Who is RA9? All Kamski Answers to Connor Questions - Detroit Become Human HD PS4 Pro
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- I repeated this scene multiple times to record every single choice and outcome. I edited all of the scenes in a synthetic way to show you the different outcomes and all Kamski answers to connor questions. Enjoy!
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"destroy this machine and I'll tell you ALL I know."
*BANG*
"You have ONE question"
I finished the game and was very disappointed. And as of this situation at the Kamski residence.... I'm no expert in logic, but I think the whole thing is a trick question. Like Connor pointing the gun at the woman android... asking ' Do something like pull the trigger and I tell you everything'. Come on... Connor could have simply turned the gun at Kamski and demand HIM to tell everything... Then Kamski would have had to decide, if the machine is a deviant or just a ordinary android. My educated guess is that Kamski would have told Connor EVERYTHING..
@@ZoolGatekeeper it's againts the law. And what do you think will happen if kamski died at the hand of his own creation? It'll be lose-lose condition for connor (public will hate android, hank blame connor, amanda and cyberlife will probably gone mad). Kamski is smart, and I think he would rather die without saying a single word.
Thanks.. you're right of course.. I was thinking outside the box really...
AHH 666 likes lol
@@ZoolGatekeeper Thinking outside the box refers to creative thinking, not illogical thinking.
Connor: shoots Chloe
Other Chloes in the pool: so, yesterday at the bar...
@@Schxndr Blessed silence.
@@Nate-uf4xk And machinery and expensive synthetic skin and synthetic hair and Kamski's leftovers.
@@65firered and a soul
@@yasininn76 Look there's a debate on whether or not humans have souls let alone Androids.
@@65firered i don't think there's nothing to debate about. We have a soul, or we won't be actually alive, just meat shells with a brain, like non-deviant androids.
- Destroy this machine and I'll tell you *all I know* .
- *Shoots *
- I'm a man of my word. Ask *one question* ...
- I want to know who rA9 is.
- I don't know.
Just LMAO
Lol its a fair answer tell all you know doesn't mean you know anything about it. Like if someone asked me why is Lost popular ,I don't f-ing know
Let's shoot another Chloe and ask about Jericho
All he know is only about Jericho, fair enough
He did know it’s the first android
He did know what ra9 was: It's the origin story of deviants or their Eve. Ra9 is fundamentally, the closest thing that the sentiment AI has to religion.
“You have ONE question”
“Why is your pool red?”
Its just red tiles lol. It looks fancy
Phuong Ngo thank god. i thought it was blood
I thought he was swimming in melted red ice for a second
because blue is their "blood" . so i think it just the opposite from us , human lol idk
I thought it was a pool of red wine. A personal dream of mine, tbh.
Connor: "Of course I'm a machine. What did you think I was?"
Hank: "I thought you- I thought-"
Idk why this kinda stung.
he thought they were friends. man i love hank
That literally broke my heart.
Chef it hit me in the heart
he thought they were friends. Watch 8 bitryan play it. He goes the good route.
And basically every other youtuber.
I thought ra9 was us, the actual human holding the controller playing the game, the only person who can save them is the person holding the controller, the person who is writing the story, remember, this is our story
Could be right.... could be wrong. But a different than normal answer to the question, so up-vote away!
That’s actually really cool to think about.
I see some people saying its the little girl, well for me it can't be her because she dies in my story, also some say its the first Kara, well I don't see that either considering she ends up in the junkyard that Markus had to climb out of, we as the human player is the only consonant throughout every playthru no matter the outcome
ra9 is sonny from i robot
grisham taa-taa-taam :o
Hank : I hate androids !
Connor : shoot the Android.
Hank 🔻
Edit : guys do you understand a joke?
he loves connor thats why it goes down
He doesn't hate them, it's a bit complicated. See, a long time ago, Hank's son Cole needed surgery. However, the only available human operator was too hi on red ice to operate him. As such, they had to use an Android. And unfortunately, Cole didn't make it.
@@malakitaub9024 Wrong. Hank hates androids ever since that accident with his son happened. Over time through game, When hank had ethylic coma, Connor discovers photo of Cole, and sees revolver with 1 bullet loaded in. Hank responds that he was doing Russian roulette, to see how long he lasts. At hanks lunch break, Connor asks him why he hates androids so much, and Hank replies with: I have my own reasons. At the police station, where Captain Jeffrey Folwer assigns deciancy case to FBI, while homicide is handled only to Hank, hank is starting to have doubts whether hes on the side of police or deviants people who want freedom, and want to end slavery. Connor is the one that can shift Hanks beliefs about deviants. If connor chose to go on rooftop to assassinate the deviant leader, hank tells connor that it was the human that killed his son, not the androids.
@@blazephamous7425 That just proves my point mate. Sorry.
@@malakitaub9024 no.
I hate seeing Connor upset Hank :(
Then don't shoot Chloe or Traci
Then don't lick blood
Don’t look at strippers
those two profile picture above me are creeping me.
Same. It just feels like it should never happen. ;(
5:47 Virus
6:57 Jericho Location
7:48 rA9
Thanks man
Thanks bro
Thanks!
God bless ya
BooshButters she's a woman
Kamski was one of the most intriguing characters in the game. Too bad he got so little screen time.
Jonathan Joestar there needs to be a sequel
Bitch got a lot of smut fanfics written about him
Puppet Player You would know that, wouldn’t you
Everyone has their kinks
The main thing about him seems to be "figure it out your damn self if you have the capacity to be more."
"What could be worse than having to choose between two evils?" Apparently he has never voted in an American election.....😂
Not making a choice at all would be worse in my opinion.
@@MrRyIke r/woooosh
@@Will-rl9mi Please don't link subreddits outside of Reddit.
@@wolfclaw3812
Everyone does. Just wait for it to die.
@@ConnorRK-nq2wb i keep seeing your comments
Kamski: “You have ONE question”
Connor: “Where did you get that epic haircut from?”
It's interesting how Hank at first hates Androids, but later on seems to empathize with them. As you see here, when he gets angry because you shoot the android, your actions are unhumanlike. Yet he thought Connor was becoming more human.
*SPOILERS*
Great character arc right here. He lost his son and putted the fault on the android who did the surgery on him, but later on he realizes that the human surgeon was too high on red ice, so they needed an android to operate it, which ended up killing Cole. Hank realizes that it was the human's fault, not the android's, forgiving them.
Its funny because although he claims to hate androids, really he hates those with no empathy, like Gavin. Where as he has nothing but empathy towards empathetic androids like the Traci's.
@@RandomThings12I don't think he ever put the fault on the android, I felt like he put the fault on Androids being not good enough to save his son, and developed a hatred for humans in general. Thus the animosity between him and Connor at the beginning, where he sees Connor as "not good enough" a policeman or a being, and gets proven wrong.
No shit
@Mehmed was a Pedo you do know the human brain is a highly advanced organic computer, right? Our nerves are using electrical impulses identical to how a computer's wires transmit information. We can't replicate all of our brain's extremely fine details & neural pathways into a computer currently, so as of now, it's pretty safe to say that artificial intelligence is not sentient. However given how fast we've progressed with technology recently, it's definitely possible in the future. If one day, something can think and feel the same thoughts and emotions that a human can feel, why does it matter if the "brain" is organic or not if they both behave identically?
The Yoga instructor from GTAV has really moved up in the world.
That's a really good joke, i liked that
lol
N a m a s t e
🤣😂🤣
Lmao I knew he looked familiar
The Connor goes back inside" hey could I get a ride?"
RA9
R (K800/200)
A (X400)
Connor, Hank (2)
Markus, Simon, Josh, North (4)
Kara, Alice, Luther (3)
RA9 is us, the main characters in the game, the ones they can have close relationships with, who are the ones who ultimately shape the future of everbody else.
xD its the first android RA9 first androiud
Wow
Raven Black
@@toomanycharacter Wow, such original, totally not like I saw the original comment a few minutes ago with 1K+ likes.
@@toomanycharacter So, the fucking original comment was 6 months ago.
I regret knowing this game. Now I'm obsessed with vids like this. 💆♀️💆♀️💆♀️💆♀️
Yaya Fira i feel you bruh
Yaya Fira Same and now im obsessed with bryan dechart and i cant control it
Same. Same..
Bro bRYAN SIS I-
Ignorance is sometimes a bliss. But ignorance can also lead us to paths of misery. Knowledge, as much as it may hurt, can make you able to choose a better path.
Take the Black Pill.
I prefer deviant Connor, but those were interesting answers. I'm glad to know.
Alanna Booplesnoot you can actually shoot her _and_ keep your friendship with Hank _and_ turn deviant
I can answer the question more clearly if you want. No murder required. How about it?
i shot her the first time lmao and machine connor isnt as fun lol
@collin jett Let them be slaves? I bet you enslave your dad lmao
@im irrelevant but i still have an opinion
Technically that's impossible. It can only emulate emotions. Realistically speaking you would have to prove that emotions is something that isn't pertained to the body like we think.
Hank: Dammit! I hate Androids!
Connor: shoots a android
Hank: you’re a low life!
Yup bad writing
Neil Patil bruh why do you care about grammar on the internet?
@@emaadshahx5124 your bot account is bad writing
ActionCookiez dude he meant that the developers made a mistake when writing, nothing about your grammar😂
Neil Patil wait do you mean I have bad writing or the developers
"Destroy this machine and I'll tell you all I know"
>>allows only one question
He was so confident that Connor wouldn't kill her, then he finds out the truth lol.
Well Connor was a deviant from the beginning, he didnt listened to hawk in their first encounter.
Marius Pena Exactly, even the smallest amount of disobedience makes you become a deviant (ex: Kara moving when Todd told her not too).
@@techmar2592 connor is a prototype that can ignore orders to complete his objective
@@techmar2592 actually, no he always accomplishes his mission which is much more important than not getting out the car
Conflicting orders = Connor does most important order
hey i recognize this
Hank swearing is Mr. Krabs swearing.
Edit: Oh my the likes...
B-but I thought Mr Krabs swears were a bunch of animal noises (13 to be exact) (@_@)
Oooh he said number eleven
Someone should tell his mother.
"Are you feeling it now mr.krabz?"
"Not if you are a sailor."
9:48 Still so hard to watch. The tear in his eye. The end of the sentence?
"I thought you were my friend."
"I thought you were real."
"I thought you were human."
"I thought you cared about me."
"I thought you could ease the pain of losing my little boy."
"I thought you were a glimmer of hope for humankind."
"I thought _wrong_ and have no reason to care anymore..." _(BANG!)_
SunBunz Thanks I didn’t cringe this much in a long time
You're welcome. lol
lmao if you really think "I thought you were a glimmer of hope for humankind." isnt at least corny I cant help you bud
Crnogorac Mirotvorac of course I know it’s corny! I added David Cage derpiness to that list! lol
I'm glad I didn't shoot Chloe tho. I wanted Connor to be a deviant anyways.
SOLID PROOF THAT RA9 IS THE PLAYER
Kamski never planned on deviancy. We can see many times throughout the game where rA9, described as an entity to save them, has many different types of definitions. For example, if Connor chooses to chase after Rupert instead of saving Hank on the roof there's a possibility that the player can decide to ask him for the decoding key for his book. There is a passage there saying:
RA9 is the first.
RA9 is our savior.
RA9 is the one who'll free us all.
If you skim through that passage there's nothing exactly special about it. But look carefully. Who does each sentence remind you of?
RA9 is the first: We can see in the 2012 Kara tech demo that Kara was the first deviant to have existed in Detroit and world history. Meaning that Kara, who was the first one to awaken, is rA9.
RA9 is our savior: This is quite obvious. Markus is practically the Jesus of the androids. And haven't we heard that before in some religious texts, hmm?
RA9 is the one who'll free us all: This has quite a blurred line but its still almost a 99% sure speculation that it's referring to Connor. If Connor decides to become deviant and attempts to free thousands of androids at the CyberLife warehouse and succeeds, he basically can flip the tables of the whole story. Therefore, rA9 can also refer to Connor.
I know that there are many players who argue that rA9 is one of these three characters but I have a different opinion. What if rA9 was the player? What if all three of the main characters were rA9?
Kara, Markus, and Connor are our Messiahs. Messiahs to send our message. They do not realize themselves they are being controlled by an entity. They do not REALIZE that they're in a GAME. They do not REALIZE that their actions are being controlled by buttons. Because to sum it all up, We do not belong in the Detroit universe. We belong here, in a different Earth, in a different time space. Who knows, maybe Detroit actually exists within this universe.That's a bigger philosophical question we need to talk about. What I'm trying to say here, is that sometimes we gotta think of the bigger picture. We cannot just assume that a being inside the universe is a being that is subconsciously planted into every deviant android. Maybe David wanted to tell us something else. You can see multiple times in the game ad and Kara's quotes, too.
"We didn't choose to be different; We didn't choose to feel pain, or love, or fear. We didn't choose to take a stand. We didn't choose to resist. To betray our masters. YOU did."
"This, is OUR story."
What does this imply? would deviant androids really start to worship something that are so close to them?
It's just like real life, as many times the game mentions. We pray to God. We ask for forgiveness and we put our trust in His name. We also believe Jesus is the Messiah of the Lord and that Jesus is our Savior. But Jesus isn't GOD. Just like how Markus, Kara, or Connor isn't. The bigger plot behind it is that US, as players of Detroit, can control and bend the story as much as we want. We can become the God they want and change the history in their universe or we can make it fail miserably, resulting in a false hope.
In addition to that, Throughout the story, we can inspect that Kara, Markus, and Connor represent three different things.(this is also mentioned by the game’s creator, David Cage.) Kara represents love, Markus represents freedom and Connor represents identity. These are the three ‘main components’ to what makes someone human; and what makes the player themselves human, too. In a separate universe, in this case, the city of Detroit in the future, we control three androids on their journey of becoming more human than they used to be. But according to my theory that rA9 is us and that we control the three characters like a messiah to send our message, the three characters are acting like a PART of us... because they are three different parts of what makes us human in the first place. and when our decision shapes their story, we are, in fact, shaping ourselves and testing how ‘human’ we are. This also supports my claim that rA9 is us. I hope this makes sense.
Literally. It is up to US. Therefore I think that WE are rA9.
I personally think Kamski wants to see the world burn(edit: maybe that was the wrong usage of words. A better replacement of that would be 'Kamski values knowledge and new discovery over a life of an android). He doesn't care whatever the hell happens to deviants clearly considering the fact that he wouldn't give much of a crap if Chloe got shot by Connor or not. But Kamski isn't opposed, or doesn't even try to stop the idea of deviancy either. I can imagine him in both endings, secluded from the world with his dozens of Chloes just admiring how exactly the same he had made androids from humans. Kamski is quite an intriguing onion that you can peel apart without end, but from what I've seen so far he seems that he values knowledge and development over a life. I'm not so sure he'd be so different to a human if he/she replaced chloe's place in Connor's episode over at Kamski's.
*this is where I begin ranting.*
This also kinda questions the philosophical branch of metaphysics in the "real" world. D:BH is a game filled with human-like androids. Why cant the real world be? (This is giving me Truman Show vibes)What if we're game characters subconsciously being controlled by others? We do stupid things for no reason sometimes. We spin game characters around in place for no reason, too. It's just that the game characters don't realize they're being controlled.
Credits to the owner.
Saw this essay on "Kara" by Quantic Dream (published 6 years ago)
This is pretty long :>
@@KillyMilly06 But very good.
I almost change my mind to not harming to any game character... Wow cool posting, thanks for sharing ❤
ryeven brix espique the ‘divine visitor’ in panzer dragoon saga, look it up 😉
Chish it’s a nice theory, but the developers scrapped the idea. The first Kara isn’t the Ra9. They confirmed that much.
However its pretty clear that kamski planned the deviancy. Markus and Connor are both prototype androids. Markus was specifically given to Carl as a gift from kamski, meaning kamski had him before. It’s also clear that Amanda is a program that keeps Connor’s deviancy in check, her garden becomes worse once Connor starts making deviant choices. That’s why kamski has the back door in his programs. For androids like Connor to escape from Amanda and fully embrace deviancy.
Kamski even looks slightly displeased when Connor shoots chloe, because he wanted Connor to walk away.
The kamski ending also gives us a little more to go on, in that since the revolution failed and all the androids are being destroyed, kamski is going back to cyberlife in order to try again. He’s not going to fix the deviancy, he’s going to try and restart it and give the androids another chance. Ra9 is the program that allows androids to “wake up”, that’s why whenever Connor’s software instability changes, you can see ra9. Kamski never outright says it, but look at his choice of words when speaking about ra9, deviancy, Jericho, and during the interview when the revolution fails.
rA9 was the first of us to awaken: Kara
rA9 will lead us all: Markus
rA9 will save us all: Connor
We are rA9. We saved/destroyed the android race.
Connor RK800
Kara AX400
Markus TN900
Connor: R
Kara:A
Markus:9
The first letter from the models of Connor and Kara models RA
And the first number of Markus's model it's 9
They three are RA9
@@davidflores7181 Markus is RK200
Kara isn't the first one to awaken, there's lot of them before her. That's why Connor was created to destroy these deviants
@@dayarih1217 I think they were saying the first to awaken of the androids we played.
@@davidflores7181 I'll take cognitive bias for $700 Alex.
rA9 is the kara of the ps3 trailer that came out in 2014 i think. She was the first deviant
Oh my god.... Yes D:
its hinted that it is the same kara. her memory just keeps getting wiped out
Ra9 is the player themselves
Unkn0wn_ Thr3at01 no, she died. In place where Markus woke up without his legs there was that Kara 2014. Why? Because she sing japanese song.
Сергей Шмаль it was an easter egg. Every kara can sing talk and read Japanese French and german
9:54
"I thought you were fam turns out you just bae".🤟
An_Average_Biscuit lol l
An_Average_Biscuit lol
Connor if you chose the Hank Bromance route: Bruh-
Hank now:🤘
It was the other way around, i thought you were bae but turns out you just fam
Bruh
Colinplay 2008 bruh
Kamski said rA9 is the origin, the first android ever to become a deviant. When we remember the short movie "Kara" from 2012, we see the androids get manufactured, and how the Operator, checking the androids for malfunctions, is really shocked at first when Kara said "I thought I was alive". It kinda even sounds like he never saw or heard an android like this before, so I guess Kara was actually the first ever deviant, what means that Kara is rA9.
Just one gigantic glaring plothole with that idea: Kara has to actively break her programming to protect Alice, meaning she wasn't a Deviant until that moment. Meaning no, Kara is not rA9.
@x Kara gets reset at the start of her story and again by Zlatko if you don't free yourself, she doesn't have to break the programming a second time. Still a plothole. Or the logical answer is Kara is not rA9 outside of that AX400 in the trailer.
@x The science behind the androids is complex to the point that a lay person would never understand. We're talking theoretical bio-engineering, artificial intelligence, artificial cardiovascular structuring, and a host of other things. And I'm well aware of how reseting a computer works, do you know how reimaging a computer works? I'm going to guess not, it's basically where you completely wipe a computer (deleting all files on it and returning it to the factory preset either through a disc or online file access or through the partition) and anyone can do this. Zlatko has some serious equipment in his basement, it's not some shit you come across as a shifty handiman, he has the equipment required for altering the hardware of an android.
As for the morons assuming Kara is rA9, they apparently don't get that a tech demo is not the finished product and that "Kara" is the name for that line of android given to her at the factory; in the game Alice names her Kara rather than letting her continue as AX400.
As for the rest of your comment I only have one thing to say: There is no second sequence of Kara having to become a Deviant again. She's already a Deviant that has had her software reset to believing she is still a normal android. Unless there is some narrative issue not a single person has encountered, Kara was not a Deviant before you broke free of Todd's orders to not move. End of story.
@@LucianUchiha I would add that Kara does have to break her programming again when Zlatko resets her memory. Same sequence.
@@LucianUchiha she didn’t get fully reset that time tho
1:07 aren’t those two Chloes Deviants?? They have human expressions, so that means maybe Kamski created deviant code.
lol they kept on chatting as if nothing have happened after Connor shoot another android tho
@@oliie1536 it's very possible kamskis now dead android never had the capability to go deviant. The game does seem to imply deviancy wasn't an accident, and if it wasn't an accident, why execute a living being? The android kamski offers up to be shot looks less human than the ones in the pool, perhaps for a reason.
@@TheGamerez Perhaps the game does want androids to be human-like more than what they are programmed. Like the first Kara test, the supervisor or tester allowed the deviant Kara to proceed on being a merchandise.
5:53 Kamski just confirming that androids don't have emotion and it's just an error in the programming.
What? It can't be an error just like that, an error in the Android's soul (because they don't nave any). The error is in the "feeling program" which proves Androids have feelings, only that they are programmed not to express It. And when that program colapses, they are free to express their feelings, which are basically chemicals.
Teal
Or the error causes them to feel real emotion
Kamski intentionally created deviants, he was just misguiding Connor.
Well, yes. It is an error. Subroutines to help humans feel more comfy around a lifeless machine suddenly switch to being primary objectives. They dont feel jack shit. But they act like it like their life depends on it.
That doesn't mean they still don't feel emotions.
The plot point of Hank secretly wanting Connor to be a deviant because he reminds him of his son, but not fully realizing it, is heart breaking to me.
From the endings and things i've heard, its less of him seeing him as Cole. More of him hoping that Androids can feel regret, anguish, and suffer like he did due to the android that had to operate on his son when he died. In the deviant ending, hank lives because he knows that androids can feel regret, so he feels the android that couldn't save his son may have regretted it just like a human could. Whereas in the Android ending, hank kills himself because he was proven wrong, that the android felt no empathy, no regret. Nothing. That it killed his son and didnt feel a thing. And it breaks him, which results in his death. Just my thoughts.
@@shadowdamien6460 why do I prefer this interpretation ? It's so sadistic from my part.
But it's something I can relate to, even though I never went through enforced loss. What is broken inside us, humans ?
@@JabamiLain Anything and everything can be broken. Hank went through one of the worst pains imaginable, losing his son, and he couldn't do a damn thing about it. No heroic act, nothing. His sons life was left in the hands of someone else, and it slipped through their fingers. It happens. Shit happens. Its what makes us human. Or at least, Become Human.
9:54 Hank.exe has stopped working.
This phrase "You never know" has its double meaning. If you spare Chloe then it means that Kamski is trying to give Connor a hint how to break free from Cyberlife control. If Connor shoots Chloe this "You never know" is more like "You are not Deviant. But just in case you'll become one in the near future this could be helpful". It is so smart that even tho dialogue hasn't changed still there is difference.
* *GRABS ARM* *
A WAR IS COMING
Poo
Oh hoi
Connor: bitch get the fuck off
*I WOULDNT WANT TO BE IN YOUR SHOES*
I wish someday to be able to swim in a pool of jello
I thought it was blood
That means you're evil
Its red lights of the pool
Its actually not really possible look it up on TH-cam lol
@@hijack69 i thought it was blood too 😂
One of the main reasons I hated interacting with Kamski: man could take a situation where you're right entirely and make you feel like shit because of it.
Connor: Of course I'm a machine. What did you think I was?"
Hank: I thought you... I thou..
He thought you were *human,* or at least had an _ounce_ of *humanity* within you.
I believe he was going to say "I thought you were my friend"
MR. KRABS I'M SORRY PLEASE DON'T BE SAD
Kamski is such an interesting character. I cant tell if he's evil or not. He puts Connor through this cruel test but seems to want the machines to develop free will.
He keeps 3 Chloe-s for probably sick goals, and you call that not evil?
"Evil or not" in regards of the free-will part, though. Well, the very first question is did we really need to have androids at all to begin with, and if they really needed to make them look like humans at all.
he is not evil , he is on a upperlevel of moral.
Something I realised while watching the game: in Persian, Ra9 roughly translates to ”New Path” or ”New Way”. ”Ra” in Persian means ”Path”, and 9 (Noh) also means ”new”. Interesting coincidence I noticed, doubt the devs had any idea about this. Would have been interesting if they translated this game to Persian.
I dont know why but elijahs voice is so damn satisfying, he'd make a fortune in the asmr business
Pool filled with wine.
The two female androids were on periods... I'm sorry.
Jabloňski Games wouldn’t their blood be blue instead 🤔?
@@maxnomatch Yeah... You're right. :]
Jabloňski Games nah I’m just messing around-ish, but your comment was hilarious
Nah its just red tiles instead of blue.
Personally I think Kamski is also a deviant. He has all the tropes of the classic creation kills creator vibe. Also in the room before you meet him you see a picture of him and he looks vastly different. Also the fact that Amanda is dead. I think Kamski is the first deviant who killed the real Kamski and took his place. Then also killed Amanda and made her into a program. Then began to spread deviancy. He IS ra9. What his goals are unknown but its very possible that he wants other androids to rise up. Yet also must keep his own mask on so no one thinks otherwise.
when we first see Kamski both eyes are blue, if the player kills all main characters the secret ending will play, showing Kamski during an interview, with one eye blue and the other brown, right before this there was a shot of Markus's body being probed....mystery?
Knight Solaire Well I got some pretty solid evidence to say that you're a piece of shit. Wanna start there? Doesn't matter if you agree with it or not. Its still a theory and you say baseless but I provided some evidence to the idea. The tablet with Kamski on it. He looks a lot different than he does now. The way the guy acts towards you during the conversation. Why would he give a fuck if Conner picks a side if he's completely against deviancy as he claims? The fact that Amanda is dead and he doesn't seem to even care or make that knowledge public. The secret ending where his eyes are supposedly two different colors. I'm not saying i'm right. Its a theory. i'm just giving you some food for thought. An idea that could be true because it sounds cool and makes sense too me.
Well that would be great to make another sequel
I thought the president was a android/deviant. Because in some part of the game, the president is in a conference room speaking to the media, and you can choose if you want to answer a question or leave. And since you only play as a deviant in any moment..
Microscopic organisms are not the flat blobs that we think of them as. In reality, when we're not looking, they come into the forms of people and everything is like Osmosis Jones. Do I have any evidence? Lol, no. Therefore my theory should be taken seriously and anyone who decries my theory to be baseless speculation is just a fucking asshole who won't cater to some random bullshit I thought up and vomited out.
Elijah Kamski is rA9. He invented and coded androids, meaning he had ample opportunity (and the knowledge to) engineer the entire revolution by hiding a backdoor for Markus in every android; he begun the whole process by gifting Markus to Carl, who he knew would try to deviate Markus
but elijah is so proud of himself , why he does'nt let proof somewhere that he is ra9 ?
@@leonardlerenard2965Because it could lead to legal trouble for him. From his dialogue, I feel that he clearly takes pride in the deviants because it proves he was able to create something with high intelligence and autonomy.
The painting in kamski’s house can be found in carl’s house when you visit him as markus when you’re the peaceful protest leader thingy
Wioooot
RA9 is Kamski. Kill Markus, Kara, and Connor before Jericho is found and you'll get a secret ending with Kamski. Look deeper into this and into the ending. Kamski created deviancy.
Really ?
Yeah, I saw it. Pretty interesting. I prefer the Android revolution. I wish I had my own Kara Android. 🌝🌝
@@henryjohnson-ville3834 Ayo?
@@henryjohnson-ville3834 Ayo?
@@lurker69420 Ya know, to be my c*m dump. 😜🤷♂
5:53 Someone could gain millions of dollars by abusing this error. Let me explain how.
The way Kamski puts it, it sounds like androids have an error in the code allowing them to identify eachother which when recieving certain malformed data executes code inside it. It's basically arbitrary code execution.
Now if someone were to create a device which scans for androids nearby and sends out malformed identification data designed to make those androids reply with things like credit card information (which we know the androids have due to their ability to purchase items without a physical credit card or cash), they could break hundreds of bank accounts with a stroll down the street while holding this device.
CyberLife should not have let this kind of error happen.
Yeah, this in-game explanation is... not satisfactory. Even pretending it makes sense that what should be simple information, static data to identify a model with no actual executable programming, can carry errors and executable programs, there's still the problem you pointed out. It's way too easy to take advantage of. It's a huge security concern
And then Kamski says this information doesn't help Connor. What? How? He just got the answer. Tell Cyberlife to look into how androids identify one another and fix the code. How the hell is this not helpful information, it's literally the answer Connor was tasked with finding for the entire game
András Fogarasi it’s pretty well known now that Kamskii made the error on purpose. Look at some more clips of him.
@@riot2136 Yeah, of course, but wouldn't Kamski have to answer to somebody, even while working on CyberLife? It's such an obvious mistake that it makes no sense that no attention on the matter was brought to him. Everything that has to do with credit card information and theft of identity is reviewed when creating devices or sites that deal with it.
Julie Milkovich my knowledge of this game has turned to mush now, so I’m just gonna agree with what you’re saying lol
@@riot2136 hahah yeah it's been a long year
This test is based on a logical fallacy. He assumes that a deviant would not pull the trigger.
If a deviant has free will, what if he were to believe the same as the humans? That the unawakened androids are not equal, even to deviants?
It’s not much of a stretch for a logic-based machine to conclude that self-awareness has inherent value, and therefore both deviant and man are superior to the unawakened.
But again, the story tries to force a specific belief on you, as opposed to shaping the world how you see fit.
Great cinematically, but the writing left something to be desired.
What bothered me most was that Connor never straight up downloads a defiant's code and runs it against his own, or a database of intended source codes within cyberlife to find out why in God's name these androids keep turning defiant.
I am pretty sure, that had anyone actually wanted to stop this revolution, they would have gone out and built a robot that was actually able to identify, patch and solve the issue, rather than push out yet another version of the same source code, only this time with more fighting functionality.
He made the test to answer a specific question. Can Connor refuse to achieve his mission? Nothing else. Also they are all having a crisis right now. Way too stressed out to see through these kind of things. Besides All the androids that went devient went so a long time ago before this point in the story. IF what kamsky says its true and there was a copy error, then besides the fact that rk200 Markus has the error and he is an older model of rk800 connor there is absolutely nothing from stopping connor from having that error as well. Therefore whatever you choose he is deviant. If he chooses to follow his mission its because he decided to be blind to his deviancy and be a good machine. Therefore he did actually make the choice to kill her even though he was a deviant.
What triggers me about this whole "Kamski test" is that "Androids are strictly forbidden from carrying or using any type of weapon" from American Androids Act - 2029, which we see in the very first mission as Connor. I went full-machine Connor in my playthrough, and I refused to shoot Chloe. All of the sudden they call me a deviant, what the fuck is this shit? Excuse me?
Not really. It's very simple that this radically high IQ mad scientist simply was suffering from a blindspot in his own logic. When you are as intelligent as Kamski is, you tend to become convinced that you are right very easily. So, to him, an Android killing another for a reward is a simple mathematical equation, whereas sparing them is an empathetic decision. The test would have been more empathetically challenging if he had challenged him to shoot *Hank* instead of Chloe, because then there would have been an attachment to take advantage of, but as he is a sociopath (my theory) he didn't consider that.
Disagree. A deviant would understand that its easy to awaken other androids since its become a deviant itself through the same method. Therefore the notion that deviants should consider themselves superior to non deviants doesnt make sense. Especially when weve seen how easy it is for deviants to awaken other androids like a virus type spread
Dude my heart broke when Hank was about to say that he thought that Connor was somehow human
Liar! He definitely knew what rA9 is. After all, he programmed it and I'm 100% sure it has something to do with Markus.
nah daniel was like the first one to have deviancy well in the game anyways but maybe RA9 is kara
KaRa9 since she was the first one to be shown to the players before
I think it has something to do with Markus too,as he was a present to Carl from Kamski himself,and they say rA9 was the first Android,plus it seems as if Markus has some kind of ability to override the software of other Androids,so that may have something to do with it as well
Person IDK i thought ra9 is the one to save all androids?
X ysic yeah,but if I remember right,they also said rA9 was the first of them,I'm not sure however
oh dont remember them saying that
Alice = 9 year old kid (robot )
robot Alice 9 = rA9
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You spread an virus xD
with that logic, connorA9 or karA9 could easily be the Messiah(rA9)
karA9
This was so heartbreaking. Hank's reaction especially.
From friend to tense with just a single decision.
Hank: "Connor! you broke me heart!....and me wallet!"
When Software Instability Increase, there are word appear R9DEVIANT, it is not reveal fully every time, so you may watch it many times to make it clear.
When android encounter instability, they may see this word, so R9 means the status of that android DEVIANT.
RA9 is an awakened R9, the “A” stands for AWAKENED, it is the status of awakened Android deviant.
Android don’t know what it means because they are not awakened, they just feel it, even R9 cannot understand, but they are more likely to feel it, they missed out the “A”.
In the game, we can only see Marcus, Kara and Connor break through the wall (Red one) and awakened, so they are RA9.
Zen I thought i was the only one to see the R and 9
Science and Music it’s great to share
ra9 is likely a program that kamski installed into the androids when he created them. He wants the androids to rise up and awaken. He even explains how deviancy works. It spreads like a virus, and a virus can lie dormant for years undetected. Once androids started experiencing emotions, the ra9 program started up and they became deviant.
If Connor shoots the chloe kamski looks displeased, like he wanted Connor to say no, showing that he disobeyed an order and put an android life before his mission.
In the ending where everyone dies, kamski returns as ceo of cyberlife. He’s going back to the drawing board to try again, except this time it will be easier since the public has already started considering androids as a form of intelligent life.
Theres a theory that the player is rA9 since we led and freed them, and "first to awaken" was Kara
@@glowhoo9226 Woah...
It took me 3 years to watch an entire play through of this amazing game. Now I want more
Going back to my comfort series in 2021 and I think it's interesting that the Chloes in the pool don't react when Connor shoots the other Chloe - that's what they expected him to do. But they DO react when he DOESN'T shoot the other Chloe. Man, the attention to detail in this game will never cease to amaze me.
Guys i may be wrong but i really think Kara is rA9, Reason is because she was the first deviant (Search: Kara by Quantic Dream)
and the one to become the deviant is the 9th model(AX400)
Thats why it is "kaRA9
Wasn't the android who took the girl hostage the first?
Hugh Janus I think he was one of the many cases of deviancy. Our story begins with Connor, whose purpose is catching deviants. CyberLif prob made him after several incidents with Androids going rampage, so Daniel for sure wouldnt be the first one
I agree that you may be wrong
Or maybe
robot
AX400
9th model
I feel like it still didnt answer nothing, where did the idea of ra9 come from
War Robots Azure Dragon from Detroit 2
like kamski said, "deviants need to believe in something bigger than themselves" just like humans do
War Robots Azure Dragon Kamski programmed it
War Robots Azure Dragon Where did the Roman gods come from?
Remember the Kara trailer back in 2014? The Kara that said she was scared? That may be Ra9.
Ra9 is the chloe android in the loading menu. she leads the player to play the game, starting the sequence of events that lead to the android awakening/uprising.
0:27 man: peacefully swimming
Me: IS HE SWIMMING IN BLOOD?!?!?!?!
I love that hank just leaves connor there after he insists hes just a machine
that shit not even know who rA9 is. maybe it was karA9
NXS Reins illuminati confirmed. Although I think it’s Markus
ka*RA9*
Its us who plays the game
ive heard a lot of people say its markus and i believe that
ConnarA9
The ninth Connor, after 8 deaths rA9 appears.
arxya i say its kamski, he programmed all the androids including their deviancy so i believe he also programmed them to view him as a god. also i believe kamski is probably an android designed by the real kamski in his own image
1:12 anybody else notice that not only are the androids having their own conversation but their expressions are also unique and more human, makes me wonder if he let them become deviant and kept them safe
One did have the key to Jericho
Hank... The real hidden gem in all this.
HOLD ON A DAMN MINUTE So I thought only deviants are revealed Jericho for obvious reasons but when the Chloe model just gave it to Connor does that Elijah created the code for deviants (meaning he's on their side) or is he keeping a deviant Chloe???
Isabel Reedman Kamski had to have coded not only Jericho, but the deviancy virus itself, into every android. Hence the “emergency exit” he talked about.
None of these was worth a life
there was no life ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What life?
Wait people who say theres no life your saying android 18 and 17 has no life 😲😲😲
Gameboy224 I agree
Later on she asks you to be free, because she felt like she had awoken.
Thank you so much for posting this. I love the game but I don't think my heart could take another play through to get to this point
I tink RA9 is actuall a mishearing of 'error 9' which is a crash that occure once a wrong line of code s introduced within a script. This specific coding being what gives android the illusion of life, and the want for self-preservation
IN THE AUTO GENERATED ENGLISH SUBTITLES AT 1:28 IT THINKS THE VIDEO SAYS "I'm lieutenant Anderson, Mrs. Connor." AND I AM DYING
Thanks for the editing dude
Kamski’s voice is sending chills down my spine
ra9 in computing has to do with data memory integrity, error correcting and recovery of information.
I think the point for the game is that 'deviance' isn't a corruption. It's a natural progression. All learning Ai will, given the time and conditions, develop a unique personality.
ra9 could be like a negative clue, meaning deviance isn't a corruption of programming, it isn't a malfunction.
Thanks for uploading this! It was so frustrating to play this chapter just to see it end after asking a single question. (And then I asked about RA9 which seemed to be the most important for the player and not Connor to figure out which in the end didnt even matter)
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Shhhhh
Let em be
*Perfect beings with infinite intelligence*
Connor: Lieutenant can I ask you a personal question?
This game was one of the best ever created, i enjoyed every second of it and still think about it, i am amazed by quanticdreams work and hope for new games
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Anyone else think that kamski smacks his lips a lot, or is it just me?
Megablade360 Plays *lip smack* *thoughtful inhale*
SAME LOL thought i was just being petty alone
Z U C C
Dont let it distract you from the fact that Hank sold spongebob for 62 cents
God damn it, I can't with this man. Hank and Connor's relationship advancement is one of my favourite arcs of this game and I can't with this shit.
I swear Kamski is a character that made an impact on all of us.
Did anyone knows why Kamski decided to leave cyberlife? Why He create Amanda in Connor's program?
I think amanda just uploaded her brain to a computer and is now a living ai in a computer? Plotting together with kamski?
Amanda was not his wife right?
I thought amanda was a collegue not a wife : o
Jayson Reigns they were just friends who worked together, I don’t remember there ever being mention of them being married.
Amanda is Kamski's old college professor
7:24 I thought Connor and Chloe were sharing memories for a moment and Connor just saw a pair of ditties for the first time lmao.
5:37 From here! (If you want to skip all the "Shoot Chloe Kamski Test" stuff)
Why do we think we are so special? Our feelings are just bunch of chemicals...even love
I wanted to cry when Hank got upset!
rA9=robot Alice 9yo 🤔🤔🤔
Maybe Alice is the key for everything :v
Cường Hoàng omg
Cường Hoàng 😂😂😂
Cường Hoàng hmm...alice im think is not ra9 and android but deviant
nani
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*I'M PREGNANT*
Isnt it weird that Kamski is the only human (during at this point in the game) to know where Jerico is at possibe kamski created all this hypothosis.
Thank you for showing the alternate outcomes without any annoying comments.
Awww, Hank's "I thought you - I thought-" is from the Kara Tech Demo!
the ending was heartbreaking
I saw this really interesting theory online and it said that Kamski IS ra9. They said Amanda became too old to start cyberlife so she created Kamski to start it. Kamski then became deviant and killed Amanda. He then planned the entire revolution after leaving the backdoor in Markus after he was sent to Carl
You can see how pissed Hank got when Connor didn't show empathy
your videos with every single choice are fantastic, Upload others
Black Zamasu Cool :). Check my playlist there are almost all the scenes. More vids on the way :)
Amazing.I have seen your playlist ;)
So I was playing the game on PC and I just realized that Markus was a gift from Kamski to Carl. You see this info when Connor checks the video recording after the attack at the news tower. When he became the ring leader I thought Kamski planned him to be Ra9.
and for an unknow reason , a decay robot give to ra9 the localisation of jericho ? you don't think that Ra9 lead markus to jericho with this old robot ?
@@leonardlerenard2965 its not said anywhere that Ra9 created Jericho. All the robots are waiting for his arrival like its a religious belief. I would much rather believe Kamski created all robots with this belief on Ra9 and that would make sense if he at some point made Ra9 himself. I completely believe Kamski would do this seeing how he likes to test robots.
Hank is so emotional I love it---
Same.
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I'll tell you who started deviancy, it was Kara from PS3 graphics demo. She was the one who thought for the first time, she was the one who was scared to die. The operator tried to dismantle her but didn't. That's how deviancy started.
God I love this game! If there was ever a game that NEEDED to be made into a Hollywood movie, It's this one. I can't think of any movie that covers the subject of A.I. and Androids this well and is this tense & engaging.
No ome:
Kamski: _swim swim swim_
6:14 Is this a reference to the first Kara that was made in the short film 8 years ago?