Digging Under a House For a New Basement - House Build #1
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- This is the beginning of my house addition. In this video we do all the dirt work for a walkout basement as well as dig and support the existing house for a basement.
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In the late 30s, my father and his brother in one summer put a cement block wall, full concrete floor, and rebuilt coal furnace under the house I grew up in. They did it working after work and on week ends. They did it by hand.
You are completely mad - but I'm glad you are. This is a brilliant and interesting project to watch.
As a contractor I’m impressed and impressed you are even taking that on your own. But all I can think based on my personal experience gutting an older house, is that it would have probably just been cheaper to tear it all down and start over new. The headache and extra time it take to save it.
Good luck ether way
there is one difference. i´m a home owner of an 100+ year old wood house here in Sweden. first time i thought of cut upp my floor i almost burnt my sawsaw blade.. Old houses have good wood in them slow growing hard wood. to just waste that to build a osb home that blows in pieces next storm is not my cope of the
I'm sitting here in awe of the ingenuity. But also keep asking myself...How much is a basement worth?!?!? Almost easier to rent a few cranes and move the entire structure 40ft to the left, then 40ft back, no?
I was thinking the beams front to back could be axels. Set the house on wheels and roll it out of the way. After basement and foundation are ready, roll it right back.
This way they have somewhere to continue living while the basement is constructed I guess.
@@ess2870it is cheaper to build living space above ground . It is more comfortable to be in the space above ground and when it is time to sell your house, living space in the basement will be appraised only 50-60 percent from living space above ground.
My dad and I did this to a lake house we bought back in 1990. Instead of digging under the house like you we jacked it up with railroad ties 12’. On the day we were pouring the footer (in New Hampshire it’s 6’ deep) my dad was running the backhoe and he couldn’t reach this one spot to dig and bumped the house we thought. Well Dennis Delesio was inside using the bathroom taking a leak. He comes running out with soaked pants because that little bump was more like a magnitude 10 earthquake inside the house lol. You never thought you’d see a grown man come running out a house on this flimsy set of stairs with his pants almost down to his knees lol. That’s gotta be one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen. Things could have gotten very bad but luckily it didn’t.
That’s a great story
I probably would’ve ran out covered in weewee spatter too. 😂
I'm not worried about the vertical capacity of your wide flange beam columns, but I'm definitely concerned with the lack of horizontal racking strength. You don't have much of anything preventing the sideways movement of the house, and the beam to column connection is not enough to form a moment connection. All it takes is a good windy day, or a slip of the controls on the mini to bump it. Be safe!
My thoughts exactly. Like when the footing fell down @26:33 and hit the column.
@@Palo-jm7xc I would much rather see crib stacks made with 6x6 material... Crib stacks are easy to place and move, and they give you an easy place to put the jacks to lift. There is a reason pro riggers use crib stacks!
I'm more worried of the weld to the steel plates in the ground than the connection to the beams but I agree. When (read before) the entire houses foundation is a beam-pillar deck it needs some trusses to take up the horizontal loads in each direction.
I was thinking this too but it is still attached to the addition on the back so that is keeping vertical movements to a minimum. When he lifts that part up it's going to get sketchier for sure. Make sure it's not windy when you get into that part for sure!
Easier to build block walls when restricted from above. ( I’m guessing you planned this project yourself without using an experienced basement project manager?)🤔
This process seems just way too complicated and dangerous. On a large open property like this you could just build a basement next to the house and just roll the house over it.
You dont realize how simple it actually is. With beams and cribbing it is so simple. Moving the dirt us tye most work
Have done numerous underpinnings as we call tbem . Many with no machines except a skid steer
You have bigger balls than me with that structure lol - I would be scared crapless that framing would shift, especially at @26:37, thats a fecal factor of about 12 when that concrete hit that framing!
Consider adding more diagonal bracing to your supports. There's very little resistance to keep the supports from bending over and dropping your house.
I worked doing this back in the late 70s and 80s .I was the man who threw the cribbing and stacked it. the company's name was B&M Construction out of Epping New Hampshire. we did over 100 buildings in 4 years that I work there. some lake houses some barns some old farm houses old commercial buildings very hard work but it paid well and kept us on our toes . Lol
I feel like there were a lot more houses lifted/moved back in those days. There doesn’t seem to be too many company’s or people that do it anymore.
I have done many projects like this!! I have a house moving contractor move the house away from the excavation, pour the footings, then the walls, backfill same, then move the house onto the new foundation!! Simple, very safe!!
What style house and size? I'd be interested in learning the total cost and the breakdown into 3rds or quarters during the project
Saw and old army truck set up to move a house on a lot in Southington, CT years back. They were moving the house back on the lot to escape the growing road in front of the property. The amazing part to me was that a much smaller truck than I imagined could pull the house.
@@Dancing_Alone_wRentalsit depends on how friction free the rollers are. You can shift a giant oil tanker with a small motor boat if you get it positioned right.
If you just moved the cabin over to one side you could have just dug the basement hole without all that earth moving cost, (unless you are building a basement car garage of course….)
Angle bracing. Your raised structure is highly susceptible to wind, and lateral movement. Be careful.
seems like it would have been easier to dig and pour a basement in front of the house and just move it onto the new foundation. doesn't look like you have setbacks to deal with.
Started watching because who would be crazy enough to attempt digging under your house, (hope it doesn't get too windy) stayed because I love watching your dogs probably thinking the same.
The thumbnail got me interested to watch but the German Shepherd barking at the big nasty yellow "animal" with a metal hand at the beginning was an even better introduction to your channel 🤣
You could have built a new building and have a basement under the new building twice the size of the Basement under the old house For the price that you're paying just to have the 1 basement under the old house, And you could have built a new building close to the old house and just put a room from the old house over to the New building and new basement , But I enjoy the video of watching what you're doing it's your land and you're building, I enjoyed watching the video , Thank you,
Not enough cribbing in my opinion,dug quite a few like this in my younger days for a contractor. Jmo
Why not Build the Basement all of it!move house on finished basement?
I’m surprised you just didn’t pour your new basement next to the house and move the house on top.
That sounds easier than it would be
So interesting. I’ve never seen this done before. Keep posting the updates.
the youtube gods sent me here, OMG that's gonna be a good show :) nice digging!
I wish this was closer to my area. I’m getting ready to spend $8-10k to bring dirt in to level our build site
Two-three more large beams and you could have just slid the house back 25 feet. Built the basement then moved the hose back on top of it.
Excellent video. Well done to you for taking on a project like this yourself. All the best.
This is going to be a great series!!!
It was in the late Twenties when my father dug-out the celler in the house I was raised in. He did it with a pick, shovel & wheel barrow. Shored-up the rubble stone foundation to make room for a furnace, laundry room and large coal storage bin. Needless to say, none of the equipment you are using existed in those days.
🤔 No era mejor buscar una grua gigante y mover la casa d un lado a otro y así se les hacia mas facil hacer en basement y despues poner la casa para tras en su sitio original creo yo que se les viera echo mucho mas facil, rapido y sobre todo mas barato todo ese trabajo. Pero cada cual con sus ideas y pensamientos al final les quedo bien el trabajo 😉
What a mission, bet it's going to look and turn out great when done....
Your operator on those machines was a professional, you all have cajones of steel everyone of you the meticulous way you did that was a just epic you sir have a follow and subscribe just for that. Can’t wait to see this progress
Nothing like dogs running around when you're using heavy equipment.
How are you going to drain rain water away/out of the driveway espcially considering how you want to slope the front yard down into it ?
Thanks for sharing a different video. Was a bit scary at time but you are awesome. Take care be safe guys.
Cool; I didn't realize the excavators could hold their buckets upside down. Exciting project!
tHanks for the video
My partner and superintendent forgot to put the walkout basement . The masons just ran with it . Standing there the builder asked " Where's the lower level? " after the first floor wall were already stood .. I asked him " Did you look at the plans .. Did you notice ? ".. He just laughed about it and caused a $60,000 fix
Everyone does their own thing, but for me, I would either, have demolished the house and built one with a basement, Or, jacked up this one shifted it out the way, and built the basement structure, then put the house back.
A pretty big project, understatement! You are going to drive YT safety police bonkers 🤣 but I think it is amazing and cannot wait for the rest. Good luck and happy digging.
you could also jack the house up a few feet to add windows all round to the basement
why so diffecult rent a crane (the house weight is only 20 tons) lift it off build your basement and put it back on
LOL this is such unnecessary madness, I love it. Looks like there's enough room next door to build a "basement" without digging under the house and you still could have had covered stairs walking down into it.
I think it would have be easier, safer to dig a pit in front & behind the house & put up cement wall and move houses ontop
Grandpas 1875 house has awful foundation. Sold it to nonprofit and they put a full basement under it. Lifted it 2’ higher too.
I'll be following this build. Greetings from Australia.
Wow, that’s one ambitious DIY project.
Awesome work!
When I was young, my uncle did the same thing without having any experience. He spent about about a year and half on it while still working his normal job. He has a nice basement now.
WOW! Great job. Looking forward to many more videos of your adventure.
youtube please give me more videos like this!
Nice work! Looking forward to the progress!
Have you found anything interesting in the dirt from under the house? Like a box with a million $ in it haha
Unfortunately no ancient artifacts or boxes of money
Jimmy Hoffa?
You obviously contemplated just lifting it 2 feet and sliding it sideways, it's not like you have space limits and the extra steel could have been used for support beams in the other half of the build, what made you go this way because it is more complicated and takes more time.
Mostly because we are still using the house, electric/utility still connected. Also I believe it would take the same amount of work if not be more complicated when I go to slide the house back over a new foundation with 10 foot hole. I believe just lifting it up a few feet and setting it back down is a safer alternative.
Are The Beams crossing under the House, 1/2 or 3/4 inch , Just Putting My 2 cents, I would have Got 2 beams 1 inch thick steel,Beams 4 ft past each side of the House and Blocked up with Railroad ties, They would Have been strong enough, To dig out under the hole center, Of your House, Just Trying to Keep safe.
How in the world is this not falling over? There is lo lateral bracing at all! You get a 10 MPH wind and that house will be like a sail! push itself right over!
I guess it’s magic
Hello There, just Subscribed. Nice work👍🏼🇺🇸
Watching intently as I’m about to attempt pretty much the same thing but with a manufactured 16 x 40 garage / shop metal building. Wind is what I worry about. And wondering how you’re handling foundation. Wondering if I can get away with just piers or like you, just metal plates.
I am wondering why, seeing as you have had to jack up the house and put it on I beams, why you didn't slide it to one side, do the foundations, then slide it back on the foundations. A house removalist would be able to help you do that for not too much..considering the risk of doing it in situ.
Multiple reasons. Mostly because I am still using the house. Electric/ utility’s still connected. Also that would be quite a bit more work.
Cool stuff but my professional self is screaming... 😅 Unnecessary risky, although being horizontally secured by the beams it could have been washed away with some rainfall since you had no soil retention made. Faster and less risky solution would have been to disconnect plumbing, jack it up, install those beams with 2 house lengths extra lentgh on one side and use strand jacks to pull the building aside. After that use a heavy excavator to do the ground works.
Great video! Tried my best to watch it, but there was so much side to side camera movement i got nauseous.. best of luck!
29:56 you going to do what at the four tower points? 😅 sorry for my childish comment that looks scary to work under was really interesting too watch not sure how i ended up here but i watched the entire video so you are doing something right
I think you've taken a cue from Andrew Camarata's great style of editing/production re: super fast motion/music .
Seems crazy to put your garage in the basement. My uncle had one, it was planned into a new build thou. Would've been way cheaper to just put a basement under the new addition & built a garage. Unless there was a problem with the existing foundation
You’re a mad man! I can’t wait for the next video!
Excuse me but I think you lost your mind. WOW I wouldn't have believed it but there it is......
Ii USED TO DIG BASEMENTS UNDER HOUSES IN SEDGWICK COUNTY, KANSAS, MAKE SURE YOU SHORE THE EXTERIOR WALLS AGAINST GRAVITY PULL TOWARDS THE CENTER. mAKE SURE YOU LEARN THE MOISTURE SWELL OF THE cLAY BEFORE YOU STERT ANY CONCRETE WORK ANYWHERE UNDER THE HOUSE. SWELL CAN TEAR THAT FRAME HOUSE ALL APART. mAKE SURE YOU HAVE MANY PILING UNDER THE HOUSE TO MAINTANE THE INTEGRITY OF THE BUILDING.
No dogs were harmed in the process. Thanks.
Just use common sense years ago we had a house that although it had a full basement. It was mostly below grade at the front and the sides every time we needed to look out the windows we needed to stand on tippy toes the basement floor was 2x4 joists on 4x4 concrete sleepers with hardwood flooring one day my mother stood on her toes to look out the window and went through the floor and then sleeping wrong she got so stiff she could barely move the basement toilet was tucked under the stairs and after she had used the bathroom got up turned the wrong way and hit her head on the states so she asked if I could lift the house and I said I think I can and she said let's do it so I bought 9 jacks second hand checked with the city planing department and found out the rules were too much to meet but I was planning on a pressure treated foundation and was told I needed it designed and inspected by an engineer since I already knew that I went an got the engineering company aftrer making it beam at the front and back pre built all my basement walls and started jacking it up once I had it up I removed 4 foot of the old foundation wall and pur in the pressure treated foundation walls just finished settling down the house on the new foundation and the building inspector showed up and had a fit I told him I had the engineering company plan's he eaid I needed a city permit first and gave me a stop work order until I had one took my plans in the next and got one but I had the house raised-and on the new foundation no no need for having papers to show I was qualified to do the work put a sob basement in for my mechanical room and put a pressure treated foundation under my back deck gave me a 14 x30 foot storage shed and access to my mechanical room without having to lift the trapdoor I went from a 24 x 30 to 40 x40 up down duplex
Just me, but I would have built a fallout shelter and put the house over it. You can still use it as a basement.
Some triangulation under the support steel would probably be a good idea to prevent the building racking them left and/or right.
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The sides of the driveway puerto retaining wall in.Then you don't have to slope the driveway downing into the driveway and you will have a place to put the dirt
Read a book or something. Consult an engineer or house mover before you die. I know what I am talking about been a general contractor over 40 years
To me it would have made a great deal more sense to have moved the house, install the basement, then place the house on it! Did that 50 years ago with a full two story house after hauling it 17 miles.
While I appreciate the content I just don’t see why. But again, Ty for allowing us to see your vision come to reality.
I am hoping he is working with an engineer, long before digging under the house! If he is not, please, someone lie to me.. no really, just lie if you need to!
Ive got this phrase running in my brain, "SAFETY FIRST, SAFETY FIRST "
He made the video so he must have survived….. 😂
Pile up all the dirt around your property like a fence. Hay seed it and let it grow wild. Privacy and functionality.
Think y’all should’ve left that house how it was and not dog under if you already dogged deep next to it could collapse
Not exactly how U did it.we always ranvthe beams beyond and dug out yhe entire area so the basement wall gad 2 ' outside of them to dirt
Why couldn't you built the basement interior giant hole and have a crane or two cranes for that matter and set the house on top of the new basement, So much easier I'd say
Why not move your vast quantity of dirt with a bulldozer????
As someone that has done this a bit, I would feel way better if instead of the slim steel beams you had cribbing columns under those beams.
I don't know how you get any work done with the two supervisors barking out orders and sticking their nose where it doesn't belong.
you have to brace everything, the house is now on hinges and very unstable
The dog heard someone say that excavators had a dog bone... :D :D
You got my attention Sir
Define subscribe to follow the project
I really enjoyed watching this, thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching
Hi! Why do you call "soil" by the term "dirt"? Soil is not dirty! Andrew
I’m thinking an addition with basement would be more logical.
One dog is trying to help, the other two are trying to figure out what size bone you are trying to bury and the cat done fainted😂
I need to get me my own excavator! How fun would that be. Great shots by the way.
Oh no! You missed the big opportunity to make this a "Drive Through" Basement/Garage. Too Bad. Yea. Just right on through to the back yard. Would have only been another half hour for that excavator. Or you could have had a "Sunken Grotto" / With a greenhouse structure above on that end of the house. Or push through for a swimming pool. Whatever. Wow. The Geology there is AMAZING. Lot's of clay holding the banks together. Double Wow.!
Why not just make an extension? Your property is large enough
I suppose digging the new basement , then sliding the house over it would have been too easy!
Correct 👍
This is awesome! My dad and I had something similar done at our house, but just under an addition that was already propped up by sonotubes so it definitely was not as involved as your project. We created a little basement/workshop area to store our lawn tractor and a bunch of tools. What we did is definitely not to the extent that you’re doing, but I can definitely relate. I’m thinking about doing this under the entire house at some point, and also replacing the 12x12 wooden beams with steel. It’ll be a pretty penny though. Best of luck to you in this project!! I hope it goes well, and thanks for sharing the video. I’ve subscribed to follow the progress
I am a house designer by hobby, I am amazed at how you did this, can't wait to see the video of the walls being poured and then the house setting on top of them!!
Thanks👍
I see a lot of "reverse" excavator stuff but still, the skill to take an excavator and totally mess with the experienced operators brain is always crazy. This one particularly because of the tight confines and large excavator. It's like sharpening a toothpick with a chainsaw. doesn't make sense but totally works
There is a safer and much easier way. This kind of project is super common in California to retrofit seismic foundations under existing houses. Once you have the trenches dug out for the temporary support posts, use stacked railroad ties to make a crib, which is very stable and distributes the weight better than a post. A lot safer and no welding, and cheaper/easier to install and remove, and you can install the hydraulic lifts when you put them in and leave them in place until the cribs are removed. Then use hydraulic jacks to lift it. If you put shims between each floor joist and the lifting beam, cracking and shifting in the house will be minimized. Also, dig the railroad tie trenches below the grade of the finished floor. You can then dig put the floor around the railroad ties, and install permanent columns per the plans. When they are finished, , transfer the weight to the new side walls or permanent posts, remove the railroad ties, and fill the areas where the railroad ties were located to grade.
I did this to my house and studied house lifting for years before attempting it. Kudos to this guy for having the balls to do it but it's not really a "see how it goes" type of project. When things go wrong they go very wrong. Those posts are super sketchy- completely relying on whatever welds he put on those road plates for all the sheer strength. No substitute for cribbing stacks. Definitely staying tuned though
Balls of steel to play with weight of entire house on thin four columns.
LOOKS LIKE YOUR DOGS WERE TRYING TO HELP.....lol
You have lots of rooms. Would it be possible to dedicate different rooms for different items and organize them that way. Cleaning, painting and decoration, bedding, furniture, wood and construction, repairs etc. Everything in its own room.
5:12 I think you're forgetting to acknowledge the help you're getting as you speak!
My friend's dad did that in East Multnomah County at the time we were outside the city of Portland he did it all himself and a bobcat although he had to dig by hand to where he could put the Bobcat underneath there and we have this thing called the great Missoula flood so I wonder what he did with large Rocks Under the house because that what we have out here
You are completely out of your mind , I more than those steel under that house ! I've done what your doing ! It's only a basement just pour the footers and use regular 8 in Bloke .