Adrian Gore is an extraordinary business success, and leading SA entrepreneur. A national business hero. But Adrian has never, ever stood up for civil socity, nor has he ever called out the ANC for its blatant corruption and ineptocracy. He has failed us.
Thomas Sowell in his book, Discrimination and Disparities, also explains very well why different countries developed differently. Simple things like having deep, navigable rivers plays an important role.
Alec, I appreciate how you walk the talk, applying critical analysis and thinking to our unique situation. Too many people do not take the time to question their understanding of events. South Africans are too complacent, too detached. People like you and even those with more modest inputs can change the outcome of our country. I enjoyed your wealth of insights here, thanks.
Excellent. Thank you again Alec Hogg. Must read Guns Germs & Steel for the third time. You’ve picked out some fine connections for our time, that I clearly missed. His later book ‘Collapse’ is also revelatory about how societies and civilisations fail. But it’s not as well known.
@robsgonesailing IMO with all the information now becoming public, especially since Covid and X becoming the great equaliser for raw news ; the public as a whole see the WEF & WHO in a completely different light. I am one such individual. IMO Alec is another. The Alec here seemed to unshackle from his traditional PC houding and simply put the facts on the table, as painful as they were. To move forward we have to reject identity politics and altruism as a baseline and embrace meritocracy and individualism.
that is exactly what happens. They do have superior insights. Low level people like us think and reason completely wrong with little KNOWLEDGE and insight. They have connections in thinking we don't have Then again, POLITICS does not solve, but divide
@@pieterduplessis6906 I beg to differ. I'm not saying that all his insights are wrong, I just don't accept that they are all, always right. For example, a few weeks ago, RW's reasoning on why Americans voted for Trump was, in my humble opinion, flawed and contrary to what other commentators were saying. Intellectuals are human and have personal biases, just like I do. When it comes to issues like religion, politics and economics, being an intellectual doesn't automatically rubberstamp your insights. There are some very smart intellectuals who are communists and some very smart intellectuals who are Free Market supporters. These 2 philosophies are polar opposites from each other, so being a smart intellectual does always result in the same 'right' insights. Just look at what is happening at the 'prestigious' Universities in the UK and the US. Not much high-level thinking happening there. I also think that the 'Expert' Dr Fauci's 'Follow the Science' and the Mainstream Media poor coverage of Covid, has seriously harmed the reputation of intellectuals in general. Another Thomas Sowell book, 'Intellectuals and Society' , explains how often Intellectuals sit in their ivory towers, completely isolated from the real world.
It comes down to the classical values: knowledge and wisdom, hard work and perserverance, freedom, discipline, love for your fellow man, justice, etc, etc. I wonder where these values come from?? I wonder which countries embraced these values and the origins of it to a very large degree, reaped the rewards of it, and not to mention faught to abolish slavery and eliminate poverty in the process to a very large degree.
Thanks once again Alec. Brilliant incite once again. I have ordered a copy of Jared Diamonds book. A reread of George Orwell’s 1984 is also a good idea at this time.
The aboriginals in Australia for 40,000 years were able to come up with both the didgeridoo AND the boomerang! Of course the wheel was to come later. With the the arrival of settlers
Don't listen to trolls. Hmmm. Isn't this speech also a form of trolling? Anecdotes are subjective. Just do research with alternative NEWS sites. Find different perspectives and feed your brain. Then the questions arise, and dig deeper... Instead of being fed a mainstream narrative.
18:06 sorry Alec but your comparison is completely incorrect. SA needs a functioning health system and not the size and scope of the NHS. Salaries are different but so is the cost of living, and not everybody just packs up and leaves to highest paying place (or can leave) 😮
alex, one possibility is that we think at the shallow ‘believe all we hear 1st level’, as you suggest. the other is that we do indeed think about things at deeper levels but that some of us fundamentally disagree with you on some main things. let’s start with that premise and then have a discussion …
yet, do don't declare YOT premise. People disagree every day on all things. But there is a deeper truth that transcend what we "feel" or "believe". And this is where we get stuck.
Cold War thinking. It's becoming a common phrase lately. As the Malaysian President at the recent WEF gathering in Saudi Arabia, "The west verse the rest " Where 1 billion act differently to the 7 billion people of the Global south. Time to change your thinking Alex
little is said here. the ideologies clash all of the time, but the premise that the government will supply all your need is so laughable, we need to take medication before we have that talk It is because of the divide (west vs east) that we are in the state we are in. HE is spot on with the way people developed and moved and migrated. But I guess that is just too painful for people to believe when there flawed ideologies tell them different At least define "cold war thinking" correct. Jut a cool sounding name for your faulty premise does not suffice when talking about this important topic. The west is not the answer, and neither is the east. We need a new dispensation that transcends geography and politics
Why Health Insurance in the first place? It did not exist during apartheid years. If it did, most certainly not to the extent it has exploited the citizens as it does in modern times. The ecnomic hitmen have done their work.
Health Insurance was not necessary during the Apartheid era, because the state run hospitals were top notch.During this period, South Africa was queen, of course , with the exception of how blacks were treated.
I don't think it is the answer is the NHI but put yourself in the shows of someone who does not have medical cover. We would be well served to actually experience the plights of others before we so easily dismiss the need for what others desperately need. To stand in another's persons shoes might be a humbling experience for many. Everything is not always a political reasoning exercise or a debate competition. Everything cannot be declared void and views sanitized by a mere ideological declaration of "facts that is misunderstood"
As for Adrian Gore being an astute investor, he's so off the mark with regards South Africa's future recovery. Read what Magnus Heystek has to say about him and his baseless claims. Adrian Gore is so up Ramaphosa's you know what, one has to question Gore's motives.
Many South Africans, I am sure, have seen through the ANC strategies and tactics a long time ago. Latest examples are the action at the ICJ and the suspension of load shedding. Useful idiots are being strung along by this.
nope it is not. That is why we are where we are. Because we ruin away and build up Europe and America. We only have ourselves to blame. And boy, can we complain and blame others when we are the cowards and backseat drivers
@mark_sugar42 I don't write messages of the sort that will be deleted by Google. Most media takes money from the same sponsors driving the same narrative. It shows even more when they delete any message that doesn't support that idea.
It is amazing that the Idea of NHI the intention is great objective ,yet we condem it becuase of who prmotes it and its history ,corruption .So a good idea gets ridiculed the debate should be how we achieve its objectives.We discuss the Western as seperate entity who idea is it abd what there motive ,do they recognise the original inhabitants or i 27:10 s another ploy to create a enclave .Look at last workers day event and see what cruelty the decendents of original inhabitants are going through the farm workers .We will ,see wach other as human first and then we need to conclude what is best for all of us ,wealth was built on slavery exploitation and theft .
What is sad about this programme is it has great potential to create open honest debate instead aims to create fear .I have.a vies truth is only our truth ,what happening hear is promotion of fear and one view instead of opening the eyes of his audience to all views without promoting a view as negative or positive .
Certain nuggets of your talk were interesting, however, your take on the RUSSIAN invasion of Ukraine ìs fed directly from the hand of the west. The CIA was instrumental in toppling Yanukovych in 2014. Then came Poroshenko and various other puppets after that until the clown of all clowns, Zelensky. You never referenced the Minsk agreement, the expansion of Nato that violated this very agreement, the plight of the people in the Donbas region at all. What will the US do if Russia were to influence Mexico to the extent that they built military bases there?
Alec, your praise of Adrian Gore is misled. He may be an excellent businessman, to some, in terms of looking after No.1, but he is a complete heel for his toadying up to Government on the NHI. I hove NO respect for him at all given this and his past treatment of staff, suppliers and others in the 2020-2022 period. Very good talk otherwise, thank you.
Agree with a lot but not everything ! Perhaps you along with Rob Hershov should enter politics !! .... why escape , ducking & moving to Hermanus 😅 This Cape independence angle is a British Intelligence agency project (Historical claim) !! & they only now realize how important the route is...... way too little way to late !! 😅
If 2nd level thinking excludes the books written by Answers in Genesis, it's not complete. To say that the Australian Aborigines has been there for 40000 years, is to say the Bible is a story book. Well it's definitely not. God created the universe in 6 literal days, plus minus 6000 years ago. Search Answers in Genesis for answers on my statement. Everyone believes those who gives each other doctor's degrees, but God uses the foolish things of this world to confront the "wise". The truth shall set you free.
@@raymondtromp7472 True story ,,, bit we are trapped in the cycle of consumerism. Sovereignty should come before money - sovereignty is achieved by becoming self sustainable - if our government applied the principle, our economy would not be in such a shabby shape. If the people did not sit back and wait for the government to provide and sort out their shit show, we would also be better off.
Once you actually got to really Know the reigning SA regime, you Know. We know, at 3rd level thinking, so we need to bail out of SA asap. BTW, very few of your compatriots can even reach 1st Level thinking.
@robhersov2486. I have to agree. My late life long friend always used to say "insurance existed to put you back in the position you were in before the problem". One would think medical aid/insurance would be the same. Discovery have people who disagree with a Doctor. When it comes to your well being vs Discovery profits your life means nothing. No hero of mine at all Profits with blood on his hands
Adrian Gore is an extraordinary business success, and leading SA entrepreneur. A national business hero. But Adrian has never, ever stood up for civil socity, nor has he ever called out the ANC for its blatant corruption and ineptocracy. He has failed us.
Ya. He has his own interests at heart.
And he forced his employees to take the 'vaccine' ....
Him playing footsie with the ANC over NHI... Got a waft of arrogance coming off that, a 'too big to fail' attitude.
Don't forget Covid Vaccines and the so-called green energy push. Public paid high price.
Adrian is a brilliant man,knows medical business like no other person in this country ! Take note of what he says and does !!!!
Thanks so much for your and your teams hard work in providing all the knowledgeable video’s and interviews
@AlecHogg
Thank you Alex Hogg for what you do for SA !
@robsgonesailing
@AlecHogg: achtung, troll alert.
Keep up the great work , Alec
Thomas Sowell in his book, Discrimination and Disparities, also explains very well why different countries developed differently. Simple things like having deep, navigable rivers plays an important role.
Very, very informative speech. Thanks Alec and co.
Alec, I appreciate how you walk the talk, applying critical analysis and thinking to our unique situation. Too many people do not take the time to question their understanding of events. South Africans are too complacent, too detached. People like you and even those with more modest inputs can change the outcome of our country. I enjoyed your wealth of insights here, thanks.
Wish I was there. This talk was: Professional. Honest. Accurate.
Thank you Alex
Always lovelly to hear you ❤
Excellent. Thank you again Alec Hogg. Must read Guns Germs & Steel for the third time. You’ve picked out some fine connections for our time, that I clearly missed. His later book ‘Collapse’ is also revelatory about how societies and civilisations fail. But it’s not as well known.
Great message, Alec! I’m delighted you enjoyed Howard Marks’ book
Thanks again!
Alec is well-read. Very intriguing knowledge.
Wow. That was electric. Captured my imagination from the the word go. Thanx Alec. Much much respect. ☀️🌴
@robsgonesailing IMO with all the information now becoming public, especially since Covid and X becoming the great equaliser for raw news ; the public as a whole see the WEF & WHO in a completely different light. I am one such individual. IMO Alec is another. The Alec here seemed to unshackle from his traditional PC houding and simply put the facts on the table, as painful as they were. To move forward we have to reject identity politics and altruism as a baseline and embrace meritocracy and individualism.
this is so good, Im very welcomly surprised by this talk by you Mr Hogg ...
Great speech.. Alec...i just only enjoyed it...i loved it...thank you.
Adrian is one person I have no respect for. Love your business AH You do a brilliant job. This was very informative.
That was getting so enjoyable until the sound because inaudible..it would be nice to hear more of this.
❤ Thank you Alec .
Great talk. Very Interesting and look forward to the book 📚
Very informative, thank you.
I don't think that just because someone has been a professor in politics in Oxford automatically gives him superior insights.
that is exactly what happens. They do have superior insights. Low level people like us think and reason completely wrong with little KNOWLEDGE and insight. They have connections in thinking we don't have
Then again, POLITICS does not solve, but divide
@@pieterduplessis6906 I beg to differ. I'm not saying that all his insights are wrong, I just don't accept that they are all, always right. For example, a few weeks ago, RW's reasoning on why Americans voted for Trump was, in my humble opinion, flawed and contrary to what other commentators were saying. Intellectuals are human and have personal biases, just like I do. When it comes to issues like religion, politics and economics, being an intellectual doesn't automatically rubberstamp your insights.
There are some very smart intellectuals who are communists and some very smart intellectuals who are Free Market supporters. These 2 philosophies are polar opposites from each other, so being a smart intellectual does always result in the same 'right' insights. Just look at what is happening at the 'prestigious' Universities in the UK and the US. Not much high-level thinking happening there. I also think that the 'Expert' Dr Fauci's 'Follow the Science' and the Mainstream Media poor coverage of Covid, has seriously harmed the reputation of intellectuals in general.
Another Thomas Sowell book, 'Intellectuals and Society' , explains how often Intellectuals sit in their ivory towers, completely isolated from the real world.
We all need to start to engage with the south/north narrative!
It comes down to the classical values: knowledge and wisdom, hard work and perserverance, freedom, discipline, love for your fellow man, justice, etc, etc.
I wonder where these values come from?? I wonder which countries embraced these values and the origins of it to a very large degree, reaped the rewards of it, and not to mention faught to abolish slavery and eliminate poverty in the process to a very large degree.
Thanks Alec. Very interesting.
Thanks once again Alec. Brilliant incite once again. I have ordered a copy of Jared Diamonds book. A reread of George Orwell’s 1984 is also a good idea at this time.
But Alec your hero Adrian Gore was a great proponent of NHI!🤬
Excellent job 👏
A super vid...Alec wants to consolidate skills...awesome...
Second-level thinking all but disappeared in South Africa around 30 years ago.
The aboriginals in Australia for 40,000 years were able to come up with both the didgeridoo AND the boomerang! Of course the wheel was to come later. With the the arrival of settlers
Don't listen to trolls. Hmmm. Isn't this speech also a form of trolling? Anecdotes are subjective. Just do research with alternative NEWS sites. Find different perspectives and feed your brain. Then the questions arise, and dig deeper... Instead of being fed a mainstream narrative.
18:06 sorry Alec but your comparison is completely incorrect. SA needs a functioning health system and not the size and scope of the NHS. Salaries are different but so is the cost of living, and not everybody just packs up and leaves to highest paying place (or can leave) 😮
Thank ypu for an awesome poece
My pleasure 😊
alex, one possibility is that we think at the shallow ‘believe all we hear 1st level’, as you suggest.
the other is that we do indeed think about things at deeper levels but that some of us fundamentally disagree with you on some main things.
let’s start with that premise and then have a discussion …
yet, do don't declare YOT premise. People disagree every day on all things. But there is a deeper truth that transcend what we "feel" or "believe". And this is where we get stuck.
I still dont understand what 2nd level thinking is. Just looking at things a different way with morel long term view?
Youre not alone. There is no 2nd level thinking happening here. Just a toastmasters speech.
Cold War thinking. It's becoming a common phrase lately. As the Malaysian President at the recent WEF gathering in Saudi Arabia, "The west verse the rest " Where 1 billion act differently to the 7 billion people of the Global south. Time to change your thinking Alex
little is said here. the ideologies clash all of the time, but the premise that the government will supply all your need is so laughable, we need to take medication before we have that talk
It is because of the divide (west vs east) that we are in the state we are in.
HE is spot on with the way people developed and moved and migrated. But I guess that is just too painful for people to believe when there flawed ideologies tell them different
At least define "cold war thinking" correct. Jut a cool sounding name for your faulty premise does not suffice when talking about this important topic.
The west is not the answer, and neither is the east. We need a new dispensation that transcends geography and politics
This was honestly a very very good video, I literally felt my brain do one of those infogasims nearly every passing minute💯 Very good video thank you🙏
Thank you
Good talk well done❤
Why Health Insurance in the first place? It did not exist during apartheid years. If it did, most certainly not to the extent it has exploited the citizens as it does in modern times. The ecnomic hitmen have done their work.
Health Insurance was not necessary during the Apartheid era, because the state run hospitals were top notch.During this period, South Africa was queen, of course , with the exception of how blacks were treated.
I don't think it is the answer is the NHI but put yourself in the shows of someone who does not have medical cover. We would be well served to actually experience the plights of others before we so easily dismiss the need for what others desperately need.
To stand in another's persons shoes might be a humbling experience for many. Everything is not always a political reasoning exercise or a debate competition. Everything cannot be declared void and views sanitized by a mere ideological declaration of "facts that is misunderstood"
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Alex, Which is the best way to contact BizNews from overseas?
Alec@biznews.com
As for Adrian Gore being an astute investor, he's so off the mark with regards South Africa's future recovery. Read what Magnus Heystek has to say about him and his baseless claims. Adrian Gore is so up Ramaphosa's you know what, one has to question Gore's motives.
The DA just burnt the SA flag , now who's got the gumption to burn the ANC flag ?
comrade jz783 ?
Do you even understand the add?
Really enjoyed this speech Alec.
i'd just add that the main stream news channels are not much better than the Russian Troll Farms.
When empty bottles are worth more than those that are full,its a jackpot
Many South Africans, I am sure, have seen through the ANC strategies and tactics a long time ago. Latest examples are the action at the ICJ and the suspension of load shedding. Useful idiots are being strung along by this.
die Land is in sy moer Alex!
nope it is not. That is why we are where we are. Because we ruin away and build up Europe and America. We only have ourselves to blame. And boy, can we complain and blame others when we are the cowards and backseat drivers
Alec, regarding Putin's Troll Farm, can you share your evidence? This is an astonishing claim, so I hope you can support it.
I now think you are just propagandist for deleting messages to suit your narrative
Did he delete them or somebody else who reported them to YT?
@mark_sugar42 I don't write messages of the sort that will be deleted by Google. Most media takes money from the same sponsors driving the same narrative. It shows even more when they delete any message that doesn't support that idea.
It is amazing that the Idea of NHI the intention is great objective ,yet we condem it becuase of who prmotes it and its history ,corruption .So a good idea gets ridiculed the debate should be how we achieve its objectives.We discuss the Western as seperate entity who idea is it abd what there motive ,do they recognise the original inhabitants or i 27:10 s another ploy to create a enclave .Look at last workers day event and see what cruelty the decendents of original inhabitants are going through the farm workers .We will ,see wach other as human first and then we need to conclude what is best for all of us ,wealth was built on slavery exploitation and theft .
What is sad about this programme is it has great potential to create open honest debate instead aims to create fear .I have.a vies truth is only our truth ,what happening hear is promotion of fear and one view instead of opening the eyes of his audience to all views without promoting a view as negative or positive .
It's unfortunate that Alec is a WEF fan. It certainly clouds my opinion of him. A pity.
Certain nuggets of your talk were interesting, however, your take on the RUSSIAN invasion of Ukraine ìs fed directly from the hand of the west. The CIA was instrumental in toppling Yanukovych in 2014. Then came Poroshenko and various other puppets after that until the clown of all clowns, Zelensky. You never referenced the Minsk agreement, the expansion of Nato that violated this very agreement, the plight of the people in the Donbas region at all. What will the US do if Russia were to influence Mexico to the extent that they built military bases there?
What was the plight of people of Donbas? They were better off than most Ruzzians
Alec, your praise of Adrian Gore is misled. He may be an excellent businessman, to some, in terms of looking after No.1, but he is a complete heel for his toadying up to Government on the NHI. I hove NO respect for him at all given this and his past treatment of staff, suppliers and others in the 2020-2022 period. Very good talk otherwise, thank you.
AG is totally reliant on govt goodwill for his business
Agree with a lot but not everything ! Perhaps you along with Rob Hershov should enter politics !! .... why escape , ducking & moving to Hermanus 😅 This Cape independence angle is a British Intelligence agency project (Historical claim) !! & they only now realize how important the route is...... way too little way to late !! 😅
21:00.How many of these policies are supporting WEF and globelists?
Vote DA save South Africa 👍
What a stretch of imagination for Cape independence, 4th level thinking?!?
First
If 2nd level thinking excludes the books written by Answers in Genesis, it's not complete. To say that the Australian Aborigines has been there for 40000 years, is to say the Bible is a story book. Well it's definitely not. God created the universe in 6 literal days, plus minus 6000 years ago. Search Answers in Genesis for answers on my statement. Everyone believes those who gives each other doctor's degrees, but God uses the foolish things of this world to confront the "wise". The truth shall set you free.
money isn,t everything dude
But it pays for food clothes health Safety and some life .
@@raymondtromp7472 True story ,,, bit we are trapped in the cycle of consumerism. Sovereignty should come before money - sovereignty is achieved by becoming self sustainable - if our government applied the principle, our economy would not be in such a shabby shape. If the people did not sit back and wait for the government to provide and sort out their shit show, we would also be better off.
Once you actually got to really Know the reigning SA regime, you Know.
We know, at 3rd level thinking, so we need to bail out of SA asap.
BTW, very few of your compatriots can even reach 1st Level thinking.
@robhersov2486. I have to agree. My late life long friend always used to say "insurance existed to put you back in the position you were in before the problem". One would think medical aid/insurance would be the same. Discovery have people who disagree with a Doctor. When it comes to your well being vs Discovery profits your life means nothing.
No hero of mine at all
Profits with blood on his hands