they all sound deadly but the '70 super bass and the '71 super lead are magical to my ears! thanks again for providing a wide spectrum of Marshall tonage!
Fantastic, as always. And I love that there is some room sound, as that's what we'd hear live as players and I have no interest in recording sounds. What really strikes me here is the 68 12series and how astonishing it is that Eddie Van Halen took that classic rock sound and with his hands turned it entirely into something else.
The front end of these amps is incredibly sensitive to what you put into it. More than most other amps I've played. Minor nuances in pickup gain, woods, strings, all of that comes out in the tone you hear through these. Put a 2db clean boost in front, and you can easily take them into Eddie Van Halen territory. It's easy to see how a cranked 68, with all controls on 10, with an MXR EQ in front, boosting the mids just a bit, plus the Echoplex which added a little warmth and a little more gain, could easily get the gain structure he had. Then, you just need his fingers. :)
amazing amount of gear, technology, and history! Thanks for making quality videos and sharing all this amazing equipment! your playing is sweet to. era appropriate!
All sound amazing! Surprisingly similar, your friend hasn't held on to any bad ones ;) I like the clarity of the later amps. JTM50 no.1 was especially well balanced though. Cleanup and versatility for different styles would be great to hear. Thanks!
Johan...you are a crazy man my friend!! Thanks for these videos man,and I've been looking at all of them! A true labor of love,from a guy that has too much money and way to much free time! Peace.
Enjoying catching up with your videos after having no proper Internet access during long hospital visit and no phone. Collapsed on it and smashed it lol. Oh how we rely on tech. This video makes me want to make Marshall coloured noise. Not allowed yet according to doc. Boo. Hope alls good with you mate great video as ever.
John, you are a true prophet to the Church of Tone. Lol, Seriously, you are a youtube treasure for guitar players. Each amp sounds great. I'm sure via tweaking of tone controls or tubes you could get each fairly close sounding. I love em all, the fabric ripping crunch of the JTM to the thick sustain of the Super Bass. You do the classic rock tone: Free, Bad Company etc., very well. Would love to see another multi Marshall video to see which does a better Duane, Jimmy, and Jimi.
That 1969 Superbass is awesome. As you were plugged into the 2nd input I'm willing to bet its had the Randy Rhoads mod done to it so the two channels are cascaded. Sounded so snarly :)
You must have superior patience to put as much time as it must have taken to do a comparison like this. I commend you! The standouts for me were definitely the first '67 JTM50 Black Flag followed closely by the second '67 JTM50 Black Flag. I liked both the '69 and '68 Super Bass and '71 Lead 50w too. I didn't care for either the Super PA and surprisingly the '70 Super Bass.
It certainly has a particular tone and drives the amp harder than a PAF style. Doesn't stop me from loving and appreciating the great videos, though. : )
your face when you hit the PA and wider where the volume went. (i have one too). That white 50 for the win for me. I always said this was how to get a classic plexi hard rock sound, by using a hot pickup straight into one.
+Johan Segeborn That explains the heavier sound. Great vid as always. Watching your videos always makes me want to play. To try and get the best out of my old Marshall. Cheers
besides the super bass and pa models, they all sound pretty close give or take slight variations, some more than others but not huge make or break differences.
That was great Johan. What settings did you have them at? Noticed you wore headphones to protect your ears. There are definitely differences to the sound. How do you get the best out of them without blowing away the band?
Thanks! Basically all knobs on 8-10 but bass which was 0-3 depending on amp. I attenuated -8 and -12dB on 50 and 100 watters with a hotplate. That's basically the level that the Ribbon accepts. Cheers Johan
All sound good to me.What kind of speakers are you that cab? I'm curious to see how a early jtm 45 would sound, probably cleaner than the others. Good vid.cheers
Are those the 25 watt speakers? I want to see what a 50 watt plexi with kt66 and a tube rectifier would sound like but never had the chance to try to compare that with a 50 watt El 34 and solid state rectifier.
Haha! Well compared to the Pleximaster collection I have a small number of amps. But not a small enough number if you ask my significant other unfortunately
Again, great video (saw the second part of the shootout first), not much talking, more playing, very nice! Wondering whats the average volume on all these amps? Thanks!
Glad to hear it! The 100W are about 120dB cranked and the 50watters are about 117dB cranked with this cab and I knocked off -12dB for the 100w(hotplate) and -9dB for the 50W, so the volume was a bit under 108dB 1 meter from the speaker cabinet. Cheers
Hi!! They all sound amazing!! I want to build a replica myself with the 1966-1967 JTM45/100 style board and KT66. Cant find any over the internet. Do you have the diagrams for it? Thanks!!
each of these amps sound awesome. You really make very nice sound recordings as well, your ambient mic placement is always very nice to hear ! You are a very lucky man to own all these wonderfull amps, and you honor them by giving them their youth and primal attitude ! Anyway you sell one of these ? :) Cheers from France
Man, that JTM-45 and JTM-50..perfect crunch tone!! Johan what does the term super PA mean? I saw you play an excellent 1967 Super PA JTM-45 also, in a different video..great tones! So, does JTM-45 or JTM-50 mean 45 or 50 watts?
Holy s**t that "salvation" sounds so sweet :) what kind of wizardry is inside of the "salvation" and is it the doing of Pleximaster? A close second is the 1969 jmp50 In general i prefer the 50 watters :) smoother and more compression.
+Klaus bak - looking at the parts values of it on johans other vid shows it to have all standard plexi parts values, so the differences are down to perhaps component drift, the output tranformer, and the tubes in it at present (as Im sure all these amps did not have the exact same tubes in them). Different output transformers can make a big difference alone.
+Klaus bak The "Salvation plexi" is just the way I got it from the Salvation army, even same tubes! This one is the only amp that was featured in the first 15 amp shootout clip. This is my fave amp, it is required by to big guitar names for their recordings, Can´t tell who unfortunately. You have probably heard this amp on the radio... :) We will hopefully make another 15 Marshall clip this spring and include the Marshall Majors and Pig 200!
I might be asking a stupid question, but do you own all these amps? What’s amazing is they all have the same general character but each had their own unique voice. That PA 100 was awesome as well.
I jump the channels if the sound is too thin, but it takes away a lot of attack so I try to avoid it. The best way to achieve a punchy bass is to play loud :-) I'd like to demo the RR. When I come across one I will!
+Johan Segeborn I suppose thats the biggest killer with those old amps gotta turn em up!! But the compression and attack they get is fantastic! Ive got a 59 and had sounds guys ask me to turn it down when im on one!
Amazing !!! all amps sound great, your r9 bridge pickup looks awesome, is that a burstbucker with the cover off ? very cool playing and video as always Johan :-) BIG LIKE
Thanks Andrew, I had two mixes actually, one with more room sound and one with less room and thus more dynamics. The room is so important to the lower mids and the character of each amp so I chose the spatial mix. Cheers
The guy who owns all these amps is the guy who's responsible for making classic Marshalls scarce on the market and also very expensive. A lot of people who'd like to be able to find and afford one must hate him.
Johan Segeborn Oh, I understand. I feel that you should do a video of you playing a Marshall 1959 SLP cranked with a stratocaster. It's hard to find videos of Fender guitars and plexis, I'm curious to know how it sounds on full.
+Chris Jimenez I´ll will let Johan demo my JTM45/100 lead just a serial number away from Jimis and an old Strat and two G12H cabs!... happy then Chris? :)
they all sound deadly but the '70 super bass and the '71 super lead are magical to my ears! thanks again for providing a wide spectrum of Marshall tonage!
Thanks Gary, those two had marvellous dynamics. Cheers
Those 68 and 69 super basses sound just fantastic. That low end crunch! That red 1969 JMP50 sounded great too.
Thanks! Yeah the red had a really cool woody sound
I could listen to your "shootouts" all day, buddy! Love that 1970 Super Bass. Thanks for this one, Johan.
+Scott S Thanks Scott, glad to hear that! Cheers Johan
Fantastic, as always. And I love that there is some room sound, as that's what we'd hear live as players and I have no interest in recording sounds. What really strikes me here is the 68 12series and how astonishing it is that Eddie Van Halen took that classic rock sound and with his hands turned it entirely into something else.
Thanks! Yeah different touch and different riffs can make an amp sound like many amps :-)
The front end of these amps is incredibly sensitive to what you put into it. More than most other amps I've played. Minor nuances in pickup gain, woods, strings, all of that comes out in the tone you hear through these. Put a 2db clean boost in front, and you can easily take them into Eddie Van Halen territory. It's easy to see how a cranked 68, with all controls on 10, with an MXR EQ in front, boosting the mids just a bit, plus the Echoplex which added a little warmth and a little more gain, could easily get the gain structure he had. Then, you just need his fingers. :)
+Scott Baierl Yeah, that's the tricky part ;-)
no.8 - '68 super bass ... sounds awesome !!! creamy , gentle ... got a natural harmonics ... which i loved ... fantastic ! ! !
Thanks! I really liked it too. Cheers Johan
amazing amount of gear, technology, and history! Thanks for making quality videos and sharing all this amazing equipment! your playing is sweet to. era appropriate!
Thanks Nicholas, I appreciate it! Cheers
So inspirational. Tone is so important. Like a tone museum.
+Burntshocker Thanks, that's really good to hear
69 super bass takes the cake ! They all sound so nice !!! Thanks Johan ! : )
Thanks Mitchell! That's the one with the Bogner mod. Cheers
Nothing can beat those old plexis ! i have a couple...but that red 69 alu panel sounds best to my ears, somehow just right...
Thanks Johan.!
Thanks! I really liked that one too. But the 68 50W is an all time fav of mine
I watched it twice, great resource here, very cool..thanks for posting.
Thanks! Glad to hear that! Cheers
All sound amazing! Surprisingly similar, your friend hasn't held on to any bad ones ;)
I like the clarity of the later amps. JTM50 no.1 was especially well balanced though. Cleanup and versatility for different styles would be great to hear. Thanks!
Thanks!
Its amazing to see all those amps stacked up great video!
Thanks, yeah it's a beatiful sight
Johan...you are a crazy man my friend!! Thanks for these videos man,and I've been looking at all of them! A true labor of love,from a guy that has too much money and way to much free time! Peace.
Thanks Don! My pleasure
Johan has a very good job or good friends or both to be able to get his hands on all this vintage gear. Another great video
71 superlead! Great sounds Johan, thanks, grts from holland
Thanks Francois, I loved the 71 SL Great percussive sound.
Enjoying catching up with your videos after having no proper Internet access during long hospital visit and no phone. Collapsed on it and smashed it lol. Oh how we rely on tech. This video makes me want to make Marshall coloured noise. Not allowed yet according to doc. Boo. Hope alls good with you mate great video as ever.
Hi, hope you're having a quick recovery! Cheers Johan
that 69 Super Bass and that 89 JMP salvation dude my GAWD!
Awesome and fascinating ... thanx Johan!
Thanks , glad to hear that!
Thanks for doing this Johan.
+SpirituSalis Thanks :-)
Not to sound jealous or anything but.... damn....! Killer video and playing as always Johan and 'god jul' in advance!
Thanks Tuomas! God Jul och Gott Nytt År!
Great comparison. They all sound excellent. I have a Red 69 JMP 50 watt as well.
John, you are a true prophet to the Church of Tone. Lol, Seriously, you are a youtube treasure for guitar players. Each amp sounds great. I'm sure via tweaking of tone controls or tubes you could get each fairly close sounding. I love em all, the fabric ripping crunch of the JTM to the thick sustain of the Super Bass. You do the classic rock tone: Free, Bad Company etc., very well. Would love to see another multi Marshall video to see which does a better Duane, Jimmy, and Jimi.
Also another great job. Nice playing man.
Thanks! Glad to hear it. Cheers
really enjoyed the video... and you were awesome in Django
Haha! :-)
That 1969 Superbass is awesome. As you were plugged into the 2nd input I'm willing to bet its had the Randy Rhoads mod done to it so the two channels are cascaded. Sounded so snarly :)
Thanks, it's been modded by Bogner
Dr Love at the 8 minute mark? Ace would be proud!!
Thanks man! That's a very nice thing to say, I love Ace and Paul! Cheers
Sweet mother of Marshall.
:-)
This is crazy good! As always.... keep them comming.😉
+yoctanuri Thanks! Glad to hear that! :-) Cheers
You must have superior patience to put as much time as it must have taken to do a comparison like this. I commend you! The standouts for me were definitely the first '67 JTM50 Black Flag followed closely by the second '67 JTM50 Black Flag. I liked both the '69 and '68 Super Bass and '71 Lead 50w too. I didn't care for either the Super PA and surprisingly the '70 Super Bass.
Excellent J! Super Bass for me man.
Thanks!
71 super lead for me. Awesome playing!
Thanks Raffi!
I think there is something special with both of the 1971 series plexis... a certain richness and overtone that stands out to my ears.
Fantastic as always! My only criticism is the use of the Super Distortion pick up.
Thanks! Don't you like that pickup?
It certainly has a particular tone and drives the amp harder than a PAF style. Doesn't stop me from loving and appreciating the great videos, though. : )
+mdub048 Thanks! Glad to hear that! :-)
your face when you hit the PA and wider where the volume went. (i have one too). That white 50 for the win for me. I always said this was how to get a classic plexi hard rock sound, by using a hot pickup straight into one.
Yeah the PA had such a wonderful rock'n'roll tone. There is indeed nothing like a guitar straight into a cranked amp! Cheers Johan
damn, the 1968 12,000 series sounds almost the same as Eddie Van Halen's Marshall!
+bob joe Yeah, he had a 12000 too. Best aggressive Marshall tone in 68 :-)
Holy Marshall heaven Batman!
Was that a little ‘Calling Dr Love’ at the end???
Not a huge Marshall fan, but the purple looks and sounds so nice.
Thanks Andris, it certainly does
...just loved it...thanks a lot!!!!
Glad to hear! Thanks
67 Black Flag #1 hands down for me
+Nemo Alicunde Thanks Nemo! It's almost like its alive
69 and 70 Super Bass heads were my favourite. 69 seemed so heavy and saturated. The 70 was.warm and open. Great amps.
Thanks Jeremy, the 69 is actually modded by Bogner. Great amp.
+Johan Segeborn That explains the heavier sound. Great vid as always. Watching your videos always makes me want to play. To try and get the best out of my old Marshall. Cheers
That makes me glad, man. Cheers!
Well, I'm surprised how similar many of them sound....and how DIFFERENT the two JTM50's sound from each other. THANKS JOHAN!!
Thanks Nick, they all have their charcters. But some are very close. Cheers
besides the super bass and pa models, they all sound pretty close give or take slight variations, some more than others but not huge make or break differences.
+progjazzfusion Yeah the differences are subtle when comparing to all amps. Cheers
1968 jmp 50 Salvation Plexi !!! Te best !!!
That was great Johan. What settings did you have them at? Noticed you wore headphones to protect your ears. There are definitely differences to the sound. How do you get the best out of them without blowing away the band?
Thanks! Basically all knobs on 8-10 but bass which was 0-3 depending on amp. I attenuated -8 and -12dB on 50 and 100 watters with a hotplate. That's basically the level that the Ribbon accepts. Cheers Johan
All sound good to me.What kind of speakers are you that cab? I'm curious to see how a early jtm 45 would sound, probably cleaner than the others. Good vid.cheers
Thanks! They are G12M 75Hz Greenbacks from 1970
Are those the 25 watt speakers? I want to see what a 50 watt plexi with kt66 and a tube rectifier would sound like but never had the chance to try to compare that with a 50 watt El 34 and solid state rectifier.
Yes that's correct.
My wife would have kicked me out by the 3rd amp!
Haha! Well compared to the Pleximaster collection I have a small number of amps. But not a small enough number if you ask my significant other unfortunately
Yeah understood.. Actually I meant playing the amps for this recording :)
Hey Johan, in your experience how close is a 70 superlead to the 71? Awesome video as always, what a service you're doing for the Marshall community.
As long as the 71 still has the c1998 output transformer they are the exact same.
That 71 SL is the one!
Again, great video (saw the second part of the shootout first), not much talking, more playing, very nice! Wondering whats the average volume on all these amps? Thanks!
Glad to hear it! The 100W are about 120dB cranked and the 50watters are about 117dB cranked with this cab and I knocked off -12dB for the 100w(hotplate) and -9dB for the 50W, so the volume was a bit under 108dB 1 meter from the speaker cabinet. Cheers
Yes, yes, yes!! Thank you!
+thestereostate Thanks! :-)
Hi!! They all sound amazing!! I want to build a replica myself with the 1966-1967 JTM45/100 style board and KT66.
Cant find any over the internet. Do you have the diagrams for it? Thanks!!
Great sounds Johan and how do you get hold of all of amps/cabs etc ,anyway great video
Thanks Michael! These are from Pleximasters collection
each of these amps sound awesome. You really make very nice sound recordings as well, your ambient mic placement is always very nice to hear ! You are a very lucky man to own all these wonderfull amps, and you honor them by giving them their youth and primal attitude ! Anyway you sell one of these ? :) Cheers from France
Thanks Jean-Baptiste! Unfortunately their not mine :-( but I loved playing them! :-D Cheers Johan
The Super Bass is my all time fav...I'll trade you my pick up truck for the '68.
+CHAISE HOMBRE :-)
Awesome amps and video! :)
Thanks Nick!
Dear Rohan a 'friend of mine ' had his jtm 45 and TV 4x12 set up in the lounge and 'his' wife asked him to shift it .. thoughts...?
Man, that JTM-45 and JTM-50..perfect crunch tone!! Johan what does the term super PA mean? I saw you play an excellent 1967 Super PA JTM-45 also, in a different video..great tones! So, does JTM-45 or JTM-50 mean 45 or 50 watts?
Great Playing :D
Thanks Lars!
Good work man :-) Bra jobbat ;-)
Thanks! Tackar så mycket :-)
Marshall maniac!Cool! :))
+Серж БеликоFF Thanks! :-)
Johan did you ever notice that alot of players prefer the 1971 Marshall superlead? But they all sound fantastic!
+Mikel Rainone Thanks Mikel, You are right. That was my experience from the previous 15 plexi shootout though. Cheers
epic thank you johan did you do that by yourself or did a friend help
Thanks, just me and Pleximaster
Holy s**t that "salvation" sounds so sweet :) what kind of wizardry is inside of the "salvation" and is it the doing of Pleximaster? A close second is the 1969 jmp50
In general i prefer the 50 watters :) smoother and more compression.
A magic amp indeed! You can check out the circuit here
th-cam.com/video/KYhYULo8C0U/w-d-xo.html
+Klaus bak - looking at the parts values of it on johans other vid shows it to have all standard plexi parts values, so the differences are down to perhaps component drift, the output tranformer, and the tubes in it at present (as Im sure all these amps did not have the exact same tubes in them). Different output transformers can make a big difference alone.
+Klaus bak The "Salvation plexi" is just the way I got it from the Salvation army, even same tubes! This one is the only amp that was featured in the first 15 amp shootout clip. This is my fave amp, it is required by to big guitar names for their recordings, Can´t tell who unfortunately. You have probably heard this amp on the radio... :)
We will hopefully make another 15 Marshall clip this spring and include the Marshall Majors and Pig 200!
Can you test them all with a Stratocaster, maybe a few other guitars, that would sound cool with all these amps.
Usually time limits how many guitars that can be included in the videos. But Strat is certainly the guitar I would add after the Les Paul
69 super bass was killer
+Fraser L Thanks!
Did you do any clean tones on these that we might see in future videos?
No, there wasn't time, I'm afraid.
I might be asking a stupid question, but do you own all these amps? What’s amazing is they all have the same general character but each had their own unique voice. That PA 100 was awesome as well.
Good stuff
Thanks Jon!
Hi Johan, did you like the 1971 super lead ? it sounded really good but not as good as the salvation.
Is Plexi master is older then you ? If so, sign a contract to buy his gear when he pass away to the other side. ...
Oh by the way, nice way to finish 2015.....a revisit to complete the loop :) I really like your videos !!!!
+Sylvain Alain LOL! Johan is actually 2 years older than me so he will have to sell me back all the good stuff he has bought from me... :)
Thanks Sylvain :-) that's a nice way of looking at it!
It was one of my favourites actually
Do you ever jump the channels?? Also would you demo the 1959RR???
I jump the channels if the sound is too thin, but it takes away a lot of attack so I try to avoid it. The best way to achieve a punchy bass is to play loud :-)
I'd like to demo the RR. When I come across one I will!
+Johan Segeborn I suppose thats the biggest killer with those old amps gotta turn em up!! But the compression and attack they get is fantastic! Ive got a 59 and had sounds guys ask me to turn it down when im on one!
I want that Red 69 50W, 70 Super PA and white 71 Lead 50W! Please put me in contact ASAP!
Amazing !!! all amps sound great, your r9 bridge pickup looks awesome, is that a burstbucker with the cover off ?
very cool playing and video as always Johan :-) BIG LIKE
Thanks Noah! It"s a vintage Super Distortion actually
+JCMSLASH - NoahThawco read the discription
WOOOOOOO!!!!!!
+Human Steve Thanks man!
I know you into vintage stuff, but Johan, you shoud definately try Friedman amps. BE-100 is insane!
+Stanislav N-sky Have never had a chance to play one yet. Have heard great thing s about them.
Johan, as always great. But too much room sometimes. Just friendly advise
Thanks Andrew, I had two mixes actually, one with more room sound and one with less room and thus more dynamics. The room is so important to the lower mids and the character of each amp so I chose the spatial mix. Cheers
that 1966 JTM45 just seems to stand out in every video...
This is crazy!
And crazy is GOOD :-D
The guy who owns all these amps is the guy who's responsible for making classic Marshalls scarce on the market and also very expensive. A lot of people who'd like to be able to find and afford one must hate him.
Well, that guy lend me these amps to make this demo. That should count for something, right?
Why don't you ever use stratocasters? I know you use one for a few videos, but not very often. Do you just prefer the tone of les pauls?
Hi Chris, I brought a Strat to this session but there wasn't time unfortunately
Johan Segeborn Oh, I understand. I feel that you should do a video of you playing a Marshall 1959 SLP cranked with a stratocaster. It's hard to find videos of Fender guitars and plexis, I'm curious to know how it sounds on full.
Ok, I'll do a video of a cranked stack with a Strat soon!
Thank you so much!
+Chris Jimenez
I´ll will let Johan demo my JTM45/100 lead just a serial number away from Jimis and an old Strat and two G12H cabs!... happy then Chris? :)
Can you sent me the 2 least favorites of yours. ;)
Haha :-)
1967 tremolo !
Thanks Robert!
70 Super Bass for me.
+OperationEndGame thanks
No attenuation this time. Any particular reason other than the obvious one of straight amp tone.
I actually used the same attenuation settings as the last time, Hot plate with -8dB (50w) and -12dB (100w).
Oh,ok.
No 2005 1959hw :(
I'll just take the one you don't want bro..
Faar out brother..
Was that a little ‘Calling Dr Love’ at the end???