This seems all the way messed up. First taking a man's sperm postmortem without his consent and then deciding to purposefully bring a child into this world without a father.
On the contrary, these people (Ludmilla, Baruch, and the others) are doing much more than just cope, they are building a future, and providing a legacy for the fallen soldier. Somehow it is very appropriate that this advance comes from Israel. I hope that Amit indeed becomes a father like German, and his own father sees it. Surely all of us can be encouraged by this.
@@lobotobot154 The nobility lies in the parents striving to make their slain offspring the roots of a new generation. War is wrong, but its wrongness does not erase the rightness of what the parents are trying to do.
Single women all over the world use sperm banks to have children all the time. Those children also do not have their actual father in their lives. The women who choose this have to have the right support system. At least this comes with a ready made support system from the grandparent. But I do agree that they should have the consent of the fathers. Which is what this law is about.
But that's just it, it's impossible to get consent from babies on whether they would want to live or not. It's like a moral loophole. The worst part about this is that it's universal. Some little few may have the luxury of not needing to think about this question for their entire life, but for the unlucky others (arguably the majority of humanity) that's simply not the case, especially those who are raised in tough environment. On a side note, I'd say if we don't get to choose whether we would want to live or not on our birth, we should at least have the right to choose when to end our lives.
Wouldn't it be more prudent to simply take samples and freeze then BEFORE the problem occurs ? From a historical perspective this is a normal, logical response to a dangerous world. Maybe it should be mandatory for all soldiers to provide samples before going into service ?????
@@stizanley3987 less traumatic AND cheaper. ownership of the "sample" is worked out there and then. No operations, cuts out the surgeons AND the lawyers.
At some point that the daughter will ask her mother why didn't you find a man that was alive? I have a feeling it's a strange set of rules, laws, and patriotic beliefs that are not based on love between a woman and man but on selfishness of an individual. Parents being bitter that they won't be grandparents. And using the death of their son (interestingly there was no opinion if a servicewomen dies what happens to her eggs in this discussion) as a means to solve their problem.
@@bittersweet340 taking a dead man's sperm without his permission And then raising a child in a single parent family Are you living in the twilight zone??? Abomination
@@digitaltechnologyunion4040 Still no evidence to support ur claims.. Interesting to note this is a different culture, and beliefs which are not customs from the rest of the world... secondly u are relating ur personal circumstances which I justify with you, But they did highlight that she was not raising her daughter alone. however if you going to slander by the using the word Abomination then there should be biblical account...
So much hate in the comments here. As long as the children and the parents/grandparents are happy, why would you deprive them of this love and happiness?
The children are not happy though. They don’t even understand what’s happening. They’re born and immediately told their father didn’t even know they’d ever exist. “lol”.
now this is troubling, how can anyone accept this from a dead. why not do it while alive as a collateral? am guessing that the dead would disapprove of this while alive so they just wait until death. utter disgusting and irksome
If I'm not mistaken, the reason stems from cultural value in bloodlines and legacies. My argument to being born without a father, the grandfather would simply fill that role. I think the lady that introduced this is doing so for the wrong reason though.
Seriously , what??? Is this happening there? What more tp expect .. And i feel pity for girls who marry a dead soldier to become mother of an alreadt orphaned child. Can't she marry to some new guy of her choice. Even if she is in alliance during death, there could be a way to allow her marry again after sometime.
Wow! Postmortem Sperm Extraction! I never heard of this, yet they have been doing it for a long time! It seems so strange, but I think I can understand why they do it. When a young fit married man is killed while protecting his country, it makes sense that his widow will deeply desire the opportunity to have a family even after her loss. This is amazing!
It's an extreme military society so in that context The offspring becomes an extension of the military just as much if not more than it becomes a family member
A part of me really wants the law to pass, casue at the end of the day, people who want this only want to pass on that energy in form of love to the offsprings Also this situation is unique due to the history of isreal and what they stand for, I really don't get why people are bring thier American version of family unto this, not everyone grows up in a place where family breakup, divorce and neglect of parents is the norm, some of us were brought up by single parent and we are doing very fine. At the end of the day, it isn't your decision
Having your child as a gift of your loving partner who is no longer alive is such a blessing ❤️ Also bloodline is a real thing to us than most Americans
What matters her is the wish of next of kin, especially when person didn’t leave living will. It’s great that society providing such option to the family of the victims
@@nissontillim2476 Apartheid: 1. (South Africa, historical) The policy of racial separation used by South Africa from 1948 to 1990. 2. (by extension) Any similar policy of racial separation/segregation and discrimination. 3.( by extension) A policy or situation of segregation based on some specified attribute.
@@justinpower8232 Palestinians govern themselves. In the west bank they are governed by the correct PA. In Gaza by the terrorist Hamas. How is that apartheid?
This seems all the way messed up. First taking a man's sperm postmortem without his consent and then deciding to purposefully bring a child into this world without a father.
biblically the body goes back to the family...
@@bittersweet340 and in reality you're creating broken families
How do u take consent from the dead?
@@adarshkumar-ln1hm That’s why the practice should be outlawed because the man can’t consent.
Worst case of denial and not coping with death ever.
Strange when it's religious people who do it
On the contrary, these people (Ludmilla, Baruch, and the others) are doing much more than just cope, they are building a future, and providing a legacy for the fallen soldier. Somehow it is very appropriate that this advance comes from Israel. I hope that Amit indeed becomes a father like German, and his own father sees it. Surely all of us can be encouraged by this.
@@lobotobot154 The nobility lies in the parents striving to make their slain offspring the roots of a new generation. War is wrong, but its wrongness does not erase the rightness of what the parents are trying to do.
Is it coincidental that antisemitism is at an all time high and this practice is advanced by Israel and people are so insanely critical?
This is disturbing
Dead men tell no tales but can father a child with women they never met.
What an idea...🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
Live Long, you cannot understand, it's not a "dead man", this is a Hero, who give his young life for the cherished country, Israel
@@rachelbass1111 AKA dead men fathering a child with women they never met. Exactly as I said it.
Single women all over the world use sperm banks to have children all the time. Those children also do not have their actual father in their lives. The women who choose this have to have the right support system. At least this comes with a ready made support system from the grandparent.
But I do agree that they should have the consent of the fathers. Which is what this law is about.
Real "we must preserve the future for our children vibes"
Well this is just crazy, shouldn't one remarry and find a way to move on and perhaps the kid would have a both parents love rather than just one?
as a former child I wanted a rich parent rather than both parents
guess what?
life isn't fair, deal with it.
Have you even watched the document? How can someone who died without a spouse remarry?
The child deserves a father. How sad that people put their own feelings above the perspective child's.
Theres nothing wrong with that bill... israel advocates for marriage between same sex, but this is wrong? Smh
@@Omar20v how is this related..??
Nobody should even try to understand the loss of a young soldier in Israel. Let memory of him live forever! Amin!🙏✡️
This is appalling on so many levels
That's crazy. What about consent? What about the child?
Israelis dont understand consent
But that's just it, it's impossible to get consent from babies on whether they would want to live or not. It's like a moral loophole.
The worst part about this is that it's universal. Some little few may have the luxury of not needing to think about this question for their entire life, but for the unlucky others (arguably the majority of humanity) that's simply not the case, especially those who are raised in tough environment.
On a side note, I'd say if we don't get to choose whether we would want to live or not on our birth, we should at least have the right to choose when to end our lives.
Israel has a 99% circ. rate.
The last thing that they care about is the child.
Why not have all the military men just give a sample enlisting? Seems like a mutilation of last resort, totally unnecessary
Exactly my thoughts.
For the ones who think it's important that his bloodline remains after his death, Donate your sperm before you go to battle.
Who will pay for it?
@@slavakulishko3771 for what? The sample? The government
sorry this is messed up
Wouldn't it be more prudent to simply take samples and freeze then BEFORE the problem occurs ?
From a historical perspective this is a normal, logical response to a dangerous world.
Maybe it should be mandatory for all soldiers to provide samples before going into service ?????
Lol, that would be so much easier and probably cheaper. Why have they not thought of that?
@@stizanley3987 less traumatic AND cheaper. ownership of the "sample" is worked out there and then. No operations, cuts out the surgeons AND the lawyers.
nice plan
genius
@@avinashshetty5963 I'm an ideas man
This is wrong on so many levels.
That's disturbing. Why not find a living one
I don't think so read ur bible! 😵💫
@DBLOCK_JS BRD2021 All thee above
The olde Yiddish proverb which is have a son, plant a tree and write a book, this is clearly about legacy.
👍🙏✡️
Does anyone have clue about woman who died during uniform service? 🤔
zero consent whatsoever 😟
At some point that the daughter will ask her mother why didn't you find a man that was alive? I have a feeling it's a strange set of rules, laws, and patriotic beliefs that are not based on love between a woman and man but on selfishness of an individual. Parents being bitter that they won't be grandparents. And using the death of their son (interestingly there was no opinion if a servicewomen dies what happens to her eggs in this discussion) as a means to solve their problem.
Divine Love
WOW...Crazy
I am all for this. 100 %. India should do it too.
Israel has the money and India doesn’t.
These guys clearly didn’t read Malazan
Do you really want children to live in an endless war? When will this cycle end?
Israelis are full of hope. Sholom Israel, the home of Semits!
What about preserving women soldiers' eggs????
Imagine countless of angry kids with dead fathers, what could go wrong?
This sounds like the first part of some future war criminal's tragic backstory.
I actually think this is perfectly logical.
Something being logical doesn't make it right. Eugenics is logical. Is it right?
Crocodiles tears
How many innocent children these dead soldiers killed? Just last week.
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This is wrong an abomination
Wheres ur evidence to suggest this is an abomination?
@@bittersweet340 taking a dead persons dperm without their consent raising a child I'm a single parent family
It's a disgrace
@@bittersweet340 taking a dead man's sperm without his permission
And then raising a child in a single parent family
Are you living in the twilight zone???
Abomination
@@digitaltechnologyunion4040 Still no evidence to support ur claims.. Interesting to note this is a different culture, and beliefs which are not customs from the rest of the world... secondly u are relating ur personal circumstances which I justify with you, But they did highlight that she was not raising her daughter alone. however if you going to slander by the using the word Abomination then there should be biblical account...
Oh Pandora… fs wow
6:15
A crimean man named German....in Israel...in ISRAEL!!!!
P.S - I just wanted to add humour to such a topic 👍
Was this supposed to make me feel sorry for these people? lmao
So much hate in the comments here. As long as the children and the parents/grandparents are happy, why would you deprive them of this love and happiness?
The children are not happy though. They don’t even understand what’s happening. They’re born and immediately told their father didn’t even know they’d ever exist. “lol”.
now this is troubling, how can anyone accept this from a dead. why not do it while alive as a collateral? am guessing that the dead would disapprove of this while alive so they just wait until death. utter disgusting and irksome
Why not?
If I'm not mistaken, the reason stems from cultural value in bloodlines and legacies. My argument to being born without a father, the grandfather would simply fill that role.
I think the lady that introduced this is doing so for the wrong reason though.
😢
Seriously , what???
Is this happening there?
What more tp expect ..
And i feel pity for girls who marry a dead soldier to become mother of an alreadt orphaned child.
Can't she marry to some new guy of her choice.
Even if she is in alliance during death, there could be a way to allow her marry again after sometime.
Hopefully the war will end.
Wow! Postmortem Sperm Extraction! I never heard of this, yet they have been doing it for a long time! It seems so strange, but I think I can understand why they do it. When a young fit married man is killed while protecting his country, it makes sense that his widow will deeply desire the opportunity to have a family even after her loss. This is amazing!
yall talking but America is on the same path, if not worse... atleast theyre keeping it in the family here.
It's an extreme military society so in that context The offspring becomes an extension of the military just as much if not more than it becomes a family member
This is just weird!
It is weird to you, not to a parent of a killed young son.✡️🙏
If you think that’s weird wait till you find out that they practice infant circumcision.
בראשית יב:3
גרסת קינג ג'יימס
3 ואברך את המברכים אותך וקללל את המקללך ובך יתברכו כל משפחות הארץ.
Hell no.
A part of me really wants the law to pass, casue at the end of the day, people who want this only want to pass on that energy in form of love to the offsprings
Also this situation is unique due to the history of isreal and what they stand for, I really don't get why people are bring thier American version of family unto this, not everyone grows up in a place where family breakup, divorce and neglect of parents is the norm, some of us were brought up by single parent and we are doing very fine. At the end of the day, it isn't your decision
Having your child as a gift of your loving partner who is no longer alive is such a blessing ❤️
Also bloodline is a real thing to us than most Americans
What matters her is the wish of next of kin, especially when person didn’t leave living will. It’s great that society providing such option to the family of the victims
Very touching story, I'm very happy for the families of the fallen if they are able to succeed.
“this is an important stage of life that i deserve” what about ur dead son?? ur unborn grandchild??? 😭
These people are disgusting.
So true
Who are THESE people, say, my brilliant friend?
Uhhhhhh sorry what
Stop glorifying Israel's apartheid state
Stop minimizing apartheid with this false equivalency
@@nissontillim2476
Apartheid:
1. (South Africa, historical) The policy of racial separation used by South Africa from 1948 to 1990.
2. (by extension) Any similar policy of racial separation/segregation and discrimination.
3.( by extension) A policy or situation of segregation based on some specified attribute.
Look at number 2 and 3
@@justinpower8232 Palestinians govern themselves. In the west bank they are governed by the correct PA. In Gaza by the terrorist Hamas. How is that apartheid?
Please don't minimize black suffering in South Africa with your inaccuracies
I’m a US Army Veteran… I wish they had the option for women to freeze our Eggs when I was serving. This story is amazing.
Weird
What about those he killed? There is no war, only genocide.
Tom Ballard, are you a jihadist or a sympathizer? Or a day dreamer?
@@rachelbass1111 humanitarian and anti racist
This is good for the family
What
are there blonds in ISRAEL?
Yep.
3PALESTINE UNTIL ITS BACKWARDS
The problem is apartheid
george orwell is for boomers,2024 fascism chooses warhammer 40k
Men wont be necessary in the future.
Oh yea? Who’s gonna maintain your infrastructure??
Have to get the sperm from somewhere.
@@truthteller4442Henry Ford was based
braaaah
uh? hmmm h???
🤣🤣🤣
#160👍😀This is the most desperate attempt to grow children by any crazy means. Will God approve of this? He will judge all for their madness.🔯🕊
Weird