I found the hypersensitivity thing funny because I've only been watching kpop and Korean music videos for the last year and now when I watch american music videos I also am hypersensitive.
Pink Unicorn Not really THAT pornographic but it's becoming filled with more sexy stuff(or what they it is sexy!) I mean come on, wearing revealing clothes doesn't mean it is sexy! Focusing on members' booties doesn't make the MV sexy concept. Acting like a whore doesn't make you sexy. Anyway, to get what I mean watch GaIn's music videos, Sistar's Touch my body&I swear, AOA Like a cat (why would a theft walk that way!!) Hyunah's Red, Stellar Marionette, and much more. Nowadays Kpop MVs are almost all like that. Specially GIRL GROUPS just to gain more popularity.
Joiteu Moro tnx for answering...ok i knew about sistars touch my body and hyunas red (tht one rly kinda shocked me)...another one might be girls day female president...the focus is also on their butts...i just know tht in korea it is ok to wear suuuper short skirts as long as you cover your cleavage..i just pray to God tht snsd wont be tht way :(
Pink Unicorn Yes, Girl's Day as well, though that song was so good. It's totally not okay for Koreans, it's okay for the fans but not other Koreans. Koreans are more conservatives than what we see in shows and dramas. I don't think SNSD would do it. No one in SM would. Because their artists are already famous and well known. :") I hope KARA and A.S won't do that. I really hate sexy concepts, specially girl-groups, maybe because I'm a girl XD.
Joiteu Moro i feel the same...love femakle president too tho...im a girl too btw.....i dont like those concepts either bc i think its a cheep trick...if u cant get famous for talent then rather dont get famous at all...thts why i started disliking ariana grande...i used to rly like her and her cute lil face^^ and now shes trying so hard to be sexy like WHYYY...if u wanna b famous cuz you are "sexy" you might as well be like kim kardashian-.-
It's weird that you say Korea gives you your innicence back because when I watch Kpop videos it seems like they're trying to come as close to porn as possible without actually taking their clothes off.
heatherheartles3 I'm learning Korean from a YT channel called Learn Korean with KoreanClass101.com and it's actually really easy and they explain everything really well! Hope this helped even though I'm late! :)
I feel like you guys are really smart at observing and analyzing things! Thank you so much for making these videos, I find it entertaining as well as educating:)
I love how you break down each topic for your videos, and both of your are so clear and concise when you speak. Thank you for these videos, they are much appreciated.
I would say that a lot of Kpop songs don't really tell as much of a story as much as American songs do, and Korean music videos often include a dance, while american songs almost never really have designed choreography, plus along with the dance, the video is often has shots of the members of the Kpop group, but I never really see that with American videos.
@Alexthecat yeah I think in korea Michael Jackson's still as big there. I mean half of his tours were over in Asia and whatnot. They love him over there. Countless kpop idols and groups always talk about him on interviews and shows. I've seen a lot of mj dance cover by kpop idols. I'm guessing he's still the king of pop all over the world. :b I would hope. D:
WOW I discovered you guys' channel yesterday and cant stop watching. ALL OF YOUR VIDEOS literally make me LOL. Omg awesome couple. Y'all are like a super couple! Very nice videos, the content is amazing, very well spoken people. Also LOL at the what Americans think about Korean videos and vice versa. Yes, when I first saw male idol k pop videos I had to laugh at some parts that were supposeeddd to be serious, but I couldnt help myself. Wow I'm not really a fan of Gaga, but I just watched that Bad Romance video, those kids were right, HILARIOUS at the end wth WAS that! lolol XD -Texas, USA
I'm a person with Korean parents raised in South America. I've been in Korea a couple of times and I have a hunch that Korean people sometimes are "generalizable" like they have a strong sense of the collective over developing their individuality and that trends are followed really massively, like the use almost only of Korean cellphones (Samsung) and the fact that almost all the cars I saw are black, grey or white. How do you think about this Martina and Simon?
Yeah... i want to know how they feel about metal and rock too? Thanks for reading this and hopefully we'll get a response although this video is super old
Rock is fairly well received in East Asia and Australia and much more than in the U.S. South Korea, China, Japan and Indonesia make most of the electric guitars in the world and many amps.
By the way, I really like how you guys put things into perspective. Ok this is what I see from my perspective and this is probably what they think of it. It's amazing and fascinating to know other cultures and know about different perspectives. Not everyone is like that though and people keep arguing how their one is better and how everyone should adapt theirs :P
x'D Okay me and my friends, we're americans who listen Kpop and when we did we were not laughing we were amazed! And shocked because how our culture makes music. Now we mostly listen anime music, Kpop and Jpop. Even rock music that's it because how it quickly changed how we seen music.
I loved the last statement you guys make about video quality! So true! As an Asian American I love both cultures tastes, but some don't seem to be open to one side. Thank you for the osm sharing
Just goes to prove the drop in morals in America would be shocking to our parents at our age. There is almost nothing that is considered bad taste or corrupt now a days.
Pretty awesome topic! This reminds me of that vid "Kids React to Kpop", and yeah, some of the kids were completely baffled by it and even pretentious. And when u said how they didn't like Kanye West or Lady Gaga- which most of us in English speaking countries accept- i think it goes to show how we're not any different than others people. It's normal to be confused by things we've never been exposed to.
Speaking of justin bieber,Gdragon is releasing a song with him next year,something 4the korean students!I WILL BE UNABLE TO HEAR JUSTIN I SHALL ONLY HEAR GD!!!!!
lilMalevolent lol am not a fan of Justin bieber, I was just correcting, I love gdragon!!!!!!gdragon is my bias!!!! so I support gdragon on everything he does, I just hope Justin bieber doesn't screw the album....
I don't listen to pop often, but if I have to choose between K-pop and North American, it'd be North American hands down. I feel like if you've seen one K-pop video, you've seen them all. Okay, bit of an exaggeration, but my sentiment is still the same. lolol
My favorite Kpop group, BTS, are actually fairly innocent when it comes to their music videos. Sometimes their lyrics have cuss words, but they are considered hip-hop, not pop. Anyway, besides the ab showing performance for No More Dream, and the provactive dance in Tomorrow, I Don't see much obvious sexualization in BTS's music. The over sexualization in American Music is the reason I stopped listening to most of the music. I prefer innocent BTS, than hoes and badonkadonk, anyday.
thanks for the info, im writing blog post for my mass media class about north american music and korean music. lol you guys just made my birthday so happy XD
i love these videos. i think i can relate to both sides of the world. i'm filipina and i'm somewhere in between (it's in our culture). my family's conservative and there are filipino values that teach us to be conservative in the way we talk, act, etc... but western culture is very dominant here still.. like the music vids you mentioned (except for indie) were probably all hits here.. so yeah. BTW, i DON't think your students were rude. they just have a different preference.
That was really interesting! It kinda makes sense, Korean culture and Western/ American culture is just so different, that even the music taste is very divided. And it was probably just Italy, I live in Holland, there are nude-beaches, but.. Not everybody is all.. nipple-loving? Idk?
Also I cracked up at the Katamari Ball comparison, it's funny just how true that is. My mom's a huge fan of Lady Gaga and I told her about the comparison and agreed with it.
When I watch you guy's videos, it's like I'm having a real conversation with you guys... So here I am in my room, agreeing with you guys and laughing..... lol
I think this was an really interesting topic, Especially since they try expand k-pop world wide. Maybe they should give a tought to the music videos. I've alredy seen some do a japanese and korean version, they should expand it. British X-factor singer Cher Loyd made U.K and U.S MV versions of her song ´I want you back´ Recognizing the cultural differences even between europe and the U.S ( gotta side note that the European one was the more innocent in this case.)
I'm Korean (but not a student) and very familiar about North America pop culture (I think). But when I first watched one of Lady Gaga's music videos, it was just a culture shock!
The innocent part is what I like about k-pop, I don't have to worry about what I can and can't watch with my mom and little cousin around. We can all rock out to the songs together.I think Brian Joo's version of In My Head is the best example of how different k-pop style is from A-pop style.Our version just sounded so nasty to me after I read out the translation for the other version.Even my A-pop loving sister who's reaction was "Aww" to Brian Joo and "Oh...wow....." to the original lyrics XD
The weird thing is in the west that because Kpop is relatively unknown (at least in Britain) that it could almost be considered indie and alternative even though it's pop music. Before one girl who joined my school about two years ago who loved Kpop introduced it to me and my friends, we had hardly heard of it. And this is coming from someone who loves Japanese (and Asian in general) culture.
This video was reaaally informative and I thoroughly liked it. To be honest, I didn't know that Korean people aren't huge fans of North American music videos and that they often believe that they're very revealing and provocative, especially when it comes to the clothes that the singer is wearing...
I can see why you would think it's central America. I agree with you, given that in my school and practically everywhere else they teach you "America" as the whole continent, then the people from USA changed geography and made it into North and South, but as far as I know American itself was separated by three: North, Central and South, and made those divisions merely as reference, whereas the USA people think North as South as two continents, or refer to the whole mass of land as The Americas.
yayyyyyyy lady gaga!! bad romance is my favorite music video EVER!! nothing will top it!! its so artistic and creative and omg-ness...just the best!! thank you simon and martina!!
You're just like the rest of us LOLOL. The meaning of the songs are so deep (usually..) and then the dances.. :33 and then there's hip song by rain,...
I'm from Vietnam and I have to agree with Martina on the US-UK MV thing... Back when I was like 14 I didn't know what K-pop is and US-UK was like really popular back then, so I can watch Lady Gaga,... But when I turned 16, I started to listen to K-pop songs and watch MVs And now, yeah, I can't watch US-UK's MVs the same way...
it's so true about the cultural difference thing. we all have our different standards of music. and just because a certain type of music doesn't resonate with you, doesn't mean it's bad music. i happen love Western(american/uk etc...), Indian AND Korean music. i love it so much that i used to try sharing it with my friends to try and open them to something new, but they'd always find it dull...so i just gave up =__='
hmm how to explain..it's like bowling, but they turn off the normal lights and turn on crazy neon flashing lights. The bowling alley pretty much has this glow-in-the dark, club-ish atmosphere..it's super fun ^^
Man, if you were still teaching I would love to hear what the students thought if you showed SHINee's "Julliette" and Corbin Bleu's "Deal With It" together, because the two songs were made with the same music and they're in a similar sort of dance-video style. I bet it would have been interesting. ^.^
I am proud that KPoP is getting a lot of attention, but I would like to point out that Korea has vibrant Indi music movement where creativity and originality is really amazing.
how it works is you allow a commercial to pop up during or before the video and everytime somebody clicks on it you get a few cents. it seems like nothing but it really adds up :)
@RandomUserX99 I don't think it's that they can't stand saying American. I think it's because a lot of American and Canadian culture is similar and they are both on the NORTH American continent. The videos that they just talked about were from entertainers from either the U.S. or Canada. So, it makes more sense than to just say "American" because when "America" or "American is said, it is usually referring to just the U.S.
I'm Italian, and it's true that our sense of propriety is not really strict, but, you know, it is so only when it comes to art...I mean, we have a great artistic sense, and we put it into everything (advertising, fashion, figurative arts, music, ecc.). We are generally openminded, but also quite traditional about other things, like family, dating, education...personally sometime I don't like at all tha "trasgressive-at-all-costs" attitude of some american singers...
I went ahead and watched the Bad Romance video and it's been so long since I've seen a North American music video that I was border line traumatized...... Kpop.... I love you even more now for showing me gorgeous guys without all the.... scary
I remember when I saw Miss A Hush mv there was a pretty clear shot of Min's cleavage, and it's not like a little "opps she bent down too far", it was an overhead shot with her in a shirt with a loose neckline. Anyway that shocked me a little bit because I don't see that very often in Kpop if at all.
not necessarily, a lot of artists in north america have songs written for them by people who are hired especially to wright songs. and the companies probably have a lot to do with everything. but i do agree with you that in korea a lot more is determined by the companies and less by the artists. :)
I think I saw one K-Pop video (I think it was EXO-K - Mama) that was incredibly artsy and it had this backstory for some reason. The music was really overblown too. Like it had this male chorus in the intro and this big orchestra and just- guys, it's pop music, not Die Hard or something like that. Really, I've seen a few K-Pop videos that are way too bombastic for what the song is. Honestly, though, I stopped paying attention to music videos altogether a long time ago. Since I mainly listen to music while doing other stuff, I stopped caring. Though, I did see that Sia video with Shia LaBeouf in it and it was about what I expected.
I was a huge fan of Gaga, Rihanna, , Ciara, JT, Eminem, 50cent and a whole host of American rappers up till 3-4 years ago. Never batted an eyelid at their fashion or sexuality onscreen. Not even at Gaga. Totally desensitized to their shock tactics. After these years watching nothing but Kpop mvs, mostly BB, I get a huge shock whenever I revisit some of my past favs.... and I prefer the way I am now.
they should have a video of Koreans reacting to trey songz SMARTPHONE, Nicki manja ANACONDA, Rae sremmurd NO TYPE, Beyoncé 711, and Jessie j bang bang I would so love to see this please do a video on this
@9803kim they were just telling us about the experience they had with the students in the classes they were teaching, in no way were they trying to act like they were speaking for the entire population.
@xSmilesForYou LOLOL I was only slightly disturbed when i first watched it...until my best friend's 8 year old brother discovered it. Imagine walking in on an 8 year old "wiggling" in his bedroom with the music blasting. SOME THINGS CAN NOT BE UNSEEN.
Wow, I'm actually quite surprised to find out that American pop isn't that popular in Korea. Even when I go to Colombia, American pop artists get a lot of radio play and they show their videos on TV just as much as Latin artists.
that's true. and it workd on me as well. since the Korean vibe in their vids, sometimes I just think what Martina and Simon talk is also a little bit OMG.
When I first knew K-Pop I didn't like it either, and it's only last year that I really got into it. I was really, really into North American stuff though, and One Direction, of course. :)
We do not show nipples everywhere! Just sometimes and when it comes to Italy it's slightly different because that's just Italy, okay. The politics in Italy is kinda complicated.
Oh Martina...you saw the Bilboa advertising *facepalm*...I'm Italian and every summer they show that ad on Tv but it's not a common thing, I mean, I find myself shocked even if I'm italian every time that I see it! this summer they didn't air it, yeeyy!
I live in North America, and I don't like the North American music videos, either, hahaha. I get why they would be bored when it comes to Kanye West rapping with blinking lights. I def agree. I like something more creative like Big Bang's "Fantastic Baby" which had insane make up and costuming, or even the Backstreet Boys' "Everybody" which was an affectionate nod to all these old horror movies. It's just more interesting to look at vs. strobe lights and a guy blasting words into a microphone.
I went and watched the Poker Face music video after you guys brought it up and I was like "Where's that section Martina was talking about?" and then I realized I was watching it and just didn't think it was a big deal. Lol.
HOLY CRAP!!! the thing at the end at how some countries dont except other music culture is sooo true! i LOVE k-pop but when i show my family everyone is just like "they're gay", or they just derp out. WHY IS THE WORLD SO CRUEL!!!!! *starts crying a river*
I also laughed at the ending to the Bad Romance video at first. I think thats because I was still like knowing that this looks really bizarre and insane. But now I'm like over all the craziness.
@MooseKatJar Yes but those are the rare ones that come out once in a while. Overall though it isn't always the way they act in their performances/music videos but the way they dress. So far thankfully we haven't seen where they're as skankily dressed as North American music artists. We all know we've seen Lady Gaga and many other artists practically naked on the stage with just a piece of cloth covering their body.
That was interesting to watch~ I find it's the opposite for Japanese students. I have heaps of Japanese friends who love American music. American music seems to be very popular over there, but Japanese music isn't as popular in other countries.
in older america, like 1920's-1950's music was more about artistry and developing new genres and types of music. that doesn't mean there weren't dirty things in their real lives. for example, many don't know that Louis Armstrong smoke weed A LOT, 2 cigar blunts a day (it was better than alchoal at the time) today not everyone likes club or dirty music, like i don't. there's many musicians that focus on the artistry and especially on the meaning of it all, which i listen to and so do many others.
You are so right about italy!!!!!!!!!!!! Here it's really not a big deal coz' every single celebrity does a calendar where they are completely naked...
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I found the hypersensitivity thing funny because I've only been watching kpop and Korean music videos for the last year and now when I watch american music videos I also am hypersensitive.
Right? This morning my in laws had on some music video channel and I honestly could not see the appeal of any of them.
OMFG SAME
Me too! I don't find American music good any more. All I listen to is Kpop now
I honestly don't know how I listened to American music nor do I remember a time where Kpop wasn't in my life
A sad reality, Kpop's music videos are almost becoming pornographic.
which ones?...maybe i dont listen to those idols but ive never seen tht kind of kpop mv
Pink Unicorn Not really THAT pornographic but it's becoming filled with more sexy stuff(or what they it is sexy!) I mean come on, wearing revealing clothes doesn't mean it is sexy! Focusing on members' booties doesn't make the MV sexy concept. Acting like a whore doesn't make you sexy.
Anyway, to get what I mean watch GaIn's music videos, Sistar's Touch my body&I swear, AOA Like a cat (why would a theft walk that way!!) Hyunah's Red, Stellar Marionette, and much more. Nowadays Kpop MVs are almost all like that. Specially GIRL GROUPS just to gain more popularity.
Joiteu Moro tnx for answering...ok i knew about sistars touch my body and hyunas red (tht one rly kinda shocked me)...another one might be girls day female president...the focus is also on their butts...i just know tht in korea it is ok to wear suuuper short skirts as long as you cover your cleavage..i just pray to God tht snsd wont be tht way :(
Pink Unicorn Yes, Girl's Day as well, though that song was so good.
It's totally not okay for Koreans, it's okay for the fans but not other Koreans.
Koreans are more conservatives than what we see in shows and dramas.
I don't think SNSD would do it. No one in SM would. Because their artists are already famous and well known. :") I hope KARA and A.S won't do that. I really hate sexy concepts, specially girl-groups, maybe because I'm a girl XD.
Joiteu Moro i feel the same...love femakle president too tho...im a girl too btw.....i dont like those concepts either bc i think its a cheep trick...if u cant get famous for talent then rather dont get famous at all...thts why i started disliking ariana grande...i used to rly like her and her cute lil face^^ and now shes trying so hard to be sexy like WHYYY...if u wanna b famous cuz you are "sexy" you might as well be like kim kardashian-.-
It's weird that you say Korea gives you your innicence back because when I watch Kpop videos it seems like they're trying to come as close to porn as possible without actually taking their clothes off.
+lukaszepesi forget kpop vid, it's a sub-culture in korea.
Thank you Korean dramas for giving back my innocence! :D I also became hypersensitive, but I don't mind that. :)
THANK YOU.
Gosh, fangirls are like; JUSTIN B IS SUCH A BETTER DANCER THAN G-DRAGON/OTHER KPOP BOYS!
LIKE NO
American kpopper!!! I think I prefer kpop over American music now. I LOVE kpop and I can't speak Korean. Although, I wish I could learn.
heatherheartles3 Same here!!! Well except I can speak some Korean because I've been learning it! ^-^
***** I just watch videos here on TH-cam that teach you Korean. And I'll also look up Korean phrases and stuff online too. :-)
heatherheartles3 I'm learning Korean from a YT channel called Learn Korean with KoreanClass101.com and it's actually really easy and they explain everything really well! Hope this helped even though I'm late! :)
what would they think about Beyonce-crazy in love and Evanescence - bring me to life?
I feel like you guys are really smart at observing and analyzing things! Thank you so much for making these videos, I find it entertaining as well as educating:)
i wonder what they think of one direction... korea is pretty advanced in boy bands
I love how you break down each topic for your videos, and both of your are so clear and concise when you speak.
Thank you for these videos, they are much appreciated.
Regarding nudity in european tv, americans should never watch german tv between 2:00-6:00 am. Don't ask, just don't.
If you don't have cable in the US, I'm pretty sure you can see the same thing after 1:00 am.
I would say that a lot of Kpop songs don't really tell as much of a story as much as American songs do, and Korean music videos often include a dance, while american songs almost never really have designed choreography, plus along with the dance, the video is often has shots of the members of the Kpop group, but I never really see that with American videos.
omg i've also become hyper aware of sexuality in american music vids when before i didn't even cae xD
@Alexthecat yeah I think in korea Michael Jackson's still as big there. I mean half of his tours were over in Asia and whatnot. They love him over there. Countless kpop idols and groups always talk about him on interviews and shows. I've seen a lot of mj dance cover by kpop idols. I'm guessing he's still the king of pop all over the world. :b I would hope. D:
WOW I discovered you guys' channel yesterday and cant stop watching. ALL OF YOUR VIDEOS literally make me LOL. Omg awesome couple. Y'all are like a super couple! Very nice videos, the content is amazing, very well spoken people.
Also LOL at the what Americans think about Korean videos and vice versa. Yes, when I first saw male idol k pop videos I had to laugh at some parts that were supposeeddd to be serious, but I couldnt help myself. Wow I'm not really a fan of Gaga, but I just watched that Bad Romance video, those kids were right, HILARIOUS at the end wth WAS that! lolol XD -Texas, USA
I'm a person with Korean parents raised in South America. I've been in Korea a couple of times and I have a hunch that Korean people sometimes are "generalizable" like they have a strong sense of the collective over developing their individuality and that trends are followed really massively, like the use almost only of Korean cellphones (Samsung) and the fact that almost all the cars I saw are black, grey or white. How do you think about this Martina and Simon?
FREE THE NIPPLES 2K16!!!!!!
what about metal and rock music ?
Yeah... i want to know how they feel about metal and rock too?
Thanks for reading this and hopefully we'll get a response although this video is super old
Rock is fairly well received in East Asia and Australia and much more than in the U.S. South Korea, China, Japan and Indonesia make most of the electric guitars in the world and many amps.
what people in korea thinks about south american people?
they probably don't remember the world have South america...unless they are watching rio... like the rest of the world..
they probably do not give a fuck about south american and probably do not even know about the south americans.
i am korean and i love south american!!! cuz i think south american have big passion!!
By the way, I really like how you guys put things into perspective. Ok this is what I see from my perspective and this is probably what they think of it. It's amazing and fascinating to know other cultures and know about different perspectives. Not everyone is like that though and people keep arguing how their one is better and how everyone should adapt theirs :P
Really wish you showed the Korean students Aqua :D
x'D Okay me and my friends, we're americans who listen Kpop and when we did we were not laughing we were amazed! And shocked because how our culture makes music. Now we mostly listen anime music, Kpop and Jpop. Even rock music that's it because how it quickly changed how we seen music.
"Let's move away from nipples and talk about beaver."
I loved the last statement you guys make about video quality! So true! As an Asian American I love both cultures tastes, but some don't seem to be open to one side.
Thank you for the osm sharing
Just goes to prove the drop in morals in America would be shocking to our parents at our age. There is almost nothing that is considered bad taste or corrupt now a days.
That's not true, we have a few videos that can't be shown on TV I'm sure
Morals and negativity towards sex, are totally unrelated things.
You guys are the only few youtubers that i know seamlessly record video in one shot. Now thats narural talent and its much more personable to look at.
I'm Swede (European), No we don't show nipples, not here at least Cx If we do see it, were like... ._______. O_______o????
Pretty awesome topic! This reminds me of that vid "Kids React to Kpop", and yeah, some of the kids were completely baffled by it and even pretentious. And when u said how they didn't like Kanye West or Lady Gaga- which most of us in English speaking countries accept- i think it goes to show how we're not any different than others people. It's normal to be confused by things we've never been exposed to.
You should've shown them more Britney Spears videos. Hahaha
wow i love you guys. you both seem very openminded about different cultures in North America and Korea.
then there's gangnam style
the reason why is because 80 percent of European beaches are nude beach's where ur not allowed to wear any type of clothing
Speaking of justin bieber,Gdragon is releasing a song with him next year,something 4the korean students!I WILL BE UNABLE TO HEAR JUSTIN I SHALL ONLY HEAR GD!!!!!
sorry my friend to inform you this but they are not making a song together....THEY ARE MAKING AN ALBUM TOGETHER!!!!
No offense if you are a fan of Justin, but that is horrible. Poor Gdragon...I will have to mute whatever Justin is singing...
lilMalevolent lol am not a fan of Justin bieber, I was just correcting, I love gdragon!!!!!!gdragon is my bias!!!! so I support gdragon on everything he does, I just hope Justin bieber doesn't screw the album....
oh ok, Do you know when he or big bang is going to release a new song?
Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,not an album!!!!!! :(.But i guess i should buy it since I love gd!
I don't listen to pop often, but if I have to choose between K-pop and North American, it'd be North American hands down. I feel like if you've seen one K-pop video, you've seen them all. Okay, bit of an exaggeration, but my sentiment is still the same. lolol
We're not dirty minded, we just don't really care...:)
now that you mentioned it, i agree too, such as dance battles, the singers and celebrities always dance to American music, like all the time
My favorite Kpop group, BTS, are actually fairly innocent when it comes to their music videos. Sometimes their lyrics have cuss words, but they are considered hip-hop, not pop. Anyway, besides the ab showing performance for No More Dream, and the provactive dance in Tomorrow, I Don't see much obvious sexualization in BTS's music. The over sexualization in American Music is the reason I stopped listening to most of the music. I prefer innocent BTS, than hoes and badonkadonk, anyday.
Fire was too much for me to handle I cried
@kokokiki I'm pretty sure they're full time bloggers/vloggers now. So we gotta support them even more! :D
>north american
canadian(s) confirmed.
[cringing intensifies]
I really like the last few sentence from Simon.
It really outlines quite well the situation and I thought: Yeah, you're right *nod nod*.
thanks for the info, im writing blog post for my mass media class about north american music and korean music.
lol you guys just made my birthday so happy XD
i love these videos. i think i can relate to both sides of the world. i'm filipina and i'm somewhere in between (it's in our culture). my family's conservative and there are filipino values that teach us to be conservative in the way we talk, act, etc... but western culture is very dominant here still.. like the music vids you mentioned (except for indie) were probably all hits here.. so yeah. BTW, i DON't think your students were rude. they just have a different preference.
That was really interesting! It kinda makes sense, Korean culture and Western/ American culture is just so different, that even the music taste is very divided.
And it was probably just Italy, I live in Holland, there are nude-beaches, but.. Not everybody is all.. nipple-loving? Idk?
Also I cracked up at the Katamari Ball comparison, it's funny just how true that is. My mom's a huge fan of Lady Gaga and I told her about the comparison and agreed with it.
When I watch you guy's videos, it's like I'm having a real conversation with you guys... So here I am in my room, agreeing with you guys and laughing..... lol
I think this was an really interesting topic, Especially since they try expand k-pop world wide. Maybe they should give a tought to the music videos. I've alredy seen some do a japanese and korean version, they should expand it. British X-factor singer Cher Loyd made U.K and U.S MV versions of her song ´I want you back´ Recognizing the cultural differences even between europe and the U.S ( gotta side note that the European one was the more innocent in this case.)
I'm Korean (but not a student) and very familiar about North America pop culture (I think). But when I first watched one of Lady Gaga's music videos, it was just a culture shock!
The innocent part is what I like about k-pop, I don't have to worry about what I can and can't watch with my mom and little cousin around. We can all rock out to the songs together.I think Brian Joo's version of In My Head is the best example of how different k-pop style is from A-pop style.Our version just sounded so nasty to me after I read out the translation for the other version.Even my A-pop loving sister who's reaction was "Aww" to Brian Joo and "Oh...wow....." to the original lyrics XD
The weird thing is in the west that because Kpop is relatively unknown (at least in Britain) that it could almost be considered indie and alternative even though it's pop music.
Before one girl who joined my school about two years ago who loved Kpop introduced it to me and my friends, we had hardly heard of it. And this is coming from someone who loves Japanese (and Asian in general) culture.
This video was reaaally informative and I thoroughly liked it. To be honest, I didn't know that Korean people aren't huge fans of North American music videos and that they often believe that they're very revealing and provocative, especially when it comes to the clothes that the singer is wearing...
I'm just gonna vent how much I hyperventilated when I heard Martina say "Maryland USA" because iM FROM MARYLAND OMFGFFFF
I taught Justice's D.A.N.C.E to my 5th and 6th graders and they enjoyed both learning the song and watching the music video.
I can see why you would think it's central America. I agree with you, given that in my school and practically everywhere else they teach you "America" as the whole continent, then the people from USA changed geography and made it into North and South, but as far as I know American itself was separated by three: North, Central and South, and made those divisions merely as reference, whereas the USA people think North as South as two continents, or refer to the whole mass of land as The Americas.
yayyyyyyy lady gaga!! bad romance is my favorite music video EVER!! nothing will top it!! its so artistic and creative and omg-ness...just the best!! thank you simon and martina!!
This video is just extremely packed with information I've always wondered about.
Thank you! :D
You're just like the rest of us LOLOL. The meaning of the songs are so deep (usually..)
and then the dances.. :33
and then there's hip song by rain,...
I'm from Vietnam and I have to agree with Martina on the US-UK MV thing...
Back when I was like 14 I didn't know what K-pop is and US-UK was like really popular back then, so I can watch Lady Gaga,...
But when I turned 16, I started to listen to K-pop songs and watch MVs
And now, yeah, I can't watch US-UK's MVs the same way...
it's so true about the cultural difference thing. we all have our different standards of music. and just because a certain type of music doesn't resonate with you, doesn't mean it's bad music. i happen love Western(american/uk etc...), Indian AND Korean music. i love it so much that i used to try sharing it with my friends to try and open them to something new, but they'd always find it dull...so i just gave up =__='
hmm how to explain..it's like bowling, but they turn off the normal lights and turn on crazy neon flashing lights. The bowling alley pretty much has this glow-in-the dark, club-ish atmosphere..it's super fun ^^
These videos are like all of my burning questions finally answered.
Man, if you were still teaching I would love to hear what the students thought if you showed SHINee's "Julliette" and Corbin Bleu's "Deal With It" together, because the two songs were made with the same music and they're in a similar sort of dance-video style. I bet it would have been interesting. ^.^
I am proud that KPoP is getting a lot of attention, but I would like to point out that Korea has vibrant Indi music movement where creativity and originality is really amazing.
This is when you show them American rock bands...
Fall Out Boy..... My Chemical Romance.... Panic! At the Disco.. etc.
Same thing happened to me when I got into k-pop, even Britney's Toxic became shocking, when I just use to shrug it off as nothing.
3:49 I was like "OH DEAR GOD!" and I had to change it very quickly.
and everyone in class was like AHHH!
XDD LOL
They focus on EYK. They even moved out of Bucheon and into Seoul and have a studio and employees now!
how it works is you allow a commercial to pop up during or before the video and everytime somebody clicks on it you get a few cents. it seems like nothing but it really adds up :)
it happens late at night where the lights are off and everything is glowing.
@RandomUserX99 I don't think it's that they can't stand saying American. I think it's because a lot of American and Canadian culture is similar and they are both on the NORTH American continent. The videos that they just talked about were from entertainers from either the U.S. or Canada. So, it makes more sense than to just say "American" because when "America" or "American is said, it is usually referring to just the U.S.
ahahaha! 2:02 onwards with martina acting innocent was so funny.
I'm Italian, and it's true that our sense of propriety is not really strict, but, you know, it is so only when it comes to art...I mean, we have a great artistic sense, and we put it into everything (advertising, fashion, figurative arts, music, ecc.). We are generally openminded, but also quite traditional about other things, like family, dating, education...personally sometime I don't like at all tha "trasgressive-at-all-costs" attitude of some american singers...
I went ahead and watched the Bad Romance video and it's been so long since I've seen a North American music video that I was border line traumatized...... Kpop.... I love you even more now for showing me gorgeous guys without all the.... scary
I remember when I saw Miss A Hush mv there was a pretty clear shot of Min's cleavage, and it's not like a little "opps she bent down too far", it was an overhead shot with her in a shirt with a loose neckline. Anyway that shocked me a little bit because I don't see that very often in Kpop if at all.
not necessarily, a lot of artists in north america have songs written for them by people who are hired especially to wright songs. and the companies probably have a lot to do with everything. but i do agree with you that in korea a lot more is determined by the companies and less by the artists. :)
I think I saw one K-Pop video (I think it was EXO-K - Mama) that was incredibly artsy and it had this backstory for some reason. The music was really overblown too. Like it had this male chorus in the intro and this big orchestra and just- guys, it's pop music, not Die Hard or something like that. Really, I've seen a few K-Pop videos that are way too bombastic for what the song is.
Honestly, though, I stopped paying attention to music videos altogether a long time ago. Since I mainly listen to music while doing other stuff, I stopped caring.
Though, I did see that Sia video with Shia LaBeouf in it and it was about what I expected.
I was a huge fan of Gaga, Rihanna, , Ciara, JT, Eminem, 50cent and a whole host of American rappers up till 3-4 years ago. Never batted an eyelid at their fashion or sexuality onscreen. Not even at Gaga. Totally desensitized to their shock tactics.
After these years watching nothing but Kpop mvs, mostly BB, I get a huge shock whenever I revisit some of my past favs.... and I prefer the way I am now.
3:50 BWAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! im dying over here MArtina!!!
they should have a video of Koreans reacting to trey songz SMARTPHONE, Nicki manja ANACONDA, Rae sremmurd NO TYPE, Beyoncé 711, and Jessie j bang bang I would so love to see this please do a video on this
instead of 7/11 do pretty hurts
@9803kim they were just telling us about the experience they had with the students in the classes they were teaching, in no way were they trying to act like they were speaking for the entire population.
@xSmilesForYou LOLOL I was only slightly disturbed when i first watched it...until my best friend's 8 year old brother discovered it. Imagine walking in on an 8 year old "wiggling" in his bedroom with the music blasting. SOME THINGS CAN NOT BE UNSEEN.
Wow, I'm actually quite surprised to find out that American pop isn't that popular in Korea. Even when I go to Colombia, American pop artists get a lot of radio play and they show their videos on TV just as much as Latin artists.
that's true. and it workd on me as well. since the Korean vibe in their vids, sometimes I just think what Martina and Simon talk is also a little bit OMG.
When I first knew K-Pop I didn't like it either, and it's only last year that I really got into it. I was really, really into North American stuff though, and One Direction, of course. :)
We do not show nipples everywhere! Just sometimes and when it comes to Italy it's slightly different because that's just Italy, okay. The politics in Italy is kinda complicated.
at my school we had a Korean exchanged student program and i was an ambassador Korean students are pretty fun i like them;3
Oh Martina...you saw the Bilboa advertising *facepalm*...I'm Italian and every summer they show that ad on Tv but it's not a common thing, I mean, I find myself shocked even if I'm italian every time that I see it! this summer they didn't air it, yeeyy!
I live in North America, and I don't like the North American music videos, either, hahaha.
I get why they would be bored when it comes to Kanye West rapping with blinking lights. I def agree. I like something more creative like Big Bang's "Fantastic Baby" which had insane make up and costuming, or even the Backstreet Boys' "Everybody" which was an affectionate nod to all these old horror movies. It's just more interesting to look at vs. strobe lights and a guy blasting words into a microphone.
It's really true about European videos, especially in my country Finland...
I watched this video having meal, and all of sudden I realize this channel's name is Eat your Kimchi and I literally ate kimchi. Oh...
I went and watched the Poker Face music video after you guys brought it up and I was like "Where's that section Martina was talking about?" and then I realized I was watching it and just didn't think it was a big deal. Lol.
IF ONLY MY SCHOOL HAD THIS KIND OF MUSIC VIDEO LESSON!!! IT'D BE AWESOME!
"We can't show nipples"...... and then the Rhianna "Work" video was born...
HOLY CRAP!!!
the thing at the end at how some countries dont except other music culture is sooo true!
i LOVE k-pop but when i show my family everyone is just like "they're gay", or they just derp out.
WHY IS THE WORLD SO CRUEL!!!!! *starts crying a river*
lol at 2:04 anyone else wonder how Simon was like in high school?? haha and Martina!! u guys should show ur high school pictures!!
I also laughed at the ending to the Bad Romance video at first. I think thats because I was still like knowing that this looks really bizarre and insane. But now I'm like over all the craziness.
@MooseKatJar Yes but those are the rare ones that come out once in a while. Overall though it isn't always the way they act in their performances/music videos but the way they dress. So far thankfully we haven't seen where they're as skankily dressed as North American music artists. We all know we've seen Lady Gaga and many other artists practically naked on the stage with just a piece of cloth covering their body.
That was interesting to watch~ I find it's the opposite for Japanese students. I have heaps of Japanese friends who love American music. American music seems to be very popular over there, but Japanese music isn't as popular in other countries.
in older america, like 1920's-1950's music was more about artistry and developing new genres and types of music. that doesn't mean there weren't dirty things in their real lives. for example, many don't know that Louis Armstrong smoke weed A LOT, 2 cigar blunts a day (it was better than alchoal at the time)
today not everyone likes club or dirty music, like i don't. there's many musicians that focus on the artistry and especially on the meaning of it all, which i listen to and so do many others.
You should show your students Mercy by Duffy and tell us their reactions when they find out it's similar to Dancing Queen from SNSD...
You are so right about italy!!!!!!!!!!!! Here it's really not a big deal coz' every single celebrity does a calendar where they are completely naked...