Liquid Damaged ASUS Laptop EeeBook X205TA - Trying to FIX
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ค. 2021
- Hi, here we a have a little ASUS EeeBook X205TA sent in to my PO box by a viewer named Chris. It had a cup of tea spilt on it, and since then the keyboard, trackpad and the battery no longer works.
My PO Box is:
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Remember that this is just for entertainment and I am not an expert in these repairs. The processes in the video may not be the best way, the correct way or the safest way to fix these things. I do love fault finding and trying to fix broken things, so I hope that comes across in this 'Trying to FIX' series. Many thanks, Vince. - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Spoiler Saver & Riddle
How many numbers from 1 to 100, have the letter 'A' in their spellings?
@@StevenShaw Well done Steve 😎
Ha! None of them do! Never heard that one before. Excellent puzzle!
Zero! LOL
I counted to 100 just to make sure but yeah none of them do lol
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Sending you a liquid damaged device with a bottle of liquid is just pure genius.
Great video as always vince I’ve been watching since the very beginning I’m disabled I have a chronic leg condition and uncontrolled epilepsy so as you can imagine I have a lot of time on my hands and thanks to you and your videos I’ve been able to attempt to fix things around the ho e and for our children and for that I’m very grateful thanks vince
Jonathan
You are an amazing diagnostician. Being a mechanic for 30 + years I truly believe you are gifted. Twelve thumbs up.
Hi Vince!
Thanks to your great channel I just finished my first successful repair of a DAB radio in our house. In the past I would have dumped it and got a new one but you inspired me to take it apart and find the fault.
What a great feeling to see it working again. 😀
You can try to fix battery. In there is ic bq30z55 which need to recalibrate if battery goes flat. To do that you need to short sda and scl contacts to ground for min 5 sec (yellow and white wires on battery connector) Also that chip has fuse pin that will blowup fuse if he detects that something is wrong with battery. You can find that fuse at the middle right side on battery board. Keep in mind that fuse have 3 pins and all need to have continuity.
I closed 3 contacts and the voltage appears for a little and disappears again...sry my eng is bad
Help please, new battery so $$$
When that black plastic ribbon lock came off I actually said " oh no! " , Good fault finding on this one albeit very frustrating design with everything floating through that chip. It's almost like ASUS intended this laptop for the landfill within a 5 year period looking at that battery design and keyboard being plastic welded to prevent the right to fix. Thumbs up as always !
Yes, why so rough on that clip?
After having some accidents/repairs with damaged locking clips, i am always extremely careful with disconnecting those.
A good, old-fashioned Trying to fix video. Love it.
Nice work again Vince!
You inspired me.. I bought a broken high end coffee maker on ebay and it turned out to be a damaged tray sensor/switch. Thank you Vince
It would be something that I would never be able to buy full price
Wonder if this classifies as a tea break fix? Awesome video dude, thanks Vince
That was very tricky but a successful repair all the same, great job.
Vince between the microscope and the ultrasonic cleaner you're getting to quite the tool collection, very excited for you and for the great repairs we'll see going forward
He definitely needs a hot air station. Would have saved much time desoldering/soldering of the SIO chip.
Great video as always vince
Awesome! It looked like you were going to be unlucky with this one! Hopefully your Ali Express chips and a new battery will sort out the second one too. 👍
Thanks Steve. I thought it would be a lot easier since the majority of it was already working. I was wrong! 🤣
great repair, as always
The U.K. should offer spilled tea insurance for computer purchases.
Vince is the Prince (of repairs)
Keep up the good work fella and stay safe
That chip is called the SIO (Super Input/Output) it controls the startup of all the power supplies, the battery charge control circuit & keyboard if it was faulty the computer wouldn't work also the battery won't charge if it's below it's threshold charge voltage the SIO will say NO!
The VERY 1st thing you test on a non-working board is the input MOSFETs which are also controlled by the SIO then do you have 3.3V on the SIO if so you then check all power supplies for a short to ground & Vcore power supply will always be very low resistance.
The SIO is the startup control chip & can in some/most cases on a laptop have the BIOS in them so you can't just buy a new blank IC & install it, it won't work unless it's been flash with the bios!
Just a little knowledge for a VERY obvious noob who has NO idea what they're doing!
I'm glad you done thai Vince great fix
Well done vince :-D
That chip (super io) near the keyboard connector starts the machine, reads the bios, does the keyboard, keeps an eye on the power side and lots of other things.
Its programming for that particular machine is in the same chip the bios image is in.
A lot of the pins on that chip are definable by the programming.
Never look at a diagram for a different machine that uses the same chip.
The pins will be doing different things.
It connects to the power on button.
Wow.. this was hard but it works and you saved it.
fair play Vince you got to the bottom of it, I have no idea how you determined it was that chip but you was correct. Shame you had to buy another laptop for it but at least it wasn't to expensive lol.
Thanks for the video.
Thank you! What strange thing that batteri is not working after holding that kind of voltage. But good fun to watch!
A perfect laptop to do a smart mirror with, thin and bright screen is all you need.
Take care!
Thanks Anders. Yeah I thought it would have worked. Hopefully when it goes out to the wider audience the answers might come in 👍
Love all your videos 😍
Your channel is great!!
ITE chip ( super IO or EC (embedded controller)) controls the the keyboard, touchpad, charging, power rails and a few other low level stuff on the notebook some EC chips needs to be programmed , some do reprogram them self's. EC chip talks to the charger ic by I2C bus (SMBus), Battery have an bms and and locks out if the battery is damage in anyway
Thanks for the tips as always AR👍
I think that chip is called SuperIO - it's handling keyboard inputs and also trackpad :) great fix as always!
Nice fix Vince .It looks like these small form factor boards use chips for multiple functions as a cost saving, after all a dollar here or there on a low-priced model soon adds up.
I've been using that laptop for about 6 years and still works.
Very nice fix👍
As you know the ITE chip is the super io chip controls a multitude of things including keyboard
Love your videos
great work bro
Well Done Vince great fix. Have a suggestion for a new video, Squeaky Floorboard Fix lol. Mick 👍🍻🤣🤣🤣
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Fantastic video mate very interesting indeed new sub here
You should do a video installing NeverWare on an underpowered Windows PC. It effectively turns it into a decent Chromebook. Love your videos!
Hi, you are the person who helped me so damn much
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One thing to note about laptop batteries, most modern ones from reputable manufacturers have a controller on them that keeps track of the battery's health. If a battery drops below safe voltage, that controller will prevent it from charging until the status bit is cleared. You need special hardware to read/write to the battery controller.
hey My Mate Vince, watched a lot of video's from the Cod3r and he talks a lot, mentioned you quite some times.
so i have subscribed, i did hear you mention the slow loading times in your video at the end while loading a you-tube video, possible power related, but it is not the power for sure, you have windows 10 installed, and the minimal requirements of win 10 were not up to spec.
If i remembered you video correct, it was 2 gb memory chips and 4gb is minimum for lag free windows.
it works with 2gb for sure, you just have to be a bit more patient while browsing internet or loading a program,
or search for a minimal win 10 setup online, you could make your own win 10 build, so lots of bloatware is not around in win 10.
good video thanks
Thanks Raphael for the comments and the sub 👌
@@Mymatevince no problem ;p
nice work, as always!
I'm curious, if the new Keyboard/charging controller-Chips may give those books the opportunity to charge the depleated batteries again, after you pushed them up to ~4V with your external charger. maybe this is worth a revisit video?
Excellent =D Regards the keyboard not working after you "did some stuff" (spoiler saver) - if it has been used with a USB keyboard previously, that is probably the default. Sometimes just removing any other keyboards listed in Device Manager and doing a scan for hardware changes is sufficient to get it to default back to the built in keyboard! PS: I spotted the left hand side of that IC miss aligned by 1 pin lol, just as the hot air came out! ;)
Haha, yeah there was no coming back from that so the hot air had to come out! 🤣 Cheers Chris.
@@Mymatevince We've all been there ;)
On the topic of windows 10, i bought a laptop ages ago with windows 10, and it sucked. It took 5 mins to open up chrome, so i thought hell, I’ll put windows 8 on it, so i did, and it was so snappy. Later down the line i decided to sell it to Cash Converters as i built a gaming pc, and they decided to put windows 10 back on it. No idea why, but very poor choice on their behalf. Great video as always vince!
Thanks for your awesome channel. What flux are you using for your SMD hot air soldering?
I thought i had the same Problem. i turned on my ASUS X205TA, and Keyboard, D-PAD, and Sound was not working anymore. But in my case is was an Windows 10 Update. Now it is fixed, and it works Still today in 2024 And i can paly even Minecraft on it, not the java one :D
It is a Great and simple Internet netBook, and it has no SSD it has a very slow EMMC the downside on thei little device.
Thank you for that Interessting Video.
Good fix did not think you could fix it then!!!
I have this same laptop and the battery seems to be in two parts and one part seized up with no voltage but they need to work together for total voltage from memory so i just took out the battery and run it on its little charger which works great. its light , compact and if you want more memory, you can just add a memory card to add to its low 32 GB. Very good little machine i think and i got it for $30 as batt was bad.
Please charge your batteries using a bench power supply. It is not hard not dangerous. Apply voltage appropriate to the cell count. 1=4, 2=8, 3=12 etc.
There is protective circuits on many battery packs. You can reset or replace the BMS chips in the packs. No need to trash the cells. Deep discharge reduces their capacity a bit but most are salvageable.
Well you did mention it was a power management chip, so it makes sense for it to be handling battery charge as well.
52% bismuth 32% lead 16% tin solder melts at 95°C. It's probably not using that, but that's the worst case.
A good number of lead/tin mixtures melt below 200°C, too. Adding silver often makes it melt at even lower temps. You may well have resoldered the CPU by blasting it at 200°C.
Either way, I guess that's what it needed.
Hi Vince, just a note, I'm pretty sure when it says plugged in, it's not talking about the battery. It's talking about the charging cable being plugged in. Have a great day!
The fact that the EC/SuperIO chip died only partially and kept the laptop still mostly functional was quite surprising for me, usually when they fail there are no signs of life as they handle power button and lights, keyboard, some I/O, charging and the whole bootup sequence before the BIOS takes over.
Ah! Finally I know how to pronounce Asus! Now for the rest of the vid!
Hey Vince, Canadian here, love watching your content. Question that I can’t seem to find the answer to on Google: why do capacitors usually short near chips with a short in them? In your and tronixfix videos you guys both usually start searching for shorted caps to pinpoint potentially failed chips. Why does that happen?
happy ending....Your efforts will not go in vain :)
It would have ended in the bin, but not here, nice one!
You need to reset the battery management system of the battery board if you're going to charge the cells independently.
The keyboard IC is probably shorting the I2C lines out preventing communication on the bus.
the chip that you replaced is the LPC Controller, Low Pin Count it handles all Power to different devices. Most motherboards have them its now Legacy. it is also known as the Super IO take a look here. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_I/O i have replaced quite a few of them.
i am the only one who chuckled, when he said "i am just scraping her between the legs" ?!!
Multiple faults are the worst. You need to get 'I bought another one' on your merch
If you wanted to make that laptop a bit more snappy, you could try installing Chrome OS onto it, it works nicely for browsing the web and using web apps, and it also runs Android apps (that however is a bit harder to get running if it's not running on a legit Chromebook) and Linux programs. Maybe give it a go?
Yeah check out cloudready, the open source version of chrome OS, works great for me
Edit: link. www.neverware.com/#intro
I would describe the taste of Irn-Bru being similar to the taste of bubblegum.
A tip is to put the board in the oven at 120c for 15 minutes after you've cleaned it to get rid of any water/IPA that has gone under the chips :)
Battery packs often have a lockout mechanism where as soon as it's below the safe voltage it will permanently refuse to charge. The only way to reset it is with the programming tool from the chip manufacturer.
There are some cheap charging circuits with micro usb ports that charge any battery even if it's voltage is at 0V
And btw, regarding the batteries, some times the batteries need to be disconnected from the circuit so it accepts the batteries again and the circuit allows them to charge again.
Great video. Next time, plug a keyboard and mouse in and check those setting first.
acquired that same unit and have decided to remove and replace the 32gb to 128gb chip
You are so smart
I am in the process of getting a similar laptop to this for very cheap, it is an HP and though it has some pretty decent specs, the SSD is much too small to support Windows. My plan is to buy an optical drive to hdd adapter and install a second drive, then to put it in my collection as a decently specced laptop, not one with a crippling issue like low storage.
20:50 One pin of the keyboard beeps in two pins in the chip that Vince is currently working
Excellent! thank you.
Just what I needed to learn that the one I recently acquired is not worth the effort required to access the system which is locked down under bitlocker. It would have been a donation to someone in need. SELDOM do I sit through a 40 minute how to.
When you've been charging the batteries, did you have the bottom covers on? mainly ram cover, some laptops have a microswitch under the ram cover that prevents the laptop turning on with a battery and charging if the microswitch isn't pressed by the ram cover.
May not be the case here, but one I've been stumped on before.
I would charge the cells to at least 3,7V I don’t think 3,0 is enough. I could also be a battery protection thing in the battery (like a software fuse) but normally that is not the case on cheaper stuff. I had problem with a bose soundlink where the battery was not recoverable because of some weird software fuse…
Could be that the battery has a cycle counter on board that 'defects' the battery after lets say 2000 cycles, hence the battery not charging state.
Awesome video, just curious why you fast forward rather than just letting it run as you talk all the way through, i've watched other videos on repairs and they are sometimes over 90 mins but i find there is lots to learn by just watching what you may feel is not useful info.
laptop batteries usually last between 18 to 24 months ,maybe 36 months at a push , before they become bad ,depending on how many charge cycles it has done in its lifespan . so i usually change a laptop battery every 2 years or so . so it not unusual for a battery from a laptop from 2016 to be faulty .
Just curious: What have you used as cleaning agent for the ultra sonic procedure? ;-)
BTW: The ITE chip you have replaced is also called the "Super IO" chip. This chip does a load of things! power button behaviour, emergeny shutdown if voltages are not present, the startup routine of the laptop and so on.
Thanks Markus. In the ultrasonic cleaner I have de-ionised water and PCB cleaner and flux remover made by Mistral. it was the stuff available on Amazon at the time 👍
@@Mymatevince Hallo Vince, this super IO chip or KBC (keyboard controller) or EC(embedded controller) have a program inside. Some types of this chips can download a program from bios chip, but same types must be programed by an external programmer like a SVOD v3. I'm not sure how it is with this chip, but it is possible that without programming a new chip will not work for you. Since I can find the IT8568E in any database, it is quite probable that the chip is non-programmable, so it will download the necessary firmware after connection. So good luck, hopefully the work will succeed.
Hi sir my same laptop is stuck with black screen problem and only shows the cursor and boot option also not showing pendrive
This is cool
I had a similar battery problem with an asus ux305. I charge low-volt lithium cells with a CV/CC buck converter typically set at 4.1v but 50ma until they reach 2.5v and then at C/2. I also found the laptop rejected the charged battery but I had a small 2 cell bms which I fitted in place of the one on the battery. I connected the bms output to the laptop battery connector +ve and -ve but left the third wire at the connector open and found that (with PSU connected) the battery would take a slow charge but the laptop always thought it was at 0%. If I start the laptop from mains it will keep running from battery but, without the mains PSU, it will not try to start as the laptop cannot communicate with my new bms.
Good video however was it worth fixing you can buy laptops cheaper than getting it fixed I truly support your effort tho salute and respect brother
You can also swap (solder) the 32gb emmc SSD for a 64+GB emmc SSD.
What aboyt ram?
Very very hard!!!🎉
Awesome
Learn this vince check laptop power 19v power butten 3.2 or bios leg 8 usb 5v test the bord on this volts or the all volts to find on ITE chip
black cutscenes is strong in this video.
hmm it boots w/o a keaboard or does work keaboard in dos? like in c mos
you can remove windows os from the laptop and flash android. that way it would use the low end hardware of those laptops. and yes, android in pc is fast.
name of OS: android x86, primeOS, BlissOS
That laptop might be an under powered as fuck, but for 30 dollars, I'd so buy one. lol
Ever thought of trying to find another sponsor? As much IPA you go through you should contact them... :p
Them? You think there is a single company who produces isopropyl alcohol?
Hi Vince would love to see you tackle some Vape products or Chromebooks
it came out in 2014 and it shipped with windows 8.1 on X205TA
What's the music you used at 28:41?
Any tutorials on how to connect PS5's Dualsense to PS4/PS4 Pro?
As usual, interesting and fun repair! But as we all know "intel inside" machines are destined for the landfill!
32GB seems an odd size for an SSD - they went from 20GB to 30GB to 40GB back in the day. it's far more likely to be an eMMC (embedded multi media card) drive which is like a memory card acting as the hard drive. so technically it is "solid state", but won't be fast like a real SSD, rather more like hard drive speed if not worse.
I had a weak laptop before I moved to desktops, but it came with a hard drive that died after only 1 year, so I replaced it with my first SSD, but the CPU was too weak to actually benefit from what would've been the faster drive speed, so I'm guessing it's a similar case here.
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My mother's laptop is nearly the same problem (battery wise), but it has very slow charging and it will die very quickly for around 2 minutes or less from full to dead.