ELESTRALS CLASH - ALPHA BUILD REACTIONS & FIRST IMPRESSION
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ธ.ค. 2024
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Gamers when a game in alpha is actually in alpha: O:
Can you blame them though? When every other alpha that gets released is secretly a beta or a demo in disguise, people are going to become accustomed to that level of functionality. It's also just a bad idea to showcase your product in such a buggy state.
@ yeah it’s absolutely wild that “alpha” builds aren’t even close to alpha anymore, makes it really hard for smaller devs to release real alpha builds because they aren’t at the same quality as early access games on steam. I’m not upset at all that clash has so many bugs and looks so clunky, I mean, it still feels like master duel is in beta despite being out for over a year
@@HakuohZone honestly yeah I can blame them for falling for corporate greed trick number 1848288489™
Yeah, really puts into perspective how watered down that term has become over the years, these days being "mostly done but missing a lot of the meat"
As someone who studied computer engineering I found the seeing the game release in such an early state absolutely fascinating. A lot of college projects I saw got good grades looking just as if not worse than that how Elestrals Clash looks right now.
People underestimate the work and effort to make something that works... At all.
truer words have never been said.
This isn't a college project though. There are expectations when this is a money-backed project.
You took the words out of my mouth.
I can't wait for the full release. No one around me plays Elestrals so this game is the only way I'd be able to play
Same
I mean mbt runs events over webcame too, so there's that.
@@jakebennett9130 yeah but if you're not in the na region you've got to pay an extra 15 in shipping for official product, or still quite a lot from tcgplayer. Plus I'm not 100% sure mbt will send you prizing if you're outside of na, he had this problem for the mcs and I reckon it's still here
Personally, I want to see how the beta improves (and takes away) on the alpha version.
I think keeping the priority as a non default option is important for high level play, but something similar to MD's auto button should definitely be included.
Well, this is certainly a minimun viable product lol
Yeah this roadmap is very short, wouldn’t be surprised if beta or full release ends up getting delayed, but hey it works and that’s probably what the devs were trying to get done.
I really, really, REALLY hope they step back and delay their deadline for the full (or at least early access) release if it ends up taking longer than expected instead of stubbornly standing their ground and releasing an unfinished product
4:40 This is also a thing in magic clients. That's where "f6" came from. My understanding is Arena has cleaned it up by auto passing as a default unless you toggle on, but I"m sure it'll get ironed out eventually.
I'm still excited that it's this functional at all so fast. I do hope they change the Q1 2025 release. I would love to be able to recommend the game to friends and have good first impressions on release. I'd rather they take their time to really polish it up.
So I think this was actually a bit of a screw up on Elestrals part with this release. Releasing an unfinished Alpha build for testing and development is fine (as MBT notes, it is perfectly normal for game development) but I think they may have misjudged their audience here.
Elestrals has done pretty well in getting youtubers and streamers to play their game, so unsurprisingly those streamers were hype to play Clash, and went to stream the alpha. This means a lot of people's first exposure to the game is seeing an unfinished buggy mess. I think they probably should have kept testing internal until the game was in a better state, and then invite streamers.
Hopefully development continues quickly and we get a more polished product in just a few months, if it does the Alpha will probably just end up something we meme about in hindsight.
Being "unfinished" and 'buggy" is how the software development cycle of anything works. Why does that make it a mess
@@TheKaijudistbecause if it a people first exposure to it seeing their fav streamer trying it out it not going to do it any favors in the long run if it looks like this first expression are very important, they definitely should have waited tell the whole first set was added and was more polished to have streamer show it to 1000s of people
@@Alkhemia8 That's okay, those people will just forget about it in a few months.
I think it's fine to have involved streamers, but I'd have definitely forbid them from streaming/using their footage for videos for a while, while still letting them discuss the alpha openly
it doesn't matter, because these people don't know how development works and what "alpha build" means, they do not have access to it anyways and thus it doesn't matter if they decide to not play it because it looks bad. But once the game is available to the public and their favorite content creator streams it again and it's in a (hopefully) playable state they'll change their mind and try it out (implying they even remembered their first reaction to the alpha in the first place).
Realistically, the only people that could potentially be driven away from the game are those who are:
-somewhat interested in Elestrals
-not following any particular content creator
-ignorant about what "alpha build" means
they'd check out the new online client from random youtube videos, see that it's bad and buggy, decide they don't want to play it because it's bad and buggy and when the finished game releases they would assume it's in the same state and wouldn't bother watching new videos because they don't actually follow said content creators, but to them is just a random video
So, realistically, how many people do you think fit this description, considering most if not all of Elestrals' popularity comes from content creators in the first place?
My bet is on exactly 2
I am very interested in Elestrals. Im just not a paper person anymore. If the game has good UI and smooth UX i am so in. My only fear is I am spoiled by MD too much and it cant meet it enough. That said if it is half as good it will be great.
NGL if all of this was in a month this product is looking to be really good, any person who has even dabbled in game design will know that this isn't bad.
Since the game will be releasing in the first trimester of 2025, we do have a lot of room for improvement. They could also inspire in other games, when we're talking about UI - such as Master Duel or, since the Deck Building tab is so similar to, Hearthstone. All and all, I'm excited to play the game on Day 1 if possible, and I hope they teach us how to play - and in this department, there's no better teacher than Magic Arena, which taught us how each color works, putting us against every other color and, for graduation, you face a opponent in a unranked match while they're using one of the loaners as well.
As a backer of the clash Kickstarter (lowest tier), how/when will i get access to clash? Never got an email saying "clash alpha is out. Thank you backer! Download here!"
Its weird that this has so many issues given the fact that the lorcanan version was super clean.
the Lorcana "version" was not in the same stage of development as this one currently is. as Joseph said at the start, the modern game industry pushes developers to release playable builds with the "alpha" or "beta" title so it creates 3 hype cycles instead of one (calling them "build 0.1 and 0.2 doesn't have the same effect compared to saying shit like "game is coming out of ALPHA and into the BETA stage with new stuff!!!!"). but they are not what alpha or beta builds actually are. This is a traditional alpha build = a very early prototype that's not meant to be playable
I really hope they change the deck layout. Was never a fan of the Pixelborne layout. also hope that the defense and attack positions are easier to tell apart in the final game because from what I've seen they look pretty similar.
I really wanna play elestrals but sadly i think theyre gonna have to push the release date until summer sadly
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I wouldnt be so sure, the hardest stuff is a lot of the ground work to get everything functioning, which we have a lot of even if its a bit buggy. Theyve shared how much this version has come along even in this last week or two
I really hope so cause i want to play this sooo much
I assume a lot of people in this comment section are like myself, where you play Master Duel, and want a new tcg or just something to dabble in. But having played MD and other tcg games like runeterra or mtg arena, pokemon and hearthstone, comparing this to MD is unfair especially so soon, shit MTG arena and pokemon aren't as good as MD and they came out before MD did. Very few tcg games play as well with immersing effects as MD does, nvm as bug free.
MD took 2 years of development
Na dawg the attack/defense are not communicated well with the tiny changes of orientation, I need that shit differentiated PRONTO. Also, Attack and Defense should just be on one side ala MTG Arena I think they're like weirdly far apart
i think i still would prefer the paper game so far
Everyone prefers paper, but an online client that's free make the game so much more accessible and easy to join, that will push the paper product.
this is a bit of a pet-peeve of mine, but this isn't an alpha. it's a BETA
an alpha build is a game that's only seeing play by exclusively developers, designers, quality assurance workers etc. i.e. people working for the company in-house.
it becomes a BETA build when its fit for playtesting by outsiders used to garner public opinion of the game. This is why every other open release of a game is yknow, a working prototype with a lot of bugs to fix but still functional and playable
its not the level of development that makes something an alpha or beta. its who is allowed access.
This is true. If this was an alpha there wouldn't even be a GUI.
No, this is an Alpha that they decided to give to streamers and said streamers showed to the public
If you make a non functioning prototype and show it to the public it doesn't suddenly become a functioning one
@@scizor285 every Alpha is different and every developer works in different way, not having a GUI is not a requirement for a piece of software to be in the alpha states
@@rajkanishu the distiction between alpha and beta has nothing to do with functionality. you can release a finished product thats completely broken. its just people tend to release their betas as somewhat functional because they want to give a good impression
And only key people got to test it. Is an alpha test with is very common to do. To pretend only in house does alpha testing is just being outright dishonest.
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