They really should've just taken 5-10 more years to complete the DCEU AND THEN do a reboot, BUT NOOO! They just HAD to do another Reboot! Now WB is stuck having to make a box office smash hit that appeals to all audiences or its Game Over!!
@DaveMiller2 I heard about that. Aaron reported on that in 2023! The DCEU was going to turn into a full blown DCAU with the Justice League having like dozens of heroes on the team. We could've had that BUT ONCE AGAIN, NOOO!
@ People wanted the DCEU to continue but we wanted it to be fixed. After Shazam, the universe became disconnected and the filmmakers just went off doing their own things rather than building towards a big endgame, like Darksied coming to Earth. They could've absolutely fixed things if they went back to a serious tone for their films and an overarching story. The pieces felt like they were in place. The Snyder Cut had come out, Henry Cavil was back in 2022 and everyone was excited about it! They could've done MOS 2, the Batfleck solo film, and finished the Justice Leauge Trilogy. But instead, not even 2 months after WB said Cavil was back as Superman, they fire him and say the DCEU was getting the HARD-R (Reboot) making people not bother watching the 2023 films because there was no point if they were going to reboot anyway. I believe they could've fixed everything if they went back in a coherent direction but instead they chose the most uncertain and dumbest avenue possible with the reboot.
@ I'll give you that about Bruce and Lois having a kid, I didn't really like that either, but Zack's said that he's created new storyboards 4 JL2&3 at this point, and if people know about that BIG plot point in the OG scripts, I feel like the new storyboard he's made now wouldn't include that.
@@themadnucleus101 I think at worst it’s gonna do black Adam numbers in the 400 mil range. But most likely 500 to 700 mil range. I’ll be surprised if it gets to 800 mil quite frankly
I'm not really a fan of the loose or baggy Superman costume only because it's suppose to go underneath his Clark Kent shirt or coat. I dunno how they would portray that in the movie.
And at the same time, Henry Cavil would have been perfect also for an already established Superman, especially with Nick Hoult as Lex because Jesse's version wasn't strong or threatening enough for Cavil's superman version. I think all the other cast chosen for Gunn's movie would have paired perfectly with him also. A 6 year age gap between him and Rachel is better than a Lois Lane who is nearly 10 years older.
@@power279 you people love to deny the pandemic’s effect on box office but heres one fact Nolan had his first flop during the pandemic Post pandemic, he had possibly the biggest success of his career Nearing Dark Knight’s numbers but also having a lower budget (and making bank thanks to his deal)
Technically we wouldn’t have any DC content if that does happen. Snyderverse won’t come back either way so idk why people are calling for a flop. Don’t wanna watch it that’s fine
Its one of the most viewed trailers ever. All the top viewed trailers have become billion dollar films. Not saying this one will be the Interest is there and it will be a hit. The dceu is dead get over it but if you think this movie is going to flop for whatever reason, you're a fucking idiot straight up.
Its ridiculous that DC swiped the slate clean and started over while Marvel brings back all the old characters. If DC didn't have a child in charge we could have had MOS2 along with Batman and Deathstroke.
So you want DC to be as dumb as Marvel? Because bringing back old characters is only for fan service and not telling an actually good story or enhancing the universe in any way.
Batman should've made over $1b and not a basic $700 million. This is because of WBD owner and Gunn. They need to sell off the DC library to a reputable company that knows how to bring it to a higher level calibre.
Of course it will fail! Why is this a surprise?? They got rid of Henry Cavill and the entire Snyder-verse, to make a stupid comedy / live action cartoon. Honestly wtf do you expect?? You expect it to actually be good?🤡 Come on guys😂
@@GraceGodson-qh5cr READ THE WRITING 0N THE WALL....iti has gt0g vibes and the cheap l00king 70s c0stumes...it will be 2025 versi0n 0f 1997 Batman and R0bin. what happened fr0m Keat0n film tt0 Schumachers is what this is fr0m Snyder t0 Gunn
So basically we’re never gonna get a good looking Superman suit as long as James Gunn in charge cause he’s offended by muscles?… I’m tired of this shit. What kinda cuck shit is that?
@MarkGuerrero-e9c who asked for Snyder here? who said watchman is flop? Delulu guy .. The flash lost millions, but both the movie you mentioned, it did outgrossed the production.
@@nikxon_musicz if we are just talking the production cost as the number put down then yeah all 3 made more than their production. But not much more and all 3 failed to profit. Watchmen was a flop 187 million against a 150 million budget Flash did 271 million against a 220 million budget Sucker Punch 89 million against an 82 million budget
@@MarkGuerrero-e9c so ? What are you trying to prove ? Where is the marketing budget of Flash ? Why you are so obsessed with Snyder ? He already had a big hit with WB with 300 ...
as much as we LOVE superman, we need to REMEMBER when Gunn did and stopped everything after we were SOOOOOOOO excited about cavills announcement. people DONT FORGET those emotions. i was sooo angry when gunn hit the eject button.: we were FINALLY getting the established superman in JL
Wasn’t really Gunn’s fault. They just brought Cavill back for some cameos which was confirmed by his contract. They weren’t gonna continue the Universe anyways. James Gunn was just the one who did it.
🤷🏽♂️Remember ladies and gents, the cinematographer for the Flash is returned for Superman. If it makes 600m how is it a success?🤔 MoS made over that and was considered a “flop” but 600m now is good? That’s less than MOS because inflation
I know tons of ppl, ppl can call bs idc, i know dozens of ppl, either attracted to cavill or love his superman, ppl havent forgotten, were waiting in silence, waiting for this movie to fail
@ we all saw how down to earth, and dedicated Henry was, he’s a humble person, and loves what he does, Witcher season was doing great, and he left that show to play Superman, and they screwed him over, Gunn won’t prevail after that.
@hulk-smash-deez-hose.7951 that's actually not why he left. I can send you the link where he says it was because he wanted to work on his war hammer show
I can not believe Robert Patterson will be dumped into James Gunn's DCEU or recast in it. The Batman is far superior to anything James Gunn has done in DCEU.
I just rewatched both Man of Steel and Batman V. Superman. Going off the trailer that was released for Gunn's Superman movie, Gunn doesn't have a prayer. From the suit to the VFX and beyond how can he say that HIS Superman is going to be more practical when I'm seeing the opposite and then sum. I don't understand how certain people call themselves Business Executives, etc. would have bad taste in products that are clearly not what the audience, NOT CRITICS, want. It's obvious they are in our faces about how disrespectful they are not only to the audience but the people who put time, effort, and struggle just create what they dreamed to one day create for other fans of characters, franchises, etc.
@BingeGamer69 "more than the box office" could care less of mcu's financial success. Are they actual good films? Or a parody of comic books? If superman enda being good i dont care if flops I'll say it's good and admit it. But I'm not fooling myself. I knw what makes gunn ticks and that is his jokes that's all he cares for talking weird animals and tastless jokes.
@humdi2573 I mean they are also known as one of the best comic book trilogies so yes they are good. And most people working on the movie has come out saying it doesn't have Gunns typical Humor. And his favorite comic is Superman so he does care about the comics it's using as source material
The people on X that say they are real DC fans are hyping up Superman so much that you have to wonder about their mental states. Saying stuff like "SUPERMAN IS GOING TO MAKE A BILLION DOLLARS!" to "SUPERMAN IS GOING TO GET AN OSCAR." I almost think these people are either hired by WB as part of a "hype farm" or they are just crazy.
Superman has such an incredible mountain climb to overcome its obstacles. I think the reboot was inevitable but done too soon. They DCEU should have had a proper finish and could have bled into this reboot. That would be respecting what came before, as Gunn says. But my fear is the same as yours. It will be humorous, derivative, and a ‘copy & paste’ scenario. Aside from Krypto, I see nothing overly new to the movie. Superman is my favorite superhero and I am not enthusiastic to run out and see this like I had with every other Superhero release
that is exactly what i have been saying....f0r 50 years i have supp0rted everything and anything 0n Superman until n0w...i h0pe this film fails and Gunn is fired and then we get an0ther direct0r wh0ever just n0t Gunn
NAH. WB will be cool with anything that turns a profit here, even if its 500 range. As long as the critical and WOM is good. They've invested so much into the DCU as a long game franchise
Hi Aaron! Good to see you get better. Hang in there for a complete recovery! Anyway, ZSJL and all the connecting Snyder DC movies are very cheered and popular here in Italy. Many of us have signed the petition at the time, and we Love what we got! I Hope the full story gets finished someday. I work at an International Airport and while meeting and chatting with hundreds of people here are confused and chatting after the new Superman trailer, everyone I've met so far say the same..."where's the greatest Superman up until the very end at the end of "Black Adam". I believe Warner Brothers has cut off a worldwide disappointed fan base. Take care and Rock on! ✌🏻😎🇮🇹
All I’m saying is, if I’m not interested in it, it’s not gonna make it opening weekend or any day beyond that. And I’m here for it… They made the worse decision ever as far as WB/DC. I gave JG a chance to convince me.
They needed to stay with Zack. WB DCU will continue to give us cinematic garbage. They don't know what's going on. Gunn has zero idea of Universe Creating. These characters and costumes from the Flash movie to superflop look like Walmart specials. Bring back Zack. End of story. Another great video and insights bro. Get well soon. I haven't watched anything and will not see anything under that sicko's DCU. I refuse to support a guy who screwed over so many people and the type of person he is. He should be in getting help not making movies let alone in charge of the DCU PERIOD
Superman was NEVER going to be a box office smash. DC is in the gutter right now and they need to create good will for the brand. The obstacle Superman faces is to get the audience interested in the world created, that the sequel or next entry in the DCU will pull in the audience. Compare to Batman Begins... after Batman & Robin destroyed the IP, Batman Begins didn't make a box office smash, but it captured the audience... fast forward to its sequel The Dark Knight. This is what Superman needs to pull off
@noah2009yeah That doesn't change my mind what so ever Cornball looks like the weakest Superman on screen I have ever seen and also the fact he doesn't even look like Superman unlike the best Superman EVER Henry Cavill.
Aaron, 800 million would be a disaster, Gunn's costume designer on this Superman movie was the same costume designer on Guardians of the Galaxy, she was interviewed and they asked her what it was like to create the Superman suit and she said she had a lot more freedom with this film because the budget was higher, Guardians of the Galaxy 3 had a 275 million budget, now she's saying that Superman's budget was higher that's a 300 million movie and that's not counting marketing which is at least going to be a 100 million for films like this, this movie If It Makes 800 million will lose 200 million dollars for Warner Brothers, this movie needs to make a billion dollars just to pull even, that's why all these delusional people are not facing facts, if this movie doesn't make a billion it's a financial disaster regardless of what Warner Brothers says
The movie industry is so out of touch. The fact that they don't pay attention to what works, or think that the Flash movie was one of the best superhero movies ever made. It's almost like they are trying to sabotage their own business. I'm guessing some of the higher-ups set things up to fail and are making a profit behind the scenes. The fact that Andy Muschietti thinks the Flash failed because of "movie demographics," and not because of bad graphics and CGI. It was more of a joke, not enough depth. And with all of the crazy disturbing headlines that was going on with Ezra Miller, says that Andy himself is out of touch. Maybe he should stick to horror. Here's a message for you Warner Bros. Make a good movie. Stop making a joke of everything. Comedy has it's place. Stop thinking that just because it's in the comics, that it will work on the big screen. Stop making everything like a cartoon. It's not just DC, Marvel seems to be doing the same thing.
My pitch for Superman: Man of Tomorrow is an introspective story following Superman as he travels through the cosmos alongside his cousin Kara Zor-El in an effort to stop Brainiac from taking Earth as a part of his collection. Clark is met with help from Hal Jordan and John Stewart and occasional hindrance in the form of Lobo. Thoughts?
Like Superman: Up in the Sky. Nice. Probably would say use another green lantern like Tomar Re and tease Hal or John at the end. Seems like an emotional movie between 2 cousins.
Over a decade of people saying Zack Snyder's DC films are all style with no substance. It turns out that all those people needed was brighter colours, which is surely style over substance, because the teaser trailer gives no actual substance away. The DCU is already not a cohesive universe. Just look at the tone in Creature Commandos... and everything that is connected to it from the DCEU.
Here's the thing: if this film matches Man of Steel dollar for dollar...that would mean that in terms of ticket sales...it would sell a LOT less than Man of Steel. There has been TWELVE years of ticket price inflation since Man of Steel. So matching it dollar for dollar would mean that the ticket sales actually shrank by a pretty dramatic margin. That's why The Batman making $770M in 2022 when The Dark Knight made $1B in 2008 represents an evening LARGER decline in audience. Not just the 30% reduction in raw box office results...but likely a 40% or more reduction in audience size. This is very crucial for people to understand.
It really needs to make a Billion to break even. This movie cost about $350 Million. Marketing the movie will cost $100-150 Million. Theatre takes roughly half the cost from the admission. $800 Million might be enough to green lit part 2, but I don't think it'll hit that. It's facing tough competition before and after the opening day. Pattison and ZS fans are not happy with James Gunn and I don't see them going to this movie. General audience will just be confused with the reboot and ask why.
@@MostlyMocchiHe’s a chronically liar. The dude can’t tell the truth if his life depended on it. There’s documentation from Cleveland that says otherwise. It’s accessible to everyone. Even writing it off, it’s still over $300 million.
@@MarkGuerrero-e9c Geez, you believe Gunn like he's an honest guy. This dude been caught lying multiple times. There's records out there that he can't debunk.
@@derekfreeman1942 Show *YOUR* intelligence by actually googling shit! He groomed and kidnapped a teen kid, ran a cult with the kid and kept guns on that same property. Call me when you tossed the privilege card and your brainstem grows in!
Is good to see you recuperating steady, you look and sound so much better. I would like to remind all fans that the Diaperman needs to make approx. 4 times its budget to be profitable. BUT most importantly, it has to make $904.6 Million to beat Man Of Steel at the box office. Gunn is gonna need all the luck in the world and then some more.
Lol, where do you come up with this stuff? Movies have to make approx twice their budget (when including the promotion costs) to be profitable, not four times. Stop making things up and moving the goal posts just to support your own agenda. It's so obvious.
If Superman doesnt make more or same as The Batman then its definitely a fail. They will say its a success either way. I mean look at The Suicide Squad. That movie bombed but rotten tomatoes said it was awesome and James Gunn got hired.
You’re wrong Aaron. These commentators aren’t delusional. They’re PAID!!! It’s the greatest superhero movie of all time!!! Marlon Brando said all of America needs to see Gunn’s Superman. It’s true!!!
2:56 Good, I despise Spider-man Now Way Home. That is the worst CMB ever made, that includes Captain Marvel, Batman and Robin, Catwoman and the abomination known as Superman 3 along with WW84. Plus I watched the Snyder cut a few days ago for the first time and I'm pleasantly surprised. It was pretty good. The blind hatred by a bunch of "DC" marks is insane.
I agree if superman legacy does not the make more than man of steel, it would be a flop, but I assure you James Gunn and his cultists would consider it a success even if it made 400 - 600 million and we all know James Gunn does what James Gunn wants. This DCU is not really connected anyways like MCU. All his movies would have self contained stories not building up to a bigger story. F James Gunn
My friend you are preaching to the choir on this, you brought up several good points about this whole thing that I cold heartily agree. And I've listened to other people that have talked about James Gunn's new DCU initiative that he is pushing for and yet some bring up some also good points about that they're willing to give it a chance to see where it goes, and I'm on their side on that, but at the same time I'm also concerned too that this could be over before it even begins.
the flash failed because it was trash. not because people arent interested. warner messed this up so badly its insane. they should have stuck with snyders plans for the character
I really dont know who at DC needs to get through their head that people literally dont give af about these silly TV series. None of them have been good. People wont care because the cinematic universe is a flop. So aggravating
It’s only half of the full slate of This chapter and also we’re getting another chapter after chapter 1 and most likely a Superman 2 will happen but that doesn’t mean Superman will not show up in other projects
Considering crazy money they spent on this movie it needs to make a billion just to break even. If it makes $600 million (which I doubt it will) that means they're still losing about $400 million.
Consider that MOS was 9th highest grossing movies of 2013, 9th highest of 2024 was Mufasa with 542M. So no the inflation argument doesn't work
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@@swipe7249 what are you 58 IQ'd? conversion for inflation is required as business model 101, the price of tickets was not the same back in 2013, the diaperman needs to make $904.6 million to beat MoS. it will NEVER happen, enjoy your flop.
I only have my interest set on The Batman 2 after the huge critical hit of The Penguin. I really hope that Matt Reeves makes Freeze the villain of the movie and I would like to see more projects set in The Batman like Arkham. As for Gunn none of his projects get me interested or even excited for them. Why would I waste my time watching an animated series filled with juvenile humour much like the Harley Quinn and Velma show. It's so bizarre having that animated series being the start of a new cinematic universe.
All these directors saying the same thing “We shall see what happens” Warner bros executives arent happy with the gunn supes trailer Its been well documented And if that movie fails U can kiss gunns dcu goodbye And maybe Just maybe Warner bros might call mr snyder To save their asses😊
@@milkmansuperman7581snyder made supes look confident and powerful Gunns version is beaten bloody and saved by a little dog in the opening moments of hes trailer
DC studios loves to move the goal posts. Superman better make more than 800 million if not, it’s a flop. I think it will make about what Black Adam made in theaters. ✌🏽
Yeah i dont even see movie making past $600 million at the most and its not good to having divided fan base none what so ever so that alone will play a big part guarantee it
Josh Brolin don’t need Gunn’s DCU. He was Thanos in the MCU and Cable in Deadpool 2. Why is everyone willing to destroy their career and waste their talents in James Gunn’s DCU?
It's mind-blowing that some people consider a movie made for under a billion to be a flop. 600-700 million is a success, but it's a huge success if the audience and critics love it so they can come back from the next DC projects.
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Snyder Haters / Gunn Cultists logic when it comes to Snyder films, but not others. Hypocrites. on the other hand, the budget is reportedly $375 million, it has to make a billion to be successful. duh!
Batman’s enemy will be…….the long-standing behind the scenes Warner Bros! Will be tricky bringing such villain onto the screen, but the script in the hands of a good story teller can make it a sure thang!
Good to see you back on and know you’re recovering. I’ve been saying since Gunn took over that if I had to bet I’d say this DCU will be a success. Not for me though.
It's like Warner Bros. is actively trying to annoy us with their ridiculous business decisions.
David Zaslav really needs to be fired.
They really should've just taken 5-10 more years to complete the DCEU AND THEN do a reboot, BUT NOOO! They just HAD to do another Reboot! Now WB is stuck having to make a box office smash hit that appeals to all audiences or its Game Over!!
After 9 flops in a row, a reboot was completely necessary.
@DaveMiller2 I heard about that. Aaron reported on that in 2023! The DCEU was going to turn into a full blown DCAU with the Justice League having like dozens of heroes on the team. We could've had that BUT ONCE AGAIN, NOOO!
No one was interested in seeing anymore of Mickey Mouse voiced Lex or Lois having Batmans baby. Gross
@ People wanted the DCEU to continue but we wanted it to be fixed. After Shazam, the universe became disconnected and the filmmakers just went off doing their own things rather than building towards a big endgame, like Darksied coming to Earth. They could've absolutely fixed things if they went back to a serious tone for their films and an overarching story. The pieces felt like they were in place. The Snyder Cut had come out, Henry Cavil was back in 2022 and everyone was excited about it! They could've done MOS 2, the Batfleck solo film, and finished the Justice Leauge Trilogy. But instead, not even 2 months after WB said Cavil was back as Superman, they fire him and say the DCEU was getting the HARD-R (Reboot) making people not bother watching the 2023 films because there was no point if they were going to reboot anyway. I believe they could've fixed everything if they went back in a coherent direction but instead they chose the most uncertain and dumbest avenue possible with the reboot.
@ I'll give you that about Bruce and Lois having a kid, I didn't really like that either, but Zack's said that he's created new storyboards 4 JL2&3 at this point, and if people know about that BIG plot point in the OG scripts, I feel like the new storyboard he's made now wouldn't include that.
James Gunn's "notes" always require reshoots. Funny how that's worked over his tenure at the DCU.
I've been arguing the same point that this movie won't even outgross MoS
Adjusted to inflation mos is close to a billion so the pressure is really on from a box office standpoint
@@themadnucleus101not really, there gonna base it on what man of steel did originally. Not adjusted for inflation
@kc5466 i still don't think it's gonna do as well as mos honestly
@@themadnucleus101 I think at worst it’s gonna do black Adam numbers in the 400 mil range.
But most likely 500 to 700 mil range. I’ll be surprised if it gets to 800 mil quite frankly
I think it will outgross MoS.
No Snyderverse NO MONEY! Wallets Closed. and FO Gunnturdos!
I'm not really a fan of the loose or baggy Superman costume only because it's suppose to go underneath his Clark Kent shirt or coat. I dunno how they would portray that in the movie.
Ben Affleck's age would fit the Batman they currently need perfectly. It's too bad
WTF are you talking about Ben Affleck is fucking 52 and the movie doesn't release until at least 2028.
And at the same time, Henry Cavil would have been perfect also for an already established Superman, especially with Nick Hoult as Lex because Jesse's version wasn't strong or threatening enough for Cavil's superman version. I think all the other cast chosen for Gunn's movie would have paired perfectly with him also. A 6 year age gap between him and Rachel is better than a Lois Lane who is nearly 10 years older.
I say we need George Clooney back. 😂
@@rex-rant4322Remember those rumours that said that George Clooney was coming back as DCU Batman 😂
@therealmr.incredible3179 yup
The batman solo movie only made 700+ million..and they think they can do more? Lol😂😂😂
You can’t make this stuff up bro. 😂🤣😂
The Batman did 700+ million in less than 2 months
Exactly.
So? That’s a success and pretty good, not ever film needs to make a billion unless it’s budget is extremely high like 400 million w
@@power279 you people love to deny the pandemic’s effect on box office but heres one fact
Nolan had his first flop during the pandemic
Post pandemic, he had possibly the biggest success of his career
Nearing Dark Knight’s numbers but also having a lower budget (and making bank thanks to his deal)
I dont think anybody realizes how big a disaster it will be if Superman tanks...
I hope so
Technically we wouldn’t have any DC content if that does happen. Snyderverse won’t come back either way so idk why people are calling for a flop. Don’t wanna watch it that’s fine
I rather save my money for foods or toys😂
😂😂😂...thank you😂😂😂 I needed that.🤣🤣🤣
Ok….
Its one of the most viewed trailers ever. All the top viewed trailers have become billion dollar films. Not saying this one will be the Interest is there and it will be a hit. The dceu is dead get over it but if you think this movie is going to flop for whatever reason, you're a fucking idiot straight up.
😂😂
RIP. DCU
Its ridiculous that DC swiped the slate clean and started over while Marvel brings back all the old characters.
If DC didn't have a child in charge we could have had MOS2 along with Batman and Deathstroke.
Facts
So now you want them to copy marvel?
also Dc has been bringing back old actors long before marvel ever did it
Agreed 👍🏻 Although,I think a child would have handled it better✌🏻😂
So you want DC to be as dumb as Marvel? Because bringing back old characters is only for fan service and not telling an actually good story or enhancing the universe in any way.
@@MarkGuerrero-e9cno.
600 mil is fine. The studios cook the books anyway. As long as it's entertaining and has a coherent story is all that matters. IMHO
A lot of hypocrisy coming out with this new Superman. The delusion is real with these people.
Goofiegunn loved the goofy Batclooney, that's why he wanted Andy to put him in it. 😂😂😂😂😂
Superman underpants looks comically childish and only belongs in the comics and not on the screen.
I wish this movie is a box office hit, I need more superman than any other hero.
Wallets Closed. Great Video. James Gunn FAILS.
We all know you gon be the first person there
@@KC2K6They are gonna watch it to hate it 😂
@@milkmansuperman7581 lol
@@KC2K6 with your mom in my lap yes, we won't be watching the film and she'll pay for it thou.
@@milkmansuperman7581 0nly via T0rrent...n0t giving gunn my hard earned m0ney
Batman should've made over $1b and not a basic $700 million. This is because of WBD owner and Gunn. They need to sell off the DC library to a reputable company that knows how to bring it to a higher level calibre.
Of course it will fail! Why is this a surprise?? They got rid of Henry Cavill and the entire Snyder-verse, to make a stupid comedy / live action cartoon. Honestly wtf do you expect?? You expect it to actually be good?🤡 Come on guys😂
But can I ask you something ??, why do you sound as if you have watched the movie 😒😒
@@GraceGodson-qh5cr READ THE WRITING 0N THE WALL....iti has gt0g vibes and the cheap l00king 70s c0stumes...it will be 2025 versi0n 0f 1997 Batman and R0bin. what happened fr0m Keat0n film tt0 Schumachers is what this is fr0m Snyder t0 Gunn
So basically we’re never gonna get a good looking Superman suit as long as James Gunn in charge cause he’s offended by muscles?… I’m tired of this shit. What kinda cuck shit is that?
Agreed
The DCU already looks terrible so far. What were they thinking?
In what way does it look terrible? You guys are so negative
@@OwenYoung-yv1vc for real... dog crap looks better.
@@Richard-st3hy Justified given the craps WB did for decades hence negative feedbacks.
The Flash movie failed so badly so why do they think they can do the right thing with a new Batman? It is horror story.
Who will give Muschietty another movie since the The Flash has flopped hard????
This is so bad..
@@nikxon_musicz they gave snyder man of steel after snyder flopped with both Watchmen and Sucker Punch
@MarkGuerrero-e9c watchman is a flop ? Areyou delulu ? ..and who is asking about Snyder here?
You really are delulu. Pathetic... Syder syndrome 😂😂
@MarkGuerrero-e9c who asked for Snyder here? who said watchman is flop? Delulu guy ..
The flash lost millions, but both the movie you mentioned, it did outgrossed the production.
@@nikxon_musicz if we are just talking the production cost as the number put down
then yeah all 3 made more than their production.
But not much more and all 3 failed to profit.
Watchmen was a flop
187 million against a 150 million budget
Flash did 271 million against a 220 million budget
Sucker Punch 89 million against an 82 million budget
@@MarkGuerrero-e9c so ?
What are you trying to prove ? Where is the marketing budget of Flash ?
Why you are so obsessed with Snyder ? He already had a big hit with WB with 300 ...
as much as we LOVE superman, we need to REMEMBER when Gunn did and stopped everything after we were SOOOOOOOO excited about cavills announcement. people DONT FORGET those emotions. i was sooo angry when gunn hit the eject button.: we were FINALLY getting the established superman in JL
Nope. It was WAYY too little too late. We could’ve had an mos 2 years ago if they were dropping good movies
Wasn’t really Gunn’s fault. They just brought Cavill back for some cameos which was confirmed by his contract. They weren’t gonna continue the Universe anyways. James Gunn was just the one who did it.
I would be surprised if Superman makes as much as Batman Begins. The budget is $400 million before reshoots
🤷🏽♂️Remember ladies and gents, the cinematographer for the Flash is returned for Superman.
If it makes 600m how is it a success?🤔 MoS made over that and was considered a “flop” but 600m now is good? That’s less than MOS because inflation
There’s no success for James Gunn, after getting rid of Henry cavill, there’s no way fans are going to forget that.
I know tons of ppl, ppl can call bs idc, i know dozens of ppl, either attracted to cavill or love his superman, ppl havent forgotten, were waiting in silence, waiting for this movie to fail
@@TheSoulWithin7wow dozens against millions I wonder who will win😂
@@TheSoulWithin7 then why Cavil's Movies are flopping back to back?
@ we all saw how down to earth, and dedicated Henry was, he’s a humble person, and loves what he does, Witcher season was doing great, and he left that show to play Superman, and they screwed him over, Gunn won’t prevail after that.
@hulk-smash-deez-hose.7951 that's actually not why he left. I can send you the link where he says it was because he wanted to work on his war hammer show
Man of Steel did 670M in 2013 - with an average of 2.5% to 3% inflation rate per year - that would be 907-955M today - So this can be the benchmark
@@Tonkybro3 and with inflation superman the movie did 1.5 billion
I can not believe Robert Patterson will be dumped into James Gunn's DCEU or recast in it. The Batman is far superior to anything James Gunn has done in DCEU.
I just rewatched both Man of Steel and Batman V. Superman. Going off the trailer that was released for Gunn's Superman movie, Gunn doesn't have a prayer. From the suit to the VFX and beyond how can he say that HIS Superman is going to be more practical when I'm seeing the opposite and then sum. I don't understand how certain people call themselves Business Executives, etc. would have bad taste in products that are clearly not what the audience, NOT CRITICS, want. It's obvious they are in our faces about how disrespectful they are not only to the audience but the people who put time, effort, and struggle just create what they dreamed to one day create for other fans of characters, franchises, etc.
Rebel ridge was your movie of the year!? How
More than the box office, I just don't think this movie is gonna be any different than other gunn movies. That, to me, is where it will fail.
The man has a trilogy that brought in 2 billion. If it's anything like them it will do well
It did those numbers coz of the Marvel brand.I hadn't even heard of Gunn before GOTG@@BingeGamer69
@BingeGamer69 "more than the box office" could care less of mcu's financial success. Are they actual good films? Or a parody of comic books? If superman enda being good i dont care if flops I'll say it's good and admit it. But I'm not fooling myself. I knw what makes gunn ticks and that is his jokes that's all he cares for talking weird animals and tastless jokes.
@humdi2573 I mean they are also known as one of the best comic book trilogies so yes they are good. And most people working on the movie has come out saying it doesn't have Gunns typical Humor. And his favorite comic is Superman so he does care about the comics it's using as source material
@@BingeGamer69WOW he rode the MCU brand, what an achievement...
Snyder's Justice League SUCKED! Lets keep it a buck.
Gunn's formulas just wont work on DC...
The people on X that say they are real DC fans are hyping up Superman so much that you have to wonder about their mental states. Saying stuff like "SUPERMAN IS GOING TO MAKE A BILLION DOLLARS!" to "SUPERMAN IS GOING TO GET AN OSCAR."
I almost think these people are either hired by WB as part of a "hype farm" or they are just crazy.
Superman has such an incredible mountain climb to overcome its obstacles. I think the reboot was inevitable but done too soon. They DCEU should have had a proper finish and could have bled into this reboot. That would be respecting what came before, as Gunn says. But my fear is the same as yours. It will be humorous, derivative, and a ‘copy & paste’ scenario. Aside from Krypto, I see nothing overly new to the movie. Superman is my favorite superhero and I am not enthusiastic to run out and see this like I had with every other Superhero release
that is exactly what i have been saying....f0r 50 years i have supp0rted everything and anything 0n Superman until n0w...i h0pe this film fails and Gunn is fired and then we get an0ther direct0r wh0ever just n0t Gunn
People want a badass Superman not a Superman getting his ass beat
Hmm 🤔 I think are right, but I think it's still going to be good
NAH. WB will be cool with anything that turns a profit here, even if its 500 range. As long as the critical and WOM is good. They've invested so much into the DCU as a long game franchise
Aaron I am praying for your FULL RECOVERY 🙏❤️
Zach Snyder Justice League is still making money till today
Hi Aaron! Good to see you get better. Hang in there for a complete recovery! Anyway, ZSJL and all the connecting Snyder DC movies are very cheered and popular here in Italy. Many of us have signed the petition at the time, and we Love what we got! I Hope the full story gets finished someday. I work at an International Airport and while meeting and chatting with hundreds of people here are confused and chatting after the new Superman trailer, everyone I've met so far say the same..."where's the greatest Superman up until the very end at the end of "Black Adam". I believe Warner Brothers has cut off a worldwide disappointed fan base. Take care and Rock on! ✌🏻😎🇮🇹
Superman is my most anticipated movie of 2025
That is fabricated. Not even close.
@myreview-aaronfischer It's not fabricated in the slightest, the so called hate is fabricated
Maybe for you, but the majority found that 2025 Superman looks low budget compared to a DC SW shows.
Henry cavillsuit was darker than that real dark so what are you talking about dude??😡
Lmao the DCU is already screwed, starting it with an animated series that kids cant and shouldnt watch was beyond dumb...
No I don't want Pattison's wimpy Batman. 😞
All I’m saying is, if I’m not interested in it, it’s not gonna make it opening weekend or any day beyond that. And I’m here for it… They made the worse decision ever as far as WB/DC. I gave JG a chance to convince me.
They needed to stay with Zack. WB DCU will continue to give us cinematic garbage. They don't know what's going on. Gunn has zero idea of Universe Creating.
These characters and costumes from the Flash movie to superflop look like Walmart specials. Bring back Zack. End of story. Another great video and insights bro. Get well soon. I haven't watched anything and will not see anything under that sicko's DCU. I refuse to support a guy who screwed over so many people and the type of person he is. He should be in getting help not making movies let alone in charge of the DCU PERIOD
honestly DCU and WBD is a complete mess right now. i feel like any actor who intends to join them is simply risking their career.
Preach that truth Aaron I can't wait till it comes out and your 💯% right 👍
I can’t wait till it comes out and he’s wrong.
@@NickWhite-fw7dx I can't wait to see you in here when the Diaperman flops.
@ I can’t wait to come back here when Superman succeeds.
@NickWhite-fw7dx Don't worry u won't cause u will be crying yourself to sleep Cornball is a weak a## Superman on top of his garbage suit.
@@houseofel6252 bro thought he had a savage comeback💀💀💀
That costume alone has turned me off the movie. It's so dumb.
Superman was NEVER going to be a box office smash. DC is in the gutter right now and they need to create good will for the brand.
The obstacle Superman faces is to get the audience interested in the world created, that the sequel or next entry in the DCU will pull in the audience.
Compare to Batman Begins... after Batman & Robin destroyed the IP, Batman Begins didn't make a box office smash, but it captured the audience... fast forward to its sequel The Dark Knight.
This is what Superman needs to pull off
Cornball does not look like a Superman to me, he looks like a joke of a Superman.
Looks more like Superboy to me..his Clark looks fine, but we don't want a Clark movie
To me he looks like a thrift store cosplay of Superman.
@puichiung2959 lol 😂
Pls go look at Superman in the comics, even better look at Dan mora and Frank quitely Superman art
@noah2009yeah That doesn't change my mind what so ever Cornball looks like the weakest Superman on screen I have ever seen and also the fact he doesn't even look like Superman unlike the best Superman EVER Henry Cavill.
Crazy how Revee fans only exist online
Seeing Supergirl photo definitely means a Super “Barbie” Girl for DC.
Aaron,
800 million would be a disaster, Gunn's costume designer on this Superman movie was the same costume designer on Guardians of the Galaxy, she was interviewed and they asked her what it was like to create the Superman suit and she said she had a lot more freedom with this film because the budget was higher, Guardians of the Galaxy 3 had a 275 million budget, now she's saying that Superman's budget was higher that's a 300 million movie and that's not counting marketing which is at least going to be a 100 million for films like this, this movie If It Makes 800 million will lose 200 million dollars for Warner Brothers, this movie needs to make a billion dollars just to pull even, that's why all these delusional people are not facing facts, if this movie doesn't make a billion it's a financial disaster regardless of what Warner Brothers says
Any executive with common sense would have restored the snyderverse
The movie industry is so out of touch. The fact that they don't pay attention to what works, or think that the Flash movie was one of the best superhero movies ever made. It's almost like they are trying to sabotage their own business.
I'm guessing some of the higher-ups set things up to fail and are making a profit behind the scenes.
The fact that Andy Muschietti thinks the Flash failed because of "movie demographics," and not because of bad graphics and CGI. It was more of a joke, not enough depth. And with all of the crazy disturbing headlines that was going on with Ezra Miller, says that Andy himself is out of touch. Maybe he should stick to horror.
Here's a message for you Warner Bros. Make a good movie. Stop making a joke of everything. Comedy has it's place. Stop thinking that just because it's in the comics, that it will work on the big screen. Stop making everything like a cartoon.
It's not just DC, Marvel seems to be doing the same thing.
My pitch for Superman: Man of Tomorrow is an introspective story following Superman as he travels through the cosmos alongside his cousin Kara Zor-El in an effort to stop Brainiac from taking Earth as a part of his collection. Clark is met with help from Hal Jordan and John Stewart and occasional hindrance in the form of Lobo. Thoughts?
Man of Tomorrow is my pitch for Man of Steel 2.
Like Superman: Up in the Sky. Nice. Probably would say use another green lantern like Tomar Re and tease Hal or John at the end. Seems like an emotional movie between 2 cousins.
Over a decade of people saying Zack Snyder's DC films are all style with no substance. It turns out that all those people needed was brighter colours, which is surely style over substance, because the teaser trailer gives no actual substance away. The DCU is already not a cohesive universe. Just look at the tone in Creature Commandos... and everything that is connected to it from the DCEU.
Here's the thing: if this film matches Man of Steel dollar for dollar...that would mean that in terms of ticket sales...it would sell a LOT less than Man of Steel.
There has been TWELVE years of ticket price inflation since Man of Steel. So matching it dollar for dollar would mean that the ticket sales actually shrank by a pretty dramatic margin.
That's why The Batman making $770M in 2022 when The Dark Knight made $1B in 2008 represents an evening LARGER decline in audience. Not just the 30% reduction in raw box office results...but likely a 40% or more reduction in audience size.
This is very crucial for people to understand.
It really needs to make a Billion to break even. This movie cost about $350 Million. Marketing the movie will cost $100-150 Million. Theatre takes roughly half the cost from the admission. $800 Million might be enough to green lit part 2, but I don't think it'll hit that. It's facing tough competition before and after the opening day. Pattison and ZS fans are not happy with James Gunn and I don't see them going to this movie. General audience will just be confused with the reboot and ask why.
CW fans too after Gunn canned Superman and Lois three Seasons early.
gunn already said that the movie doesn't have a budget like that
@@MostlyMocchiHe’s a chronically liar. The dude can’t tell the truth if his life depended on it. There’s documentation from Cleveland that says otherwise. It’s accessible to everyone. Even writing it off, it’s still over $300 million.
@@Koum_Bets that budget has never been confirmed
In fact has been debunked multiple times
@@MarkGuerrero-e9c Geez, you believe Gunn like he's an honest guy. This dude been caught lying multiple times. There's records out there that he can't debunk.
Andy is full of shit. Hes not gonna be the director anymore. LOL 🤣
I hope he gets blacklisted for making that shitty Flash movie and for defending a groomer!
@wiinterflowers95 Ezra's not a groomer you're an dumb
@wiinterflowers95 Ezra is not a groomer. Goes to show your intelligence small.
@@derekfreeman1942 Show *YOUR* intelligence by actually googling shit! He groomed and kidnapped a teen kid, ran a cult with the kid and kept guns on that same property. Call me when you tossed the privilege card and your brainstem grows in!
Is good to see you recuperating steady, you look and sound so much better. I would like to remind all fans that the Diaperman needs to make approx. 4 times its budget to be profitable. BUT most importantly, it has to make $904.6 Million to beat Man Of Steel at the box office. Gunn is gonna need all the luck in the world and then some more.
Lol, where do you come up with this stuff? Movies have to make approx twice their budget (when including the promotion costs) to be profitable, not four times. Stop making things up and moving the goal posts just to support your own agenda. It's so obvious.
@@LaserPointer-n5r he’s a synder rider bro and a moron
For real man.
@@LaserPointer-n5r You are pretty ignorant of the industry looks like.
Where did you get that figure from??? Movies averagely need to make 2.5 its production budget to break even.
If Superman doesnt make more or same as The Batman then its definitely a fail. They will say its a success either way. I mean look at The Suicide Squad. That movie bombed but rotten tomatoes said it was awesome and James Gunn got hired.
You’re wrong Aaron. These commentators aren’t delusional. They’re PAID!!! It’s the greatest superhero movie of all time!!! Marlon Brando said all of America needs to see Gunn’s Superman. It’s true!!!
2:56 Good, I despise Spider-man Now Way Home. That is the worst CMB ever made, that includes Captain Marvel, Batman and Robin, Catwoman and the abomination known as Superman 3 along with WW84. Plus I watched the Snyder cut a few days ago for the first time and I'm pleasantly surprised. It was pretty good. The blind hatred by a bunch of "DC" marks is insane.
I hope it won't be a disaster. If it is I doubt they will ever make another superman movie again, at least not in my lifetime
We went from kevin costner as jonathan kent to gunn's harvey weinstein lmao 😂
I’m with you Aaron
I think it's wierd that James Gunn came out the gate with "Creature Commandos" it feels very on brand for Gunn. Then he wants to do The Authority 🙄
I agree if superman legacy does not the make more than man of steel, it would be a flop, but I assure you James Gunn and his cultists would consider it a success even if it made 400 - 600 million and we all know James Gunn does what James Gunn wants.
This DCU is not really connected anyways like MCU.
All his movies would have self contained stories not building up to a bigger story.
F James Gunn
James Gunn’s DCU is going to end before it even begins. It’s off to The Void for James Gunn’s DCU. Someone call the TVA.
My friend you are preaching to the choir on this, you brought up several good points about this whole thing that I cold heartily agree.
And I've listened to other people that have talked about James Gunn's new DCU initiative that he is pushing for and yet some bring up some also good points about that they're willing to give it a chance to see where it goes, and I'm on their side on that, but at the same time I'm also concerned too that this could be over before it even begins.
the flash failed because it was trash. not because people arent interested. warner messed this up so badly its insane. they should have stuck with snyders plans for the character
That picture shows how incompetent this management is
I really dont know who at DC needs to get through their head that people literally dont give af about these silly TV series. None of them have been good. People wont care because the cinematic universe is a flop. So aggravating
I love DC but i hope so that superman suit SUCKS…that movie looks wack..
Movies are bad these days. Everywhere you look.
Since Supergirl is also DC. I'm sure James Gunn's costume designer can do the magic one more time and make another terrible suit.
According to Gunn's slate, it only shows one Superman and one Supergirl movie...unless they are appearing in the other movies on his roster
It’s only half of the full slate of This chapter and also we’re getting another chapter after chapter 1 and most likely a Superman 2 will happen but that doesn’t mean Superman will not show up in other projects
This wasn’t a full slate so we might get more. I think he said sequels won’t be a priority but don’t quote me on that.
@khizeryusufzai2185 it was a big rumor from Dcu leaks who are very reliable, i don’t mind it tbh
Considering crazy money they spent on this movie it needs to make a billion just to break even. If it makes $600 million (which I doubt it will) that means they're still losing about $400 million.
700$ mil in 2013, adjusted for inflation today, would be how much?…. Say it again for the 🐑 in the back😂😂
Consider that MOS was 9th highest grossing movies of 2013, 9th highest of 2024 was Mufasa with 542M. So no the inflation argument doesn't work
@@swipe7249 what are you 58 IQ'd? conversion for inflation is required as business model 101, the price of tickets was not the same back in 2013, the diaperman needs to make $904.6 million to beat MoS. it will NEVER happen, enjoy your flop.
I only have my interest set on The Batman 2 after the huge critical hit of The Penguin. I really hope that Matt Reeves makes Freeze the villain of the movie and I would like to see more projects set in The Batman like Arkham.
As for Gunn none of his projects get me interested or even excited for them. Why would I waste my time watching an animated series filled with juvenile humour much like the Harley Quinn and Velma show. It's so bizarre having that animated series being the start of a new cinematic universe.
All these directors saying the same thing
“We shall see what happens”
Warner bros executives arent happy with the gunn supes trailer
Its been well documented
And if that movie fails
U can kiss gunns dcu goodbye
And maybe
Just maybe
Warner bros might call mr snyder
To save their asses😊
Snyder couldn't save his own ass and destroyed iconic IP
@@milkmansuperman7581snyder made supes look confident and powerful
Gunns version is beaten bloody and saved by a little dog in the opening moments of hes trailer
@@DEADHEAD16090976 superman was not supposed to look powerful, he's main strength has always been his heart
@ yeah sure kid
@@DEADHEAD16090976 then you don't know anything about superman
DC studios loves to move the goal posts. Superman better make more than 800 million if not, it’s a flop. I think it will make about what Black Adam made in theaters. ✌🏽
The Penguin isn't a full blown DCU project. It's an elseworld's project. 🤦🏻🔥
Gunn just made Pattinson part of the DCU, that means.... it is. 🤦♂🤦♂
DCU project just means any new projects under DC Studios.
@khizeryusufzai2185 DCU means canon DUH! are you 58 IQ'd?
@khizeryusufzai2185 The DCU IS canon based on Gunn, his words not mine. Stop making excuses for mediocrity bozo.
@houseofel6252 Exactly my man!
Creature Commandos ended. Finally Good News from WB!!!
It got greenlit for season 2 somehow
Yeah i dont even see movie making past $600 million at the most and its not good to having divided fan base none what so ever so that alone will play a big part guarantee it
They don't have enough water or funding for the fire fighters to put out the fires
Josh Brolin don’t need Gunn’s DCU. He was Thanos in the MCU and Cable in Deadpool 2. Why is everyone willing to destroy their career and waste their talents in James Gunn’s DCU?
I think it will make between 475 to 525 and looking at the calendar of movies coming out after July 11th I don't see it doing anywhere near 800
There was no need for a "reboot".
It's mind-blowing that some people consider a movie made for under a billion to be a flop. 600-700 million is a success, but it's a huge success if the audience and critics love it so they can come back from the next DC projects.
Snyder Haters / Gunn Cultists logic when it comes to Snyder films, but not others. Hypocrites. on the other hand, the budget is reportedly $375 million, it has to make a billion to be successful. duh!
Crybaby DCEU fanboys
It’s all hype until it happens and when it fails blame James Gunn and DCEU
This movie is going to fail soooo hard.
Batman’s enemy will be…….the long-standing behind the scenes Warner Bros! Will be tricky bringing such villain onto the screen, but the script in the hands of a good story teller can make it a sure thang!
Good to see you back on and know you’re recovering.
I’ve been saying since Gunn took over that if I had to bet I’d say this DCU will be a success. Not for me though.
I BET, it won't be a success.
Deadpool and Wolverine made a lot money as well.
I'm calling it right now. This movie is going to make 450 million .DOA on the spot 😅