10 Mistakes Karateka Make Sparring! Karate to MMA or Kickboxing
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มิ.ย. 2024
- If you are a Karateka (karate practitioner) and you are looking to get into kickboxing or some sort of kickboxing style, like muay thai, dutch style kickboxing, sanda, sambo, or really any other discipline that involves punching, kicking and sparring.. I will warn you that there will be some mistakes made! But the transition from kumite to others sparring isn't unlike other transitions. There will always be hiccups! If you don't want to get punched in the face... well, change that attitude, because it is bound to happen. You are more than likely (almost a certainty) going to get punched in the face. The best way to prepare yourself for self defense in a street fight is to get used to being in those stressful situations. Sparring is a great way to pressure test martial arts, and to help you work on giving yourself controlled chaos to work with!
Doesn't matter if you're isshinryu, kyokushin, sport karate, olympic karate, goju ryu, wado ryu, shorin, shito, kempo, kenpo, or MORE! You're bound to have some of these issues just like I did! Hopefully this video helps.
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How many of these mistakes have you made? I’ve done 7
I used to do the "look away and hook" thing all the time. After a wrestler friend took advantage of it to get my back I started to fix it. I didnt even realize I was doing it before. Thats also why I emphasize cross training with my students and have a free sparring night/class open to all styles and systems (pre covid obviously)
At least your honest rock on brother!
When I first started sparring I'd do the kicking from a mile away thing lol, thanks always for the great content! While on the topic of diversifying your Karate... Would you consider doing a video on alternating/flowing between the point Karate/Taekwondo stance and the more squared up Muay Thai/Kyokushin stance? I train Kyokushin and I find that depending on the distance its very useful to know how to use both stances during sparring. Thanks again!
I've definitely made the mistake of not sitting on the front leg sparring Muay Thai guys. Learned the hard way that it was a mistake to just have it hanging out there though haha.
8. The only ones here I haven't had to unlearn at some point are closing off my back hand from blocking and adjusting for leg damage
3:48 "Those hips are gonna get taken."
Not a sentence anyone wants to hear in prison.
Hahahah
@@SenseiSeth hopefully whoever hears that in prison subscribes to this channel so they can defend themselves
beware of the back mount
We need a sparring match between sensei seth and jesse enkamp .
That would be awesome. Karate nerd vs karate nerd. Make it a whole event. 2 karate TH-camrs sparring event for charity.
Me and a friend almost did a similar thing 2 yrs ago.
I don't think that's would be good.....
@@josecosta2484,
It should be good.
@@lionsden4563 why?
@@josecosta2484,
So we can know that if either of them can really fight or not.
I'm a Karate sensei and have done Karate for 28 years. 12 years ago I made the transition to Muay-thai, Brazilian jiu-jitsu, wrestling and mma. In the beginning I made all those classic mistakes 🤣
Now I still teach Karate, but it's all hands on with drilling and freestyle sparring. No more point sparring. All of my students love the muay-thai striking with clinching, throws, takedowns and jiu-jitsu. It's more practical and realistic.
Nice!
we need more teachers like you man, not a huge fan of point sparring.
In any sparring session, never turn your gaze away when striking. It’s always taught, so I agree with this.
Watching this makes me realize how little Karate I use in sparring despite having trained in it for like 8 years haha. I will say though knowing when to have a bladed or square stance is essential
Clinching techniques is the most I use about karate (Clinching as in standing wrestling).
Which I think is really weird cuz no one pays attention to that haha
Damn even while explaining that gi is snappy!
Truuuuth
Yeah I got some serious gi envy here.
isshinryu-karateka and former less-than-legal employee; the "pop and stop" or "pressing pause," is the BIGGEST offender. If sparring, your "win" is when you feel you've overwhelmed your opponent beyond their capacity to defend. Keep going until you feel you're just "overloaded" and your defenses are just straight up broken. That's when you need to pause with your partner and figure out why that happened.
6:43, ahh yes, the famous warm up kicks to the kick
Right? 😂😂
Full contact sparring vs point sparring adjustment wise can be a pain in the butt.
I’m good at FCS not so much at point. Point sparring creates bad habits for punching IMO
Makes sense! I would agree
I have more DQs in point then points.... Tournament point is very theatric
Hahahaha
@@jameskillen4369 I’ve sparred plenty of point specialist in FCS. They don’t like getting Full contact hit, Most of them don’t. I’m more of a full contact karateka, so I take hits to give hits. Way more fun then pausing for point tabulation lol
Awesome video Sensei Seth, as an amateur MMA fighter I couldn't agree more with everything you said much love from the UK
Ayee, thanks Ryan!
@@SenseiSeth you know I'm a super fan, love your videos 💪 ps I'm down from 280 to 200lbs
If you have a serious Karate Sensei they should be teaching Sprawls
Plenty don’t
@@SenseiSeth Hey Seth I wanted to know if you could make a video about the top 10 or 15 or however many traditional martials that works for real life and that at the very least is able allow a person to defend themselves against not only the average person but also someone who just knows how to box.
@@aramboyd3906 Not exactly the same, but Seth has a catalogue ranking tier lists from almost all the intricacies of fighting from weapons, to martial arts, to even specifics of the most "efficient" (extreme emphasis on the quotations) karate styles under a playlist named "Ranking martial arts with sensei seth". Hope this helped mate👍
I’m sureq
That's another reason why I think Karate Combat is the future of karate.
I made all 10. I won't lie. I mess up and am willing too learn thank you for the free lessons. ROCK ON BROTHER!
LOVE IT!! Good stuff Ben
Seth did it. He ruined the "LEHG MOHSULES!" meme for me.
Good riddance then lol
Love your teaching style. The humor is great and at the same time serious so you get your point across.
8:47 whenever I see someone standing like that while sparring: Let's cure this lost soul of that bad habit through the use of low kicks. I'm only trying to help.
This series here is *exactly* what I've been hoping for, especially the next segment. What should I keep from my Karate training and how much should I train that stuff in addition to my current muay thai/mma striking? So far, I've liked my side kicks because they annoy the hell out of people and I've found that the Karate head kicks really catch people off guard (hook and round kicks especially).
I am so guilty of the last one though and it drives me absolutely crazy. I've been able to break out of this but it takes a serious prior commitment at the beginning of a sparring session and a sort of verbal agreement with my partner. One question I have is: how far should we carry on that continuous sparring? Generally speaking, it makes sense not to pause after every hit but what about 3,10,30?
Thank you for putting up such great content, I'm looking forward to the pandemic to be over so I can start implementing some of the strategies I've learned from you in quarantine :-)
Yea, the last ones a tough one!! Happy to put it all out there my man. Thanks sir!
Most karate kicks can be used effectively in Muay Thai and MMA, but you have to practice them in that context. You can get some advice from other people, but experiment to see which kicks will work at which times and against which targets for you. And ask yourself if there is something more effective you could do there.
Personally, I see little value for forms, one steps, or line work if your goal is only to get better at fighting. There are simply far more effective uses for your time.
Basically, what I have kept in my routine from my previous Taekwondo training is practicing the various kicks from it that I find useful when I fight, and that's about it. And I simply incorporate them into my shadowboxing and heavy bag work alongside everything else.
Just had a series of sparring matches with a muay thai fighter who's had amature fights and is an assistant coach at a local gym. He said two things: "Damn. That karate stuff is weird." And "You're very Wonderboy-esque."
I found this very encouraging, especially considering that I haven't sparred in about 5 years, and I can confirm that #sidekicksworklikemagic
I definitely learned a few things I need to work on for next time :-)
Barring the learn to sprawl one, I haven't seen a lot of these in Kyokushin. We have some unique problematic ones - standing too close/wrong fighting range, holding hands too low/exposed face, and always pushing forward jump out at me.
Good advice we’ll thought out, I was a high school wrestler, did not take up competitive TKD till my twenties. The controversy in friendly discussion Karate/ TKD does not work in a streetlight, I never had a problem it always worked for me, took me years to realize my wrestling background serves me very well in a critical situation the sprawl is the key for a standing fighter.
love your new gi, Seth, looking sharp! you could easily wear it at a wedding. believe me, everyone would love it
Something I recently learned from my karate class last week is that the more you try to just attack your opponent in sparring the more energy you lose. It’s important to slow down and analyze your defense technique as well as a counter attack.
"every karate is affraid of sparring"
Kyokushin enters chat. :P
As for squaring up - checkout Marvin Cook videos about "true boxers' stance". That stuff trips people out.
I definitely didn’t say that lil
@@SenseiSeth I know, I'm playing ;) TBH funniest "karate" mistake I've seen personally was when person kept in low stance and weird low guard... SOOO many leg kicks and head kicks/punches :D
Marvin Cooks channel is a goldmine. His videos on footwork really upped my sparring game. Can't recommend his channel enough.
I’m my mother’s preferred child. Not sure if it’s the same as favorite.
Hahahah
New to this channel but I’m grateful I found it, Oss Sensei! MMA student here but have taken a couple other sets through my 30 years 🙏🏼
One of your most informative videos ever
Happy to hear it 🙏🙏
Right on point. As always great video. I dont know why you dont have more subs, this is great content!
Great video as usual. Sparring is the most important part of martial arts/combat training in my opinion, a man with a years worth of only sparring will beat somebody with only a years worth of only padwork. The biggest thing people need to overcome is the fear of being punched in the face.
I remember back when I first started training boxing/kickboxing, after a few years I was still finding myself on the losing end of full contact sparring against totally new members. It was simply that they were hard bastards from tough backgrounds that weren't scared of being hit and came in brawling.
There comes a time where you gotta let go of the "tactical" mindset of trying to "outbox" and instead tune into the "fighter mindset" where you're not being scared of being hit and rather than fighting on the outside all the time you realize that you need to be coming forward and be aggressive.
I'm nothing special but after all these years of hard sparring I'm not afraid to be hit anymore. I'd rather take one to answer back with two. That is my humble opinion😅
"if you wanna know how to protect yourself in the woods, you gotta know how the woods fight"
*Fortunate son intensifies*
Love your videos great content 👍👊
Great teaching sensei!!
Thanks sensei! This really helped out with how I do my muay thai!!
Awesome video, speaking the karate language sensei! Great tips.
The good thing I’ve learned from boxing Is keeping your guard up and my sensei agrees with this every time I spar my fighting stance is more boxing
I transitioned many years ago and committed every single one of these. Thems the breaks. Adjustment take attention and time.
True that!!
You got me with the sprawling bit
awesome vid !!!
Thanks!!
good stuff seth
Bro changing my leg position is something I didn't think about , but that was a good vid Seth
Great video. I would add another similar one: stopping when you hit somebody, rather than keeping on hitting them.
Informative and funny too. Awesome video 🙏
great video ! 👍
Thanks a ton!
I really like this guy. I'm a karateka. I trained in Japanese Goju-ryu. Contradictory to popular opinion, Karate is valuable as a self defense art. However, there are major gaps in it that traditionalists fail to recognize. Not only that, it's taboo or dishonorable to even mention its flaws according to traditionalists! BUT learning these flaws and fixing them FOR karate is the duty of a real martial artist. This guy is doing just that, yet he IS a real karateka himself. Each martial arts style is a small piece to a giant puzzle...
And it's the SAME puzzle we're all trying to solve. Knowing strengths and weakness of different styles just gives you better resolution of the full picture.
Thanks for the love 🙏
Where’s your gym. I’m in New Orleans. Would you be open to privates?
Raleigh, NC!
@@SenseiSeth is there a way we can actually make that happen? Just curious. But serious...
I do video chats, if that’s an option for you! But I do teach privates here, dm me on insta!
Hello Seth. It is me again. Great video. I started attending boxing and MMA and I was making many of the mistakes. I did pretty well today. Thanks from San Diego
Ps Thumbs up again
so once again I'm going to comment on this as I watch,,, I'm sure you know this and you might even mention it when I hit play again, but looking away leaves you open to get clocked big time. Don't like getting hit, looking away only makes it worse. Things like sprawling is why I added Judo to my Kempo. Reaching also leaves you off balance. Stances make such a difference when defending against a grappler, sweeps and leg and ankle pics, solids stances beg time. All in all great vid. Keep them coming
Thank you sparky 🙏
Nice jab 👍🏾
Just got my Green Belt in Tang Soo Do! I'm loving karate! Just looking to learn as much as I can!
Have to say ring management is a big thing especially how you step. A lot of people step a left or right with the front foot first crossing themselves up. Makes harder to counter
He’s referring to Wonderboy at the beginning, or else he’ll unleash the NMF.
Haha 😂 nice! Gave me a good chuckle 👍🏻
Happy Thanksgiving you lot from the UK
And great video
Thank you my friend!
Good points sensei
Thanks!
Good video I also found it useful to vary in FooteWork styles. I watched videos of Mohammad Al Lee with that really rapid foot work etc
A lot of good points in here.I went through many of these issues when I transitioned fromTKD to Muay Thai. I don't know about that low kick check though. You're not really checking , you 're just letting them kick you. While it is better than taking it in the hamstring , which can not only cause a lot of damage but also turn your back to your opponent, but if take a few powerful low kicks to your thigh yo be you're going to be seriously compromised in your kicking ability. Kyokushin fighters sometimes check like you showed but they take years to condition themselves to take that kind of punishment and they don't kick with the same power as MT fighters. You either have to learn to check with your shin or use linear movement to get in and out of range quickly. Something that point fighters are usually very good at.
Number 10 is so true, it's difficult to switch from the point thinking to full contact thinking :D and another mistake, keep your fist up when they get close you will eat so many punches when you are in the kumite stance and more important kumite hand position, you are not Wonderboy, yet
My current thought at 7:54
"This video is well made so far"
Haha thanks!
Very useful video even for the people Who dont do karate
When people first start sparring they're often either focusing on hitting the other guy a bunch or not getting hit a bunch. As you develop, you realize it's actually about connecting at a higher percentage than your opponent. That means being confident when defending and letting that confidence flow into your attacks and counters.
I don't think so . It's about counting how many potential knock outs you created . How many big straight rights and lead hooks did you have to pull so as not to sleep them .
It's really nice knowing that Seth-sensei has never seen me spar, and thus I cannot be the source of inspiration for this video.
This way I can laugh about "those other people" being silly despite doing some of this myself!😂 Please don't remind me, though!
My teacher always told me, if you got hit first thing to do... sidestep slightly backwards and in lateral... does not matter in what direction, just switch the angle. 50-50 chance of dodge the follow up. 50 is good.. with time and training it will get better, but baseline 50 is good :D
Sounds solid!
Nice Video 👍
Thanks Cesar!
"Not talking about you"
Cool, guess I'll stop watching then
I like how personal it is
One of my favorite things to do while teaching children who kick like mad from way to far away is to just stare them down. They usually get the message.
Good vid
That last one about the pause is super true. I noticed that the first time I trained at a real boxing gym. Guys would not pause and say "good one," or anything like that. They often didn't even want to touch gloves after the first round. They treated it far more like prep for an actual fight.
As a comment on #4 (sprawling), when we practice burpees in the kyokushin dojo I train at we sprawl instead of doing a push up. I agree with Icy Mike: the nest thing you can teach most people for self defense is "one, two, sprawl."
You would be the best flying Lamborghini !!!!!
Love your content🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Talking about sprawling. learn to wrestle defensively for mma. this way you will keep the fight standing.
For any kind of fight,a technique must have a path to "victory"
Truth 👍👍
Robert "MMA" Whittaker does anti Wrestling better than anyone
also look for this in your Kata, much application repeats in various Kata, for example Nidan (Yondan) and Jion , all have a basic "anti takedown" application, this is getting one underhook (under the armpit) with the other hand on the back of the head (middle of the head) push the head down and circle (for a takedown or just to disengage) or push it down and knee the head , just one example
@@nicholasnj3778,
Sprawl. Learn that.
@@lionsden4563 yes agree, as a last line of defense
Being a 14 year Tang Soo Do practitioner, I have learned many of these the hard way! Which I’m sure is why you made this video, you learn many of them the hard way haha
I really love your video haha where do you train?
I am going to try and find my taekwondo belts and uniform and I will start practicing again!
Go for it Xavier!
You just described a lot of what I do.
This is really useful. I have done Karate for 10 years and having recently moved to a new area there are no Karate clubs in the area. There is a Kickboxing club which I am tempted by. There are certainly a few of these which I probably fall foul of and will have to bear in mind.
You should totally try out the new schools around you! You’re bound to make some mistakes, but that’s the fun part!
@@SenseiSeth I am thinking of it as an opportunity fill in a few gaps in my skill set. I'll have to wait until Covid clears up and the club is allowed to open but I am looking forward to it.
Bagus bang lanjut terus kontennya
Very good. Did I miss it, or did you not mention bringing that goodle pulling-hand back to the waist or some equally useless place? Thank you.
Most of issues pointed out is simply put bad karate, like kicking (or any other attack, really) out of distance our defense reaching. For those the best advice is "get good" not only for MMA transitioning, but as a Karateka as well.
Now there are really concern mistakes that even high level karatekas does for sparring and one this video is missing is the "hikite", an misunderstood part of karate mechanics (it originally meant to grab someones wrists and pull wile punching or as a simple exercise to help new comers to create good hip rotation) that is incorporated and is mandatory in tournaments to score points. That, in combination of the point sparring system that's stop a fight once a "point" is scored creates a fatal vulnerability in the karate's mechanics that is easy explorable by other strikers. You basically expose your face when attacking (hikite) wile stop on the spot soon as you are touched or touch someone (point sparring).
Wile transitioning to full contact sparring there is the first "sin" of point sparring tournaments that's needs to be corrected.
Very good video btw.
Sorry I’m late commenting was watching mikes stream!
All good my friend!!
I think the main difference between Karate and the rest of punch and kick styles is that they don't do "point-sparring", that's where all this habits come from. Thanks Sensei for the video.
Karate in itself has its strong and weak points. And thats cool. Thats what makes it Karate. Not every martial art can be every other martial art. All you can do is incorporate certain skills from other martial arts to add to your arsenal.
I think i did... All of them or nearly all of them when i started kickboxing and mma comming from karate. And still doing some (like turning my head when punshing or getting punched) and certanly some others...
I've done some of these myself. I started working on getting rid of them though. One of my favorite training methods that we have in the dojo, is placing our lead foot in a tire. Then we start boxing that way to practice trading without retreating.
We train this way in boxing to learn how to inside fight or Mexican pressure fighting. Some of the Defensive fighters don’t like it but it’s good for them teaches them how to take them punches when they get their bell rung, also teaches you to roll with and slip punches. Sometimes they will make you go body only but that’s more of a work out than fighting skill thing.
My sparing partner and I found that going from sport karate matches to a continual full contact (ish) sparing sparing style is that in sport karate you don’t learn to protect your head enough. Head strikes are not risky in sport because there is the chance of DQ. and so less strikes go to the head or they are not thrown with the same speed and explosiveness because they are pulled more.
True true!
Some dudes in the 1970"s actually created removable wings for a Ford Pinto (I know, right?). Anyway, they crashed an burned, but it did work somewhat. It was a good idea, fly to work, take the wings off, drive around all day, then fly home. But a Ford Pinto? Those were death traps just on the ground.
Dope Gi
Thank you!
Learning the sprawl is fine ... It's just applying it is where it gets different
2:29 You can actually turn this into a Good habit not by looking away but by rolling with the punch mimizing the shot
cool gi!
Thanks!
Ouch. I do a couple of those.
Spar with guys that you love. Spar with your homie mate
I like the watch it matches your gi
For Kyokushin Karateka the common "bad habits" are related to the "no punches to the head"-rule: This leads to bad guarding the head in punching range. And leaning the upper body too much forward because they get used to it while delivering punches to the opponents upper body. For Kyokushin it is really best to use gloved sparring with K1-rules early in training.
@Sensei Seth Actually attacking the attacking hand is a very valid tehnique (just not extend your arm that much. If you extend, it is a counter punch, so you better treat it as a counter punch, not a block, commitment level)
From time to time, yes! As the only defense.. no
I was lucky my instructor was a third degree black belt in the Joe Lewis fighting system and we learned traditional style punching of course but that was more in warm up and then we learned the correct way to throw and extend our punches kicks using the 3 R's. Rotate, release, return. It sets your body up for the next punch and if you do it correctly all the time brings your hands and your body into a defensive position as your striking as well
nice seishin logo :D
Where was this video a 18 months ago? I had to learn all these things the hard way
Hey, that’s probably more helpful than simply watching a video on it though!!
Lol, I had one of those kickers in a tournament once, and I did that very same thing just stood there confused, myself I used to be one of those turn the head punchers, got out of that habit when I took on boxing for a bit.
I duck m face when I hit the punch bag, somehow I feel my pucnh gets stronger that way, just like jousting.
I will take notice of this the next time I train, and see if it makes any difference in punching power.
Yes I hate when people chase the attack with there hands to block
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Karate in MMA can be an awesome way to keep opponents confused. If you learn how to use it correctly. It takes you outside the box in that realm.
One of the big differences between striking arts and grappling is that the grapplers spar almost the same way they would fight. Strikers spar in a way that's much gentler. You can't punch or kick someone in sparring, even full contact, like you would in a fight. Grapplers can do more or less everything in the same way unless the word "dislocation" comes into play. That's a huge advantage once you start sparring across disciplines. The grapplers quickly figure out that the strikers aren't going to try to injure them, but that they can still go all out.
Going from 15 years of traditional karate to boxing is a rough transition