I'd be interested to see this technology used on terra firma like a desert location to confirm long term structural integrity with earth's own erosion before attempting this off planet. The gradation of glass to concrete is a beautiful concept.
IMO...they need to test everything in low gravity as found on Mars...For instance ...how will the printed slurry settle under less gravity...will the plumbing get clogged up in the printer, what happens if the printer takes a time-out and all the slurry starts to set-up...What can go wrong will go wrong
This has to be the most artsy, overly complicated system I could think off. It must have dozens of failure points that can only be repaired in earth. A nuclear furnace to bake bricks would be simple and they could be stacked by hand if necessary.
An advantage of this construction method is that the habitats can be constructed with almost no human intervention. So they can be constructed and tested before the population gets to Mars. Construction by hand would need lots of workers and where would they stay while constructing?
@@lhtyeehaw1319 our legs length is not the binding restriction in the height choice, but the force you need to excert to climb each step. Most people can step on a chair but climbing a stair of several "chair seat height" steps would be too much on Earth. Also steps need a minimum detph for step security. Hence a shorter stair design with fewer higher steps sesms logical in an habitat on Mars where surface area is so limited.
You haven't watched big bang theory then. The change in a steps height by only a few millimetres can cause a person to trip. Our minds are habitually trained to lift our foot a certain height. Gravity wont change that. It's foot eye co-ordination. But I understand the space requirements you mentioned and we might have to learn to step differently.
Well thought out design. Best one I have seen so far. Question would be mining or extracting the raw materials from the surface and delivery to the printers storage facility.
I think any colony would have to have substantial underground facilities, especially if lava tubes can be located near a water ice source. Larger underground bases, connected to above ground buildings would have the radiation shielding and ability to expand easily, plus the risk of depressurisation would be manageable. A subterranean transport system, connecting several surface stations would make travelling between various facilities safer, less resource hungry and less vulnerable to weather and road/rail obscuration due to sandstorms. Vast lava tubes are thought to exist on Mars, and their benefits should not be neglected by humans used to living above ground.
if we start on mars we need to go underground first. they'd have ever expanding tunneling and it'll provide safety from those planet wide sand storms and if they had starship launch from a subsurface cargo bay humanity would thrive long enough to start building on the surface. this current idea is cool but so much can go wrong with the robotic printing since the ground has to be level and im sure the wind could be problematic even with a machine that large, at least underground the worst you can get is the structure collapsing but i doubt it would plus you'd already have the materials to build on the surface with actual engineers
Your onto something there. It's a lot more feasible to use a digging and tunneling method. We would need that machinery in the first place to mine the materials necessary to build any of these structures via 3D printing. Going underground would be better for the radiation levels and sand storms like you say. The idea of getting that giant machine to Mars along with all the other massive machines to mine and process the materials before you even start is idiotic. Just makes more sense to start with the easiest method to get a foothold on the planet
So, this design seems very well thought out and designed. Other than the necessity for water in the curing process, what were the critieria in which ths design failed relative to AI Spacefactory?
i like it but how does the printer test out when printing in a -32* temp because the nozzle and air around it wouldnt it freeze up and or not layer bond well
@@nicholaspatton1742 AI today is quite getting scarier, take a look at Alphastar Deepmind AI in Starcraft. Imagine this kind of AI tech applied in Martian Robots. XD
Very good. People like you make us dream some more, and sometimes make them come true! Good work! RObots should be sent frist to build shelters and other amenities. Walking androids and other robots are almost ready. So logically we could colonize Mars between 2040 and 2050 if we wish for it. A moon station to begin with and simplify cargo would be a smart move.
@MrFr0stycave I don't think the main problem will be dust has our smartphones and smart watches are already equipted with water and dust resistance. The problems will be on the side of landing on Mars, but because there is a Carbon Gaz based atmosphere on Mars, cargos should be sent first before any living humans. THey are already testing parachutes for mars. See this video th-cam.com/video/AcAgnQ9K7UY/w-d-xo.html We should build a base on the Moon to better prepare those cargos. now I don't know if the Moon can be mined for minerals like metals. That would help greatly.
Will this hold inside air pressure. If it doesn't, then 3d printing of buildings on Mars seems overcomplicated. Much simpler is pouring gravel over pressurised vessels placed in dugouts.
If you know the atmospheric *pressure of Mars, then you will have an idea how much internal pressure should be applied for that kind of structure to maintain an equilibrium, so it does not crack. Further, closed and controlled environment have leakage allowance for good reason.
Great...only concern is the thus far evidence free archibabble about how uplifting these structures will be. What kind of systematic research has been done to assess the relationships between these habitats & human responses to them? The concept is, however sound. Just wish the typical archibabble at the end of this video had been left out.
Have they considered the differential pressure inside and outside the habitat. Too lazy to google the ground level pressure of Mars, but i am under the impression the Martian atmosphere is at a much lower pressure than that of Earth at ocean level.
To truly make it work, we need to send almost sentient robots to Mars. They would be tasked with finding these indigenous materials, and constructing villages in advance of human visits.
This is a massive project. Very ambitious and it would be a true engineering marvel, if they were able to build and prototype it here on earth. But that’s just it, isn’t it. You not only have to construct and test this vehicle (witch looks to be around the size of a large mining dump truck) but then you have to launch it on multiple rocks. There’s no way one star ship can handle this payload. This project from my prospective needs stream lining maybe have the printing arm be the only thing tracking along out there, and have a hoses to the material storage. I dont know it just seems like they are thinking the red planet is more of an ideal place to build than it actually is.
oh and you guys and AI space factory need to come together then space x to get you guys there i see potential as as a three one can focus on habitat, transportation and the mission itself. the materials selected are good this how i see it happening, space x gets you there, you guys get the a massive main shell printed about 600mm thick, AI space factory creates the interior at the same time after a level of the main shell has been printed, then the combined logistics arrive and then a super habitat has been created.
There sure was a distinct lack of automated mining equipment in this presentation...and a whole lot of moving parts. Are they gonna send a maintenance crew as well?
There will be a population of 100 - 200 people on Mars, before they can think about printing habitats. The first settlers on Mars will live in SpaceX Starships. These ships will be either in vertical or horizontal position.
I think it looks small for a life of at leat 2 years in only 4 modules... I guess there should be ways to have a continuous construction of new modules.. just the perspective of having a new module built some time ahead will garantee the sanity of everyone on board. People confined to a planet in which they can´t go outside and play might no be very healthy mentally! Being confined here on Earth as an experiment, there is a garantee in the back of the subjets´ heads that they can break free at any moment.. this is a total different perspective.
mulitpule things one is the seals how can they be fully sealed when they are put in lst one worng movement of them being put in could case strutural failure and more problems later on in the structures life, another is how do you find and mine the materials and how do you process the differnt grains of the dirt to the correct size for proper printing as if the peice is to big it could clog up the system making it inoperable
@@3gunslingers im dyslexic mate also i havent got a single idea of how they could fix it, im just pointing out a possible problem that they could improve on
What bothers me, Mars doesn't have flowing water. In other words, digging and using compressed soil would probably make a little more sense. Dig deep enough and Geo-thermal heat could be utilized.
Did they mention, if they tried this 3D printing in the same conditions as Mars? Thin air and low temperature, except for gravity they should be able to do a good earth bound simulation. If you could show us that it would be a lot less "pie in the sky"
Did they mention, if they tried this 3D printing in the same conditions as Mars? Congratulations, you've just asked a question without it being a real question. Good job.
Pardon my naïveté, but for Mars and several other bodies in the solar system I'd prefer subterranean construction, as in lava tubes on Earth's Moon, to protect from the outer environment. If we were to build on the surface, I'd prefer a structure reminiscent of an iceberg, where most of the ice is below the surface of the water -- that is, most floors of the building would be below ground level, again as protection from the outer environment. I like the idea of printed habitats, but I'd like to see the gathering of regolith for building material done partly as excavation to make room for the underground floors.
Glad you mentioned it! Creating synergy between supporting humanity on earth and space shall have the greater results. Building habitats in all extreme environments on earth will raise the quality of life on earth and teach us how to live on other planets.
So for now, we've got dancing robots. I believe it's going to take decades, if not a generation to develop the AI and robotics to accomplish this task. I am encouraged by the planning, but until the robotics are fully developed, we're going to be stuck in lava tubes. But again, how long until we have the robotics necessary to even explore and map them out?
I have an idea that I have been pondering for years and wondered if this would work in 0 g space. Make a doubled walled tent made of whatever material that would hold up well in space. Ok, picture a doubled wall tent with about a 2" gap between the two walls of the tent, and put small nylon or any other material cords randomly through out the structure to keep the two walls the same with apart from each other. Now fill this gap between the two walls with spray fome insulation so that it will form a polystyrene wall inside the two layers of the tent.The little ropes between the two layers will direct the foam to expand laterally within the two walls and make the walls somewhat even size.Small hollow tubes could run between the two walls with little holes in the sides of the tubes to distribute the foam more evenly. This would be also useful here on earth as well,as easy structures that may be in hard to reach locations, What does any one think? Could this work? .
When I read it, I remember my cleanroom design project, I don't know if that's what you mean but I did doubled-wall for an air space and polyesterene material but no nylon thing on it plus cleanroom is pressurized and had comfort temperature of 25 degree celsius. Not quite sure if we we're doing it right. That's what comes to my mind in what you said. And cleanroom is used to manufacturing spacecraft and electronics to avoid dust and microparticles.
Good video, but these habitats are very small, their inhabitants would go crazy in a short time ... xd. Although, if they intend to establish a concrete factory there, I suppose they would soon assemble a metal foundry. which would allow domes and larger structures. I have always believed that the authentic exploration of space will begin from the moon. It is there where the largest spacecraft can be manufactured. (precisely because of its low gravity) ...
Looking good for a second or even third-generation habitat...If you have ever spent time on a construction site, machines are constantly breaking down, equipment isn't working, and parts don't fit....to build this complicated a design IMO will need Humans on site. Again IMO I'm a big believer in the KISS method as whatever can go wrong ...WILL GO WRONG
OK----------- Love your design. But you need to use Navel style stair/ladders that take up a quarter of the floor space by being a lot steeper and narrow.
@@Alignedtop LOL------------ Well now. It is obvious you have never lived in tight quarters with a hundred other crewmen where every square foot of space is premium and not to be wasted like half the habs in this series. So go back to your mansion and servants and let the real designers who know how to live, work.
I would get rid of the stairs. A ladder would use much less space and at Mars gravity it's really not that much effort. Only problem is carrying stuff to the upper level.
I wonder what houses would look like on earth if we approached designing them in the same way people are designing habitats on places like mars. Efficient, low cost, functional and so on...
Better idea. Step 1: Find lava tubes large enough to hold housing and thick enough to block radiation. Step 2: Inflate pre-fab housing built and tested on earth (and then the moon) inside lava tubes. This would give radiation, meteor and dust storm protection while keeping the costs of the first settlement "relatively" low. I don't disagree with the approach in the video, it's just not really needed for the first settlement.
When a small part on your Rube Goldberg printer fails and, suddenly, you've got an extremely expensive pile of useless junk 40 million miles from Earth.
The question is can we make fully sustainable homes here in earth which can last at least a year without help then we can think of such prototypes on Mars
@@lhtyeehaw1319 They tested it on earth, it was fine. To the initial commenter, ingenuity has results that can be copied on earth. Not the other way around. Poor people have no money for design and tech specs I'm afraid.. So first Mars then we'll build your mum a house
The next great leap for human kind is learning how to clean up after ourselves, not shit the bed and stop breaking things. Human kind is a 4 year old at best.
have you calculated, how much energy it needs to 3D print 1 m3 of opaque and 1m3 of transparent wall or ceiling structure under the conditions on Mars and how much on Earth?
@@JoseDuarte-zv2xx or a rough estimation? I think , this is an important issue, since energy is a very rare resource on Mars. As long as you don´t have a very big nuclear power plant
Wow. Those silos have to be almost 50 feet tall. Those would be thousands of pounds if designed for the same use on Earth so imagine the cost of creating them of materials light enough to be affordably sent to Mars. Is this really the best design for the limited resources that will be used to set up colonies on Mars? Personally, I like the competing team's idea of swarmbots that can be combined like legos to form the multitude of machinery needed for large earth-pod like structures on Mars. It is fortunate the materials needed for a useful form of concrete are available on Mars, my question on the point is, just how easy is this material to harvest? This would apply to any team as it is clear, be it through direct of indirect requirements created by the bid documents, any system will need to use Martian sourced materials. There is a reason miners on Earth are either basically slave labor or are very highly paid. Not only is mining typically dangerous for both man and machine, it is invariably wrought with unexpected obstacles left and right regardless of how much science you throw at it while trying to get a perfect picture of your work site. Now magnify this through the lens of the mining site being located on another planet. A planet that most likely lacks any form of human labor during the construction phase, with an environment more inhospitable to machines than any mine site on Earth, and now you have a real problem to solve. A problem it seems no team so far has directly addressed and one I hope the people spending our tax dollars are carefully contemplating when reviewing this team proposals.
What are the chances the winning teams system will be able to a) locate, b) reach, c) harvest, d) transport, e) refine, f) store, g) maintain equipment, h) replace equipment, etc. etc. etc.? Even with my limited experience at working in a mine, (mind you this was a very shallow lead mine from the 19th century or so which had been restored as part of a museum decades before I began employ there) it takes a LOT of critical thinking skills to overcome the seemingly endless supply of suprises you encounter digging, be it on the surface or underground. Even with current and near-future technology, it strikes me that even with the data we do and will have on the surface of Mars and the immediate subsurface, these are only samples. Remember the 2016 Presidential election polls? Ya, that could happen on Mars. By all means please try, I think it will work, I am just curious from a logistical standpoint given the knowledge and experiences I have had with harvesting natural resources, constructing in non-traditional environments, etc.
Another pie-in-the-sky, ridiculous, impractical, expensive scheme designed to make some company rich. When the Pilgrams came here from Europe they didn't bring along a 3d printer and some computer driven robot dune buggies. They brought some whiskey and beer, along with axes and guns, and built houses from natural resources that were already here. That's the kind of solution needed- build from resources already there with simple tools and good old imagination. And some whiskey and beer wouldn't hurt either!
The next level:
Location: Arctic/Antarctica.
3D print a Mars habitat on site. Immediately move into it. Live there for two years.
Good proof of concept.
th-cam.com/video/XWJ-sE08ASg/w-d-xo.html
I think Kim Stanley Robinson, author of at least three novels dealing with Mars, considered Antarctica as a testing ground.
and then do it on the moon 2 years
Looks like getting the printing system to Mars is the first big challenge. That thing looks huge.
the rovers that were already sent aren't small either. The printing system can be sent in pieces to be mounted by the first colonists/smaller robots
@@fabian9256
Yes they will be doing that.
Oh hell just live in spacex starship until the habit is built. Starship is such a game changer!!
@@mmjnice97
This concept seems hard to get for many people.
The idea of 3D printing is so we don't need any people on mars until the habitat is built! This design is not even feasible on Earth at the moment!
I'd be interested to see this technology used on terra firma like a desert location to confirm long term structural integrity with earth's own erosion before attempting this off planet. The gradation of glass to concrete is a beautiful concept.
IMO...they need to test everything in low gravity as found on Mars...For instance ...how will the printed slurry settle under less gravity...will the plumbing get clogged up in the printer, what happens if the printer takes a time-out and all the slurry starts to set-up...What can go wrong will go wrong
5:16 People go to all the way to Mars and they're STILL on their gd cellphones...
I think making caves is the best way to colonize mars
thermonuclear drills etc
Great plan.
This has to be the most artsy, overly complicated system I could think off. It must have dozens of failure points that can only be repaired in earth.
A nuclear furnace to bake bricks would be simple and they could be stacked by hand if necessary.
An advantage of this construction method is that the habitats can be constructed with almost no human intervention. So they can be constructed and tested before the population gets to Mars. Construction by hand would need lots of workers and where would they stay while constructing?
Pretty good project ;D
MY BRAIN IT HURTS FROM ALL THIS INFORMATION!
The stairs should have fewer higher steps if you account for Mars gravity.
Our legs are still the same length as they were on earth
You would still be doing the same amount of work against gravity whether you have more or fewer steps.
@@lhtyeehaw1319 our legs length is not the binding restriction in the height choice, but the force you need to excert to climb each step. Most people can step on a chair but climbing a stair of several "chair seat height" steps would be too much on Earth. Also steps need a minimum detph for step security. Hence a shorter stair design with fewer higher steps sesms logical in an habitat on Mars where surface area is so limited.
@@JonatanDanon okay, makes sense
You haven't watched big bang theory then. The change in a steps height by only a few millimetres can cause a person to trip. Our minds are habitually trained to lift our foot a certain height. Gravity wont change that. It's foot eye co-ordination. But I understand the space requirements you mentioned and we might have to learn to step differently.
Well thought out design. Best one I have seen so far. Question would be mining or extracting the raw materials from the surface and delivery to the printers storage facility.
That's right. NASA has another challenge to address that problem.
I think any colony would have to have substantial underground facilities, especially if lava tubes can be located near a water ice source.
Larger underground bases, connected to above ground buildings would have the radiation shielding and ability to expand easily, plus the risk of depressurisation would be manageable.
A subterranean transport system, connecting several surface stations would make travelling between various facilities safer, less resource hungry and less vulnerable to weather and road/rail obscuration due to sandstorms.
Vast lava tubes are thought to exist on Mars, and their benefits should not be neglected by humans used to living above ground.
"If you build it, they will come" - Field of Dreams
if we start on mars we need to go underground first. they'd have ever expanding tunneling and it'll provide safety from those planet wide sand storms and if they had starship launch from a subsurface cargo bay humanity would thrive long enough to start building on the surface. this current idea is cool but so much can go wrong with the robotic printing since the ground has to be level and im sure the wind could be problematic even with a machine that large, at least underground the worst you can get is the structure collapsing but i doubt it would plus you'd already have the materials to build on the surface with actual engineers
Your onto something there. It's a lot more feasible to use a digging and tunneling method. We would need that machinery in the first place to mine the materials necessary to build any of these structures via 3D printing. Going underground would be better for the radiation levels and sand storms like you say. The idea of getting that giant machine to Mars along with all the other massive machines to mine and process the materials before you even start is idiotic. Just makes more sense to start with the easiest method to get a foothold on the planet
How did you not win the challenge???!!! This idea is brillant!
I think we should have a design that doesnt use much 3d printing and take advantage of Martian Cave systems
why not both
So, this design seems very well thought out and designed. Other than the necessity for water in the curing process, what were the critieria in which ths design failed relative to AI Spacefactory?
Wow that rover is massive
How exactly were you planning on getting that monolithic machine to Mars to print those habitats?
By wagon.
@@OneMeanArtist Lmao omg
i like it but how does the printer test out when printing in a -32* temp because the nozzle and air around it wouldnt it freeze up and or not layer bond well
not much air?
I want one of these to be built on Earth. And then I want to live in it.
Or we could take a Boring machine and live underground, just got to find a guy with a rocket company and a Boring company...
Just don't let the AIs kill us all. We need to elongate humanities time window to own cyber trucks.
@@nicholaspatton1742 AI today is quite getting scarier, take a look at Alphastar Deepmind AI in Starcraft. Imagine this kind of AI tech applied in Martian Robots. XD
OUT OF CURIOSITY CAN THIS BE ADAPTED AND MODIFIED TO CREATING UNDERWATER HABITATS?
Very good. People like you make us dream some more, and sometimes make them come true! Good work! RObots should be sent frist to build shelters and other amenities. Walking androids and other robots are almost ready. So logically we could colonize Mars between 2040 and 2050 if we wish for it. A moon station to begin with and simplify cargo would be a smart move.
@MrFr0stycave I don't think the main problem will be dust has our smartphones and smart watches are already equipted with water and dust resistance. The problems will be on the side of landing on Mars, but because there is a Carbon Gaz based atmosphere on Mars, cargos should be sent first before any living humans. THey are already testing parachutes for mars. See this video th-cam.com/video/AcAgnQ9K7UY/w-d-xo.html We should build a base on the Moon to better prepare those cargos. now I don't know if the Moon can be mined for minerals like metals. That would help greatly.
glad i helped :P
Is it possible to use all the plastic here on earth to build home on mars?
They should build a working demo in Antarctic to prove the concept
When can I move in?
It looks like as 3 google home speakers
China has a ship that is the precursor for the system that will probably actually be used to build habitats. Not just on Mars.
This looks like something SpaceX starship could lift easily
Will this hold inside air pressure. If it doesn't, then 3d printing of buildings on Mars seems overcomplicated. Much simpler is pouring gravel over pressurised vessels placed in dugouts.
If you know the atmospheric *pressure of Mars, then you will have an idea how much internal pressure should be applied for that kind of structure to maintain an equilibrium, so it does not crack. Further, closed and controlled environment have leakage allowance for good reason.
Great...only concern is the thus far evidence free archibabble about how uplifting these structures will be. What kind of systematic research has been done to assess the relationships between these habitats & human responses to them? The concept is, however sound. Just wish the typical archibabble at the end of this video had been left out.
Have they considered the differential pressure inside and outside the habitat. Too lazy to google the ground level pressure of Mars, but i am under the impression the Martian atmosphere is at a much lower pressure than that of Earth at ocean level.
probably
Strong Astroneer vibes…
To truly make it work, we need to send almost sentient robots to Mars. They would be tasked with finding these indigenous materials, and constructing villages in advance of human visits.
biggest robot ever created
This is a massive project. Very ambitious and it would be a true engineering marvel, if they were able to build and prototype it here on earth. But that’s just it, isn’t it. You not only have to construct and test this vehicle (witch looks to be around the size of a large mining dump truck) but then you have to launch it on multiple rocks. There’s no way one star ship can handle this payload. This project from my prospective needs stream lining maybe have the printing arm be the only thing tracking along out there, and have a hoses to the material storage. I dont know it just seems like they are thinking the red planet is more of an ideal place to build than it actually is.
oh and you guys and AI space factory need to come together then space x to get you guys there i see potential as as a three one can focus on habitat, transportation and the mission itself. the materials selected are good this how i see it happening,
space x gets you there, you guys get the a massive main shell printed about 600mm thick, AI space factory creates the interior at the same time after a level of the main shell has been printed, then the combined logistics arrive and then a super habitat has been created.
He’s saying leisure like leesure
Have you considered how much power would be need for this?
We could probably meet the requirements tbh
There sure was a distinct lack of automated mining equipment in this presentation...and a whole lot of moving parts. Are they gonna send a maintenance crew as well?
There will be a population of 100 - 200 people on Mars, before they can think about printing habitats.
The first settlers on Mars will live in SpaceX Starships. These ships will be either in vertical or horizontal position.
I think it looks small for a life of at leat 2 years in only 4 modules... I guess there should be ways to have a continuous construction of new modules.. just the perspective of having a new module built some time ahead will garantee the sanity of everyone on board. People confined to a planet in which they can´t go outside and play might no be very healthy mentally! Being confined here on Earth as an experiment, there is a garantee in the back of the subjets´ heads that they can break free at any moment.. this is a total different perspective.
mulitpule things one is the seals how can they be fully sealed when they are put in lst one worng movement of them being put in could case strutural failure and more problems later on in the structures life, another is how do you find and mine the materials and how do you process the differnt grains of the dirt to the correct size for proper printing as if the peice is to big it could clog up the system making it inoperable
You are good at finding problems. But you are not good at thinking about solutions or formulating proper sentences.
@@3gunslingers im dyslexic mate also i havent got a single idea of how they could fix it, im just pointing out a possible problem that they could improve on
@@thebritishjay955
_" im dyslexic mate"_ I'm sorry to hear that.
Punctuation would help for a start.
Ooo did u hear Jonny fly away again with no space suite on tryna get back to earth hopes he makes it 👽
What bothers me, Mars doesn't have flowing water. In other words, digging and using compressed soil would probably make a little more sense. Dig deep enough and Geo-thermal heat could be utilized.
Your right about the digging but the core of mars is way cooler than ours that's why she is a dead planet
It would take around 10 to 15 years to make this kind of mega machine to launch.
Did they mention, if they tried this 3D printing in the same conditions as Mars? Thin air and low temperature, except for gravity they should be able to do a good earth bound simulation. If you could show us that it would be a lot less "pie in the sky"
Did they mention, if they tried this 3D printing in the same conditions as Mars?
Congratulations, you've just asked a question without it being a real question.
Good job.
Pardon my naïveté, but for Mars and several other bodies in the solar system I'd prefer subterranean construction, as in lava tubes on Earth's Moon, to protect from the outer environment. If we were to build on the surface, I'd prefer a structure reminiscent of an iceberg, where most of the ice is below the surface of the water -- that is, most floors of the building would be below ground level, again as protection from the outer environment.
I like the idea of printed habitats, but I'd like to see the gathering of regolith for building material done partly as excavation to make room for the underground floors.
Just rent a couple of caves from the Martians.
Upside down flower pots on mars baked by the climate, but where is the water to wet the clay and make the pots.
Can these be built here cheaply to help with housing shortages?
That is the orginal goal of the research that we continue working on.
@@JoseDuarte-zv2xx Already happening in Russia.
Glad you mentioned it! Creating synergy between supporting humanity on earth and space shall have the greater results. Building habitats in all extreme environments on earth will raise the quality of life on earth and teach us how to live on other planets.
Ya man, we'll get that house done for your mum as soon as we can.
Regards
NASA
There are more than enough housing , just get money first
you 3d printed literally everything lol
So for now, we've got dancing robots. I believe it's going to take decades, if not a generation to develop the AI and robotics to accomplish this task. I am encouraged by the planning, but until the robotics are fully developed, we're going to be stuck in lava tubes. But again, how long until we have the robotics necessary to even explore and map them out?
I have an idea that I have been pondering for years and wondered if this would work in 0 g space. Make a doubled walled tent made of whatever material that would hold up well in space. Ok, picture a doubled wall tent with about a 2" gap between the two walls of the tent, and put small nylon or any other material cords randomly through out the structure to keep the two walls the same with apart from each other. Now fill this gap between the two walls with spray fome insulation so that it will form a polystyrene wall inside the two layers of the tent.The little ropes between the two layers will direct the foam to expand laterally within the two walls and make the walls somewhat even size.Small hollow tubes could run between the two walls with little holes in the sides of the tubes to distribute the foam more evenly. This would be also useful here on earth as well,as easy structures that may be in hard to reach locations, What does any one think? Could this work?
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It could work. But it's far more efficiënt to use as much surface material as possible.
There's a company called Bigelow Aerospace, you should check 'em out.
Edit: here ya go!
th-cam.com/video/5nE3UO1kqv0/w-d-xo.html
Bigelow.....the problem has already been solved.
Will
Even before Bigelow there was this idea: app.box.com/s/jix7zu3wbp03a6gdc8k1qcei00oa29xb an expandable habitat for the Apollo lander.
When I read it, I remember my cleanroom design project, I don't know if that's what you mean but I did doubled-wall for an air space and polyesterene material but no nylon thing on it plus cleanroom is pressurized and had comfort temperature of 25 degree celsius. Not quite sure if we we're doing it right. That's what comes to my mind in what you said. And cleanroom is used to manufacturing spacecraft and electronics to avoid dust and microparticles.
The surface of Mars is subjected to huge amounts of radiation … is this a potential source of energy for a fledgling colony?
Good video, but these habitats are very small, their inhabitants would go crazy in a short time ... xd.
Although, if they intend to establish a concrete factory there, I suppose they would soon assemble a metal foundry. which would allow domes and larger structures.
I have always believed that the authentic exploration of space will begin from the moon. It is there where the largest spacecraft can be manufactured. (precisely because of its low gravity) ...
ppl live in smaller spaces on earth tbh .
Marscrete™
looks livable pick me to go to mars :)
Looking good for a second or even third-generation habitat...If you have ever spent time on a construction site, machines are constantly breaking down, equipment isn't working, and parts don't fit....to build this complicated a design IMO will need Humans on site. Again IMO I'm a big believer in the KISS method as whatever can go wrong ...WILL GO WRONG
The thing to remember is that machine has to get to mars and that not going to happen. A blowup with interlocking tiles on top. hand made tiles,,
There is not a lot of room for bringing paper books over... just as nasa shifted towards digital uploads of movies to ISS instead of bringing up DVDs.
would you be willing to contribute financially to a shelter being printed on earth?
Way cool video for something that will never happen.
As part of the innovation, I recommend you to undesign it.
They fail to realize the flaw in their design... Cork Trees are a protected species on Mars!
OK----------- Love your design. But you need to use Navel style stair/ladders that take up a quarter of the floor space by being a lot steeper and narrow.
No ones asking you Larry.
@@Alignedtop LOL------------ Well now. It is obvious you have never lived in tight quarters with a hundred other crewmen where every square foot of space is premium and not to be wasted like half the habs in this series. So go back to your mansion and servants and let the real designers who know how to live, work.
Well the humans in this look almost suicidal
Why not the moon?
Do it
No planet can replace earth becuz it was gifted by our god and we move free on earth But other planet we don't have freedom
I would get rid of the stairs. A ladder would use much less space and at Mars gravity it's really not that much effort. Only problem is carrying stuff to the upper level.
You can always use a pulley system, considering that the gravity is low on Mars
and don't forget print me some blow-up dolls--which should inflate automatically
I wonder what houses would look like on earth if we approached designing them in the same way people are designing habitats on places like mars. Efficient, low cost, functional and so on...
cardboard and glue in usa , Brick and mortar in EU
Better idea. Step 1: Find lava tubes large enough to hold housing and thick enough to block radiation. Step 2: Inflate pre-fab housing built and tested on earth (and then the moon) inside lava tubes. This would give radiation, meteor and dust storm protection while keeping the costs of the first settlement "relatively" low. I don't disagree with the approach in the video, it's just not really needed for the first settlement.
Moon doesn't have lava tubes.
CRP en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_lava_tube. I understand though that not all rocky planets will have lava tubes.
It would be good quesstion wether mars entripise will be//
Jesus, dont you have spell check? 🤣🤣🤣
@@Alignedtop good question, I write faster than the spell check thing... But I'm getting older and don't hit the keyboard buttons right enough...
Just 3D print some brick molds and send some Masons over there. ;O)-
Your 3d printer vehicle seems to be too big to be send to mars
Good luck 3D printing those stairs though...
Build one on earth and see if it works cut off all the air and supplies
kind of hard to cut of someone's air on earth lol
Eliminate the stairs and use brass pole and a lifting pad...or at least use a captain ladder...
When a small part on your Rube Goldberg printer fails and, suddenly, you've got an extremely expensive pile of useless junk 40 million miles from Earth.
What if it rains and the crater gets filled up.
and your reply wins an award for being the most hilarious and ignorant, as in Mars there is no liquid water, thus, rain can never happen.
@@andrekolesnik2376 so it's lead to believe.
The question is can we make fully sustainable homes here in earth which can last at least a year without help then we can think of such prototypes on Mars
Earth has a thicker atmosphere, the house would have more pressure on it
@@lhtyeehaw1319
They tested it on earth, it was fine.
To the initial commenter, ingenuity has results that can be copied on earth. Not the other way around. Poor people have no money for design and tech specs I'm afraid..
So first Mars then we'll build your mum a house
@@Alignedtop I dont think you understood what I was saying, if it can stand earth's atmosphere, than it can definitely handle anything less
The next great leap for human kind is learning how to clean up after ourselves, not shit the bed and stop breaking things. Human kind is a 4 year old at best.
So they are going to ship tree bark/cork to mars.
Corknis used in the heat shield of space ships. It would be recycled.
Ilon Mask help us!!!!
Bedroom needs to be large,,small single bed is no good if intertaining!
Oxygen Not Included in real life
have you calculated, how much energy it needs to 3D print 1 m3 of opaque and 1m3 of transparent wall or ceiling structure under the conditions on Mars and how much on Earth?
No, not yet!
@@JoseDuarte-zv2xx or a rough estimation? I think , this is an important issue, since energy is a very rare resource on Mars. As long as you don´t have a very big nuclear power plant
Wow. Those silos have to be almost 50 feet tall.
Those would be thousands of pounds if designed for the same use on Earth so imagine the cost of creating them of materials light enough to be affordably sent to Mars.
Is this really the best design for the limited resources that will be used to set up colonies on Mars?
Personally, I like the competing team's idea of swarmbots that can be combined like legos to form the multitude of machinery needed for large earth-pod like structures on Mars. It is fortunate the materials needed for a useful form of concrete are available on Mars, my question on the point is, just how easy is this material to harvest?
This would apply to any team as it is clear, be it through direct of indirect requirements created by the bid documents, any system will need to use Martian sourced materials.
There is a reason miners on Earth are either basically slave labor or are very highly paid. Not only is mining typically dangerous for both man and machine, it is invariably wrought with unexpected obstacles left and right regardless of how much science you throw at it while trying to get a perfect picture of your work site.
Now magnify this through the lens of the mining site being located on another planet.
A planet that most likely lacks any form of human labor during the construction phase, with an environment more inhospitable to machines than any mine site on Earth, and now you have a real problem to solve.
A problem it seems no team so far has directly addressed and one I hope the people spending our tax dollars are carefully contemplating when reviewing this team proposals.
What are the chances the winning teams system will be able to a) locate, b) reach, c) harvest, d) transport, e) refine, f) store, g) maintain equipment, h) replace equipment, etc. etc. etc.?
Even with my limited experience at working in a mine, (mind you this was a very shallow lead mine from the 19th century or so which had been restored as part of a museum decades before I began employ there) it takes a LOT of critical thinking skills to overcome the seemingly endless supply of suprises you encounter digging, be it on the surface or underground.
Even with current and near-future technology, it strikes me that even with the data we do and will have on the surface of Mars and the immediate subsurface, these are only samples.
Remember the 2016 Presidential election polls? Ya, that could happen on Mars.
By all means please try, I think it will work, I am just curious from a logistical standpoint given the knowledge and experiences I have had with harvesting natural resources, constructing in non-traditional environments, etc.
if we can buil a colony on earth in the desert with limited resources than transfer the to Mars
Something is up with this exodus to Planet Mars🤔🤔
Tell me your thoughts
Ready for Mars, but can't even fix downtown L.A.
On the real
Why not make it in pyramid shape, it's a solid shape and blocks of radiation
lol you can't even put housing on those smuck in California and New York
gravity btw
Another pie-in-the-sky, ridiculous, impractical, expensive scheme designed to make some company rich. When the Pilgrams came here from Europe they didn't bring along a 3d printer and some computer driven robot dune buggies. They brought some whiskey and beer, along with axes and guns, and built houses from natural resources that were already here. That's the kind of solution needed- build from resources already there with simple tools and good old imagination. And some whiskey and beer wouldn't hurt either!
isnt earth similar to earth
Normally.
@Alexander Markland You first. I'm busy dealing with my age.
@Alexander Markland not what I meant