Big fixes! Let's try helicopters in MSFS 2024 Sim Update 1 Beta

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  • @MicrosoftFlightSimulator
    @MicrosoftFlightSimulator 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    We're glad to hear you're enjoying the Sim Update 1 Beta. Keep up the great landings! 😎

    • @ImpendingJoker
      @ImpendingJoker วันที่ผ่านมา

      So when are you going to make Carenado fix their messed up R-66? Shouldn't be that hard to reverse that animation in the main rotor. Also they need to tone down the exhaust effect in their planes and helicopters. Looks more like a natural gas leak than heat distortion.

  • @throttlehold9092
    @throttlehold9092 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    That is a great update for us helicopter pilots! I'll wait for the official update though rather than trying out a beta version of it, but it is good to see this issue has been addressed. Thanks for sharing!

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hi! For people who use lots of third-party add-ons, there might be some benefit in waiting for the various developers to make their products compatible. Exciting times! 😀

    • @RotorReality247
      @RotorReality247 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@matthew-lets-fly Any idea what addons are affected? I have all 3rd party helos in community folder, hpg addons for "Random and everywhere" and scenery packages. I'm probably better off waiting.
      Any idea for the expected update official release?

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@RotorReality247 For me, in Steam, it's very easy to switch between Beta and the main stream - the only cost is the 900Mb download, and I believe your cache is wiped so everything will need to stream again. I imagine the load on third-party developers is quite high right now - porting existing content so it works in 2024, developing new content for 2024, and also adapting to new things that emerge in the sim updates. If you're unsure about your add-ons working in the sim update beta, then you wouldn't necessarily count on those being rapidly updated right now! I don't know what the timetable is for the official release of Sim Update 1 - but I notice they have four SUs on the roadmap for 2025 so I guess that's one per quarter. They'll also be launching the Marketplace when SU1 goes live, so there's lots going on! But also lots to get right. We shall see! 😀😀

    • @RotorReality247
      @RotorReality247 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@matthew-lets-fly Probably play it safe and I'll wait. I'm off the MS store anyways.

  • @olifjc
    @olifjc 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    So glad to see the Helipad bug being fixed in this update, the experience of flying helicopters in the sim is so much nicer now

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I totally agree!! It's almost like having a whole new sim again! Thanks for your comment. 😀

    • @robertrose7645
      @robertrose7645 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      so does this help the agriculture missions? i don't understand how people were able to land on the truck. no matter how i approached as soon as the rotor got close it was 100% ground effect.

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ Someone else commented that the physics are improved around the truck, but there may still be room for improvement. Speaking for myself, I STILL have not qualified for agriculture missions! I guess I've been having too much fun making videos and engaging with other heli-simmers! 😂😂 I'll get there soon!

    • @grayareas7008
      @grayareas7008 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I had convinced myself that was realistic and I just need to drop the collective to time it. Good thing I'm not in a real helicopter- I got alright at it

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ hahaha that is brilliant! Helicopters are hard but they’re not supposed to be THAT hard!! 😂😂 happy landings!

  • @ChokDK-bryllupsmusik-duo
    @ChokDK-bryllupsmusik-duo 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    GREAT with some helicopter info about the Sim1 update! Had to search a lot for that.
    Oooh and eehmm what is the info screen you're using at 3:00 ? Thanks in advance!!

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hi! I'm so happy to hear that the video has been useful for you. I trust you subscribed to get more heli-simming news, tips and reviews! 😂😂 The 'Input Viewer' is great for virtual helicopter pilots. The link is in the description. Hope that helps!

  • @MDFire150
    @MDFire150 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I hope to jump into the beta soon, and seeing how landing on the spray-truck in Career Mode has hopefully improved.......

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MDFire150 I wish I could report how the spray truck landings have improved. But I still haven’t qualified! Soon! 😂

  • @ArtificialExperience
    @ArtificialExperience 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It’s going to be an amazing sim when they get the bugs squashed. Would love to see them implement realistic damage to an aircraft and military weapons? Oh yea!

  • @alexmercer7687
    @alexmercer7687 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I jumped into SU1 beta, Performance seems improved and it runs smoother

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s good to hear! I didn’t notice any performance problems. So it seems things are going well in that area.

  • @ToHoverDivine
    @ToHoverDivine 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The CFD dropout and the resulting yaw effect we all know has been fixed. However, the ground effect is still not right!
    It is now applied to the nearest structure below the rotor disc as if the structure was a wide open flat plane. There is no asymmetry possible. The “Needles” landing as well as other big helipads work fine because if you approach correctly there is only little room for asymmetric airflow. If you approach the pad on level you will experience a sudden symmetric push upwards when the rotor disc starts to overlap the landing area. This may be a limitation of the sim physics but it leads to wrong behavior with small pads like the spray truck. So I call it still bugged.

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hi! And thanks for posting your detailed analysis. This is really interesting! What would be your expectation for realistic behaviour? I assume, instead of the whole disc lifting symmetrically as you pass forwards over the edge of the elevated pad, you would expect the nose to pitch up?

    • @ToHoverDivine
      @ToHoverDivine วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ Not sure what happened here. I posted a comment days ago with links and all, but it is not here. Just my like.
      Anyway, I tested quite a bit on MSFS 2024 and a bit of 2020 and Xplane 12. If you just go HIGE straight off the pad, MSFS 2024 seems to wait for the entire rotor disc (RD) to get off the pad before the CFD registers a symmetrical downstream in quasi-HOGE, meaning you get over the edge completely and only then the helicopter starts to descend. In 2020 and XP12 the lift is reduced gradually. On the halfway point its really either keep doing it until the tail strikes the pad or safe it by adding collective. By logic this happens because the downwash hits less and less pad and the GE air cushion gets smaller and smaller reducing the HIGE to a HOGE situation.
      I expected a nose down tendency as well, would make sense because a RL pilot shared his experience that you feel a bit of resistance when approaching the pad on a shallow angle (I’d assume because you first have to fight the forming air cushion on the pad that is inducing a pitch-up attitude, so you give cyclic forward to compensate) but I felt none in MSFS 2020 and couldn’t tell in XP12.
      I made a post about all of my tldr in the MSFS forum. Maybe my link prevented my previous answer, so if you are interested, search for “SU1 Beta ground effect is still wrong”. It is now bug-logged by the admins. You can also find a video there or on my channel (only have the one atm). It shows what happenes according to the CFD in playback: air is hitting an invisible ground when right at the edge, thus the lift stays constant. But this just makes no sense. And: this also explains the uneasiness above the refill truck in career mode. The GE just jumps from general surface level to the slightly higher elevation on the pad, applies full GE there, the flight model has to react so it pushes you upwards out of proportion. This upsets a steady approach and you start to correct, where much less inputs would happen in real life.
      Last weekend I tried to just ignore what I found and live with it. And yes, if you do that and just compensate for all the slightly weird stuff the Asobo H125 does, you can have an awesome experience! I quite enjoyed the last flights. But it is not fixed yet -or as I see it: it is not developed to reflect real life yet. The devs need to improve the native helicopter system quite a bit to be able to even match what XP12 and the better DCS sims can do.
      But this will take time and possibly some 3rd party helicopter will achieve that more quickly with external modeling. At least this was true for A2A, COWS and Fenix and their respective planes afaik…

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ Wow, brilliant analysis. I applaud you! The most important thing is that you have logged a bug. Let's hope it gets some attention soon! 👍👍😀

  • @primitiveundgrd5774
    @primitiveundgrd5774 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Where is the helipad located at the start of the video? that looks beautiful !

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Hi! It’s in the video description. It’s the NZA scenery for Milford Region which I got from Orbx. I was thinking of doing a whole alpine adventure video but all that survived was that one helipad landing. 😂

  • @andresvalencia-motorsportn7324
    @andresvalencia-motorsportn7324 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ive noticed that on console during SU1 the CH47 now doesnt work (it doesnt take any input at all from the controller) and the H225 still doesnt work almost the same issue that the CH47 has, in the case of the H225 is that there is no throttle imput from the controller. Other than that the rest of the helos are working

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sorry to hear of those problems. I'm using the Steam version on PC. For me, in Sim Update 1 Beta, the CH47 and H225 are still controllable with my existing control setup. I did, however, notice that both of these aircraft have been reassigned from 'Helicopter' to 'Airplane'. This is obviously wrong, and I imagine they will fix it soon. In the meantime, I suggest that you open your control settings for the CH47 and H225 and check that everything is still connected properly there.

  • @MagnusThornberg
    @MagnusThornberg 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Finally! 🙏 I can’t believe it took this long to fix. How on earth did they miss this from the start?
    Now you can enjoy roof hopping and oil rig landings. I can even resume my helicopter career mode and try landing on the tiny agricultural fueling truck. The combination of the ground effect bug and the landing pad being too small made it too hard to play for me.
    I’ll opt into the beta on my Xbox and give it a try after the weekend. 🙏✌️

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi! I too am so glad it's finally fixed. Who knows? Maybe they had many other crazy problems that needed fixing before the launch? I haven't tried the agricultural helicopter missions yet - it sounds suitably challenging! 😀 I hope you'll enjoy the new physics!

    • @MagnusThornberg
      @MagnusThornberg 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ stay away from the career a bit longer. Search and rescue is still broken if they didn’t fixed it in this beta!?
      The career mode will be fun in time after all bug fixes🙏
      Thanks for all great videos 🙏

  • @ImpendingJoker
    @ImpendingJoker 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I won't be happy with the default R-66 until they fix the main rotor animation.

  • @circusman8
    @circusman8 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ah, now we’re talking! I’ve just managed to execute two perfect landings on oil rigs, so my previous attempts really were the sim and not me😂 I guess it was all good practice. Looking forward to seeing what else has changed in the beta.

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Suddenly, for helicopter fans, it feels like the sim is so much bigger! I'll try some oil rig landings today. 😀😀

    • @circusman8
      @circusman8 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ I think the oil rigs are one of my favourite aspects of MSFS 2024, the modelling is amazing. You might want to try OL673, it’s moored on an inland Scottish loch that was once a deep water anchorage for the Royal Navy and is now used to maintain oil rigs. In real life and indeed MSFS, it’s quite the contrast between a sleepy Scottish village and huge rigs!

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@circusman8 Awesome! Thanks so much for that recommendation. I just took the H125 for a quick trip from OL673 and had a look at the other rig further out in the inlet, before coming back to land on OL673 again. I agree - the level of detail on the rigs is amazing. I assume they are procedurally generated? And I noticed the Stena Spey portrayal seemed reasonably accurate when comparing with real-life photos. Amazing!

    • @circusman8
      @circusman8 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@matthew-lets-fly I seem to remember Jorge getting very excited about oil rigs on one of the pre-release discussions! It certainly looks like a lot detail on a small structure. The World Photographer Oil Rig challenge takes you on a nice trip around some of the more amazing ones!

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ it's really great that the simulator supports a variety of interesting experiences like this!

  • @unclealig
    @unclealig 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Whats the indicator on the top right corner @4:30 ?

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hi! That's 'Input Viewer' - there's a link in the video description.

    • @unclealig
      @unclealig 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@matthew-lets-fly THX. But seems to be offline

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@unclealig Oops sorry! That link is now fixed. Please try again.

    • @unclealig
      @unclealig 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@matthew-lets-flythanks. Could have searched on flightsim to for myself, but thought its down amd unavail.

  • @JadeConron
    @JadeConron 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Im on series s and im getting heavy rotor wash ground effect on any landing pad. There something to do with the flight model?

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Interesting! To help me better understand this... You've updated to the Sim Update 1 public beta? And when you say you're getting a heavy rotor wash ground effect on any landing pad, are you talking about a visual effect? Or something about the way the helicopter is behaving in flight?

  • @joostvanh1217
    @joostvanh1217 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    In the r66 spray mission i did, it still asked me to apply thr parking break at the end. Wasn't able to finish the mission.

    • @LoganVass3
      @LoganVass3 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Same, it is disappointing.

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'm sorry to hear that! I haven't had a chance to test spray missions yet (because I haven't qualified! 😂). Just to be clear... did it ask you to apply "rotor brake", using ctrl+/ ?

    • @joostvanh1217
      @joostvanh1217 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @matthew-lets-fly no, it asked me to apply the parking break via control space... In the r66... with skids.

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ yeah, that's disappointing to hear, especially because it's been fixed elsewhere! Maybe they can still get it done for SU1 official release? Also, I wonder if ctrl+/ will allow you to finish the mission, even when it's asking for ctrl+space.

  • @jays3216
    @jays3216 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Well, Quantas jets in the car park could be sorted I suppose .. these weird bugs always make me giggle.

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ha! I'm glad you enjoyed spotting the Qantas jet but I have a SHOCKING revelation for you! It's 100% accurate!! 😂😂 It's the handcrafted Wollongong/Shellharbour airport in every edition of MSFS 2024, and it includes the aviation museum and some of their collection, biggest of which is that 747. Cool huh? 😎

    • @jamieh8240
      @jamieh8240 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Or when you are taxing to your parking spot and some idiot in a vehicle races in and takes it from you.

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ 😂😂😂😂 That was an actual occurrence at Saba during my landing tips video!

  • @mattyiow
    @mattyiow 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Attempting to land at the Needles was one of the first things I tried while trying to get to grips with heli flying in 2024. They’re local to me and weren’t rendered in 2020. I couldn’t work out why I kept bouncing off the helipad!

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What a spectacular spot! What do you think of the 2024 scenery for the area? I hope you'll enjoy many happy landings now that they've addressed that bug. 😀😀

    • @mattyiow
      @mattyiow 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@matthew-lets-flyAs with most scenery for MSFS 2024, I’m very happy with it but there are some immersion killers like missing sea piers and submerged jetties/boats etc. Whilst it great to finally have the Needles lighthouse, it does tend to hide and then magically pop into view when I’m almost on top of it! Pretty funny really.

  • @caribbaviator7058
    @caribbaviator7058 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think I’m going to wait for su2 to even consider upgrading from 2020.

    • @tomas5577
      @tomas5577 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah, me too, maybe even longer. In the meantime it would be nice if the Needles helipad was fixed in 2020🤞🤞

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Whereas I haven't touched 2020 since the day 2024 released. 😂 As they have four Sim Updates on the roadmap for this year, I imagine we'll have access to Sim Update 2 sometime around April to May? That'll be a busy time for third-party developers for sure!

  • @bluelights85
    @bluelights85 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Has the helicopter trim issue been fixed?

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi! Could you please tell me what the trim issue is? Then I hope I can advise you correctly! ☺

    • @bluelights85
      @bluelights85 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @matthew-lets-fly it's well documented in the forums - after a few minutes flying in the helicopters in 2024, the trim ends up so far to one side laterally that you have to put full deflection of the controls. A quick fix was to keep hitting the 'quick trim' button.
      Is this bug fixed now?

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @bluelights85 I'm sorry to say that I have never encountered this bug. I did however notice that, when I had my hat switch assigned to both trim functions and external view functions, that adjusting the external view would also add unwanted trim inputs! May I suggest you look at your control settings and check that your button(s) for rotor trim are not feeding any other control destination?

  • @unotoli
    @unotoli 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice update and report thanks!
    Why the score number in millions?
    Why mirror is disabled?
    Beta is not an English beeeta word ;)

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Maybe I should give it a Greek pronunciation next time? "Veeta" I think?!
      I don't know why the maximum score in landing challenges is 2,000,000. Unfortunately, they don't currently offer us a breakdown of our scoring.
      Also, unfortunately, MSFS 2020 and 2024 do not yet offer realistic mirror functionality. That is something that would be super-helpful for cargo missions!

  • @thomas_ger4098
    @thomas_ger4098 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I jumped into Simupdate 1 but rolled back because AutoFPS did not work anymore….and the loading also took waaaaay longer than before.

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sorry to hear it wasn’t so smooth for you. I assume AutoFPS would be updated later to work with updated sim. I think the sim update builds a new cache or something because all my aircraft and scenery had to stream again. After I used each item, the loading time was normal again.

    • @thomas_ger4098
      @thomas_ger4098 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think I will give it another try. In the current state of the simulator, I assume it might make sense to be in the beta version in order to get also some fixes that we are waiting for earlier.
      I was a little bit, disappointed to see the roadmap that showed that especially the VR issues are planned for the sim update 2. Hoping to see the fixes earlier in the Beta version.

    • @ArcanePath360
      @ArcanePath360 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Damn. The loading times are the reason I hardly play it right now. I just don't have time to sit and wait 10 minutes to have 30 minutes of play time. Glad I didn't get it on Steam as it would take even longer since that has an update every 10 seconds

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ArcanePath360 so sorry to hear of what I assume are problems with your connectivity? MSFS 2024 is performing really nicely for me (100mb download speed).

    • @ArcanePath360
      @ArcanePath360 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@matthew-lets-fly on on Fibre 150 and it only made a mild difference to when I was on 30. The game main screen just takes forever to get into after waiting about 25 seconds before it even enters the initial startup

  • @helicopterovirtual-msfs6254
    @helicopterovirtual-msfs6254 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Excelente.

  • @ArcanePath360
    @ArcanePath360 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The public beta has been open since day one. That's what we've all unofficially been on, they just didn't announce it as such

    • @lioneljacquet7944
      @lioneljacquet7944 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's why we need to address our demands in the MSFS 2024 forum. Let's be pragmatic and useful.

    • @ArcanePath360
      @ArcanePath360 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lioneljacquet7944 We do. And it takes months to fix a silly bug such as the windshield effects defaulting to medium in the settings even after they said they fixed it, and having to hack the config file and do it yourself so you can see rain on the windshield.

    • @lioneljacquet7944
      @lioneljacquet7944 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ArcanePath360 It's the best we can do to pass on as much of our experience as possible to the developers, so we'll just have to be patient. Have a good day.

  • @titlow1
    @titlow1 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How the heck does Wollongong look so good for you. You could almost tell what cars a parked in people's driveways.. is that a add on or ms20 ? Haha

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I was wondering when someone would ask about it, or recognise it. The scenery is straight out of the box, default MSFS 2024. 🙂

    • @titlow1
      @titlow1 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @matthew-lets-fly absolutely amazing.. I'm guessing you run it on high end computer not xbox lol

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@titlow1 I put the specs are in the description. The video card is less than a year old, but everything else is now over two years. For me, 2024 is running much better than 2020!

  • @ritchip
    @ritchip 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    👍👍💯👍👍💯👍👍👀

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🪇🪇🥁🥁🪇🪇👍👍

  • @stevejones924
    @stevejones924 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Update beta bug fixes after...it releases!? Unreal when ya think about it!😮

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi! There are four MSFS 2024 sim updates in the roadmap for this year. MSFS 2020 has been continually updated since launch. I’m glad bugs and requests are being addressed. 🙂

    • @matthew-lets-fly
      @matthew-lets-fly  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi! There are four MSFS 2024 sim updates in the roadmap for this year. MSFS 2020 has been continually updated since launch. I’m glad bugs and requests are being addressed. 🙂