Top 10 Greatest USA Players of All Time
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- My rankings and breakdown of the Top 10 Greatest USA Players in Olympic history.
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Who’s your top 2??
NOTE: This list is SPECIFICALLY about the Olympic portion of USA Basketball.
Carmelo Anthony & KD.
Michael Jordan
Sir Charles, for what he did in 92 (Best USA player) and 96
Kd/Kobe
Jordan and Melo.
Durant is like a WWE villian in the NBA who turns into the good guy for a brief moment to rep his country, then turns bad again.
Legitimately the case for that gold medal three years ago too 🤣🤣🤣🤣 cause KD was loved for like three days and then boom, "He still a snake" 😭😭😭
He’s basically The Miz 😂
Well, he is the villain for every other country. He plays for the best basketball nation in the world. And if any county manages to make a great underdog run to threaten US dominance, he makes sure that it doesn't happen. 😂😂
*cues music* "I am a real American.."
Actually, it is not he who changes his personality, but the public that changes its opinion following the manipulations of the media.
19.8 PPG, nobody could stop this man from getting buckets...
Fiba games are way harder to score as you can see from everyone’s stats
@@Christzo18 nah not really everyone stats are down because there playing wit other all stars and there’s only one ball
International bball is very defensively oriented. Average Euroleague top scorer is usually about 17-18 PPG. All time record is 26 PPG.
They are playing with less min per game, and it has only 10 mins per quarter plus he is playing with other stars.
The game is 8 mins shorter and the pace is much slower!
Charles better be in this, people who saw him play know he was a monster sometimes looking like the best player in world
I was gonna say the same thing. During the 92 dream team he was consistently the best player on that
yup, top 6
And he was the best player in the 96 Olympics all while doing crazy stuffs. Crazy, right
Why wouldn't he be? Isn't it well known that Chuck performed particularly well during the Olympics?
I agree. I d have Barkley #1,Jordan #2. Durant #3,& Kobe at #4. Barkley dominated on the dream team. I saw almost every game. He played out of his mind. #10 is totally wrong. The Knicks center should loose at least half his points. He traveled on at least half the time he scored. Go back and watch tape. I think he took 4 steps on a quarter of his scoring.
Very cool list, and I like how the consistent greatness of Carmelo in the Olympics helps to validate his future induction into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame.
I wanted him to get another gold medal.
His ten all star selections would do that already
@@bolt7047 Fair enough; I just know that when other sports TH-camrs talk about players like Carmelo who had somewhat "underwhelming" or "overrated" careers in their eyes, they oftentimes forget their significance as a player in college and/or outside of the NBA, as these things help to increase the overall impact a type of player can have like that on the game of basketball, which is of ultimate importance seeing the hall of fame for basketball is not entirely focused on one's career in the NBA. My point is that Carmelo has had a somewhat underwhelming career in the NBA compared to his fellow peers, but like Bill Walton & his dominance at UCLA and/or Manu Ginobli & his renowned success overseas for Argentina, Carmelo's Olympic and collegiate greatness are for the betterment of Carmelo's legacy as a whole.
@@jarrynorme801Melo in college plus Olympics is nowhere near Walton college or Manu Olympics lol.
Stop coping dude. He's just not good enough and it's his fault
@@jarrynorme801if tmac is in the hof Melo and Rose are too
Man, I love how Jonny finds OPEN-MINDED ways to give legends the recognition they deserve and that he does it in the department most of us, NBA fans, forget many key players and legendary performances over the years, especially guys who aren't from the US, such as me because I am from Europe. Great job as always.
Though, I would prefer it if Chuck was a bit higher on the list, since his volume and efficiency as a scorer was something that's never happened before or since in basketball, at any competition or level.
Also, for any NBA fan watching who didn't watch USA in the Olympics, it's pretty damn difficult to score 15-20 points in a FIBA game, nevermind average it, so don't ask why all those guys are praised for their efforts so much( Jordan, Barkley, KD...)
Yeah legends never get credit lmao
Some of them get way less than they deserve
Nice to see KD getting some love, sure we may not like everything he does but he is still a phenomenal scorer.
He is probably the best mid range shooter ever. If he was not on social media as much and just ignored the hate he got for leaving OKC for the Warriors he would be way more appreciated.
If ring culture didn't exist, KD would be top 5 all time.
@@bolt7047 Yeah even though I wasn't a fan of his move even I felt he at times allowed fans and the media to get to him. His takes on Basketball are also very good and quite balanced.
@@Washyourbellybuttoni’m the biggest KD fan but imo he’s not making the top 5 unless you make scoring 75% of the grading.
he’s the best “2nd best in the world” ever though
@@frankincensemerchant1284 I agree he has a incredibly high basketball IQ. He could easily be a front office member/Coach when he retires.
I would probably put Barkley a bit further up the list, but either way, a very interesting video and I learned a lot, as usual :).
KD is a wildly inconsistent individual, but I wholeheartedly agree on him not only as the best ever US Olympic performer; but the best international play performer for Team USA. I still remember how he absolutely destroyed everyone in the 2010 FIBA world cup. He had announcers in other languages losing their freakin' minds!
Lmao calling KD wildly inconsistent is crazy🤯💀
Oh ya MVP of the tournament
I don't know how you have soo many ideas what to upload. Congratulations, you definitely never dissapoints...
good list. I'd put Barkley higher, he was an absolute menace.
KD scored more, defended better, had more success, more longevity and went against better comp, which is probably similar to his actual nba case for being over Barkley, there's no way to put him over KD other than maybe u valuing your eye test as well peak performance
As a Serb, raised on Yugo basketball I have to say the US top 10 standard is crazy high. Other countries are lucky to ever win one, and the lowest guy on this list has a double gold.
US audience don't realize how hard that is. Yugoslavia (and then Serbia) despite winning 5 FIBA golds only has one Olympic gold. And all those guys are legends in former Yugo...like even assistant coaches. Serbia got a silver in Rio and that was an epic accomplishment.
Countries like Canada or Italy never came close. Brazil even. This is all just next level it's hard to grasp for an American. If a mid size country like Poland won a bronze there would be week long parties and the squad would be immortalized domestically.
Just want to give perspective.
Very interesting perspective. I think that as Americans we’ve normalized Team USA dominating in basketball. You opened my eyes. This was a great comment.
You're not wrong but at the same time we invented the sport so we expect to be good. Getting beaten at your own game is embarrassing for us. That's why there was such a shitstorm when we only got the bronze in 2004. Bronze was the worst performance we've ever had.
@@TeeEss700 I know because I lived and played on both sides.
This is fact. Greece won a Euro in 2005 and those guys on that team wouldn't have a problem getting a heart transplant if God forbid they needed one. There would honestly be donors lining up.
That's for an Euro gold. In America you might have crossed paths with an Olympic gold medal winner and the thought never crossed your mind.
Outside of the US if you have the privilege to ever see, let alone speak to an gold medal winner it would be something you talk about and get beers for from mind blown people the rest of your life.
No joke. Like if I ever met coach K that would be my best story. I've seen some things, but that would be what impressed people most.
And vice versa, if I was at a bar and someone had an Melo or coach K story I'd buy him a beer. My day would be made just meeting someone who had a moment with an great.
People here eat basketball, and we're good at it, but no one even questions the US supremacy. Countries would make idols of players where you might just go "meh, number 9".
Number 9 in Serbia (or anywhere) gets more props than you guys give. 30 years from now Serbs will remember 1996 and 2018 silvers. Those guys are immortal.
Your worst performance is better than Germany's best (outside 1936). It's just crazy.
@@whenisdinner2137
True, but even that is special. England invented football and only has one WC (Olympics don't matter in football) and they're lucky to get to the semi's ever since.
You might snirk at it but they also (probably, or US or France) invented water polo and handball and volleyball, and those medals aren't with the inventor countries either.
Just saying that inventing isn't a given road to success.
In the early 2000s many people thought that the day came when US domination days are over and we all couldn't be more wrong.
@@TeeEss700well that would be the case. Its because basketball is a canadian-american made sport. Its their sport and they should dominate.
I figured it would be KD. Totally deserved, especially after that terrible start for team USA in 2020.
We need breakdowns of each Olympic team. That '04 team would have been incredible if everyone hadn't have dropped out
04 team was hastily assembled. Coach also didn't let the rookies play and relied heavily on his starters. If it was coached differently and at least had a month of practice, easy gold medal for them.
@nicksamp515 Larry brown was a terrible choice for that job. Probably played a big role in why Kobe, Shaq, Kidd, KG, T-Mac, Jermaine, etc all said nah
@@jasonpierce2024 Larry Brown may be one of the most overrated coaches of all-time.
@@jasonpierce2024 his love for A.I was at it's peak during those times
Glad to see KD and Melo get their props. They were lethal in the Olympics, even more lethal than they were in the NBA.
I absolutely agree with this list. 100%
Great to see kd gets the respect he deserves
I think the FIBA games should’ve been included as well. But this is a great list. Keep up the good work Jonny!!!
KD's first place is even more definitive if you include his FIBA achievements.
Part 2 but with FIBA games 👀
Kevin Durant kept us from being embarrassed in Tokyo single-handedly, and I doubt anybody who watched the gold medal game against France would say they saw anything different. If he didn't cause Rudy Gobert to foul out, USA would have gotten silver. My father and I watched that game happen live, and all my GSW Durant hate washed away as I rooted for him to win gold for the United States of America.
Happy Independence Day, everybody. Let's all focus on what's really important: helping each other like a team.
You are absolutely correct. I felt the same way about Kobe Bryant in 2008. Was never the biggest Kobe fan(nothing personal, just didn't like the Lakers). I found myself jumping up and down rooting for Kobe and Wade in the 4th. After that, Kobe became one of my favorites.
Lowkey tho the most impressive players on that squad was: KD, Draymond, and Jrue.
Fun fact: Kobe has a 36-0 record while playing for the USA team in all FIBA and Olympic games tournaments
If I remember correctly Jason Kidd is like 42-0😂
Great work in your videos, thanks from 🇵🇹
On my work lunch break so this video is perfect right now
Helped me respect KD more. Very nice.
I agree with this list 100% wow
kobe 44%FG ????? lebronze ???? really???
@@onlyfacts3178 Kobe was clearly the leader of that team and was the main reason why they were dominant in that 08 Olympics, Kobe also was there best defender and closer for that team.
You talk about his shooting but his coach told him he wasn't agreesive enough. He had no flaws
@@randomperson2540 yes he was and???? the main reason ??? you are talking about one game..typical from AMERICANS...
HE Had no FLAWS??? well bad shoot selection ball hog...those 2 are huge flaws...
@@randomperson2540 1st game against china he didnt play well
2nd game he was even worse shooting a mediocre 30% .
HE ONLY played well 3 games of the 8...
@@onlyfacts3178 you say ball hod but he damn near lead the team in assists, kobe for multiple games was there closer not just in Spain.
And obviously players have flaws but as far as negatives on the court had had none, his coach literally told him to shot more, If anything he needed to be more aggressive
Such a great idea 👏
Durant also won a gold medal at the 2010 FIBA world championships. That roster had an older lamar and billups, but it most mostly full of young players. The team was literally nicknamed "The B Team" because of their lack of star presence.
True but I think one only focused on the Olympics alone rather than including the FIBA championships.
@@daevonthesavage7483 yea fair.
I think when it comes to all-time ranking, I think people forget to include international play. Durant won MVP of the tournament and his former teammate Stephen Curry was on this team as well and this is two teams where Durant has won MVP honours over Curry. I'm not saying Durant is better, but I do think Durant gets slighted on the all-time ranking by a few.
For sustained play among many Olympics- Durant and Melo
For balling out on a shorter sample size- Barkley and Kobe.
Your videos are great! Next do a top 10 or 20 of greatest basketball players ever, not just NBA, to include the ABA, college and Olympics.
And street basketball. Park Street legends for example the rucker in NY
Barkley should be higher on this list.. Those shooting splits are bananas and to be the top scorer on the Dream team makes him top 3 IMO
Awesome video. My first guess as the #1 player was Carmelo Anthony. It's refreshing to see KD in the #1 spot.
Thank you Jonny, Happy 4th of July!
Yessssss new Jonny Arnett video!! Totally brightens up my afternoon.
Yeah 2020 definitely solidified that Kd is the greatest Olympian we’ve ever had. The rest of the world was catching up to us and he put that team on his back every close game
The way Michael Jordan owned the world in 92 will never be reproduced. He is the greatest basketball player and olympian.
@@kleatise52 the world wasn’t close to us at that time. Kd is the best Olympian, it’s okay to not have Jordan first at something
@@larrylegend545 the world has only gotten closer because of his influence..making it more popular. It’s okay to respect the people that made the game what it is.
@@kleatise52 thank you for explaining making my point even further
He killed all the doubt that year about usa not winning gold or any medals at all
Amazing idea and video. Need to show more appreciation to this side of basketball
Good list. Nice job. Thank you.
Great video! Fun fact, Scottie Pippen is the only player in history to win an NBA title and a gold medal in the same year twice.
😂 laughing in Jordan’s last dance
Amazing list 💯
This is why Durant is one of the best players of all-time anytime he is in a good situation he shines
Great video
Awesome video & Happy 4th, Jonny!
Oh yeah, great idea for video! Thank you, I learn a lot.
Great video idea
great video
KD don’t get enough love for what he did with team USA
man lost to nigeria with superstars in his prime lol
@@BIGJERSEY908What medal did the nigerians end up with?
The team was a bit dysfunctional and still came through with gold
I just remember Shaq being absolutely unstoppable in international play. It wasnt even fair. Plus, Vince Carter should get at least an honorable mention for the sickest dunk of all time in 2000.
I thought Shaq could possibly squeeze into this list. But this is a good list.
I thought that Sir Charles would've ended with a top 3 finish off rip. I guessed KD would be the #1 for his accomplishments and finishes.
EDIT: Nice list. I did guess right. Brilliant idea for a vid, especially on the 4th. Happy 4th to you and yours!
Terrific investigation!
great vid
I love your videos
Durant should wear his Team USA jersey under his Suns/whatever team he weasels to next, because Olympics KD is gold! 🥇
😂, whatever team.
Decent list but hot take... Kobe #1 by far, his stats may not look the best but his impact on team USA is unmatched
Lol
Before watching the video if it was Durant it would be criminal.
This list works, happy America day people of the USA!
I think Barkley deserves a top 3 spot.
I was about to whine about Jordan being #2 but then I finished the video. Durant clearly deserves the #1 spot based on his performance.
Why were u about to Whine like a bitch when Jordan don’t even deserve the #2 spot let alone 1…..
Could you do a top 10 non-USA players in olympic basketball history?
Awesome list! Agreed on just about every account.
How about a top 15 All Star Game players of all time?
Great idea for a July 4th video!
KD is truly the Olympic Goat
Almost everyone on the list has been a part of the 2 best USA teams in history. The Dream team and the Redeem team. Ironically, the GOAT Olympic baller, Durant hasn't been a part of any of those two (2012 doesn't count).
Exactly how i would of ranked it! Good list.
It is a great pity that Isiah Thomas was not selected for Dream Team I (1992 Olympiad).
He was also a very strong NBA player.
He definitely met the criteria to be selected
The NBA's all time assist and steal leader John Stockton has been selected instead of Isiah. Thats fair, because he suits the "greatest team ever" narrative better, and also Stockton is more important piece of the basketball history so its only reasonable him being there
@@safaemre6807 how the hell is stockton "more important" to the history of basketball than the guy that lead his team to TWO championships during the Lakers and Celtics dominance?
@@xedyir_oZZ Isiah Thomas won the Finals MVP award in first Detroit championship, Dumars won in the second if i am not mistaken. And yes being first by far in the 2 of the 5 major statistics of the game is much more value than 1 Finals MVP trophy. The way to approaching the game just by the ring count is not just wrong its also very unfair to most legends
Even if we think Jordan would still have come (which is a very big if), his selection would have hurt the team's chemistry and image a little bit. They obviously still would have crushed competition but I like the Dream Team the way it was. They needed guys like Stockton Drexler Mullin or even Robinson for their lesser ego and team-first mentality.
So glad to see Carmelo on here. He’s one of the first players that comes to mind in us basketball.
If Chuck shot like that in the NBA he'd probably have 2 rings
Hey Johnny , it seems like a very hard complicated video to make as a top ten nba ranking is hard enough. but is possible you could do a top ten ranking of the greatest basketball players of all time including collegiate achievements, highschool achievements, overseas ect. could be an interesting video showcasing certain players impact on the sport of basketball as a whole, and not just the nba.
Happy Independence day Jonny.
7:19 look at that block, like a man playing with boys
Pretty good list
Olympic Melo is a walking bucket 🎯
1. "The Admiral" David Robinson - 2-time Olympic gold + 1 Olympic bronze medalist & 1986 FIBA World Championship gold medalist.
2. Michael Jordan - 2-time Olympic gold medalist = THE international face of basketball and still is.
3. Charles Barkley - 2-time Olympic gold medalist + 2-time OG tournament stats leader.
4. Kevin Durant - 3-time Olympic gold medalist & 2010 FIBA World Championship gold medalist
5. Carmelo Anthony - 3-time Olympic gold medalist + 1 Olympic bronze medalist & 2006 FIBA World Championship bronze medalist¨
6. Shaquille O'neal - Olympic gold medalist & 1994 FIBA World Championship gold medalist (including WC MVP)
7. Kobe Bryant - 2-time Olympic gold medalist.
8. Patrick Ewing - 2-time Olympic gold medalist
9. Scottie Pippen - 2-time Olympic gold medalist
10. Karl Malone & John Stockton - 2-time Olympic gold medalist = They where whereever they went the dynamic duo from the Jazz, to the All-Stars to the Olympics.
Gotta make room on that thumbnail for Sir Charles and Melo
Jonny I would love to see you expand your videos to the history of basketball outside the NBA. You're by far the most enjoyable and, I believe, impartial TH-cam creator for basketball, so I'm interested in your take on other players, who didn't end up in the NBA.
I'm especially interested in your analysis of Nick Galis, who dominated Europe offensively in the 80s. I would argue that he's in the same ballpark as MJ as far as scoring (NOT defense!) is considered, given that he was/still is by far the top scorer in basically every competition he's ever participated, even when all the opposing defense was focused on him; and him being a 6 foot SG scoring mostly by penetrating.
That's my little wish, thanks for your efforts anyway! Cheers!
Bro Nick Galis and Arvydas sabonis monsters of Europe
I wonder if Durant will play in the next Olympics?
Giving melo a shorter 3 pt line is some nasty stuff. Shoukd be banned by the geneva convention
Mj could also easily have been 3/3 if he would have gone in 1996 but he was to focused on winning the NBA championship since he didnt win it in 95 he could even have been the only player to go 4/4 if he would have played in 2020 but Mj is still 11-0 in overall finals. Mj just won every final he ever been to but because he "only" got those 2 Olympics titles I think KD is easily the number one guy on this list going 3/3
It's no surprise that Kevin Durant would be #1 on a team of nothing but all stars. 🌝😏
Huh??? Every US team was with all stars🤣🤣🤣🤣what's your point??? Kevin Durant won gold medal with worst supporting cast than any other US team. All US teams before had better roster at Olympics than KD's US team in 2020...
@@hristijandimitrovski8664 Just making a joke about him playing on the Warriors and bouncing around to play with other superstars lol
@@ronski4059 oh ok, my bad
Barkley should have been higher imo, but great list
I would only put Barkley one spot higher though. Lebron's the better overall player, but I think Barkley had a bit more impact in the Olympics
Great video 🔥
do a list with players from every country players like manu and yao can make the list
Oh yea happy independence day
Jonny, I don't know if you've read my comment on your all time ranking, but the greatest Olympic player of all time, Oscar Schmidt, is someone I'd really enjoy to see you talk about. He's the all time scoring leader in the olympics and in basketball.
Yeah! That’s a great idea. I would love to make a video about him at some point
If Kevin Durant ain't #1 on everyone's list then that means you must be looking at something completely different. The gold medal games speaks for itself and was the first Olympics basketball MVP when they started giving the award after they beat France
If only NBA Melo was as unselfish as Olympics Melo
He was
@@melvinhhcp3615He wasn't. I don't know the specific but he's the only player ever to have 60+points with 0 assists in one game lol. He is the definition of a ball hog. I love Melo but he isn't unselfish. But I also believe that the only thing allowing him to be unselfish is that he had a great supporting cast in the Olympics
@@melvinhhcp3615he was but late in his career.
Different game, rules and players bud. When you have superstars coming off the bench, you wouldn't mind sharing the ball with them more compared to an average bench player in the NBA.
Do a vid on detlef schrimpf
I always had his card as a kid, and he dont get no love. He walked so dirk could dunk
Happy 4th Johnny! 🇺🇸
Can you make a video of The 10 worst?
And the 10 Best on The world championships?
It's interesting how and why Americans decided that Olympic basketball is that much more important than the FIBA World Cup . The other traditionally successful nations of international basketball usually treat them as equally important tournaments that can both crown you as " the best in the world".
I clicked on this video hoping minutes played would be mentioned and I was not disappointed. The Olympics are great to watch because we get to see all our stars get their playing time in. Solid list, could have done without the A.I explanation in the intro but top 3 made up for it 😉. I hope Sir Charles watches this and starts replying to, "Chuck, I got 4 rings, Chuck" with "Two Gold Medals."
He is a blatant AI hater, he had to make sure his Iverson disclaimer was in there, dude is weird.
@@gangstagummybear3432 I will not stand for A.I hate.
Let’s gooo JA!!! Thanks!!!
Your 1 and 2 are fair but i would put barkley at number 3:great stats,2 gold medals and the best player on the best team ever assembald then i would put melo at 4 and it's a coin flip between lebron and kobe at 5
When is part 2 of the 150 questions coming out ?
wow finally someone giving KD the respect he deserves
First time I agree with the list all the way thur
Kevin Durant was also very good at *World Cup.* 🏆
feels great to be one of the first
I want to see a video on the 96' Dream Team.
That team was LOADED from top to bottom. Best overall Olympic team imo
Another reason why Jordan is the GOAT.. thanks Jonny ! 😄
He’s not #1 tho
@@michaellacoste8009Likely means that on top of 6 championships, DPOY, and whatever else, he also never lost a single Olympic game. A lot of people put stock in MJ never losing a finals series, so this would be similar.
@michaellacoste8009 yes he is, go cry somewhere else
The more super the team around Durant, the better he plays.
I think that's everybody. Good players on the same team make each other better. For one thing, the opposing team has to be a lot more careful double-teaming somebody if they know the other players are too dangerous to be left open.
might be a lot of work but can you do a list that is titled "international players" because we had the FIBA championship, Good Will Games, etc along with the Olympic Games. that would be interesting.......of course the list would be USA basketball players
Chuck I believe is top 4 right above Kobe. I'm a Kobe fan (I believe Jonny is too) and yes his impact was great, but Chuck absolutely dominated. Though I do think Chuck got his stats because the defenses were focused on the big 3 (MJ magic bird) yet, to be the best player on the most stacked team says a lot for me. But hey, Jonny makes the video and I'm a fan of his, so I'm cool with this list. ahaha
Have you ranked the USA teams yet? I know there was a lot of comparisons between the Dream and Redeem Team, but I think everyone sleeps on the 96 team. It would go:
Dream Team 1 (there's only ONE "Dream Team")
96 Team
Redeem Team
Excellent point. Hakeem, O'Neal and Robinson. Enough said.
I would probably go 2008 over 1992, because the ages of the players.
Larry Bird, for instance, was well past his prime.
In 2008 you had basically the then-MVP candidates on one squad: Kobe, LeBron, Dwight and Wade.
Absolutely insane squad. Only PG was a little week but it’s easy to forget Chris Paul (who didn’t start, Kidd did) was probably in his prime in his early 20s.
@@HorizonOfHope I respect that. I've just watched enough MJ to never bet against him. 92 MJ was PRIME PEAK Michael Jordan though, and when you surround him with defensive monsters like Ewing, Robinson and Pippen, and give him offensive weapons like Magic passing, Mullins and Bird spotting up and Barkley and Malone on the boards, it really doesn't matter what 2008 does, they're not scoring as many times the court as MJ is. As heralded as those 2008 players were, they were also young in their careers, so lack of experience is also going to be a factor.
Too bad we don't have time machines to actually witness things like this.
@@HorizonOfHope Even past the 1996 Dream Team?
Which had a healthy Grant Hill and Penny Hardaway to go along with John Stockton and Gary Payton.
Barkley and Pippen were there again. And of course the three headed monster featuring Olajuwon, Robinson and a young O'Neal.