@Jermy Wermy Like if I saw someone that look like Kratos walking straight in my direction, because I am in front of the gates of heaven, yeah I would most likely just let him walk in no question ask.
@@dragonknightmaster5471 yeah. although he still like that for eternity like when they mention that cronos was condemned to wonder in tartaros forever.
Ratatoskr: Who tended your World Tree back home? Kratos: There was no World Tree, but there was The World Pillar which was held by the Titan Atlas as punishment from the Gods. Ratatoskr: WHAT!? But what if he lets the Pillar Fall? Kratos: He tried. I put him back.
@@StoneColdElvisCat316 also a lot of humans that were in the wrong place at the wrong time. And that guy who was out of his burning house and in the way of kratos
@@StoneColdElvisCat316 Bollocks if he wasn't an asshole In God of War 2 attacking other cities left and right no one on Olympus whould give a damm just like they did with Ares. With the exception of Ares using his family , Kratos suffering is self inflicted. No one forced him to be a cunt with everyone he met.
@@StoneColdElvisCat316 *AHEM AHEM* Remember Poseidon's Princess? Yeah, the one he used as a fucking doorstopper? What exactly did she do? "Deserved it" because she is Poseidon's unwilling enslaved concubine? You think some small woman gonna attack Kratos or stand in his way? No, Kratos literally entered her chambers, dragged her right to that metal door (very aggressively I might add, pushing her around the entire way) then attached her to the wheel. He then left while she was screaming for help and begging him not to leave her there, then you hear her getting crushed after you pass the door. What about Midas? He beat the shit out of him and then threw him into a pool of lava, so that he can get across, even though he probably could've found another way past if he just looked around for some rock formation to use as a bridge. Kratos is a fucking asshole. He murdered many innocents on his path to vengeance, not just the ones I stated, even if some of the murders could've been avoided. He literally murdered whatever seemed to breathe in his path. How are you gonna speak in defense of this man unironically?
Fun fact both cultures now each another even at that ancient time period. Norse called greecia to all countries in the Mediterranean even if they were not part of the Greek states And Greek call the Norse hiperboreals Because they believe they live in the lands of the god boreals the god of north wind
"How did you travel from realm to realm? How did you get Olympus?" "Climbed." "How did you get to Hades?" "Dug." "How did you get to Poseidon?" "Swam." "GOOD GOD, man! No wonder you left."
He’s actually shown in the comics, Fallen God, that he rode the seas and walked alone all the way to Egypt and met one of their gods. He didn’t care where he went as long as the blades left him alone. He just kept walking and kept himself awake (even hurting himself to do so) so he can outrun the blades of chaos but he can never. So it would make sense he just walked for months to years and ended up in fhe woods where he met Faye.
@@indeepjable the Crane-headed one, Toth. He is the God of Wisdom like Athena, and Kratos having a vision (or hallucination) with both of them present in the comic
I don't think him going to Egypt was canon tho. There's an artifact you can find in the game (an Ankh I believe) and Kratos' notes say that he wishes to visit that realm someday, worded in a way like he's never been there. I've also heard from other people that the novels aren't canon to the game lore.
@@whatm8516 it’s not canon and been stated to be a spin off many many many times. People are just hanging on to the Egyptian pantheon for dear life even tho it would probably be next in line.
You are right about kratos being able to just walk to Norse realms if he was motivated enough. But the comic isn’t canon there is a novel tho where a masked woman presumably Faye, attacked him and dragged him back to the Norse pantheon area(Scandinavia? I believe)
@@saplkereviz6824 there were pillars holding the world up, and in Chains of Olympus, Atlas and Persephone conspired to destroy them. They did, but Kratos stopped their plans, killing Persephone, and Atlas ended up stuck under the world, forced to hold it up as punishment.
Well, Kratos first went to Egypt and then to Midgard, but I was hoping to have an explanation like portals or going to the end of the world of each realm to jump to another.
In the novelization of God of War 2018, Kratos has a dream of when he was walking the lands he's from, a hooded woman with 3 wolves appear. The wolves attacked Kratos and when they were done fighting, he was in Midgard. The novel heavily implies this was a memory of Faye, Fenrir, Sköll and Hati (though Kratos does not know their identities) bringing him to Midgard through the wolves special abilities, rather than a dream.
Buut in previous game there were greek people who rebuild their civilization depicted on a vase after Kratos’ destruction. This should be answered too. But nooo we have ragnarooooögggk!
Kratos: No squirrel, it’s not that confusing. You see, we had a mountain that at it’s peak seated the thrones of the gods. Ratatoskr: Alright, following you so far. Kratos: And our afterlife wasn’t another realm, it was just underground. Ratatoskr: You held your dead and the living all within a climbing distance of each other?! Kratos: It’s not like they could just walk out in and out any time they wanted… I mean… most of them. There was a three headed dog guarding the entrance, and the four armed Titan Atlas held the ceiling up so the living world and Olympus didn’t collapse in. … and also so that Gaia and Tartarus couldn’t conceive any more monsters to threaten Olympus. Ratatoskr: … You’re land seems like it was quite unstable violent and horny. Kratos: You are not wrong, talking squirrel.
Honestly tho, I really would like an explanation for how the world works. Because Mimir talks about his knowledge of Greece like it's not that strange to come into contact with Greek people, it's just relatively uncommon because of distance. Like are they all just on the same Earth and traveling from Greece to the Norse region was just a matter of traveling? If I had to guess, presumably what the characters in these current games refer to as Midgard is just Earth and it's effectively the same as our Earth beyond the presence of all these mythological figures. And then the cosmology of the different pantheons are all connected to the specific regions of this Earth but not tied to other regions that have their own pantheons. But I would very much like to know, what _is_ the connection between these different realms and pantheons.
Midgard seems to refer to the Norse part of the world. Mimir himself also travelled north to leave the British Isles. They just get on a boat and keep sailing.
I'm guessing the different realms are like different pocket dimensions stacked upon one another and connected by the world tree, where they're all about as large as the Norse region that's classified as midgard, so that's why Greece doesn't have its own world tree or the 9 realms.
Also if they are on different worlds, how do you explain Greco-Persian wars? In nu-gow Kratos says that he was in Termophylae, am I wrong? So they must have fought with people worshipping of other pantheons
Yeah, if you read Greek Stories, it pretty much tells of people just entering the Underworld just by walking or by boat. Odyseus did it during his journey to return home. Heck, in the God of War 2 ending, olympus is just a high mountain that can be climbed.
Mount Olympus is MASSSIVE in God of war. If a Mortal fell from the top, it would take 3 days to hit the bottom. If you're a god (or titan too I guess) tho, you fall faster. That's why Poseidon fell to the ocean so quickly ik gow3
Funny how only a limited few gods, like Mimir and Tyr, have travelled to these other 'realms' but no one but Kratos seem to grasp that these 'realms' are a literal walking distance or a boat trip away. Though maybe it's good the Aesir and Olympians think they're in other planes of existence cause it'd be apocalypse for real if they knew they could walk to each others' backyards
There was a plan for GOW 3 and later games to be about other pantheons spilling into Greece to fill in the power vacuum. I'm guessing all out pantheon war is just too much effort for what it's worth. Especially when killing certain gods like Poseidon will destroy the land in some way.
I mean in one of the prequel games for GOW it's mentioned that Ares was starting shit in Egypt, so it wasn't unknown that these other lands existed it was really just a matter of not caring too much about these other deities and their cultures when you have your own to deal with on a daily basis.
@@rikusawada6113 That and like in real life, just because you go marching into someone else's yard to take theirs, somebody can do the same to while while you're preoccupied. So yeah, Odin could send some of his heavy hitters to take a chunk of Greece...but those Slavic gods from the East could see a powerhouse like Thor is out and send some of their guys to do the same and take a chunk of their territory.
I like to think that both mythologies link by dimensional rift. So Greek and Norse in this case are essentially earth from a different universe. But pieces of their world and other mythologies is stitched together to form a planet like our earth but only when you look it on the outside because when you are inside in any piece of that earth you essentially in different planet. Like how different part of our world have difference religion but in a larger scale. Where each religion/country is essentially it own planet.
ratotaskr is more of a divine being than a godlike entity, if that makes any sense, so he has more a scope similar to mortals than a gods, fairly unusual considering his importance to the balance of the realms.
He's not quite a god. As he says, he is keeper of the Tree and gets some 'bonuses' from it, but he can't leave the Tree or these 'bonuses' will disappear, including his immortality.
@@KT-in3wb Which makes sense. The Tree is suppose to be something that is so omnipresent and enduring that it even survives the end of the world. So I imagine living upon the tree and what not would bestow some of that.
Some of my friends were saying that Greece was in it's own realm and after Kratos killed all the gods the realm started falling apart and he escaped through a portal or something like that. That didn't sit right with me because as I understand it, Midgard is the world where everyone is. You, your mom, dad, siblings, everyone is part of Midgard. Therefore it only made sense to me that Kratos walked and sailed away from Greece, to get away from the land that had tortured him and that he destroyed.
Technically some realms in Greece required portal in order to access it sometimes, such as the Domain of Death or some parts of the underworld. It required special keys or Hades’ soul however.
Pro puts so much energy into the character his off script stutters and the tone shifts make it so life like I really wish more voice acting in gaming was like this.
Ratatoskyr’s disbelief over their not being a World Tree in Greece makes given the fact that he’s a Squirrel, it’s pretty hard to imagine life that doesn’t involve him living in a great tree even before he evolved to who he is today.
"My homeland rested upon the shoulders of a Titan. In fact, I was the one who trapped him there after he destroyed the pillar that previously held the land." "Hraesvelgr's eggs, man, your homeland sounds so bizarre!"
In Greek mythology the lands of the dead and Olympus itself are part of the same land as the earth. They may be hard to get to and you risk pissing off Zeus going to Olympus (at least one hero has died for trying) but you could at least theoretically climb up to Olympus or down to hades. In Norse mythology you could travel from realm to realm on foot, but it would take a very, very long time. The bifrost (not actually related to cold or ice) is much faster but very dangerous.
In GoW 2018, it's stated that the Nine Realms all occupy the same physical space, just in different planes of existence / dimensions. What I've wondered is what would happen if you went to one of the realms (other than Midgard) and travelled to the physical location of Greece. Like if you went to Helheim and traveled to where Greece would physically be, would you be in Hades? Or would it just be a whole planet's worth of Helheim? I think about this often lol
Each land (mythos) is it’s own universe in which if you travel land to land you’re traveling universe to Universe to other mythologies earth counterparts such as Midgard
Kratos: "Technically, a gargantuan being called a Titan was the world tree. He was punished to hold the entire world on his shoulders after destroying the pillar that held it up." Mimir: "....Are ye fuckin with us, or-" Kratos: "No."
I think a lot of people forget that pantheons or “worlds” literally have almost a flat earth effect at least to my understanding. Now having said that, you’d have to travel 1000’s of miles for that to be the case but Kratos is a god so it’s like like a winter stroll for him 😂
I mentally think that GOW Earth is like having with pocket dimensions depending on the region in which a pantheon of gods hold their domain. Nasuverse from Fate series made it clear how this works. In that universe terms, it's called a texture - a layer, surface of the planet in which this blanket of a reality can become it's own mini-world. This mini-world can stretch depending by people's belief and faith on their gods and the pantheon hold on the territory. The Greek world for example encompassed from the Black Sea - all the way to the - Atlantic Ocean, in which the fabled mythical city of Atlantis reside. The Greek world is fundamentally destroyed after Kratos rebellion. But I don't think the damage spread that much that it would affect the nearby regions with their own set of gods and pantheon. Like Egypt, Persia, and the Norse. It's like having to see your neighbor's house being burned while your house is being protected by a 30 feet wall. So it's safe to say that other pantheons could exist as well alongside others in just one planet. Seeing that the Earth can stored spaces for this mini-worlds in the surface. Ragnarok happened in Fate series but the end-times for the gods and giants there only affected the Norse world which covered from Sweden to Iceland. Midgard jurisdiction likely lies over Scandinavia, particularly in Norway and Sweden.
@@rogueascendant6611that's a good explanation, but I still have one question: What of the afterlife? If you were born in, let's say, Egypt where the spiritual rules of Egyptian Mythology still apply, and you were to travel to the Norse regions where they have their DIFFERENT set of rules and were to die there, would you go to Egyptian afterlife, or Norse afterlife? I'm asking just in case it depends where you're from/which mythology you were born into
The best way I can see this working is that every pantheon and every realm exists in the same place at once but depending on the region different gods and different rules apply to those regions Greece didn’t have a world tree but still had similar gods and creatures each region has a different pantheon and set of rules that pantheon follows.
In Norse whole world is Midgard. But because of political and other stuff Norse has only the north of earth. Tree of life is another stuff. Norse realms look like a layers of lasagne. But instead of destroying each other with their existence. They happen same place and same time.
So from my point of view, Norse and Greece are like countries in our world and on the same planet, right? So did the event when titans create world in Greece affect Norse and vice versa?
Each mythology created their own portion of the world irrespective of neighboring mythologies. It seems that other than Tyr and Kratos, gods and other celestial brings stick to their own backyards and have no interest in other lands.
Each country is basically an entirely different world, but they're transcended by the real earth which the pantheons are viewed the same way we view them in real life.
He never left his "universe". Norse Myth and Greek myth in this game took place in the same universe, just from different countries. What Kratos did was simply sail a boat from Greece to Scandinavia.
When “realm” is mentioned, they mean places like helhiem, muspelheim, or any of the nine realms. In the case of Greece, it would be the underworld where the dead are.
@@drunklord9471 what? But he just said they’ve crossed seas there’s got to be a ton of people that just happen onto random mythology’s then right? Seems like it should be way more common
I’m so surprised… In Valhalla,tyr said “in the years of rebuilding” which meant Kratos didn’t destroy the entire population with his cataclysmic actions 😅😅😅
It's true that a world tree does not appear in mainstream Greek mythology. However the concept wasn't completely unknown to the Greeks. In fact, a world tree - and more specifically a winged oak - does appear in the few surviving fragments of the cosmogony of Pherecydes of Syros (the Pentemuchos): On the third day of the wedding, Zas (Zeus) fashioned a big and beautiful robe, and on it he embroidered Earth and Ogenos (Oceanus) and the mansions of Ogenos. When he had finished his task, he presented the robe to Chthonie (Earth) and said: 'Because I wish to marry you, I honour you with this robe. Rejoice and be my consort!' This they say was the first feast of unveiling, and hence arose the custom for both gods and men. And she responded as she received the robe from him: 'I take this as my honour, and henceforth I shall be called Ge...' The gods celebrated, feasting on ambrosia. And the Earth was like a winged oak, strong and mighty; its roots extended into the depths of Tartaros, its trunk was encircled by Ogenos, and its branches reached into Ouranos. The Earth flourished and Zas rejoiced. Source: Pherekydes of Syros, by Hermann S. Schibli
I mentally think that GOW Earth is like having with pocket dimensions depending on the region in which a pantheon of gods hold their domain. Nasuverse from Fate series made it clear how this works. In that universe terms, it's called a texture - a layer, surface of the planet in which this blanket of a reality can become it's own mini-world. This mini-world can stretch depending by people's belief and faith on their gods and the pantheon hold on the territory. The Greek world for example encompassed from the Black Sea - all the way to the - Atlantic Ocean, in which the fabled mythical city of Atlantis reside. The Greek world is fundamentally destroyed after Kratos rebellion. But I don't think the damage spread that much that it would affect the nearby regions with their own set of gods and pantheon. Like Egypt, Persia, and the Norse. It's like having to see your neighbor's house being burned while your house is being protected by a 30 feet wall. So it's safe to say that other pantheons could exist as well alongside others in just one planet. Seeing that the Earth can stored spaces for this mini-worlds in the surface. Ragnarok happened in Fate series but the end-times for the gods and giants there only affected the Norse world which covered from Sweden to Iceland. Midgard jurisdiction likely lies over Scandinavia, particularly in Norway and Sweden.
This conversation has greater implications for the GoW universe. Apparently every pantheon exists in their own continent as part of a larger world that is also its own world. Kratos actually sailed until he reached the edge of his realm and actually trekked through Egypt as well to get to the Norse realm. Each also has its own equivalent to a world tree and Greeces was Mount Olympus itself. When Kratos destroyed his pantheon he temporarily weakened the barrier between realms and that’s how he escaped without realizing it. This is all talked about in official comics and stuff.
Actually, each patheon is essentially it's own universe as stated by Cory and matt sophos. As said by Matt Sophos within the GI Show, the pantheons and realms contain the full world, such as Niflheim. If you were to travel to Egypt while in Alfheim, you wouldn’t be within Egypt, but Alfheim’s VERSION of Egypt. Furthermore, the Greek pantheon had Egypt, wars like Normandy, Stalingrad, and Desert Storm, alongside countries like Japan. Cory also states this, "the 'actual' god of war's earth geography is the same as our real earth's. the only difference between the two is that within each geographical region, there exists a version of the universe with its dimensions and earth as inspired by the prevelant mythology and local belief system of the people living in that particular region." Furthermore, there are other statements, like Cory blatantly stating that the Gods have universes they have dominions over, and saying that the Gods have their own version of the world. "What I was talking about was the idea that all the mythologies of the world are kinda like this Hubble Telescope Image. They are like galaxies spread out through a complete universe, and the world is the universe. They are sort of the origin stories of various cultures throughout the world, starting from the beginning of time and stretching all the way out, so at any given time all the mythologies existed together - and currently - and they are simply separated by geography. This is important because some people had the conception that Kratos at the end of God of War III destroyed the world. Well, he destroyed what they believed the world was in Greece, their version of the world. Everybody believed their world was the only world; in fact, we still believe that today." Not to mention that you can't even travel between other pantheons without the Unity Stone. "all of them. they have all carved out their piece of history. When talking about the "universe" though, they are - in my mind - referring to the universe's that they themselves have dominion over. "The actual greater universe has yet to be explored." Matt also stated that each realm has its own unique outer space and mimir states that each realm has its own flow of space and time and coexist on yggsdrassil branches which are infinite, thus making them seperate universes.
After the destruction of Olympus and Greece plummet in Chaos, Kratos was force to wander the Earth as he was damned with no place to die. He left the Greece by foot and stumble Upon Egypt. He also tried to dispose the Blades of Chaos for sometimes, before finally accepting what he must do. He finally arriev in Scandinavia and live with Faye the last Jotunn in Midgard and has a child he name Atreus.
Depends on how you look at the layout of the GOW-Verse. If you see it like the Percy Jackson-Verse and all the pantheons are somehow inhabiting the same dimension/earth but just residing over different regions/countries, then Kratos simply walked north from Greece. Maybe add a short boat ride and a wagon pulled by a horse. But if you see the Norse Lands inhabiting a separate World from Greece then maybe he stumbled across a portal and waked through it, therefore he still walked there.
I still find it confusing myself, but the best way I've come to interpret it is that "Midgard" literally refers to all of what we come to call "Earth". Kratos sailed from Greece to Norway essentiially, as these countries all reside in the same realm. The pantheons all reside in their own countries and they seem to harbor any mythological locations within their own slice of Midgard. Such as Mount Olympus, or the Underworld in Greece. The same can be said of the World Tree and its layered realms all descended from their part of Midgard in Norway.
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I mean he climbed Mt. Olympus just to get to Zeus, and he fell down the underworld and walked on foot to the pits of Tartarus.
Ima repeat it "good god man! No wonder you left"
Fell down to underworld and claim hades soul
Saying Kratos just "fell" into Hades is like saying Jesus floated to Heaven. There were many MANY stabbings.
@Jermy Wermy Like if I saw someone that look like Kratos walking straight in my direction, because I am in front of the gates of heaven, yeah I would most likely just let him walk in no question ask.
I'm sure he love to use an uber, but....
Kratos is so kind he didn't want to give Ratatoskr a heart attack about how the world in Greece is being held by a titan for the rest of his life
Atlas eh? I wonder what became of him after all this time...
@@dragonknightmaster5471 probably dead, still holding the world up lmao
@@dragonknightmaster5471 yeah. although he still like that for eternity like when they mention that cronos was condemned to wonder in tartaros forever.
Ratatoskr: Who tended your World Tree back home?
Kratos: There was no World Tree, but there was The World Pillar which was held by the Titan Atlas as punishment from the Gods.
Ratatoskr: WHAT!? But what if he lets the Pillar Fall?
Kratos: He tried. I put him back.
@@AngelArcher17 lol 😂 nice one
If there was a world tree in greece, kratos would've burned it.
Yeah knowing him lol he killed people literally just because they were a centimeter on the way of him Killing zeus or whatever
@@StoneColdElvisCat316 also a lot of humans that were in the wrong place at the wrong time. And that guy who was out of his burning house and in the way of kratos
@@StoneColdElvisCat316 Bollocks if he wasn't an asshole In God of War 2 attacking other cities left and right no one on Olympus whould give a damm just like they did with Ares.
With the exception of Ares using his family , Kratos suffering is self inflicted.
No one forced him to be a cunt with everyone he met.
@@StoneColdElvisCat316 *AHEM AHEM* Remember Poseidon's Princess? Yeah, the one he used as a fucking doorstopper? What exactly did she do? "Deserved it" because she is Poseidon's unwilling enslaved concubine? You think some small woman gonna attack Kratos or stand in his way? No, Kratos literally entered her chambers, dragged her right to that metal door (very aggressively I might add, pushing her around the entire way) then attached her to the wheel. He then left while she was screaming for help and begging him not to leave her there, then you hear her getting crushed after you pass the door.
What about Midas? He beat the shit out of him and then threw him into a pool of lava, so that he can get across, even though he probably could've found another way past if he just looked around for some rock formation to use as a bridge.
Kratos is a fucking asshole. He murdered many innocents on his path to vengeance, not just the ones I stated, even if some of the murders could've been avoided. He literally murdered whatever seemed to breathe in his path. How are you gonna speak in defense of this man unironically?
Technically it would indeed be Olympus as its foot was in the underworld and its top was in the sky
"How does one get to Greece?"
"Go in the direction of Greece."
Fun fact both cultures now each another even at that ancient time period.
Norse called greecia to all countries in the Mediterranean even if they were not part of the Greek states
And Greek call the Norse hiperboreals
Because they believe they live in the lands of the god boreals the god of north wind
@@jhonnysilverhand13 fact: in ancient times all regions across Mediterranean sea were actually Greece.
@@DimosDimaresis except Egypt
Those weird loving triangle people
@@jhonnysilverhand13 there were still Ellines there. Even the Pharaohs were Ellines (Greeks)
in the direction... of burger
"How did you travel from realm to realm? How did you get Olympus?"
"Climbed."
"How did you get to Hades?"
"Dug."
"How did you get to Poseidon?"
"Swam."
"GOOD GOD, man! No wonder you left."
"How did you get to Hades?"
"Died."
Twice
@@fallvec1423 3 times... he dies 3 times 2 by suicide, once by zues(Who he goes back in time to stop from killing him)
@@Stew-lee76 it's 4 deaths now
@@Stew-lee76wasn’t their another by Ares after he first found Pandora’s box? With the massive pillar?
Oh man, Ratatoskr reaction was gold, kudos to the voice actor
Sungwon Cho aka ProZD, I remember his vines and even now his shorts on YT are golden
@@hayvan89ykt prozd is just one of those voice actors where you hear his voice and you instantly know it's him.
I want him to say this line:
Kratos: what the hell are you wearing?
Ratatoskr: it’s my ass kicking outfit bitch!
@@TheOrangex88 "The vehicle part is next!"
Well that guy is Troy baker
ProZD delivers the "good god" with such energy it cracks me up everytime.
Wait it's ProZD???
@@jaquanmurphy4431 it's sungwon cho in the credits is what I meant to say
WHAT
HE DOES VOICES IN THE GAME? Nice love his content.
What it is him!!? What a surprise
He’s actually shown in the comics, Fallen God, that he rode the seas and walked alone all the way to Egypt and met one of their gods.
He didn’t care where he went as long as the blades left him alone. He just kept walking and kept himself awake (even hurting himself to do so) so he can outrun the blades of chaos but he can never.
So it would make sense he just walked for months to years and ended up in fhe woods where he met Faye.
egypt? what god did they encounter?
@@indeepjable the Crane-headed one, Toth. He is the God of Wisdom like Athena, and Kratos having a vision (or hallucination) with both of them present in the comic
I don't think him going to Egypt was canon tho.
There's an artifact you can find in the game (an Ankh I believe) and Kratos' notes say that he wishes to visit that realm someday, worded in a way like he's never been there.
I've also heard from other people that the novels aren't canon to the game lore.
@@whatm8516 it’s not canon and been stated to be a spin off many many many times. People are just hanging on to the Egyptian pantheon for dear life even tho it would probably be next in line.
You are right about kratos being able to just walk to Norse realms if he was motivated enough. But the comic isn’t canon there is a novel tho where a masked woman presumably Faye, attacked him and dragged him back to the Norse pantheon area(Scandinavia? I believe)
I love the implication here. "how did you get to Norse Mythology?"
"I walked."
"but what about the ocean?"
"At the ocean I used a boat."
I think he was referring to his home (I mean Greece)
Technically Atlas is the world tree. He’s the one keeping the world up.
wait if I remember correctly, atlas is still alive right?? holding the world??
@@TheKentanthony ye
@@TheKentanthony Wait wait! If Atlas is holding the world, then what was holding it BEFORE Atlas?
@@saplkereviz6824 there were pillars holding the world up, and in Chains of Olympus, Atlas and Persephone conspired to destroy them. They did, but Kratos stopped their plans, killing Persephone, and Atlas ended up stuck under the world, forced to hold it up as punishment.
@@aceblaz5502 oh i didnt know that thanks. But...
What was holding the World BEFORE the pillars? 🤔
I was hoping Kratos would say why he left, but the squirrel said it first. Only way to travel after was by sea
I think it's obvious, the world was literally destroyed, there was no reason to stay in Greece
Any at the end where it showed kratos history it showed him on a boat with the blades of chaos going to midgard
surprised he can, given that the seas were being a tsunami all around
Dude just tell me in god of war REALMS are universes or just PLACES
@@khursheedjahan3894 nor universe neither place it's like Earth ( Midgard ), Hell ( underworld ), Heaven ( Valhalla ) exist in single universe
Well, Kratos first went to Egypt and then to Midgard, but I was hoping to have an explanation like portals or going to the end of the world of each realm to jump to another.
When did he go to Egypt? There's a journal entry stating he's always wanted to go there as in hasn't yet
@@SimonPetrikov12 in the comics
@@elpepo0 they did? huh
@@theonlymann1485 yeah, basically before going to Scandinavia he passed briefly in Egypt
In the novelization of God of War 2018, Kratos has a dream of when he was walking the lands he's from, a hooded woman with 3 wolves appear. The wolves attacked Kratos and when they were done fighting, he was in Midgard. The novel heavily implies this was a memory of Faye, Fenrir, Sköll and Hati (though Kratos does not know their identities) bringing him to Midgard through the wolves special abilities, rather than a dream.
Kratos didn't leave Greece.... there was no more Greece ☠☠☠☠
Buut in previous game there were greek people who rebuild their civilization depicted on a vase after Kratos’ destruction. This should be answered too. But nooo we have ragnarooooögggk!
@@_Promised_ God of war hasn't endeddddd my friiiend, that can be addressed laterrrrrr. It wasn't this important for this game to address it.
Only greece left was the greek yogurt in my fridge
@@iangross8959Bruh I almost die because of this comment.
I was eating and I almost choked...
so you are saying it was de-greeced.
Kratos: No squirrel, it’s not that confusing.
You see, we had a mountain that at it’s peak seated the thrones of the gods.
Ratatoskr: Alright, following you so far.
Kratos: And our afterlife wasn’t another realm, it was just underground.
Ratatoskr: You held your dead and the living all within a climbing distance of each other?!
Kratos: It’s not like they could just walk out in and out any time they wanted… I mean… most of them. There was a three headed dog guarding the entrance, and the four armed Titan Atlas held the ceiling up so the living world and Olympus didn’t collapse in.
… and also so that Gaia and Tartarus couldn’t conceive any more monsters to threaten Olympus.
Ratatoskr: … You’re land seems like it was quite unstable violent and horny.
Kratos: You are not wrong, talking squirrel.
Unstable, violent, and horny. Sums up Greek mythology perfectly 😂
@@paintedgear2105 Especially Zeus
very very zeus sir
@@paintedgear2105 also Kratos in the original games
@@llstash1660 he's his father's son 😂
Honestly tho, I really would like an explanation for how the world works. Because Mimir talks about his knowledge of Greece like it's not that strange to come into contact with Greek people, it's just relatively uncommon because of distance. Like are they all just on the same Earth and traveling from Greece to the Norse region was just a matter of traveling?
If I had to guess, presumably what the characters in these current games refer to as Midgard is just Earth and it's effectively the same as our Earth beyond the presence of all these mythological figures. And then the cosmology of the different pantheons are all connected to the specific regions of this Earth but not tied to other regions that have their own pantheons. But I would very much like to know, what _is_ the connection between these different realms and pantheons.
It works like the multiverse, where Greece and Yggdrasil are separate to each other to explain the different cosmologies of different mythologies.
Midgard seems to refer to the Norse part of the world. Mimir himself also travelled north to leave the British Isles. They just get on a boat and keep sailing.
I'm guessing the different realms are like different pocket dimensions stacked upon one another and connected by the world tree, where they're all about as large as the Norse region that's classified as midgard, so that's why Greece doesn't have its own world tree or the 9 realms.
Assassin's Creed RPG series took that rout. And it sucks.
Also if they are on different worlds, how do you explain Greco-Persian wars? In nu-gow Kratos says that he was in Termophylae, am I wrong? So they must have fought with people worshipping of other pantheons
well, he literally walked and climb from Hell back to living world, no wonder Kratos left... lol
Yeah, if you read Greek Stories, it pretty much tells of people just entering the Underworld just by walking or by boat. Odyseus did it during his journey to return home.
Heck, in the God of War 2 ending, olympus is just a high mountain that can be climbed.
I like to believe that the stories we hear about the gods in the God of War universe is just exaggerated stories of any survivors of the events.
Olympus us the highest mountain in Greece, and Hades is one of the island.
You travel by river to Hades and those rivers run through the earth so....
It's not tho. Only gods can open doors to Olympus. We see Athena do just that at the end to let Kratos take his place as GoW after killing Ares.
Mount Olympus is MASSSIVE in God of war. If a Mortal fell from the top, it would take 3 days to hit the bottom. If you're a god (or titan too I guess) tho, you fall faster. That's why Poseidon fell to the ocean so quickly ik gow3
I love how this means that he thinks Kratos left due to inefficient public transportation 😂
Funny how only a limited few gods, like Mimir and Tyr, have travelled to these other 'realms' but no one but Kratos seem to grasp that these 'realms' are a literal walking distance or a boat trip away. Though maybe it's good the Aesir and Olympians think they're in other planes of existence cause it'd be apocalypse for real if they knew they could walk to each others' backyards
There was a plan for GOW 3 and later games to be about other pantheons spilling into Greece to fill in the power vacuum.
I'm guessing all out pantheon war is just too much effort for what it's worth. Especially when killing certain gods like Poseidon will destroy the land in some way.
I mean in one of the prequel games for GOW it's mentioned that Ares was starting shit in Egypt, so it wasn't unknown that these other lands existed it was really just a matter of not caring too much about these other deities and their cultures when you have your own to deal with on a daily basis.
@@rikusawada6113 That and like in real life, just because you go marching into someone else's yard to take theirs, somebody can do the same to while while you're preoccupied.
So yeah, Odin could send some of his heavy hitters to take a chunk of Greece...but those Slavic gods from the East could see a powerhouse like Thor is out and send some of their guys to do the same and take a chunk of their territory.
@@MapleLeaf2501 An excellent additional point there.
@@Jenna_Taliai guess the 'other pantheon' would be christianity since greece is a christian majority country rn
Kratos: On foot or by sea
Pegasus: Oh, so that's how it's gonna be huh?
considering these are cosmological realms of myth, that is a VERY long distance
Not necessarily.
@@frenchynoob I dont know what else it would mean crossing from one realm to another on foot or by boat
I like to think that both mythologies link by dimensional rift.
So Greek and Norse in this case are essentially earth from a different universe.
But pieces of their world and other mythologies is stitched together to form a planet like our earth but only when you look it on the outside because when you are inside in any piece of that earth you essentially in different planet.
Like how different part of our world have difference religion but in a larger scale. Where each religion/country is essentially it own planet.
@@Aibadenshi Thats what I had in mind more or less
Mans killed the Sisters of Fate and destroyed the entire Greek pantheon. Long distances ain't shit.
ProZD nailed it. It's one of the best voice actors in the game. Such energy and enthusiasm from every line.
THAT'S WHO IT IS???!!!!!
@@FyruHawk Yup!
A godlike creature in the service of gods screaming 'Good God' feels...oddly wrong.
ratotaskr is more of a divine being than a godlike entity, if that makes any sense, so he has more a scope similar to mortals than a gods, fairly unusual considering his importance to the balance of the realms.
He's not quite a god. As he says, he is keeper of the Tree and gets some 'bonuses' from it, but he can't leave the Tree or these 'bonuses' will disappear, including his immortality.
Feels goddly wrong ;)
God Himself is a thing in the GoW universe. Remember the mural in GoW 2?
@@KT-in3wb
Which makes sense. The Tree is suppose to be something that is so omnipresent and enduring that it even survives the end of the world. So I imagine living upon the tree and what not would bestow some of that.
Some of my friends were saying that Greece was in it's own realm and after Kratos killed all the gods the realm started falling apart and he escaped through a portal or something like that. That didn't sit right with me because as I understand it, Midgard is the world where everyone is. You, your mom, dad, siblings, everyone is part of Midgard. Therefore it only made sense to me that Kratos walked and sailed away from Greece, to get away from the land that had tortured him and that he destroyed.
This makes sense because there was the realms between realms if you jumped right? At least that’s how I remembered in gow4
Technically some realms in Greece required portal in order to access it sometimes, such as the Domain of Death or some parts of the underworld. It required special keys or Hades’ soul however.
Knowing Ratatoskr is Prozd brings me unmitigated levels of joy
By the way master Kratos,
...KING DRAGON SENDS HIS REGARDS.
"How'd you travel to planet Jupiter from Earth?"
"I drifted through space"
Pro puts so much energy into the character his off script stutters and the tone shifts make it so life like I really wish more voice acting in gaming was like this.
Kratos: we do have a Titan holding the world
It just raises a bigger question:
Did odin want to gaze into the birth existence of all mythologies?
Ratatoskr is really hilarious in this scene. 🤣
There is a Pillar that holds the world, but Atlas is the one holding it, there's also Tartarus
Norse has a River of Souls, Greek has River Styx
kratos implies it here and it's also written on the prophecy wall at the end of the game. you can see kratos leaving his homeland on a boat.
Ratatoskyr’s disbelief over their not being a World Tree in Greece makes given the fact that he’s a Squirrel, it’s pretty hard to imagine life that doesn’t involve him living in a great tree even before he evolved to who he is today.
Everyone in this game when they hear Kratos talk about stuff they’re like “WTF??”
Kratos: "there wasn't a world tree. There WAS a pillar"
Also Kratos: *groans internally*
Would the world collapse if Kratos tickled Atlas' balls?
Painfully unfunny
@@dread1262 this guy again? lmao
@@zackilhdz you want an autograph?
@@dread1262 Yes and I also want some of your hair to sniff later
What if he stabbed them with his blades?
Kratos: I walked.
Ratatoskr: what?
Kratos: there’s more, at the ocean I used a boat.
Ratatoskr: 😨 nooo
ratatoskr: good god man
kratos: there's no good gods boy, i thought i taught you that !
"We walked uphill, Squirrel...in the snow...both ways."
"My homeland rested upon the shoulders of a Titan. In fact, I was the one who trapped him there after he destroyed the pillar that previously held the land."
"Hraesvelgr's eggs, man, your homeland sounds so bizarre!"
"We didn't have a world tree...but there was this titan the size of a mountain holding the whole thing up with four arms"
In Greek mythology the lands of the dead and Olympus itself are part of the same land as the earth. They may be hard to get to and you risk pissing off Zeus going to Olympus (at least one hero has died for trying) but you could at least theoretically climb up to Olympus or down to hades. In Norse mythology you could travel from realm to realm on foot, but it would take a very, very long time. The bifrost (not actually related to cold or ice) is much faster but very dangerous.
"how did you come to these lands?"
"I walked"
"but what about the waters!?"
"Boat"
Foot or by sea. Thanks, now we can end the endless theories about how Kratos arrived to Midgar.
Ratatoskr: Who tended to your world tree back home
Kratos: No one
*Ratatoskr windows noises*
Kratos simply walked from hell(Hades) to Heaven(Olympus). Manz got crazy calves
Olympus wasn’t heaven. Elysium is.
Frightened the squirrel so bad he became a monotheist XD
In GoW 2018, it's stated that the Nine Realms all occupy the same physical space, just in different planes of existence / dimensions. What I've wondered is what would happen if you went to one of the realms (other than Midgard) and travelled to the physical location of Greece. Like if you went to Helheim and traveled to where Greece would physically be, would you be in Hades? Or would it just be a whole planet's worth of Helheim? I think about this often lol
No.
Different cosmology.
Each land (mythos) is it’s own universe in which if you travel land to land you’re traveling universe to
Universe to other mythologies earth counterparts such as Midgard
“Wait you’re saying universes can interact in fundamentally different ways” kratos’s: “mmmmm”
Kratos be like, yeahhhhhh thats why i left!
Kratos: "Technically, a gargantuan being called a Titan was the world tree. He was punished to hold the entire world on his shoulders after destroying the pillar that held it up."
Mimir: "....Are ye fuckin with us, or-"
Kratos: "No."
"King Dragon sends his regards"
At least Kratos is being honest.
*Wait til he finds out about Atlas*
😬😬
Kratos said "WE BUILT DIFFERENT IN GREECE"
Actually, Kratos left Greece because of the high taxes
Kratos's calves must be rock solid
Like a rock is an understatement.
I think a lot of people forget that pantheons or “worlds” literally have almost a flat earth effect at least to my understanding. Now having said that, you’d have to travel 1000’s of miles for that to be the case but Kratos is a god so it’s like like a winter stroll for him 😂
I find it hilarious how a Squirrel is unable to process the very idea of life without a tree lol
Ratatoskr voiced by ProZD
“One would travel by foot or by sea. I did both. I even had wings.”
Just tells you others traveled realms/ continents differently as we do in this realm. Expanding travel comprehension with science and imagination.
I mentally think that GOW Earth is like having with pocket dimensions depending on the region in which a pantheon of gods hold their domain.
Nasuverse from Fate series made it clear how this works.
In that universe terms, it's called a texture - a layer, surface of the planet in which this blanket of a reality can become it's own mini-world. This mini-world can stretch depending by people's belief and faith on their gods and the pantheon hold on the territory. The Greek world for example encompassed from the Black Sea - all the way to the - Atlantic Ocean, in which the fabled mythical city of Atlantis reside.
The Greek world is fundamentally destroyed after Kratos rebellion. But I don't think the damage spread that much that it would affect the nearby regions with their own set of gods and pantheon. Like Egypt, Persia, and the Norse. It's like having to see your neighbor's house being burned while your house is being protected by a 30 feet wall.
So it's safe to say that other pantheons could exist as well alongside others in just one planet. Seeing that the Earth can stored spaces for this mini-worlds in the surface.
Ragnarok happened in Fate series but the end-times for the gods and giants there only affected the Norse world which covered from Sweden to Iceland. Midgard jurisdiction likely lies over Scandinavia, particularly in Norway and Sweden.
@@rogueascendant6611that's a good explanation, but I still have one question: What of the afterlife? If you were born in, let's say, Egypt where the spiritual rules of Egyptian Mythology still apply, and you were to travel to the Norse regions where they have their DIFFERENT set of rules and were to die there, would you go to Egyptian afterlife, or Norse afterlife? I'm asking just in case it depends where you're from/which mythology you were born into
Kratos: DREAM ON AND SING FOR THE MOMENT
I would really like to see an interaction between Kratos and Adonai. Especially Adonai post Viking age.
A: I'm here to take your foreskin. Shalom
K: No
"good God"
Kratos Internally be like "very poor choice of words"
The best way I can see this working is that every pantheon and every realm exists in the same place at once but depending on the region different gods and different rules apply to those regions Greece didn’t have a world tree but still had similar gods and creatures each region has a different pantheon and set of rules that pantheon follows.
bro is literally a African and Asian parent when they travel to school
So are Greece and Midgard on the same planet? Are the other realms separate from one another?
I think they are on one earth and the realm of the gods separated by geography.
In Norse whole world is Midgard. But because of political and other stuff Norse has only the north of earth. Tree of life is another stuff. Norse realms look like a layers of lasagne. But instead of destroying each other with their existence. They happen same place and same time.
"Good God man! No wonder you left!"
We should let him know...
So from my point of view, Norse and Greece are like countries in our world and on the same planet, right? So did the event when titans create world in Greece affect Norse and vice versa?
Each mythology created their own portion of the world irrespective of neighboring mythologies. It seems that other than Tyr and Kratos, gods and other celestial brings stick to their own backyards and have no interest in other lands.
Each country is basically an entirely different world, but they're transcended by the real earth which the pantheons are viewed the same way we view them in real life.
Dude had access to the Minecraft nether, used good old 8 block math
The man just got on a boat and rowed until he hit something! lol
no seriously how did he get to this universe
on foot or by sea
He never left his "universe".
Norse Myth and Greek myth in this game took place in the same universe, just from different countries. What Kratos did was simply sail a boat from Greece to Scandinavia.
When “realm” is mentioned, they mean places like helhiem, muspelheim, or any of the nine realms.
In the case of Greece, it would be the underworld where the dead are.
@@drunklord9471 what? But he just said they’ve crossed seas there’s got to be a ton of people that just happen onto random mythology’s then right? Seems like it should be way more common
@@10dollarsteakneggs86 it makes a total of 0 sense but sadly this is the god awful ''explanation'' the devs gave us
Don't forget teleportation and winged horses
I’m so surprised…
In Valhalla,tyr said “in the years of rebuilding” which meant Kratos didn’t destroy the entire population with his cataclysmic actions 😅😅😅
I mean, Athena is still... half alive... she is a ghost but she is not completely dead.
neither are Hestia, Demeter, Apollo, and many other gods.
We knew this since 3, he gave the power of hope back to the world for a reason
That would explain the Roman Pantheon
He didn't ask HOW HE LEFT GREECE. He just asked how they got around
Dying in Greece was basically fast travel to the Underworld
After stabbing himself in the chest Kratos doggy paddled his way to Midgard.
the only thing that can count is the olive tree
Rock climbed to heaven, slipped and fell to hell, then walked to Jupiter
EZ
It's true that a world tree does not appear in mainstream Greek mythology.
However the concept wasn't completely unknown to the Greeks. In fact, a world tree - and more specifically a winged oak - does appear in the few surviving fragments of the cosmogony of Pherecydes of Syros (the Pentemuchos):
On the third day of the wedding, Zas (Zeus) fashioned a big and beautiful robe, and on it he embroidered Earth and Ogenos (Oceanus) and the mansions of Ogenos. When he had finished his task, he presented the robe to Chthonie (Earth) and said: 'Because I wish to marry you, I honour you with this robe. Rejoice and be my consort!' This they say was the first feast of unveiling, and hence arose the custom for both gods and men. And she responded as she received the robe from him: 'I take this as my honour, and henceforth I shall be called Ge...' The gods celebrated, feasting on ambrosia. And the Earth was like a winged oak, strong and mighty; its roots extended into the depths of Tartaros, its trunk was encircled by Ogenos, and its branches reached into Ouranos. The Earth flourished and Zas rejoiced.
Source: Pherekydes of Syros, by Hermann S. Schibli
So this confirms that all the pantheons are in the same world but separated by the lands and it’s not like another universe.
I mentally think that GOW Earth is like having with pocket dimensions depending on the region in which a pantheon of gods hold their domain.
Nasuverse from Fate series made it clear how this works.
In that universe terms, it's called a texture - a layer, surface of the planet in which this blanket of a reality can become it's own mini-world. This mini-world can stretch depending by people's belief and faith on their gods and the pantheon hold on the territory. The Greek world for example encompassed from the Black Sea - all the way to the - Atlantic Ocean, in which the fabled mythical city of Atlantis reside.
The Greek world is fundamentally destroyed after Kratos rebellion. But I don't think the damage spread that much that it would affect the nearby regions with their own set of gods and pantheon. Like Egypt, Persia, and the Norse. It's like having to see your neighbor's house being burned while your house is being protected by a 30 feet wall.
So it's safe to say that other pantheons could exist as well alongside others in just one planet. Seeing that the Earth can stored spaces for this mini-worlds in the surface.
Ragnarok happened in Fate series but the end-times for the gods and giants there only affected the Norse world which covered from Sweden to Iceland. Midgard jurisdiction likely lies over Scandinavia, particularly in Norway and Sweden.
If you were to travel to Helheim in Norse Mythology, walk far enough, would you be in Hades?
that moment you realize it's ProZD voicing the Squirrel
This conversation has greater implications for the GoW universe. Apparently every pantheon exists in their own continent as part of a larger world that is also its own world. Kratos actually sailed until he reached the edge of his realm and actually trekked through Egypt as well to get to the Norse realm. Each also has its own equivalent to a world tree and Greeces was Mount Olympus itself. When Kratos destroyed his pantheon he temporarily weakened the barrier between realms and that’s how he escaped without realizing it. This is all talked about in official comics and stuff.
Actually, each patheon is essentially it's own universe as stated by Cory and matt sophos. As said by Matt Sophos within the GI Show, the pantheons and realms contain the full world, such as Niflheim. If you were to travel to Egypt while in Alfheim, you wouldn’t be within Egypt, but Alfheim’s VERSION of Egypt. Furthermore, the Greek pantheon had Egypt, wars like Normandy, Stalingrad, and Desert Storm, alongside countries like Japan.
Cory also states this, "the 'actual' god of war's earth geography is the same as our real earth's. the only difference between the two is that within each geographical region, there exists a version of the universe with its dimensions and earth as inspired by the prevelant mythology and local belief system of the people living in that particular region."
Furthermore, there are other statements, like Cory blatantly stating that the Gods have universes they have dominions over, and saying that the Gods have their own version of the world.
"What I was talking about was the idea that all the mythologies of the world are kinda like this Hubble Telescope Image. They are like galaxies spread out through a complete universe, and the world is the universe. They are sort of the origin stories of various cultures throughout the world, starting from the beginning of time and stretching all the way out, so at any given time all the mythologies existed together - and currently - and they are simply separated by geography. This is important because some people had the conception that Kratos at the end of God of War III destroyed the world. Well, he destroyed what they believed the world was in Greece, their version of the world. Everybody believed their world was the only world; in fact, we still believe that today."
Not to mention that you can't even travel between other pantheons without the Unity Stone.
"all of them.
they have all carved out their piece of history. When talking about the "universe" though, they are - in my mind - referring to the universe's that they themselves have dominion over. "The actual greater universe has yet to be explored."
Matt also stated that each realm has its own unique outer space and mimir states that each realm has its own flow of space and time and coexist on yggsdrassil branches which are infinite, thus making them seperate universes.
After the destruction of Olympus and Greece plummet in Chaos, Kratos was force to wander the Earth as he was damned with no place to die. He left the Greece by foot and stumble Upon Egypt. He also tried to dispose the Blades of Chaos for sometimes, before finally accepting what he must do. He finally arriev in Scandinavia and live with Faye the last Jotunn in Midgard and has a child he name Atreus.
I think it's like Percy Jackson where gods have their own territories and don't go near other pantheons.
This is the equivalent of this generation's teens asking how their parents survived without Google maps.
Can you imageine ratatoskr's face if he tells him there is a titan holding up the entire realm.
Ripping off crazy man's wings, riding 1000 meters tall Titans.... etc . Oh and don't forget the portals
To this day we'll never know how he did it. All we can do is make memes of him saying "I walked here."
Depends on how you look at the layout of the GOW-Verse.
If you see it like the Percy Jackson-Verse and all the pantheons are somehow inhabiting the same dimension/earth but just residing over different regions/countries, then Kratos simply walked north from Greece. Maybe add a short boat ride and a wagon pulled by a horse.
But if you see the Norse Lands inhabiting a separate World from Greece then maybe he stumbled across a portal and waked through it, therefore he still walked there.
That's the problem with the game director. Too secretive to appear smart.
Loved how he just abandoned the axe
He went to the realm of the dead, hell, tartarus, mount olympus, BY FOOT
he never skipped leg day
“Walking? Like a peasant?”
Bruh said fuck dat shi😂😂😂😂
He didnt explain how he lef,Kratos is explaining how they were travelling around the Greece
He walked from land to right near the ocean, probably found a boat tied up near the ocean and started going till he got to the Norse Mythology Earth
I still find it confusing myself, but the best way I've come to interpret it is that "Midgard" literally refers to all of what we come to call "Earth". Kratos sailed from Greece to Norway essentiially, as these countries all reside in the same realm. The pantheons all reside in their own countries and they seem to harbor any mythological locations within their own slice of Midgard. Such as Mount Olympus, or the Underworld in Greece. The same can be said of the World Tree and its layered realms all descended from their part of Midgard in Norway.
"we do not have a tree. we had a titan that held up our world"
Technically in Greece all "realms" were linked so there was no need for a World Tree since you could move between them by climbing, flying or falling.
or getting impaled to a wall kratos would know that one by personal experience
When he said “ no wonder you left” i laughed thought “ thats not why he left “ 😂