"You can't get rid of Super Neo Metal Sonic!" You mean the same Super Neo Metal Sonic that was knocked out of his super form from an ordinary Chaos Spear from Shadow in the canon comics?
@@lmao_junoThat just makes him even more pathetic honestly. The fact he has a specific weak spot that can be exploited by some average chaos spear says something...
I mean Mario party and paper. Mario are stated canon but paper jam kinda just makes the entire thing weird making it where the paper and regular universes are separate but no one really cares for jam so yeah
@@OmegaGraves dawg he's literally gonna kill himself just to save his army😭🙏 and don't get me started how he's a father of 13 or 12 kids THAT HE ADOPTED(except bowser jr that is his biological son)
My personal opinion on this Death Battle is that, no matter how you look at it, from a purely canon perspective, it’s close. Super close. Both have extremely powerful and plentiful army’s, a bunch of reality warping relics, and feats such as breaking the universe and beyond. This Death Battle could realistically go either way, it all depends on circumstance and location. Because as MØro (the animator) showed in a funny skit, Eggman could’ve just fired the Death Egg immediately and he would win. Of course, in an alternate scenario where Bowser is on the attack, he could just destroy the planter through a back hole and cripple Eggman, giving him the win. So really it all comes down to circumstance. One thing I will say is to not take the animation so seriously, especially in this type of battle. In a one on one, it’s easier to display the fighters full ability’s. In an army battle, it’s impossible to show everything in a way that doesn’t make it boring, so the animation goes for funny, epic, and awesome moments. Don’t take it so seriously
Mans really said "to disrespect Infinite like that" My guy let's be fr Infinite was a bum, his entire screen time in Forces consisted of him showing up, doing one kinda cool thing then get beaten up immediately, and his whole reason for even being there was cuz Shadow called him a playgroud insult once "Disrespecting Infinite" no bro he's just a fraud lmao
@@mauricioreyesm3988 i agree that’s he’s poorly written and a bum still doesn’t take from the fact he was stated to be the strongest foe sonic has ever faced
That statment mean nothing when you it have no feat to back it up Hé lost to base Sonic hes not doing shit go solaris Time eater or any of the titans @@OmegaGraves
Gotta be the most glazy sonic fan I've seen😭 Like Ain't gonna lie I was hoping Bowser won but idc who won and how they won, this was peak and the animation was goated
Tbh Bowser army was always going to outlast eggman simply due to its sheer size, as acoording the Mario and Luigi Brother ship the Koopa Army is Currently 98 Million strong, Eggmans armies in the Comics and Games have never been above 1 Million, to put it in prespective ever 1 badnick would have to take out 10,000 Koop Troop to be even, and considering how easily they go down, Yeah Bowsers army can simply bleed the Eggman Army dry of Soldiers
@OmegaGraves Even a Gooma can be a Threat, Just look a Superstar Saga were Capatin Goomba Defeated all 7 Koopalings, Fawful, Bowser Jr and can go toe to toe against the Mario Bros
@@OmegaGravesIt’s not like they can just transform a Goomba into a fake Bowser and have an army of 98 MILLION BOWSERS if they wanted to. No wait, they can, and considering how Mario and Sonic should be similar in stats, the Eggman Empire would instantly get deleted against those odds. The MU is basically them being similar in stats but Bowser outhaxes SO HARD, Eggman basically becomes fodder. (Kamek says NO to any power copying/abilities any of Eggman’s troops can do, any minion with ‘Deny’ can do the same thing, Sage is pretty much useless outside of Cyber Cages due to lack of tech and all the BS Bowser’s side has, and even then, Bowser’s side has dimensional travel, King Boo can trap everyone in paintings, reality warping/transmutation, existence erasure, etc)
Además no nos olvidemos que los 98 millones en el ejército de bowser pueden usar todos los power UPS de Mario incluyendo las cerezas que te duplican además que bowser, sus hijos y los magikoopas tienen magia y pueden convertir a las máquinas de Bergman en bloques incluso máquinas como el death egg y como dijeron los poderes de bowser sin power UPS no necesitan mucho tiempo ni preparación por adelantado además infinite aumento la gravedad y no pudo atención a su entorno asique el thwomp le cayó con mucha más velocidad y peso y lo peor no murió pero quedó fuera de combate por su propia culpa además recordemos que las máquinas de bowser como sus barcos o castillos son igual de rápidos en ir al espacio que el egg Mobile además la diferencia en lo del ejército es que bowser a diferencia de eggman pelea en la primera fila eggman no le importan sus tropas lo que las hace perderlas constantemente mientras que las tropas de bowser se pierden menos al no recibir los mayores ataques debido a que su líder los cubre por eso al final eggman perdió porque perdió a metal que hizo todo, su flota se destruyó por el agujero negro del Rayo de la grand star, ahuyenta a todo su ejército con el Rayo del death egg, no tenía el phantom rugby ni energía para ser light Man, sage se llevo las esmeraldas al death egg el cual fue convertido en lucky block con ella dentro así neutralizandola, lo peor bowser tenía más formas aún a la mayoría de su ejército y tantos powerups que podían resucitar a todo el ejército muerto con power UPS o magia, sage no podía con las posibilidades y eggman perdió por arrogante porque cuando bowser se engañó por el de coy se recelo el solo que no murió, no llevo sus mejores robots, no comprobó si bowser de verdad cayó, sino que se mostró antes de asegurarse e ignoro su entorno lo que si no fuera por metal hubiera recibido el golpe inicial de bowser fury e incluso como se mostró en los escenarios alternativos sus mejores armas serían neutralizadas y aunque no les guste se investigo y comprobó Mario party es Canon además al inicio del video en la cajita negra arriba se decía que solo iban a sacar cosas canon en los juegos y no en crossover dejando fuera a smash Bros y los cómics de archie, además si el Rayo del golpe final de bowser no es un smash ni nada es parte de la marca de animación de moro.
Tbf even if metal sonic cant be erased, he can still be transmuted or have his energy siphoned and chaos control wont work as bowsers lesser powerups can counter time stops like his basic wand he uses and can call back telepathically, also magic is infinite; technology is not and even the chaos emeralds can be siphoned, oh and king boo is immune to reality warping and gravity control, and the reason why infinite was killed by a thwomp was because infinite increased gravity tenfolds and the thwomp would have a crushing effect as any object would be more deadly if gravity was increased
@OmegaGraves archie comics metal sonic is immune to existence erasure yes, but not video game/idw comics metal sonic, shit just base bowser was able to survive a grand star blowing up the entire mario universe in Super Mario Galaxy, Eggman or even metal sonic or super metal sonic have never taken a universe implosion to the face before/yet
@@OmegaGraves if you want something even more crazy, they didnt even use dreamy bowser whos immune to any time/erasing/and reality effects and is his most powerful form
@@diegoadam9158 the whole plot of sonic generations? i was referencing generations metal sonic who survived the time eater destroying all of space-time
Death Battle usually doesn't get 100% of the stuff right its hit or miss. But tbh, if they were to get more accurate stuff, I aint gonna lie, Bowser didn't even need his army or any other forms tbh😭
Bro NO WAY Infinite is stronger than Solaris, actually, wasn't the End the strongest foe of Sonic? I remember the End calling each of Sonic's previous encounters as "Finite", unlike him who is truly infinite, endless or whatever, in this I truly believe that the End was including Solaris in that statement.
@@OmegaGraves ahh right ok ok. So if you say Solaris is 7d or something, is the end like, 8 or 9? I don't know much about the full scale of Sonic nor Mario, so I really can't contribute to the debate other than the few notions that I have for each verse.
@ yeah i would say solaris is around 6D lowball or 7D and you have to remember bro in phase 2 went a step up in dimensionality it’s crazy solaris was basically omnipotent existing in the past present and future but then future sonic villains just cliff him
People underestimate the power of a big ass rock, yeah if you move out of the way of it, its basically harmless, but infinite didn't do that so of course he got one shotted.
Both Mario and Sonic's cosmology are equal neither has a significant edge but if you want a technical answer then Mario has the bigger cosmology than Sonic, There are Dreams and Dreams in the Mario Universe are Infinite Universe in size sure there are the arabian nights which are infinite universes but according to the research there are only 100 arabian nights which would mean 100 additional infinite universe BUT There are more Universes of Dreams in the Mario universe, consideringthe Pi'illos and all the people in the island powered the dream stone by their dreams that means there are way more Dreams than there are arabian nights
@@Spider-Mario the arabian nights aren’t the only parallel universes in sonic. There has been multiple statements from characters and data books that state there are an infinite amount of parallel universe through the power of the stars from rush adventure which the time eater CONSUMED AND ERASED and created his own dimension filled with no time flow that holds different parts of the cosmology in it and the fact sonic’s speed was so fast he can restore spacetime just by RUNNING and metal constantly scales to sonic in IDW above him at the time and infinite with the phantom ruby and the death egg robot amped by the ruby also scale above the time eater
@@OmegaGraves even with those in mind Bowser can still take all of them Metal sonic, The Egg Salamander, and Time Eater he scales to someone above them all, Dimentio, he was capable of destroying time and space and destroying the entire infinite Mario multiverse even the concepts of the universes as well and Bowser could hold his own against him
To settle up the stuff with Infinite, he was increasing the force of gravity on Bowser’s army. Bowser’s occupied with using his magic to keep more of his troops from biting the big one. King Boo can float, and manipulate space in some form or another, and a thwomp is a big, heavy spiked slab of rock. I don’t have the scientific equation on hand, but Infinite has been outwitted before, and if he wasn’t paying attention to the only enemy not affected by his attack, that was his own fault.
"their beef with Sonic" And yet, they still had Sonic characters win with: - Metal Sonic (against both Eggman and Wily) - Sonic (against Mario (2011)) - Tails (against Luigi) - Amy Rose (against Ramona Flowers) - Shadow (against Ryuko) - Archie Silver (against Xeno Trunks) Plus, one of the DB creators said explicitly to be a fan of the Archie Sonic comics fan. So, I wouldn't say they have beef with Sonic and the characters (except for what they did with Shadow vs Mewtwo, f*ck that episode).
39:32 here’s something they forgot or probably didn’t even look at. Sure Bowser managed to conquer the Mario universe in super Mario Galaxy but Tails stated in Sonic Generations. If Eggman kept using the time eater he threatened an entire Sonic multiverse of timelines. Matter of fact the time eater was also able to bring back pieces of the timeline that were erased from existence that being Sonic 06
Even if that was brought up the victor would not CHANGE Bowser has held his own against Dimentio a being capable of destroying the entire infinite Mario multiverse and both multiverses are infinite with no significant edge plus Dimentio was capable of not erasing a universe but its concept as well so hence if Bowser can hold his own against that then he has no problem doing the same against Time Eater also Time Eater could not survive the Dream Stone wishing him out of existence
@ the time eater LITERALLY preformed the feat that you suggested and LITERALLY has a dimension outside of the fabric of existence where it still exists
They missed and didn’t even bring out everything Eggman had and it would’ve helped him win Such as Mecha Sonic, Omega, Jweled Scepter, Master Emerald and Super Emeralds and a few statements
Okay, so... *ahem* - They DID bring those up in the analysis, and black pop-ups appearing on the up-right corner. And yes, Eggman DOES have those things he could use against Bowser, but the turtle-dragon could counter and/or surpass with his very own items and McGuffins (Power/Grand Stars, Star Rod, Wonder Flower, Dream Stone, Pure Hearts, etc.) - Mecha Sonic Mk. II (the one who faced Sonic and Knuckles separately) has long discarded his loyalty to the Eggman Empire, and became the protector of the Scrapnik Island. So, he wouldn't have any interest in joining Eggman again. And even if he did, and could turn into Super Mecha Sonic, not only would be weaker than most Eggman's current and strongest robots (including Metal Sonic, who has become MUCH stronger, despite Mecha being created AFTER him), but his Super form barely last a minute, something that got him folded by a base Classic Knuckles. So yeah. - And, pffft... Seriously? E-123 OMEGA, joining EGGMAN? The ONE robot has absolutely HATES the doctor's guts more than even Sonic himself, that would try to gun him down on sight the moment he tries to approach him? Hell, IF he was there, I wouldn't even be surprised if he cheered for Bowser killing Eggman.
Only one valid is the Master Emerald - Mecha Sonic is weaker than Metal Sonic and he's long abandoned Eggman as per IDW's Scrapnik Island arc - Omega? Seriously? His entire thing is hating Eggman and wanting to destroy him and His robots, doesn't make sense for him to be on Eggman's Side - They did mention the jeweled scepter in Eggman's arsenal, they Even brought up the Egg Wizard during Eggman's Breakdown, You did not watch the video - Super Emeralds are not usable since 3&K, they're currently residing in a different dimension and Eggman's has never Even used them
"You can't get rid of Super Neo Metal Sonic!"
You mean the same Super Neo Metal Sonic that was knocked out of his super form from an ordinary Chaos Spear from Shadow in the canon comics?
@@MrChava54 the same super neo who perception blitzed a post forces sonic and silver the same metal who resisted existence erasure from the time eater
Bro took away the context that shadow snuck him in his weak spot and literally after that shadow got touched
@@lmao_junoThat just makes him even more pathetic honestly. The fact he has a specific weak spot that can be exploited by some average chaos spear says something...
@@OmegaGraves He never resisted time eater. Where the hell are you getting this?
@@ironspider2867 you LITERALLY see metal sonic in the white space unaffected like shadow was
According to the creator of mario, Mario party is canon
canon as an In-Universe event
What do you mean as "in-universe" @@gadlygamer
@@whippilicious8117Basically admitting Mario Party being canon, but refusing to call Paper Jam canon.
Everything in mario is
I mean Mario party and paper. Mario are stated canon but paper jam kinda just makes the entire thing weird making it where the paper and regular universes are separate but no one really cares for jam so yeah
Salty Sonic fans never fail to entertain me. BOWSER THE GOAT.
@@brakenmills2860 ain’t the goat of shi
@@OmegaGraves dawg he's literally gonna kill himself just to save his army😭🙏 and don't get me started how he's a father of 13 or 12 kids THAT HE ADOPTED(except bowser jr that is his biological son)
Based opinion
@@OmegaGraves so we can't take facts now? Do we have to delete a comment? Great another Sonic glazer getting mad with facts.
@Fishfunni i haven’t deleted anything?😭 why would i delete discourse and engagement on my videos
Take the L.😂
My personal opinion on this Death Battle is that, no matter how you look at it, from a purely canon perspective, it’s close. Super close. Both have extremely powerful and plentiful army’s, a bunch of reality warping relics, and feats such as breaking the universe and beyond. This Death Battle could realistically go either way, it all depends on circumstance and location. Because as MØro (the animator) showed in a funny skit, Eggman could’ve just fired the Death Egg immediately and he would win. Of course, in an alternate scenario where Bowser is on the attack, he could just destroy the planter through a back hole and cripple Eggman, giving him the win. So really it all comes down to circumstance.
One thing I will say is to not take the animation so seriously, especially in this type of battle. In a one on one, it’s easier to display the fighters full ability’s. In an army battle, it’s impossible to show everything in a way that doesn’t make it boring, so the animation goes for funny, epic, and awesome moments. Don’t take it so seriously
Bowser the goat
Good parenting at is finest
@@ThegrandKrild can’t deny he’s a W dad
The glaze and salt is strong on this one😂
Mans really said "to disrespect Infinite like that"
My guy let's be fr Infinite was a bum, his entire screen time in Forces consisted of him showing up, doing one kinda cool thing then get beaten up immediately, and his whole reason for even being there was cuz Shadow called him a playgroud insult once
"Disrespecting Infinite" no bro he's just a fraud lmao
@@mauricioreyesm3988 i agree that’s he’s poorly written and a bum still doesn’t take from the fact he was stated to be the strongest foe sonic has ever faced
@@OmegaGraves
So he's carried by power scaling, basically......
....yeah nah Let King Boo put him on fraud watch lol
That statment mean nothing when you it have no feat to back it up
Hé lost to base Sonic hes not doing shit go solaris Time eater or any of the titans @@OmegaGraves
@ sonic literally grows stronger every second and it’s an official statement
@ saying he lost to a base sonic isn’t an anti feat sonic. is literally just too strong
Gotta be the most glazy sonic fan I've seen😭
Like Ain't gonna lie I was hoping Bowser won but idc who won and how they won, this was peak and the animation was goated
@Enderchomp0968 glaze but i actually know hal
26:57 That reaction lmao 🤣
Tbh Bowser army was always going to outlast eggman simply due to its sheer size, as acoording the Mario and Luigi Brother ship the Koopa Army is Currently 98 Million strong, Eggmans armies in the Comics and Games have never been above 1 Million, to put it in prespective ever 1 badnick would have to take out 10,000 Koop Troop to be even, and considering how easily they go down, Yeah Bowsers army can simply bleed the Eggman Army dry of Soldiers
@@DiamondDuck363 for me it’s quality over quantity i mean yeah there’s more koopa army but realistically majority of that are just goons like goombas
@OmegaGraves Even a Gooma can be a Threat, Just look a Superstar Saga were Capatin Goomba Defeated all 7 Koopalings, Fawful, Bowser Jr and can go toe to toe against the Mario Bros
@@OmegaGravesIt’s not like they can just transform a Goomba into a fake Bowser and have an army of 98 MILLION BOWSERS if they wanted to. No wait, they can, and considering how Mario and Sonic should be similar in stats, the Eggman Empire would instantly get deleted against those odds. The MU is basically them being similar in stats but Bowser outhaxes SO HARD, Eggman basically becomes fodder. (Kamek says NO to any power copying/abilities any of Eggman’s troops can do, any minion with ‘Deny’ can do the same thing, Sage is pretty much useless outside of Cyber Cages due to lack of tech and all the BS Bowser’s side has, and even then, Bowser’s side has dimensional travel, King Boo can trap everyone in paintings, reality warping/transmutation, existence erasure, etc)
Además no nos olvidemos que los 98 millones en el ejército de bowser pueden usar todos los power UPS de Mario incluyendo las cerezas que te duplican además que bowser, sus hijos y los magikoopas tienen magia y pueden convertir a las máquinas de Bergman en bloques incluso máquinas como el death egg y como dijeron los poderes de bowser sin power UPS no necesitan mucho tiempo ni preparación por adelantado además infinite aumento la gravedad y no pudo atención a su entorno asique el thwomp le cayó con mucha más velocidad y peso y lo peor no murió pero quedó fuera de combate por su propia culpa además recordemos que las máquinas de bowser como sus barcos o castillos son igual de rápidos en ir al espacio que el egg Mobile además la diferencia en lo del ejército es que bowser a diferencia de eggman pelea en la primera fila eggman no le importan sus tropas lo que las hace perderlas constantemente mientras que las tropas de bowser se pierden menos al no recibir los mayores ataques debido a que su líder los cubre por eso al final eggman perdió porque perdió a metal que hizo todo, su flota se destruyó por el agujero negro del Rayo de la grand star, ahuyenta a todo su ejército con el Rayo del death egg, no tenía el phantom rugby ni energía para ser light Man, sage se llevo las esmeraldas al death egg el cual fue convertido en lucky block con ella dentro así neutralizandola, lo peor bowser tenía más formas aún a la mayoría de su ejército y tantos powerups que podían resucitar a todo el ejército muerto con power UPS o magia, sage no podía con las posibilidades y eggman perdió por arrogante porque cuando bowser se engañó por el de coy se recelo el solo que no murió, no llevo sus mejores robots, no comprobó si bowser de verdad cayó, sino que se mostró antes de asegurarse e ignoro su entorno lo que si no fuera por metal hubiera recibido el golpe inicial de bowser fury e incluso como se mostró en los escenarios alternativos sus mejores armas serían neutralizadas y aunque no les guste se investigo y comprobó Mario party es Canon además al inicio del video en la cajita negra arriba se decía que solo iban a sacar cosas canon en los juegos y no en crossover dejando fuera a smash Bros y los cómics de archie, además si el Rayo del golpe final de bowser no es un smash ni nada es parte de la marca de animación de moro.
Tbf even if metal sonic cant be erased, he can still be transmuted or have his energy siphoned and chaos control wont work as bowsers lesser powerups can counter time stops like his basic wand he uses and can call back telepathically, also magic is infinite; technology is not and even the chaos emeralds can be siphoned, oh and king boo is immune to reality warping and gravity control, and the reason why infinite was killed by a thwomp was because infinite increased gravity tenfolds and the thwomp would have a crushing effect as any object would be more deadly if gravity was increased
infinite energy in the chaos emeralds btw
@OmegaGraves archie comics metal sonic is immune to existence erasure yes, but not video game/idw comics metal sonic, shit just base bowser was able to survive a grand star blowing up the entire mario universe in Super Mario Galaxy, Eggman or even metal sonic or super metal sonic have never taken a universe implosion to the face before/yet
@@OmegaGraves if you want something even more crazy, they didnt even use dreamy bowser whos immune to any time/erasing/and reality effects and is his most powerful form
@@diegoadam9158 the whole plot of sonic generations? i was referencing generations metal sonic who survived the time eater destroying all of space-time
@@OmegaGraves oh om
Death Battle usually doesn't get 100% of the stuff right its hit or miss. But tbh, if they were to get more accurate stuff, I aint gonna lie, Bowser didn't even need his army or any other forms tbh😭
Bro NO WAY Infinite is stronger than Solaris, actually, wasn't the End the strongest foe of Sonic?
I remember the End calling each of Sonic's previous encounters as "Finite", unlike him who is truly infinite, endless or whatever, in this I truly believe that the End was including Solaris in that statement.
@@kepabra3782 the statement was made pre frontiers the end is the strongest
@@OmegaGraves ahh right ok ok.
So if you say Solaris is 7d or something, is the end like, 8 or 9?
I don't know much about the full scale of Sonic nor Mario, so I really can't contribute to the debate other than the few notions that I have for each verse.
@ yeah i would say solaris is around 6D lowball or 7D and you have to remember bro in phase 2 went a step up in dimensionality it’s crazy solaris was basically omnipotent existing in the past present and future but then future sonic villains just cliff him
You can get mario to hyperversal if you actually tried but both sonic and Mario are equal using consistant scaling
King boo is just built different 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥 (but id crown was intangible like him so I don’t know why metal could flinch it out of his head)
@@ThegrandKrild idek bro
People underestimate the power of a big ass rock, yeah if you move out of the way of it, its basically harmless, but infinite didn't do that so of course he got one shotted.
Plus infinite was boosting the gravity. So King Boo used something that used gravity. He out played Infinite at his own game.
Both Mario and Sonic's cosmology are equal neither has a significant edge but if you want a technical answer then Mario has the bigger cosmology than Sonic, There are Dreams and Dreams in the Mario Universe are Infinite Universe in size sure there are the arabian nights which are infinite universes but according to the research there are only 100 arabian nights which would mean 100 additional infinite universe BUT There are more Universes of Dreams in the Mario universe, consideringthe Pi'illos and all the people in the island powered the dream stone by their dreams that means there are way more Dreams than there are arabian nights
@@Spider-Mario the arabian nights aren’t the only parallel universes in sonic. There has been multiple statements from characters and data books that state there are an infinite amount of parallel universe through the power of the stars from rush adventure which the time eater CONSUMED AND ERASED and created his own dimension filled with no time flow that holds different parts of the cosmology in it and the fact sonic’s speed was so fast he can restore spacetime just by RUNNING and metal constantly scales to sonic in IDW above him at the time and infinite with the phantom ruby and the death egg robot amped by the ruby also scale above the time eater
@@OmegaGraves even with those in mind Bowser can still take all of them Metal sonic, The Egg Salamander, and Time Eater he scales to someone above them all, Dimentio, he was capable of destroying time and space and destroying the entire infinite Mario multiverse even the concepts of the universes as well and Bowser could hold his own against him
Love your reaction 👍. You earned a sub
@@ramzisalim2592 thank you bro i appreciate you heavy🙏🏾
A possible alterative scene, which might be significant to the outcome: th-cam.com/video/Iy-xTBDf67M/w-d-xo.htmlsi=5p9LTqLSKYjzw4t9
To settle up the stuff with Infinite, he was increasing the force of gravity on Bowser’s army. Bowser’s occupied with using his magic to keep more of his troops from biting the big one. King Boo can float, and manipulate space in some form or another, and a thwomp is a big, heavy spiked slab of rock. I don’t have the scientific equation on hand, but Infinite has been outwitted before, and if he wasn’t paying attention to the only enemy not affected by his attack, that was his own fault.
why so salty😆
Death Battle disrespected Infinite more than his freaking Debut game, and that's saying something with their beef with Sonic
"their beef with Sonic"
And yet, they still had Sonic characters win with:
- Metal Sonic (against both Eggman and Wily)
- Sonic (against Mario (2011))
- Tails (against Luigi)
- Amy Rose (against Ramona Flowers)
- Shadow (against Ryuko)
- Archie Silver (against Xeno Trunks)
Plus, one of the DB creators said explicitly to be a fan of the Archie Sonic comics fan. So, I wouldn't say they have beef with Sonic and the characters (except for what they did with Shadow vs Mewtwo, f*ck that episode).
@@Sh1k1ru literally bruh
Ts is crazy that all im gonna say (should've had me in the vid)
@@lmao_juno okay bro you in another one💔💔💔
@@OmegaGraves this battle was so rigged
39:32 here’s something they forgot or probably didn’t even look at.
Sure Bowser managed to conquer the Mario universe in super Mario Galaxy but Tails stated in Sonic Generations. If Eggman kept using the time eater he threatened an entire Sonic multiverse of timelines. Matter of fact the time eater was also able to bring back pieces of the timeline that were erased from existence that being Sonic 06
@@joekool0078 like bro the lowball is insane bruh
Even if that was brought up the victor would not CHANGE Bowser has held his own against Dimentio a being capable of destroying the entire infinite Mario multiverse and both multiverses are infinite with no significant edge plus Dimentio was capable of not erasing a universe but its concept as well so hence if Bowser can hold his own against that then he has no problem doing the same against Time Eater also Time Eater could not survive the Dream Stone wishing him out of existence
@ the time eater LITERALLY preformed the feat that you suggested and LITERALLY has a dimension outside of the fabric of existence where it still exists
They missed and didn’t even bring out everything Eggman had and it would’ve helped him win
Such as Mecha Sonic, Omega, Jweled Scepter, Master Emerald and Super Emeralds and a few statements
@@joekool0078 super emeralds and the sol emeralds with the egg salamander would be overkill
Bro said Omega...
You'll have an easier time justifying why Sonic should be here than Omega
Okay, so... *ahem*
- They DID bring those up in the analysis, and black pop-ups appearing on the up-right corner. And yes, Eggman DOES have those things he could use against Bowser, but the turtle-dragon could counter and/or surpass with his very own items and McGuffins (Power/Grand Stars, Star Rod, Wonder Flower, Dream Stone, Pure Hearts, etc.)
- Mecha Sonic Mk. II (the one who faced Sonic and Knuckles separately) has long discarded his loyalty to the Eggman Empire, and became the protector of the Scrapnik Island. So, he wouldn't have any interest in joining Eggman again.
And even if he did, and could turn into Super Mecha Sonic, not only would be weaker than most Eggman's current and strongest robots (including Metal Sonic, who has become MUCH stronger, despite Mecha being created AFTER him), but his Super form barely last a minute, something that got him folded by a base Classic Knuckles. So yeah.
- And, pffft... Seriously? E-123 OMEGA, joining EGGMAN? The ONE robot has absolutely HATES the doctor's guts more than even Sonic himself, that would try to gun him down on sight the moment he tries to approach him? Hell, IF he was there, I wouldn't even be surprised if he cheered for Bowser killing Eggman.
Only one valid is the Master Emerald
- Mecha Sonic is weaker than Metal Sonic and he's long abandoned Eggman as per IDW's Scrapnik Island arc
- Omega? Seriously? His entire thing is hating Eggman and wanting to destroy him and His robots, doesn't make sense for him to be on Eggman's Side
- They did mention the jeweled scepter in Eggman's arsenal, they Even brought up the Egg Wizard during Eggman's Breakdown, You did not watch the video
- Super Emeralds are not usable since 3&K, they're currently residing in a different dimension and Eggman's has never Even used them
@@mauricioreyesm3988 I did watch the video they didn’t even use it in the fight