hope I am wrong but it seems that they are REALLY trying to stop them from getting tech chase resets even though it feels like they designed a character to do specifically that
Actually, the Paddleball into ground downward angle Jerry shot is actually not true if the opponent DI's it correctly (I think). I noticed that when I was fighting a Master Ranked Velma. I'm not sure if it's Velma's hurtbox, but I watched a Twitch stream of the #1 Tom yesterday where he does it, but he did say he hopes he gets people who doesn't DI the move when on queue or something and I'm assuming many still don't know yet or maybe cause of Velma's hurtbox, but that's something people should test out.
If it is DI'able Paddleball became a really bad move now. You can just DI away to avoid getting Up Air and it leaves Tom in a vulnerable state on whiff and it only is used for like anti-airing, and early percentage Uptilt to sair confirms
As a Masters Tom player, I still believe Tom is amazing. The nerfs introduced in Season 3 didn’t really have much impact. The main change was removing the ability to dodge cancel out of paddle which only meant you couldn't spam it as frequently and needed to time it more carefully.
Now this recent nerf did destroy some kill combos which to me was devastating as I used these quite a lot. The main one I did was paddle into rocket jump, which can be followed by trash can lids. Now you can sort of still do this but you would need to hope they don't get dodge off after the hitstun from paddle while your strapping Jerry on a rocket. This feels like a 50-50 if they get out or not, that's why I said you can still SORT of do this.
The loop still exists but is more difficult, you need to find that sweet spot timing on when to release the Jerry shot after paddle. If done correctly followed by tech chasing, it can do insane damage from the get-go. This is why I still think Tom is insane, practicing tech chasing and dodge predictions will easily get you to Masters with Tom.
I mean just look at Hardcorefox... still going strong with that 90% winrate after the nerf.
Man if they want to end with tech chase they need to rework everyone even agent Smith has infinits now
He's still good but they just removed all his cool combos and his vertical game so now you can only do Jerry shot out of the paddle which just leads to the cheap loops.
As a tom main I kind of agree. I don't think he's bad now but he seems pretty much outclassed by other mages like bugs, joker and morty who not only have good projectiles but also really good combos. Tom lost most of his combos and it seems like the devs are trying really hard to make paddle as situational as possible. Like you said I won't be surprised if they just keep neefing him solely because people think his playstyle sucks.
fighting Garnet feels like she takes up the whole stage
Arya does feel really good this patch thanks to the down air change. I hope they keep it that way since you still need to control the character well to land it.
Truth
I just don't like her jab bc of its hitbox abd dash attack distance
Her jab hitbox is broken and her dash attack has insane damage and distance
@@ULTRA_UK_SUPER her dash dash attack does 8 to 10 damage depending on how many hits land. It also has a ton of end lag. Most characters can easily punish it by jumping and using a dair or nair depending on the character. Jabs no longer have priority so literally just use any move that isn't a jab. Good luck, hope this helped.
Stripe def has that clip energy, every time I play him it feels fantastic, even watching clips is fun. Velma in 1s hasn't been great, though for me I played 2 matches at 3 am where my only opponent I was getting was a Batman. In 2s though she's been great (as long as I get a teammate who doesn't walk off the stage immediately), really like how she feels in the air. Beetlejuice is fun (especially in the air juggling) but he felt kinda janky the first time I played him. Better now than before, but has room to grow.
The devs wanted to give Batman the ultimate birthday present clearly that’s why he’s so good right now 😂
10:29 unless you put him agaist a Marvin
Fact
I wish they would do something good for Jake. I do appreciate that generally they've been buffing more and nerfing less
With how many buffs he's gotten and seeing how he still is on the lower end I'm starting to wonder if his current design works in this current version of mvs.
He's a character that should be a low tier. You do NOT want a top-tier Jake, that would be so cancer.
Oh trust me I played the beta and experienced top tier Jake lol. But I want him to at least be decent.@@AwesomeMooseSmile
After the first tier list my main reason why I mained stripe it’s so fun to see him rise in the rankings and become at least high tier god speed stripe the best gremlin boy
I've been a Jake main since the beta. I keep trying to persevere but man it's impossible. I'm thinking if I want to keep playing this game I'm going to have to find someone else to play. But who? 😅
Love the content as always void, keep doing what you do
Batman main here, not the great one but getting closer to 3000 wins
Glad to see u happy Batman is a combo GOD
Love him so much, I can finally stand against cheesy characters
I had 40+ unranked matches past midnight - I lost 3
See u around
Pfg: "We're beginning to evaluate how to make Batman more dynamic in an upcoming patch"
Me before: "meh, they are just lying, nothing is gonna change, I must rely on my old ways and struggle"
Me after: .... speechless ...
Harley really got neutered a bit too hard imo. Yeah she's still solid enough to be fine but like, y'know when you see something that you feel deserves a nerf get nerfed too hard? Yeah, that's how I feel about harley.
edit: its mostly just that she needs to feel a bit better and smoother to play again, more than a tier power difference.
I think she Is ok the fact that u cant Challenge air hammer, downtilt if u try punish It from above Is almost imposible, the little stair combo we all know the bomb set ups they could do it worse
@@jonathanchavez8881 That's why I mostly think that a small buff to make her feel a bit smoother/better to play without changing her power level too much would be best.
im dying laughing seeing the three characters I play immediately put into top tier. I knew bugs and black adam we good but hearing smith is also good makes me feel like I've haven't been cooking enough with him this season
ah yes, shaggy is the ultimate life form, as it was always meant to be
JMafia deserved his own tier. That guy is built diffrently wtf I've watched one of his streams and he went 35wx1l with banana guard
I think I’m a bit biased since Multiversus has been forcing me to fight Masters and Grand Masters players in Platinum 5 but Iron Giant feels a bit too high. I don’t think his nerf have ruined him but I feel some changes have drastically shifted his matchups. The loss of the rage mode shockwaves on stop really makes Rage mode worthless in 1v1, I get the point of it being more projectile focused but combining that with a majority of the cast being capable of getting in your face you really just can’t fight back.
One other thing I’ve noticed since the update but the change to IG’s nair that throws people away instead of bringing them in makes trying to set up combos a 50/50 if you hit an enemy from behind. It makes the fight feel more rng focused then I hoped it would be and just makes fights feel unfun
I play Iron Giant to and I feel like the nair knocback depends on where your enemy is. If he is behind you, he get's launched behind, and if he's forward, he goes forward.
I may be wrong, but that's my experience. (Also I love his new nair, it feels like an actual move now)
Does anyone know why Jake's second nair is not working? The mallet swing for some reason has stopped working for me after this patch
I they tried to fix that?
The second hit of Nair got turned into a special a few patches back so if I remember correctly to access it is to do Nair into neutral special
After you do Nair, do special for the follow up. Its a weird input but it works.
11:33 Harada in Moltivorse
I think the rick mains are forgettin how tonplace a portal without teleporting
Just press special twice in quick succession and thats it
5:59 Every time I lose to a Bugs I always feel like I’m out played
DON'T THINK WE DON'T HEAR THE OMEGA STRIKERS MUSIC
Yea wish they balanced the 2s and 1s experience with these characters . Like in 1s many characters had horrible frame data for countering opportunities even when you made a great read . Frame data needs to be released
I know it's not the same as 1v1 but in 2v2s I'm a top 30 marvin 😀. I just think he's so much fun.
hooly thats insane, good job bro
As long as dem Jason hurtboxes (as well as the overall hit + hurtboxes for the game) still are the way they are, I can never get on board with Jason being high tier. Getting hit against opponents who are jabbing while facing the wrong direction just feels miserable, as does watching Jason swing clean through opponents. All his killing power gets rekt by him just constantly losing exchanges.
T & J is unusable they changed it so up-tilt has no jump afterwards making his approaches lowkey impossible unless its jerry throw or s-air which both are very punishable unless they are stunned.
No he isnt. Learn how to use him better.
ya you were carried bro sorry to tell you
@@fatpandaJP i mean, same with all the other broken characters like wonder woman, finn, black adam 🤷🏼♂️
9:45 feel that, i main batman and play harley secondary and this season she just ain’t as good as she was last season, feels a bit clunky
Very much so I’ve been saying this she feels clunky and out of date compared to some of the other characters. which sucks. Her combo and juggle game feel lack luster. Your always using sair into up air because her other options are just lack luster. They got rid of her kill confirms especially the ones with up bat. I really hope they show her some love next balance patch.
Music from the start of the video?
My fav duo is BACK BABYYYY!!!!
Tom & jerry gang taking the W
Jake is great against projectile characters, he can instantly destroy Jerry with down special.
Also, his perks are pretty good
Like the one where you stun your opponent with up/up air special
Ever since they removed Wonder woman potential to combo from jab to IAD aerials, she been getting worse as everyone around her gets better.
Boo hoo now she's top 5 instead of top 1
@aquaex6 she probably not top 5 but it's whatever~
She's still really, really good. Both in 1v1 and 2v2. It's a tank that's more agressive than some bruisers.
Theres no f way i read that without sarcastic thinking
@@tristanwin lmao sure
Void, I get it that everyone has their own tier list and it isn't *THE* tier list, but you gotta be smoking something to think Giant is high high tier when he has like 0 good matchups.
It took 2 years for people to realize batman is broken, which is insane
He’s not
@@Lucifer-fd6gp Batman main spotted
I'm a Banana Guard mai, he's actually the best character rn, smh void.
BG was completwly fine and then they gave him death combo for no reason
@@DraconasTenZHG He needs it ngl.
I love how his grounded side dodge blends with his kit. Especially in 2s when someone thinks I'm playing careful neutral with them and I kill their partner off to the side.
@@defftony Yes
I dont know if this new face-cam is permanent but it looks very bad compared to your other one. Could you change it back?
bugs is high tier almost every character has something for rocket and safe
Garnet makes Bugs look low tier now 😂
now fight Anthoz, if people keep saying Superman is low high or mid they will broke Superman beyond comprehension
Finn has never truly 0 to deathed anyone. It’s never been TRUE if the opponent knows how to DI. Hes “low high tier” fs this patch
Yea but he has one of the best adr tho. So if you patient and punish the dodge he can "0 to death"
They nerfed Tom and Jerry's paddle move again so that he can't jump at all while doing the paddle. Which first is he now huh?
I guess I'm just dogshit at Shaggy, because I feel like everyone is faster and has better range on their attacks. Playing into characters like T&J and Marvin are tough because he has predictable gap closers. What am I doing wrong lol
Try learning his side attack combos on the ground you can do hit hit dodge into then hit hit then up air or up special and then keep hitting them in the air he’s really good the last nerf barley did anything to him he is one of the fastest killing characters and he survives for quite a while compared to other characters he’s practically a tank
@@thegamewin100 He is for sure tanky. I can hit ground combos pretty consistently, but if i ever mess up my spacing he loses to everyone else's ground attack range.
@@WickedHumor doesn’t matter you can make more mistakes that’s usually what matters the most
As a Morty, Smith and Rick main
Morty: is now a true character to fight the top tiers but man i wish he has 2 things 1.- better armor break 2.- an actual hitbox on neutral air thats it
Smith: i pick him before the buffs and i love him but im sad and happy to see players try him out cuz i think hes gonna get nerfs cuz people spam some moves and dont actually know any combos
Rick: people are sleeping on Rick every single tier is on b but man this guy has so many combos with fart bomb or neutral air meseeek that is cooking people so easy and i love that ❤
Fart bomb is actually a combo tool now and it's INSANE. You can jab, f-bomb (no pun intended), fair, portal and jetpack
@@Galaxy-jy9wl yeah Man people sleeping on him cuz they dont try new stuff just the same jab aid shit
@@jonathanchavez8881 gotta test new shit
I was sitting here wondering what the hell you were talking about because Morty Smith happens to be the character’s full name and i just disregarded the comma and forgot their was an AGENT Smith 😭
@@Henry-iz7iv HAHAHAHA damn
Did they increase the speed to the game ?
I play rank as Arya and a power puff and beetle juice honestly everyone easy but only headache is batman 🤣 I hate him after his rework he broken and I only play 1’s I don’t like like 2’a due to I don’t have a solid 2 player who knows how to play very well
Now Batman players can play Batman Again!
Banana guard is literally the top rep
Jake feels terrible now
Void says I can’t have success with my character):
Try FFA. You'll find he's brutal in that mode. Up attack for easy kills.
As a Wonder Woman main in solos. Please vanquish shaggy.
I fear that TnJ placement did NOT age well lol
...because they got nerfed?
Anybody who doesn't think jake is god tier needs to get their eyes checked
I agree with Jason but maybe even lower a tier. His hurtboxes suck. Constantly getting hit by moves that shouldn’t hit feels awful. His moveset is good, but I feel like he would be higher if his hurtboxes weren’t so trash.
What's the point of your tier names? If you're middle of the characters in the game, you're mid. You can be a good character and be low tier. All of it is in relation to the other characters in the game.
Feel bad for the jake players
Screw those spammers
jake players are just people looking for their actual main, dont feel bad
hope the Marvin players are next
For the first time, I heard someone have a somewhat informed opinion on Jake. Not to cope or anything but this character is not consistently useable in doubles or singles and just for icing on the Cake his game plan is boring and uninspired
Banana guard OP af
Teach me how to beat Tom and Jerry. These literal rats have been invading ranked
You're a ww main complaining abt tnj. Literal skill issue.
batman is just rob but slimmer
Burst is 100% necessary to survive 2s unfortunately
I hope they will buff reindog one day.. its a dog.. a is suppose to run faster than a human.. but for now without speed perks he's really too slow...
Zoner that can outspeed? I'm good thanks
Bro imo he top tier. Dont have no bad matchups except superman and adam
I highly disagree about iron Giant, he is bottom tier. I have seen almost no one playing him, besides me and if I fight a good Harley there's nothing I can do but get juggled. And that goes for a vast majority of the roster which can easily combo iron Giant because he's so slow
I watched your clips of iron Giant you used, you must be playing on PC or something, because from PS5 I cannot get iron Giant to move like that
W VIDEO
I beat some good Batman’s with Jason
Still sad they gutted Jake’s bite:(
I’m a Steven main🤞🏼
Banana Guard isn't low tier. In FFA and likely 2v2. He is VERY much a threat level character.
Main thing he needs is just his side special hitbox nerfed. It's easily the most oversized hitbox now in the game and lingers to boot.
Aside from that. Maybe he's fine. But still strong.
The disrespect to lebron is crazy
Lebron is broken
hahaha the PPG downplay is crazy XD i would like to see you playing Batman im pretty sure u change ur opinion seems more like a personal problem
Based WW placing
Garnet top tier
Black adam needs a rework
People still play this game?
Good video but…Damn Agent Smith Top Tier? I feel like his range and hit boxes are terrible against characters like Bugs and T&J.
definately a top tier character, his horizontal game and his edge guarding is insane!!!!
@@yogreeno3981 Damn lol I guess ill stop complaining then
I agree that Agent Smith should have been don't talk to me tier. He's absolutely insane after the moment changes.
END THE STEVEN UNIVERSE HATE ❤🎉🎉🎉🎉
Increase the steven universe hate
Joker feels like shit. All his moves have horrendous endlag. He feels very bad right now but maybe it’s just me
Good I’m tired of the joker meta
Deserved
It couldn't have happened to a better character. I hope shaggy gets that treatment next.
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I'm a main Batman and I think he is pretty good, one of the best characters in the game. But he suffer against character with big or disjoint hitboxes, I lost a lot versus Iron Giant, Taz and Agent Smith and don't think is a skill issue, he just had bad matchups to be the best character in the game.
i agree!! finn is the bane of my existance, he outranges anything i do besides down attack and batarang
#pleasebuffjake 😂 or at least change his kit and make him viable please
As a tom main, they nerfed him bad. No more jumping out of uptilt
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Good(I use Tom and Jerry)😊
Time to call the game quits
@@ULTRA_UK_SUPER u dont😇
@@Iffyszn1089 I do😂
Superman is S tier
The game is meant for 2s though why tier list for boring 1s just running and whiff punishes
No one plays 2s, from smash to multiversus, to really any kind of these games
No one cares about 2s. Besides it doesn’t matter what they change when the hitboxes are a mess. Just a mangle of stuff onscreen with that many characters
Because 2s isnt even competitive, it would be if it had team damage
@@travisperez892 there was a 3k tourney 2v2 yesterday idk
I hate how samurai Jack's aerial down special has no priority against other moves. It's so annoying.
Thought I was the only one noticing this. Agreed
They killed tnj in today's patch😢😔
Gutted💔
Good(I use t&j
Beetlejuice low key amazing
Maybe bc I only play 2s Jack is a jerk in 2s
Jake was so good back in the beta but now he's just ugh
lol beetle juice low tier is wild looks more like your using ur opinion to rate them
shocker: a tier list is based on its creator's opinion
idc what anyone says Lebron is broken
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interesting
i main harley and i can say she feels like she should be better than she is. i started learning smith and im having more fun figuring out his combo strings since i’ve kinda plateaued with her.
as harley, banana guard is annoying as helllllll he is a sleeper threat
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Gizmo is pretty trash now you need to drop him down a notch lol very big wiffs, slow and garbage knockback, he plays well but cant finish the job against the current lineup
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