Painting Accurate Values
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ย. 2021
- The value masses drive most paintings. So getting then in accurately is important. But accurate to what? A photo, life, or your painting's needs.
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A simple, yet huge take away: ensure that the values SERVE the painting. Thank you Ian, for these gems of insight.
Well said. Thank you and glad you liked it Mark
That was a bit more in depth analysis of how our attention moves through the painting: loved it! Very informative and soothing to watch. So much to learn still... pfff. Thanks!
Wonderful! Enjoy the process, and have fun.
This is amazing break down of values. Usually I got the impression that accurate value is what accurate like in real life!
Hearing you walk through the composition of this painting was so helpful, Ian. I really appreciated learning about the choices you were making and what you were changing versus what you left in from the photo. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and expertise with us so generously!
You are most welcome. Glad you found it helpful.
You are a genius when it comes to composition and colors.
Great timing for me, with this video. I'm at the point in painting to learn these things. Not using values had been what kept my paintings from the next level. The way you've explained it in this video is so helpful and such an important thing for painters to learn. Especially when you point out "its the values WITHIN the painting that matter." Not the plein air in front of you, or the photo you're working from, but the painting. Its priceless information. All of your videos are great, but this one is really special.
Thanks so much Alan. Really glad that idea hit home. All the best.
no shenanigans. just incredibly helpful. what great resource you are. Thank you.
You're very welcome!
Loved how you led the eye to the center of interest way back and not only the value shifts, but the subtle color temperature shifts. This painting sings!
Thank you very much! What a compliment.
As a watercolorist things are not as simple and require more planning but the essence of what you teach is still invaluable.
Ditto David, I work in Acrylics but yes, Ian's insights are applicable across materials
yes I apply this to watercolours too. He covers the basics of painting and visualising very well!
I agree. Composition and value are relevant to all media. Get lots from Ian's tutorials.
HI David, you know they call watercolor the medium of the masters because one most watercolor artists are looking for that nice loose look and using the accidents AND it takes a lot of planning so that is possible. But I'm delighted you find the videos helpful.
Delighted to know it Gerald.
This is so helpful. Perhaps I'm just getting dialled in, but listening to your thinking and watching paint go onto your canvas at the same time has really resonated for me this morning. I may try a 'copy' of this painting to reinforce the learnings. Thank you
Hi Joanne, makes me happy to hear the video resonated with you. Making a copy's a good plan if that idea inspires you. Good luck with it. All the best.
Making that scene look easy! Great painting and explanation of value choices for the scene to read the way the artist wants instead of having to stick with what’s live or how a photo looks.
A lot of freedom in the idea that you could go on location and paint a bright sunny scene in a different way such a overcast, moody :)
Simply helping to understand what is values but I think the composition of painting will be a very important too ? I believe my eye what I could see much better than photo. Thank you so much. Ian Roberts .
Thank you for helping the world get some values. They certainly are lacking these days.
A true master class. Just brilliant. Thank you, Ian!
WOW! I see the light! Thank you Ian. I have struggled with value for so long. I knew what value was but never explained to me how to use it. Instead I tried hard to make it match what I saw in front of me. Wasn’t working!
Wonderful demonstration of establishing and painting accurate values.
You give affirmation and permission to the individual artist to determine the intent of the painting…..to create an interpretation of what is seen not an exact copy of a photograph, nor even an actual rendering of what is real, that which is being seen in person.
The most important point is keeping the values appropriate for your vision, making sure that they relate to one another in the painting. The purpose of values is either to show contrast or gradation, and each painting determines to what extent these two factors occur. As you stated, the values must serve the painting, not the photograph, not reality. Value is subjective and relative, yet contemplated, intended.
To me, it appeared, that you lightened the shadows in the foreground, and even the mid-ground…..they really weren’t as dark as what was seen in the photo reference…..a very similar result to what you achieved in last week’s painting. This approach allowed us to see more colors in the shadows, colors that were not evident in the photograph. You demonstrated value contrasts in half tone shifts. The values remain very close to each other with minimal contrast. The painting adhered more to your initial thumbnail sketch. Once again, illustrating the value of a preliminary ‘map.’
Also, it never ceases to amaze me at how dark initially a value needs to be painted, keeping the deep saturation, to create the greatest contrast for the light and details of highlights that will follow. Without the dark, there is no light! The dark values also give the painting its structure, with the lighter values leading the eye from the foreground to the background. We see the light gently dancing across the foliage, the fluidity of its movement as it glides across the landscape, slowly sweeping to the soft blush of the sky and the mist of the sea!
I am excited for next week’s discussion of plein air materials!
Happy Thanksgiving!🦃
Hi Ann Marie, that's a really good summary of the video. I am delighted all those ideas got generated from the video. Yes next week plein air painting and I hope you have a terrific Thanksgiving as well.
Fantastic demo !
Glad you like it!
Thank you Ian. Your thinking process makes so much sense even if it’s applied to watercolour. Thank you.
Thank you - great info - loved how you took our eye through the painting...the puzzle of values revealed
Stunning!
you're an incredibly good teacher and you help with genuine problems artists have, you're like a guardian angel😇
Great lesson on where to place the contrast and stronger values. Thanks.
You are so welcome
Wonderful transition from a very dark composition through the different stages showing the lights and pulling us in…. Thank you Ian.
thank you! this is the second video of yours that i've watched, and i'm learning a lot.
This is magical! So glad I found your channel. I never understood values, but you explain it so well that I can finally begin to comprehend. Your videos convey this crucial but often vaguely-explained information incredibly well and I believe they might just be what I need. A subscription well-earned. Looking forward to all your videos. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us, it is greatly appreciated.
This really helped tremendously. I so often get stuck with photos trying to match values in frustration sets in and never finish. This is so exciting to know and be aware of. Thank you again for such an excellent video.
This 11 minute lesson was more informative and powerful than watching a 2 hour demo in a workshop. Pure and without interruption and chit chat. I enjoy every Tuesday morning because of your lessons. Thank you.
Makes me very happy to hear. Thank you so much
I love all of your videos, you've inspired me on painting more landscapes while practising my techniques. Thank you!
Also a watercolor painter and what you're teaching us about "value masses" is the best lesson I've heard re values. Watercolor painters tend to obsess abiut how many levels of value a given color can achieve by adding water. And, frankly that has (had) created an irrational fear of painting in me!!!! Because, I simply cannot see those six or ten or twelve steps. Value masses I CAN SEE and achieve without obsessive swatching of my watercolor palette.
P.S. Light and dark. 👍🏼 great demo. Thank you
Thanks so much. Delighted you found the video helpful and perhaps freed something about painting values in watercolor. All the best.
I have been watching you for over a year, you are my saving Grace as I struggle with value and light.
You are the best with explaining. Your a beautiful artists and I admire you and your work. Thank you for taking the time to helping other artists.
Bless you.
I’m so impressed, thank you so much.
This is very helpful! It clarified some questions I’ve struggled with, now I know why I couldn’t get where I want to go and what did I do wrong. Also gave me ideas on how to practice and improve. Thank you!
Ian makes fantastic points about values! Thank you.
You are simply the best!!
All of your videos are great but this one really took my breath away, Ian! Wonderful, evocative painting, perfect for illustrating your point about value accuracy being relative to the painting's needs as you designed it. Bravo!
I can taste the salt and smell the fragrance of that vegetation mixed with ocean spray. So evocative. Love. Love love!
Thanks for sharing. Glad you enjoyed it. All the best
Another beautiful moment- thank you for your generosity with your talent and skills- so helpful.
The idea of using value to serve the painting is very valuable. My tendency is always to try and portray the picture accurately but this idea will really expand my compositional approach. Thanks
Delighted you found the concept so helpful. All the best
You are a fabulous teacher. Thank you.
Excellent demonstration. Thankyou !
Absolutely scrumptious use of color, value and design. New to the channel but going back over the many different lessons. Big Thanks because your content is easy to understand and thus useful and engaging.
The Painting Coach was singing your praises just yesterday if you haven't hear already.
Yes, someone told me about and it and I went and watched. I thought that was very kind and generous. I left a message thanking him on his Instagram account.
A real artist. He knows well the craft. He is the one we should seriously learn from
So excited to find this channel. Started watching last night and can’t stop - so super helpful and informative. Thank you!!
Great lesson thank you Ian! First time I've heard a Master say that the artist chooses the values🙏
Hello. This painting of yours suggests to me, yet again, the importance of knowing when to stop. For me, as a novice, my wife plays an important role in my development, especially when I'm painting outdoors. Namely, she tells me when to stop by sweetly saying in this coaching whisper of hers, "Stop messing with it or you're going to screw it all up!" Thanks, again, Ian.
Hi Daryl, it's true thought. You can get your head so into the details that you lose sight of the whole. And an outside viewer can see the whole and isn't buried in the weeds. With practice you start to keep both those visions alive at the same time - the whole and the parts. But one thing I'd say is spend way more time standing back and looking at how it is coming together because lots of things that you can get buried in you can't even see from 8-10 feet away. Viewing distance. But bravo to your wife's eye.
@@IanRobertsMasteringComposition Early on, I followed the oil painter Mark Carder who said to regularly move back to 7 ft. and assess the painting. This is consonant with your advice. Some paintings just look better from a distance since the small flaws are less obvious. It seems that the trouble with submitting a photograph of a painting for a contest is that it is typically photographed in a close-up crop to the edge of the canvas. One wonders, then, if the judge will look at the photo from his/her desktop or from 7 ft. away.
Thank you for the explanation about values in photography.
Thank you. I appreciate the distinction you just drew between the value needed for the painting vs being true to the photo. That is a leap I really need to make.
Thank you Laura. I hope you find it useful!
This is one of my most favorite paintings. And the explanation of the relative values was very enlightening. I'm sure that you may have explained the same thing before, but this time, with this illustration, the light simply turned on in my mind. I understood the difficulty I've struggled with in some of my maritime paintings, and more importantly, how to fix it. Thank you.
Just beautiful, Ian. I see your point exactly about serving the outcome of the painting not the photo. I see what drew you to take the picture, but your painting is just much more striking. LOVE IT.
Thank you so much Martha!
I am so enjoying Ian’s advice and find him to be an excellent teacher, as a person who’s been just getting back into making art after a very long pause. Thank you Ian
You are most welcome Brenda. Good luck reengaging. All the best.
Thank you Ian. A brilliant lesson as always. I learnt so much more about edges and contrasts even though I thought I knew about them.
Oh wow, I always love your drawings - as evocative as your paintings.
Thank you Ian , Brilliant!
Thank you, Ian. This may be the most helpful lesson yet. It is inspiring to see that a shift in thinking can lead to such subtlety in the painting-and yet such a profound difference in the satisfaction of creating it. This was very helpful.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you Don
Simply a remarkable concept, game changing
Thanks so much James
This was so helpful, especially the idea of letting go of those values in the photo but also in the real life view, in order to serve my idea of the painting is liberating! Thank you once again.
You are so welcome Helen!
You are an amazing teacher. I learn something new, or understand something better, with each video lesson. Thank you.
Thx for listing the colors you use. Thanks for sharing your gifts with others. Blessings!
You are so welcome Marcus!
A landscape painting of such strong composition and depth a viewer can easily and joyously fall into. Your carefully orchestrated values of mass and hue make magic. Happy Thanksgiving for another memorable art lesson, Ian.
Thanks so much Christina. Glad you liked the video, and the painting. All the very best for Thanksgiving to you as well.
Great demo of a complicated scene. Thank you!
such a helpful video...my takeaway just like Mark Donovan..."ensure that the values serve the painting". Thank you so much for this.
Beautiful painting, and SUCH useful teaching . . . . thank you so much Ian! Again and again youre helping me to remember that I'm doing a painting that works, not copying a scene or photograph. I'm really enjoying being a "member of your art school"!
You are very welcome Jonquil! Delighted you are enjoying the videos so much
What a great lesson in values and contrasts. Thank you as always. Your knowledge and generosity are so appreciated.
My pleasure! Thank you Karen.
Fantastic demonstration. I truly love your channel. Thanks a lot Ian.
Yes! Preach it brother! Subscribed.
Wow... incredible
Love your perspective book!
Inspirational! I can imagine the wind in this painting, just look at the waves and the trees in the background. Just the certain amount of light and "wind". I am learning a lot from you. Thank you!
You are most welcome Selma.
Learning so much here. Thank you.
Fantastic video! Thank you.
THANK YOU, Ian for addressing the question from last week's video.. this is so helpful! I learned so much with this video... especially how you use hard and soft edges intentionally to guide the viewer through the composition. A stunning painting, too!
So glad you liked it. And thank you! All the best Lisa
A gem of knowledge & simplified.thank you sir ian "GOD BLESS & TAKE CARE."
Wow the atmosphere created with the background is so amazing!!!
Thank you Paresh!
Wow that was fantastic Ian , thank you for your clarity of vision and explanation of value masses. I have always been bothered by my photos and why they didn't portray what I remembered when taking them. Thank you for taking us along as you produced a beautiful work of art. Craig
Glad you enjoyed it Craig. All the best
Thank you for doing this one, it was my favorite of all the photos! Love how you simplified the subject. I look forward to trying this in my next session. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!
You are so welcome! Happy thanksgiving to you as well
Love this painting and demonstration - thank you!
Thanks. Clear. Concise. Instructive.
Glad it was helpful Glenda.
Brilliant. Thank you. I always learn so much. 🖼🖌🎨
Gosh I’m going to learn so much from your videos. Thank you so much.
Really like it, much appreciated Ian
Thank you Ian for yet another instructional video that is so helpful. I learn so much from when you explain your process while you paint. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. Stay well!
Thank you Jan! Happy thanksgiving to you and your family as well
These are wonderfully informative movies Ian. Thankyou for all your efforts.
Bravo , lm an accomplished painter, but l needed to see your work, l tend to get lost in detail, rather than the vital components, thank you so much.
Thanks you Ian for this demo. Look forward to next week.
You are welcome Kamlesh.
What a wonderful way to wake up! I really like Tuesdays, watching you paint and having my first cup of coffee. It’s a beautiful painting. Thanks👍
Wonderful! I hope you enjoy your cup of coffee. All the best
This is really amaizing, thank you!
Thank you Ian for taking the time to make these interesting and informative videos. I am learning a lot
You are so welcome Chris
Thank you for the color guide
Your videos are always so great. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. Hopefully I'll put them to good use in my work
So useful, relaxed and overall just so easy to listen to and learn. Beautiful painting as well. Great channel
this place is a treasure, easily one of the very best (and in some aspects, actually the best) youtube painting channel
Thank you so much. That is very nice of you to say
This is a very helpful video. I'm halfway through a painting that's just kind of "sittin' there" and I think pushing the values based on today's video will bring it alive. Thank you for being so generous with your experience.
Glad it was helpful! All the best Barbara
I am so grateful I stumbled upon your TH-cam channel. Your a gifted teacher. Thanks
You are so welcome Lucille
You are an awesome teacher! What a lesson in subtlety.
Thanks so much Deborah.
Ian , great demo and subject. The way you did it, sure turned it out beautifully. This one has been a great one for me to learn, big thanks and looking forward, Bob
i LOVE your paintings!!! theyre so gorgeous!!
Hello Ian, I really always learn something new in every painting you do! Great work! Love your style!
Happy to hear that! Thank you Megan
That was excellent. I love your lessons. I think I am learning more from you that will help my painting then... well, possibly from any teacher!
That was excellent - thank you