I always liked how the dad said "ok" when his daughter said she hated them. He knew the consequences of the choice and was, tearfully, willing to accept them. He'd rather have his daughter alive and hating him than liking him and dead.
@@funkyreapercat5280 gonna say that next time my parents try to make me do my homework. if they try to force me what if i kill myself, then i wont do my homework and i will be dead!
@@AliceTheSpiderby lacking trust in those who know more than you, you will always be distrustful. just because it's clear gravity exists, why trust that?
The fetch scene with the dog is phenomenal. House uses "exceptional" as a term to validate her multiple times before. And finally, when he wants her to break a rule, he ends it with "you're not exceptional." At the same time throwing the line for the dog to fetch. It symbolized the proverb - Hook, line and sinker. Very aptly captured.
so the dog was essentially a visual metaphor to house emotionally manipulating her to basically do what he wanted her to do? ... i literally could not think of a way to word that to make it sound less ick but you get what i mean
I thought you would talk about how Hugh Laurie talks to the dog lmao Only people who really enjoy and love dogs use that tone of "gOod bOy" because they know how good that boy is
@@Dizaster1995 don't know if you've watched the series but house manipulates Masters, probably about 80% of the time. The 20 percent remaining is the times when she is kept out of their plans to avoid snitching
She could still, you know, set the world record for youngest person to sail around the world with only one arm. I imagine the competition for that is far less severe. And arguably the accomplishment is even more impressive.
You can’t sail like that with one arm. I used to race small two-man sailboats and even then, you couldn’t have someone with only one arm. You need one arm to set the tiller and the other to trim the sail, even in a fast one-man boat on a closed course, never mind an ocean-rated boat. Sailboat racing and solo sailing are genuinely incredibly dangerous with the amount that can go wrong and how quickly it can go wrong, you absolutely NEED both arms, to be in incredibly good shape, and to have your wits about you at all times. It’d be almost impossible to even craft a dedicated prosthesis, because you need both arms to be able to do each job when you tack upwind and move side-to-side. It’s also far too dangerous to have a prosthetic that attaches you to the sheets or tiller to manipulate. You’d basically need a full-on bionic replacement with the reflexes and dexterity on-par with the original. Having your arm amputated above the elbow would ABSOLUTELY kill your solo sailing career
depends on circumstances, but, w/ practice, she could probably do it, definitely. thing is, thats not what shes thinking. shes a stupid teen (and i say that very affectionately) that is only focusing on the fact her parents and the doctors went against her wishes. maybe she doesnt KNOW she can be a paraolympian, or maybe she believes ppl will look down on her or pity her. shes young, she doesnt understand theres still hope for her dream
Doing the right thing won't always make you happy but when it comes down to questioning your actions you'll find no regrets. That's the silver lining & a source of confidence.
The difference between being a matured adult who knows life isn't fair.. and someone expecting life to be fair because they did the right thing. Movies tend to imply the "good guys" have a happily ever after. In reality... all of us know that's nonsense. And watching the light leave a young adult is unpleasant. We all remember when our light died.
@@mikayla_collie I can't relate to that, she threw her new career for that ? after all the investment. Just because you can't be happy with your decisions. Maybe one day you grow up to be an adult. We do what needs to be done, not what makes us happy. Also, being happy isn't having fulfillment, duty is what creates fulfillment in life, not being happy. Happiness is just a silly emotion for kids, I'm not sad either, or angry, those are also emotions, emotions are like that, you feel them and they're gone, just like being thirsty, you're sad, have a piece of cake, now you're happy. You might think you're happy, but you will know the lost potential, the thing that never was. Happiness is a lie.
I liked her i wish she would have stayed longer or maybe returned later, cuz she did bring a new dynamic to the group, they were all used to being shades of grey but she was alot more foolish in her youthfulness like she hadn’t been beaten down by the world the way everyone else already had
the fact she left and refused to get turned into house like chase or foreman was the only right way of ending her character honestly, she stuck to her ideals the entire time and didn't fold, her staying would've gone against it
House could have told her that most of the times he breaks the rules it's for the health and sometimes happiness of the patient, often a cheery result.(which is the truth) But sometimes they break the rules and the situation doesn't get happier, sometimes patients also die, Masters can only handle rule-breaking for Grand Results, not middle-of-the-road or bad ones.
Allegedly as she turned around he said "Look at the pretty flowers" pulled out a 9mm and blew her brains out!! True story which cannot be independently verified.
Also, I would have lured the doctor nearer to me, faking I would like to "thank her" and then biting off some of her fingers promising I'll come back as soon as I can and take away "the rest". So much wasted potential in writing.
@@DoubleStrike-ye6tw Wow, how boring. It is a TV drama, remember? Also, simply suing won't bring the same feeling of satisfaction and rightful revenge. ;)
Ngl, going through the nursing program there was a number of times our instructors would start something with "Okay, so this is how people will want things done, this is according to the rules and if you get DHEC/other corporations in, this is how you're going to do it... But otherwise, once you'll hit the floor, what you ACTUALLY want to do..."
That's rather frightening, telling a bunch of young medical students to ignore their training and pretend to be Dr. House. I suppose it works until they end up killing someone.
@@Lorrdd This happens in every career and industry. There's the "by the book way" and there's the "get 💩 done" way. What do you think managers, customers and bosses praise more?
Same thing what happened to House's leg muscle...he did not want it cut out they were doing a vein bypass. He was under and there were complications so his wife gave the Dr permission to remove the muscle. No wonder he doesnt want that student.
It's not a downfall but the opposite of it, everyone in House's team eventually gets used to doing illegal stuff and even harming the patients. Masters realised she couldn't and left right on time, she'll surely be a brilliant doctor regardless.
I mean it depends on your view. If you think about it, it also foreshadows House’s change, especially since the finale was coming. Slight Spoiler if you didn’t watch the show to the end: He ultimately gives up being an exceptional doctor to be happy.
Almost a decade ago, I rigged the minecraft install on the computer that my nephew played on to play that little song/phrase every time he would die in minecraft. It was a real hoot.
A surgeon, here: it doesn't matter if Master saved the girl's life. You cannot lie like that to a patient. If a patient doesn't understand that by acting in a dangerous way they could die, it's your duty to talk to them and do everything you can to make them understand. The excuse "I did what I have to do" and "I saved the patient's life" are not enough if you decide for them. It doesn't matter if you know better. It is the doctor who decides what's the right way to treat a patient but it must be the patient the one who decides whether they want to be treated or not. Edit: first of all thank you for all the likes. Second of all, to ask those who feel the need to point out that it is a TV series: yes, I know it is a TV series and so it doesn't have to be realistic. I've written this comment because, despite this, I wanted to share my opinion, like everyone else does in YT. Please, you don't need to remind me that it is fake and that to expect it to be realistic is a waste of time, because by the same reasoning, it would be as much a waste of time watching the TV series in the first place. Watching fiction and sharing opinions about it is normal and fun. Thank you again for the likes
That would be slightly more relevant if the patient weren't a minor giving the parents the ultimate duty to decide the correct coarse of treatment. The parents already knew the doctor was right but they were swayed by their daughter's pleas. Once the doctor faked a condition that could happen at anytime while the girl was alone at sea they made the correct medical decision. It wasn't ethical for sure, but this fiction.
I completely agree with you; it's a matter of respect for human dignity and if the dignity of the patient implies not to be treated, the doctor has to respect that, and not use a trick to get around the fact that the patient has not given consent. For that girl, sailing and that record means everything and to take that away from her would constitute a violation of her human dignity...The young female doctor "did what she had to do" by obtaining consent from the parents even though she must have been aware that this was not what the patient wanted. The problem with House is that he rarely ever considers the patient as a person (as evidenced by his atrocious bedside manner) but is more interested in the disease, which is like a puzzle for him to solve, something that stimulates him on an intellectual level. I think I can count on my right how many times he actually cared for the patient throughout the series. And letting a patient die or take a risk that might cost the patient there life for House means to have capitulated, resulting in his personal pride being hurt. What he does not take into account that by preventing a patient from dying even though it is against that patient's express wishes does not mean to bring back that patient to something that can be considered a "life" for lack of the true quality of life that has been taken away by acting against that patient's wishes. And even the parents should understand that and should not have given their consent behind the daughter's back even though in all probability that would have meant to let their daughter go. To truly love somebody means to be able to let that person go, to respect that person and their express wishes even though it means facing your own loss. Those parents were only afraid of their own loss, their choice was not really focused on their daughter's life. Consequently, they lost her because she told them she hated them. (*I have not seen the entire episode, so is this young woman still a minor or is she of age? And if she had signed a prior declaration such as a DNR they would then not have been able to override her wishes in any case.)
While I think life is precious the fact that they so willingly went against the girl’s wishes and cut off her arm is crazy, As well the lying by the doctor is scary wrong. Imagine a doctor giving you false medical advice because of there own personal feelings.
its easy to go against the girls wishes when its a child obsessing more about some worthless record and throw away her life for it when she's too young to even full comprehend what that means. Thats why parents exist to make choices for there children when they're not developed enough from them.
@@SteOhara okay and what if the doctor did something in your eyes immoral to keep you alive or made the rest of your life so terrible that it’s just constant pain and you end up ending yourself anyways.
If the "lie" or "choice" made by a doctor saved your life, I doubt you wouldn't "like" that. It's easier to draw conclusions because the situation is hypothetical... until it happens to you for real.
Don't worry. What happened in this episode is incredibly unethical and 99% of real doctors would never pull this stunt because it opens way for a malpractice suit that would very well end their careers.
I made a longer comment about this, but here's the shorter version: did House *really* just endorse Masters doing to that girl what his (at first) hated ex-girlfriend Stacy did to *him* - i.e., went against his wishes as his proxy while he was in a procedural (i.e., planned and totally safe) coma and had part of his leg amputated despite him *explicitly* saying he didn't want that?! You know, that event that *ruined his life* and why he experiences chronic pain, has to use a cane, and is miserable and addicted to Vicodin? Did the writers *really* just show House *endorsing* almost that *exact* same action?! Oof!
Interesting point! If I remember correctly, his wife was given the choice to either amputate the whole leg or risk his death. She went for a middle ground and let them amputate the necrotic tissue on his leg which left him with an almost useless limb and in chronic pain. Maybe that's why he hates people who won't make bold decisions. Deep down he knows he'd have been better off if she ignored his wish completely and let them amputate his leg.
@@annaf3915 There was an episode where he was dealing with a woman whose leg was trapped. By the end he admits that he'd probably have been happier had he just accepted the leg being amputated instead of holding onto it.
@@arandombard1197 I've heard these retorts a number of times - including the reference to the Season 6 Finale (titled, "Help Me"), and unfortunately. I'll post the full transcript of what House said to that woman in the season 6 finale in a separate comment, but simply put, House says he regrets not getting amputated *not* because he doesn't think it "would've been fine," but because, in the end, he did *not* get to make the final decision. Specifically, he mentions how trying to keep the leg resulted in the decision being taken *out* of his hands, resulting in the leg *not* being fully amputated and the condition he's in now (which he describes as having a useless leg that does nothing but cause him pain). And yes, note that in that episode, he *convinces* her to change her mind! What he does *not* do is amputate the leg *against* her wishes! So, again, this idea that he "grew" to believe that Stacy had done the right thing is patently false - no, he wishes he'd chosen to amputate it in full, because then he never would've needed to be put into a coma, and Stacy *never* would've been able to make the choice for him (i.e., exactly what Masters just did)!
@@arandombard1197 Here's the full transcript of what House says to Hanna in the Season 6 finale. House: You asked me how I'd hurt my leg. I had a blood clot, and the muscle was dying. I had all these doctors telling me I should amputate and I said no, and they did this very risky operation. I almost died. Hanna: But you saved your leg. House: I wish I hadn't. They cut out a chunk of muscle about the size of my fist, and they left me with this mutilated, useless thing. I'm in pain. Every day. And it changed me. Made me a harder person. A worse person. And now, now I'm alone. You don't wanna be like me. You've got a husband who loves you, you have friends, you can start a family. You have a life. And this; this is just a leg. Again, a reminder, he said "no" because he wanted to save the *whole* leg (he did *not* choose the "middle ground" option and *never* would've). The operation only happened because *Stacy* went against his wishes because he asked to be put into a coma to sleep off the pain (and she took advantage of the fact that she was his proxy and he was unconscious). So, he's *literally* saying here, "if I'd never said 'no,' Stacy wouldn't have been able to make the choice for me and ultimately make the *worst* possible choice."
No, it wasnt. The sitiation is far mar complex - otherwise it wouldnt be a drama. She absolutely could have made that record and later have treatment and live - and have both her record and her arm and no trauma and could love her parents unconditionally. Less likely, but not impossible. I also would have liked to have them written for her to later unaliving herself and the parents sue for malpractice.
He he, reality. I had a femur fracture starting at the knee joint that crept up the bone. The marrow leakage caused a massive blockage in my gall bladder. My physician was out of town when the abdominal pain began. The doctor in his stead ordered surgery in two days, found out I hadn't eaten in two days, and then had surgery scheduled as soon as the bloodwork was in. 66% of patients died when the condition was allowed to progress. He reminded me of House. He was insistent, overbearing, yet scientifically correct. I woke up from an 8am surgery at 4pm without a gallbladder and two pins in the fractured bone, not what I expected, but those who cared made sure I lived.
You’re also not 16. Decision-making at 16, along with the myopia of sports? Pretty sure you’re caring about the record over the arm, because 16-year-old basically think they’re invincible, and can’t see the long-term consequences of the arm loss as being important in comparison to the immediate reward of getting that record.
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker nope I could tell your right now. If that happened when I was 16 I wouldn't care about a record. I would care that i lost my arm. No normal person would care about a record over an arm.
@@Patrick1985McMahon If I had the choice to make of: Keep my arm and cancer spreads to the rest of my body and I very likely die vs have my arm amputated and very likely survive, I'd go with the amputation, I wouldn't be happy about it, but I'd at least be much more likely to survive.
@@SilentHotdog28 You missed the point of my post. The girl focused more on winning some event more than loosing an arm. Yes in the situation she was going to lose the arm. but a real person would be more tramatized over losing an arm and wouldn't be focused on an event.
It is the difference between releasing the bird into the sky and watch it inevitably fall down and die after a while. Or cut the wing off and keep it in the house forever.
This episode was stupid, there are surgical treatments for this that don't require you to lose an arm, they can remove the bone and replace it with artificial titanium "bones", even when this epissode was made.
that requires ordering beforehand, they had no authorization or order before this happened and they needed to get rid of the cancer before it moved to an important organ like the lungs or liver, or heaven forbid the brain
With the state of prosthetics today, one can choose to live a normal and productive life. Once PT, exercises and learning with a prosthetic arm are complete, imagine the victory of competing in a sailing race again. Even if not first place, the courage to compete would still be a total winner!
The patient has a Bill of Rights and would/should absolutely sue the hospitals and parents when this type of stuff happens. Whether her life was saved or not, she had the choice of what treatment to get.
If you sue for your life being saved then you deserve to not have it saved. Will I be annoyed if a doctor convinces my wife to have my leg or arm lopped off because it will save my life, sure at first, but at least I will be alive long enough to adapt and enjoy the moments that doctor gave me. Life’s to precious to bicker over something as trivial as a limb.
@@wakcedout No doctor could have convinced her. The doctor manipulated her parents into doing what the doctor wanted. You should accept there are people who much prefer having a short life under their conditions - to having a long life with a disability. It is their choice and their choice only. And you are not in the position to judge them - even if you can't understand them. Their body, their choice.
Spoken like someone who hasn't had to live without one. Not everyone's going to be able to adapt to that. And your a fool if you think that's the case.
@@wakcedout She had the right to choose for herself. The doctors should’ve respected it, end of story. Hers, anyway. You can do what you want to do. That’s the point of an individual patient’s Bill of Rights. 🤷🏽♀️ Edit: typo
Really? That’s how they rolled on House. There are probably a dozen clips on this channel with different members of his team and even him, doing exactly the same thing. Maybe not with an amputation at the end, but forcing a necessary treatment at the end? Absolutely.
If you identify with House, stay far far away from me. I don’t care how “smart” he is or how “right” he can be, when she went to him that final time she was basically pleading for any sort of heart or humanity to come out of his mouth and he physically couldn’t bring himself to do it. She made the right choice leaving that hellscape he created
The idea that kids actually do feel that way about the things they’re pushed into is disgusting. I nearly ended myself when I was a teenager because of playing viola on a professional level. Actors, models, athletes, etc. Kids should be kids for as long as possible, and anyone that thinks otherwise is the problem. There’s too much stress as it is, and life is far too short to take silly things seriously before you’re an adult. Stop making your kids grow up before they should.
People always say how good this show is, and they’re probably right; but based on basically every clip I’ve seen of it, I just can’t personally stand to watch something where I’m meant to agree with characters that are written to be so insanely righteous and on a pedestal that their opinion is the only thing that matters, even when doing highly illegal and morally questionable actions. (double for doctor characters illegally going against patients wishes and their medical ethical code). “So colouring inside the lines is more important to you than saving this girls life?” Erm, YES. You are a terrible doctor if not, and would be fired and prosecuted if found not to be. And I’m meant to just pretend that wouldn’t be the case in order to enjoy the show it would seem.
@@BruceP suspension of disbelief is for "the young and the restless". This show depicts real medical issues, and pushes the boundaries of moral acceptance and value. Your view is subjective, as well as OP's , and they have a justified right to think how they want. Are you against people having freedom of thought? Do we need to see the show as you do? Personally, I can't watch it. The "per episode formula" is too blatant and obvious. By the end of the episode, House is off buying tomatoes or listening to someone explain a story about Wall paper, and it will make House suddenly create the "perfect diagnosis" for the current patient. The "thrilling episodes" that rarely occur are when he has troubles figuring it out and someone else "houses" all over the episode, or a patient doesn't make it. Every episode. Same formula. It eventually feels like a re-run, every day. See? People can have opinions outside yours. Imagine that!
They loved her but they crushed her dream. Is a life without a dream worth living? Honestly I don’t think I would ever talk to my parents if they did this. They kept her alive but they still lost her in the end. Was is really worth it?
Yes it is worth to keep your child alive. She can adjust after grieving her losses and have other dreams. Also what was the child supposed to do after achieving her dream? Kill herself because there is nothing more to do? Dreams can change and be adjusted, a life lost can't be brought back.
Masters was a dumbass. The first time House told her to get lost she should have walked away and let him come back to her. Don't ever let an employer, potential or otherwise, hold your job over you like that.
There needs to be better prosthetics made, and with today's current robotics technology it's starting to happen, that kind of situation wouldn't be as bad if they could replace all their limbs with adequate replacements, even nerve feedback is now possible, and with robotics tech like what EX Robots has, no one would really know that everything is artificial, cause they look that real, combine that with nerve electrode technology and AI to help interpret the signals, and it's more possible, even the sensation of touch is possible although if you have to power down the limb, like for repairs, or to replace a part, powering it back up would give you the pins and needles sensation as it's connected to sensory nerves, there's no reason a robotics company couldn't also have a prosthetics division as the motion and physical aspects would be applied the same to both fields.
Fun fact, the intern at the very beginning of the clip that asked if Masters had talked to House is Jen Landon. The same woman who plays Teeter on Yellowstone.
I do not blame her one bit for being pissed off. First off, sure it is the doctor who decides what the right way to treat a patient is... BUT it must be the up to the patient to decides whether they want to be treated in that way or not. Otherwise you are looking at a rightfully appointed lawsuit. Even if the person is dying, they have the bodily right to refuse treatment or not have something particular done to them. I realize this is a TV show, I am actually a huge fan of House, grew up with it. But things like this do grind my gears. If I had a limb removed without my consent or even consulting me first, oh yeah I would be absolutely furious, cause you can't undo a procedure like that. "Well I saved the patience life" and "you don't always get what you want" isn't something that holds up in court.
But they are wrong to take that decision from her. Only argument I can think of is that ultimately she was not conscious to receive information about the context, so she in effect wasn't available when the decision needed to be re evaluated.
@@SavantPete Yes, and that seemed to not have been the case. She absolutely could have competed and then have a chemo and have the record and her arm. With a little bit of luck.
I would never forgive them, if I were her. I'd rather accomplish my life goal and die shortly after than live another 60 years unable to do what I love. It was selfish and evil. A complete violation of her autonomy.
Please no. I don't want show where House would be constantly put down and "shown his place" by some generic "genius strong independent woman". And how would you even fit much of season 1-2 Foreman jokes in today's culture environment. Lot things has to change before we would be ready for House M.D. revival.
@@williameckhart8263 How would they even do it though? If it's a continuation instead of a complete reboot, House is suppose to be dead and if he came back he wouldn't be able to practice medicine again cause if anyone found out he'd most likely end up back in prison. Wilson is dead, cuddy has moved on and his former fellows believe he's dead. Unless he changed his identity and moved to a different state and found another dean of medicine crazy enough to allow him to practice medicine in their hospital it's not happening.
@@Jds87909 continuation is out of question. Original series is defenitely complete and authots said everything they wanted to say. As for reboot. House for me is with Sopranos, Sons of Anarchy, Breaking Bad etc. Those series do not need any reboots. Especially with modern school of writing
10:32 the show could have had a much more interesting ending if every season ended with Dr. House proving to young doctors why he is who he is, but each season the doctor cannot be House. Until there is one that can be, only for House to realize why no one but him can be him.
@@DustinDonald-cz9ot Nowhere NEAR that straightforward. You're still a person when you're a minor. Imagine if your parents decided they wanted to cut you up for spare parts for a sibling (that's a thing that has happened IRL, sadly) that would be horrific torture to do that against someone's wishes, the courts have emancipated minors over that kind of medical abuse. This would be less cut-and-dry because the courts tend to err on the side of life saving procedures, but if the "life saving" results in a completely unacceptable quality of life for the patient who wishes to refuse treatment a court may well grant emancipation, especially if the person in question is near the age of majority anyway. Even with underage people the legal system recognizes a need to balance life-saving care with not creating cruel and unusual situations against people's will. Tl;DR parents are legal gaurdians who can be stripped of that authority, not gods or slave owners.
He saved his daughter, which is noble. But in my opinion he was very selfish. He preferred to see his daughter suffer and deal with the loss of her arm, rather than him suffer and deal with the loss of his daughter.
Wow, so apparently House (read: the writers of the show) completely forgot what Stacy (House's ex-girlfriend who showed up at the end of Season 1) did to him (as seen in flashbacks)! For those who don't remember, House feels chronic pain and lost a huge part of his leg because - against his wishes - his then-girlfriend (whom he named as his proxy) went against his wishes after he was put into a coma to sleep off the pain of the injury (in which he chose not to have his leg amputated and to simply have the clot in his leg removed, despite his life being at serious risk if he went that route) and chose to have the dead tissue removed anyway, despite House *explicitly* saying he did not want that! And now, suddenly, House thinks doing the same thing to someone else is the right call? Just wow! Masters and the parents essentially did to that girl what Stacy did to House! Ok, there was a difference. Stacy never faked an illness (which is a huge violation of the law, and in real life, Masters and House would be in prison)! But the taking advantage of the fact that the patient was unconscious to do something *against* the patient's wishes is exactly what Stacy did to House and why we hated her at first! But yes, if anything, what Masters did was *worse* than what Stacy did! And for those saying, "she would've died if they hadn't," I refer you to what House (read: the writers) said and what that medical student (the one from the class House taught in which he told the story - although, again, read: the writer) said when someone else made the same point. "Well, we don't know that. Maybe (s)he would've been fine!" Same applies here! You don't know if this even actually saved her life! She might've been totally ok, gotten her record, and *then* been able to complete her surgery! The point is, we *don't know* and *that* is why Stacy was hated at first! And that is why *House* hated Stacy - yet now, suddenly, he's actively cheerleading someone doing the same to someone else and telling them "you were right!" You'd think *House* of all people would understand how damaging such an action is to the person on the receiving end of it! Read: you'd think *the writers* would've said, "wait, is House *really* about to actively endorse the same action that ruined *his own* life? The same core action that a huge pillar of this entire show is based on?" And for even those saying, "wait, but in another episode where a woman's leg was crushed under a collapsed building and she needed it amputated to survive, House (who initially stuck with, 'don't let them amputate it' because of what happened to him) had a moment of 'growth' where he finally came to terms with what happened and told the woman, 'you should let them amputate it.'" I understand that, but in *that* case, he didn't go ahead and amputate it *for* her - he *convinced* her *not* to go that route. He made her *change her mind,* and admitted that maybe *he* should have chosen amputation (in part, because he wouldn't have chronic pain now if he'd made that choice *himself* - instead, the choice was made *for* him, and now he feels chronic pain)! So, I'm sorry, but even *that* does not justify this action or make him less of a hypocrite - which is my way of saying, "I think the *writers* forgot about even *that* form of growth he showed!" Simply put, this is so out-of-character for House that I chalk this up to *more* than just "this character is a hypocrite." No, sorry, but this is quite a drastic change of behavior for the character and this is a complete failure in character writing!
It is really not that, having dead tissue in limb that could have healed is different than having a building or cancer growth on limb, latter two were cases which were a race against time and it was crucial to have them removed. This episode was also different for another aspect, that it wasnt about House, but about Masters and about her making hard decisions. House knew she would do something like that and his hands off approach was intentional to enable Masters to build her own character.
@@KrakenIsMahB And? That doesn't at all change the fact that *both* were life-threatening (even in House's case) and in *both* cases, we *don't* know if the patient would've died or not (despite what people, including *you,* claim)! And in *both* cases, the patient made their decision *very* clear - and *accepted* the risk of death despite how high it was - and were ignored! And no, using colorful language like "it was crucial to have them removed" doesn't change the scenario. It was "crucial" because there was a risk of *death* if they didn't, and therefore, it was just as "crucial" in *House's* case as well! But again, in *both* cases, you *don't* know if the patient would've died if the surgery didn't happen and can't say you do! The *exact* reason why the patient may have died or why it was critical to do a surgery *doesn't matter!* In *both* cases, a surgical removal occurred *against* the patient's wishes - and there was a major risk of *death* if the surgery *did not* occur (or, if you *insist,* if it did not occur "in time." In House's case, it was *even more* time-sensitive - if they didn't do the surgery *immediately,* all the dangerous stuff would be washed back into his system and would kill him. Therefore, even by *your* standards of "time-sensitivity," House's case *was* a violation)! So, again, it makes *zero* sense to have House actively *cheer* on someone repeating what Stacy did to him and ruined his life!
@@mazdakmina9493 you love to write long paragraphs, dont you ? I think you love to be regarded as exceptional and upholding the rules, same as early Masters did, but you are failing to see one crucial detail. That you would cheer for someone choosing to die to be recognized in eyes of others for some meaningles fate rather than lose part of herself but continue living. To quote House: "when did you get so screwed up?" Ultimately, House deep down realised that it was his Ego that wanted to retain his leg and made him pay for that with constant pain and didnt want the same for anybody else. It doesnt make sense to you because you view him through your lenses, but he isnt egomaniac, despite many times appearing to be so. He solves puzzles for his ego, but also has resolve to help others and he realised the Masters needs to be on the same journey to know when his or her ego is more important: to be recognized as good follower of rules and let patients die, or to break few to save patients life. He doesnt need to insert his trauma into it, because it has become Masters case and choice and maybe he silently started to realise he made a wrong one.
@KrakenIsMahB "Choosing to die." There you go again! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Again, *you don't know that!* You *don't* know if she would've died, and the fact that you *claim* to know is a straight up lie! And "[House] isn't egomaniac." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Wow! Have you even watched the show? He is *proudly* egomaniacal! The *entire* point of the show is that he can be as terrible as he wants *because* he is so good at what he does (which, for the record, you can't in real life - in real life, House would be in prison)! What? Do you see him acting like yourself and you're bothered by what you see and are trying to convince *yourself* you're not an egomaniac? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Whatever the reason, it is beyond obvious that you either never watched or paid attention to the show, or you just don't care and you're arguing in bad faith to protect your ego and *nothing* else! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 That's why you resorted to personal attacks - a sign that you knew you'd lost the factual argument (hence why you then had to respond with the most obvious to spot lies)! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Please, accuse me of something else so we know what else *you* are guilty of! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I await more lies and personal attacks from someone who has proven they don't care about the facts!
"Choosing to die." There you go again! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Again, you don't know that! You don't know if she would've died, and the fact that you claim to know is a straight up lie!
ima keep it 100. if i specifically said i dont want something done no matter the consequences and it happened i would actually end my life because i wouldn’t be able to trust anyone anymore. i wouldn’t feel like a person or that i would have autonomy anymore. if i was in this situation i dont think i could live knowing that my choices regarding my body dont matter.
I absolutely LOVE this show. One major flaw I've seen in a few episodes, and I'm not in the medical field at all so please correct me if I'm wrong, major HIPPA violations discussing other patients details in front of a separate patient. (Usually when house is conducting clinic hours, in a room with a patient and his team seeks him out, finds him and discusses the details of another patients case in front of house's other patient) I really do love this show though. House always has me laughing with his jokes🎉
HIPPA violations would only occur if there are specific descriptions used in the information or demographics that can be used to identity someone. If you’re just speaking about generalized pt information without specific info then it’s safe.
What she is experiencing is called phantom pain- "When you can't even say my name" "Has the memory gone? Are you feeling numb?" "Go and call my name" "I can't play this game, so I ask again"
In my opinion a lot of times House thinks like the doctors on the show The Night Shift, they go against the higher ups and bend the rules and sometimes breaks them so they can help their patients
I always liked how the dad said "ok" when his daughter said she hated them. He knew the consequences of the choice and was, tearfully, willing to accept them. He'd rather have his daughter alive and hating him than liking him and dead.
People might forget what you said, but they'll never forget what you made them feel.
Ok, but what happens if she kills herself because of that? She will hate him AND be dead.
@@funkyreapercat5280 gonna say that next time my parents try to make me do my homework. if they try to force me what if i kill myself, then i wont do my homework and i will be dead!
you can't walk a world record down the aisle at their wedding
@@funkyreapercat5280 That is an awful counter that is currently used to justify doing a bunch of horrible things to kids.
Let's be real. If you woke up in a hospital and seen your arm missing. No matter what anyone says, you would not be happy.
I would assume it had to be done, because I trust doctors
@@FelipeKana1 you have too much trust in doctors
@@AliceTheSpider I hope he doesn't imply that he wouldn't even question it.
better than not waking up at all, guess you wouldn't be all that mad though
@@AliceTheSpiderby lacking trust in those who know more than you, you will always be distrustful. just because it's clear gravity exists, why trust that?
The fetch scene with the dog is phenomenal.
House uses "exceptional" as a term to validate her multiple times before.
And finally, when he wants her to break a rule, he ends it with "you're not exceptional." At the same time throwing the line for the dog to fetch.
It symbolized the proverb - Hook, line and sinker.
Very aptly captured.
so the dog was essentially a visual metaphor to house emotionally manipulating her to basically do what he wanted her to do? ... i literally could not think of a way to word that to make it sound less ick but you get what i mean
Pavlov's Intern 😅
I thought you would talk about how Hugh Laurie talks to the dog lmao
Only people who really enjoy and love dogs use that tone of "gOod bOy" because they know how good that boy is
She really isn't. She p*ššied out after the case was over. An exceptional person would have braved through all the BS to save lives.
@@Dizaster1995 don't know if you've watched the series but house manipulates Masters, probably about 80% of the time. The 20 percent remaining is the times when she is kept out of their plans to avoid snitching
".. you want her to intern here!"
...
"And you're considering this?"
Taub's way of telling Masters to run while she can lolol😂
😆
She could still, you know, set the world record for youngest person to sail around the world with only one arm. I imagine the competition for that is far less severe. And arguably the accomplishment is even more impressive.
sailing is an olympic sport. she could be the youngest paralympian.
You can’t sail like that with one arm. I used to race small two-man sailboats and even then, you couldn’t have someone with only one arm.
You need one arm to set the tiller and the other to trim the sail, even in a fast one-man boat on a closed course, never mind an ocean-rated boat. Sailboat racing and solo sailing are genuinely incredibly dangerous with the amount that can go wrong and how quickly it can go wrong, you absolutely NEED both arms, to be in incredibly good shape, and to have your wits about you at all times.
It’d be almost impossible to even craft a dedicated prosthesis, because you need both arms to be able to do each job when you tack upwind and move side-to-side. It’s also far too dangerous to have a prosthetic that attaches you to the sheets or tiller to manipulate. You’d basically need a full-on bionic replacement with the reflexes and dexterity on-par with the original.
Having your arm amputated above the elbow would ABSOLUTELY kill your solo sailing career
No she couldn’t, you need two arms to sail.
I read this in House's voice
depends on circumstances, but, w/ practice, she could probably do it, definitely. thing is, thats not what shes thinking. shes a stupid teen (and i say that very affectionately) that is only focusing on the fact her parents and the doctors went against her wishes. maybe she doesnt KNOW she can be a paraolympian, or maybe she believes ppl will look down on her or pity her. shes young, she doesnt understand theres still hope for her dream
"I didnt do it to be happy. I just thought I would be." man that hit me hard
so relatable.
Doing the right thing won't always make you happy but when it comes down to questioning your actions you'll find no regrets. That's the silver lining & a source of confidence.
The difference between being a matured adult who knows life isn't fair.. and someone expecting life to be fair because they did the right thing. Movies tend to imply the "good guys" have a happily ever after. In reality... all of us know that's nonsense. And watching the light leave a young adult is unpleasant. We all remember when our light died.
I can relate to that, life sucks sometimes, even when you do the right thing
@@mikayla_collie I can't relate to that, she threw her new career for that ? after all the investment. Just because you can't be happy with your decisions. Maybe one day you grow up to be an adult.
We do what needs to be done, not what makes us happy.
Also, being happy isn't having fulfillment, duty is what creates fulfillment in life, not being happy. Happiness is just a silly emotion for kids, I'm not sad either, or angry, those are also emotions, emotions are like that, you feel them and they're gone, just like being thirsty, you're sad, have a piece of cake, now you're happy.
You might think you're happy, but you will know the lost potential, the thing that never was. Happiness is a lie.
Whoever is still keeping this Channel and the Series alive, you are the GOAT.
It's the production company. They're paying someone in order to drive streaming traffic. Someone is doing this because it's their job.
@@RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers still respectable ngl, imagine making cash just by cutting and reuploading house md clips
You mean NBC?!?!
Baaaa I'm a goat!
@@horsepuncher95 I'm pretty sure peacock is owned by Comcast and NBC so that would make sense.
I liked her i wish she would have stayed longer or maybe returned later, cuz she did bring a new dynamic to the group, they were all used to being shades of grey but she was alot more foolish in her youthfulness like she hadn’t been beaten down by the world the way everyone else already had
She was the spiritual successor to Cameron.
the fact she left and refused to get turned into house like chase or foreman was the only right way of ending her character honestly, she stuck to her ideals the entire time and didn't fold, her staying would've gone against it
House could have told her that most of the times he breaks the rules it's for the health and sometimes happiness of the patient, often a cheery result.(which is the truth)
But sometimes they break the rules and the situation doesn't get happier, sometimes patients also die, Masters can only handle rule-breaking for Grand Results, not middle-of-the-road or bad ones.
@@Yroxcruk666And in a way I think House was proud of her for leaving.
@@overdrive7349i like to think so too. Being loyal to yourself is more important Sometimes
This entire clip is just one career-ending malpractice suit after the other.
That´s kinda the norm with House
Best thing about malpractice suits, dead people don't file them from doctors doing what's procedurally correct.
@randomunavailable generally those are done by surviving family members
@@Bruhmomentos0979if they followed procedure there's nothing to file
@@surrealife2 dead family member
i really like how house 10:17 show his dissapointed face, like a father hearing his daugther doesnt want to follow his steps, but making her owns
Allegedly as she turned around he said "Look at the pretty flowers" pulled out a 9mm and blew her brains out!! True story which cannot be independently verified.
ok carol
woa twd reference
Im sorrybif i woke up and my arm was gone with no warning id ve screaming bloody murder lmao
Also, I would have lured the doctor nearer to me, faking I would like to "thank her" and then biting off some of her fingers promising I'll come back as soon as I can and take away "the rest". So much wasted potential in writing.
@@elektra121 "I would actually just commit a crime." Have you ever tried suing the hospital?
@@DoubleStrike-ye6tw sueing the hospital for saving your live
@@DoubleStrike-ye6tw They had consent from the parents. She wouldn't have won that case.
@@DoubleStrike-ye6tw Wow, how boring. It is a TV drama, remember? Also, simply suing won't bring the same feeling of satisfaction and rightful revenge. ;)
Ngl, going through the nursing program there was a number of times our instructors would start something with "Okay, so this is how people will want things done, this is according to the rules and if you get DHEC/other corporations in, this is how you're going to do it... But otherwise, once you'll hit the floor, what you ACTUALLY want to do..."
So you were taught malpractice, awesome. Violating procedure is malpractice.
That's rather frightening, telling a bunch of young medical students to ignore their training and pretend to be Dr. House. I suppose it works until they end up killing someone.
@@Lorrdd This happens in every career and industry. There's the "by the book way" and there's the "get 💩 done" way.
What do you think managers, customers and bosses praise more?
Same thing what happened to House's leg muscle...he did not want it cut out they were doing a vein bypass. He was under and there were complications so his wife gave the Dr permission to remove the muscle.
No wonder he doesnt want that student.
If I had a quarter for every time House used "You can't always get what you want" I'd be a millionaire
It does come back to the philosopher Jagger quite often on this show.
You do know this is scripted by writers, right?
Same, but replace House with my parents. lol
But, unfortunately, you can't always get what you what.
Hehe 😊
Or "it's not lupus"
You had me at "i lied".
One of the very few times House lost, very good episode.
His judgement was clouses because of what happened to his own leg
This episode is Master's down fall, gosh the face House has when Masters said she's leaving, that's the face of a disappointed parent.
It's not a downfall but the opposite of it, everyone in House's team eventually gets used to doing illegal stuff and even harming the patients.
Masters realised she couldn't and left right on time, she'll surely be a brilliant doctor regardless.
Masters is a incredible doctor 👏🏼 no matter what no matter where she goes .....❤❤
I mean it depends on your view. If you think about it, it also foreshadows House’s change, especially since the finale was coming.
Slight Spoiler if you didn’t watch the show to the end:
He ultimately gives up being an exceptional doctor to be happy.
@@AB-yk2pq , she shouldn't have been a doctor at all, and shd should've been the wife of the one patient that lowered his IQ.
She's not really a great fit in House's team. Which was great story wise.
This role suits her way more than that halfman on Two And A Half Man with Ashton Kutcher.
Yeah, she was pretty bad in TAAHM.
This goes back to her soap opera acting roots. Much more her speed than trying to do comedy.
You can't fault Masters for wanting to leave in the end, it's hard to come to work in the place your ideals were crushed in.
"You can´t alwaysa get what u waahhaaant....."
Lmao is that from that little girl Frankie?
Sounds like dr cox
Almost a decade ago, I rigged the minecraft install on the computer that my nephew played on to play that little song/phrase every time he would die in minecraft.
It was a real hoot.
But if you try some time, you might just find, you’ll get what you neeeeeEEEeeedd…
"But if you try sometimes, you just might find... you get what you need."
Excellent background song to end her on.
Love this show so much.
But no doctor in their right mind would wear heels like those.
If its Thursday, its House M.D.
Hell yeah brother
As an adult I find this disturbing
Yes because the young doctor can’t even stomach making a decision. Shame on these young peolle
Can’t believe am here after few mins of post- becoming like house
'nothing will ever be simple again' . He delivered that line so well, conveying how many layers are wrapped up in it.
A surgeon, here: it doesn't matter if Master saved the girl's life. You cannot lie like that to a patient. If a patient doesn't understand that by acting in a dangerous way they could die, it's your duty to talk to them and do everything you can to make them understand. The excuse "I did what I have to do" and "I saved the patient's life" are not enough if you decide for them. It doesn't matter if you know better. It is the doctor who decides what's the right way to treat a patient but it must be the patient the one who decides whether they want to be treated or not.
Edit: first of all thank you for all the likes.
Second of all, to ask those who feel the need to point out that it is a TV series: yes, I know it is a TV series and so it doesn't have to be realistic. I've written this comment because, despite this, I wanted to share my opinion, like everyone else does in YT. Please, you don't need to remind me that it is fake and that to expect it to be realistic is a waste of time, because by the same reasoning, it would be as much a waste of time watching the TV series in the first place. Watching fiction and sharing opinions about it is normal and fun.
Thank you again for the likes
Every House episode is violating some rule/law.
That would be slightly more relevant if the patient weren't a minor giving the parents the ultimate duty to decide the correct coarse of treatment. The parents already knew the doctor was right but they were swayed by their daughter's pleas. Once the doctor faked a condition that could happen at anytime while the girl was alone at sea they made the correct medical decision. It wasn't ethical for sure, but this fiction.
I completely agree with you; it's a matter of respect for human dignity and if the dignity of the patient implies not to be treated, the doctor has to respect that, and not use a trick to get around the fact that the patient has not given consent. For that girl, sailing and that record means everything and to take that away from her would constitute a violation of her human dignity...The young female doctor "did what she had to do" by obtaining consent from the parents even though she must have been aware that this was not what the patient wanted.
The problem with House is that he rarely ever considers the patient as a person (as evidenced by his atrocious bedside manner) but is more interested in the disease, which is like a puzzle for him to solve, something that stimulates him on an intellectual level. I think I can count on my right how many times he actually cared for the patient throughout the series. And letting a patient die or take a risk that might cost the patient there life for House means to have capitulated, resulting in his personal pride being hurt. What he does not take into account that by preventing a patient from dying even though it is against that patient's express wishes does not mean to bring back that patient to something that can be considered a "life" for lack of the true quality of life that has been taken away by acting against that patient's wishes. And even the parents should understand that and should not have given their consent behind the daughter's back even though in all probability that would have meant to let their daughter go. To truly love somebody means to be able to let that person go, to respect that person and their express wishes even though it means facing your own loss. Those parents were only afraid of their own loss, their choice was not really focused on their daughter's life. Consequently, they lost her because she told them she hated them.
(*I have not seen the entire episode, so is this young woman still a minor or is she of age? And if she had signed a prior declaration such as a DNR they would then not have been able to override her wishes in any case.)
That is literally every House episode, violating medical ethics to diagnose/save people. It's also probably why Masters chose to leave.
Something I always say. Medical dramas are where bad writers go to retire.
She needs to unleash her potential
😂
Masters, one of those doctors who do not respect the wish their patients for a second.
“Someone’s got their pouty face on.”
THE WAY I CACKLED
Signing consent forms while pushing the patient to the OR is rich.
"drama"
3:25
YOU THINK I'M EXCEPTIONAL. ?
NOT ANY MORE !!
😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah, if you have to ask that question, the answer definitely becomes no immediately.
While I think life is precious the fact that they so willingly went against the girl’s wishes and cut off her arm is crazy, As well the lying by the doctor is scary wrong. Imagine a doctor giving you false medical advice because of there own personal feelings.
If it actually led to you living instead of dying, then youd get over them lying really really quickly
Theres no dignity in death.
its easy to go against the girls wishes when its a child obsessing more about some worthless record and throw away her life for it when she's too young to even full comprehend what that means. Thats why parents exist to make choices for there children when they're not developed enough from them.
She's a kid
@@SteOhara okay and what if the doctor did something in your eyes immoral to keep you alive or made the rest of your life so terrible that it’s just constant pain and you end up ending yourself anyways.
I don't want a doctor to lie to me or make choices for me
Well, you won't always be in a position where you're able to make a choice. And doctors usually go for the choice to save a life if it's up to them.
Government does that for you all the time, at least doctors are trained
If the "lie" or "choice" made by a doctor saved your life, I doubt you wouldn't "like" that.
It's easier to draw conclusions because the situation is hypothetical... until it happens to you for real.
@@hammer0987654321 who trained the docs? surely wasnt a "governing body" (aka the ones who the government gave power to)
Don't worry. What happened in this episode is incredibly unethical and 99% of real doctors would never pull this stunt because it opens way for a malpractice suit that would very well end their careers.
Is no one gonna talk about how leaving a surgical room in scrubs and then entering another one is extremely unsanitary.
You must have missed that she changed scrubs in between the two. Green in the first room, blue when she enters the second.
@@TSR5000 yeah it was actually really good continuity and wardrobing
I made a longer comment about this, but here's the shorter version: did House *really* just endorse Masters doing to that girl what his (at first) hated ex-girlfriend Stacy did to *him* - i.e., went against his wishes as his proxy while he was in a procedural (i.e., planned and totally safe) coma and had part of his leg amputated despite him *explicitly* saying he didn't want that?! You know, that event that *ruined his life* and why he experiences chronic pain, has to use a cane, and is miserable and addicted to Vicodin? Did the writers *really* just show House *endorsing* almost that *exact* same action?! Oof!
Except an amptuation would have been better for House in the long run. He wouldn't have been so bitter and miserable.
Interesting point! If I remember correctly, his wife was given the choice to either amputate the whole leg or risk his death. She went for a middle ground and let them amputate the necrotic tissue on his leg which left him with an almost useless limb and in chronic pain. Maybe that's why he hates people who won't make bold decisions. Deep down he knows he'd have been better off if she ignored his wish completely and let them amputate his leg.
@@annaf3915 There was an episode where he was dealing with a woman whose leg was trapped. By the end he admits that he'd probably have been happier had he just accepted the leg being amputated instead of holding onto it.
@@arandombard1197 I've heard these retorts a number of times - including the reference to the Season 6 Finale (titled, "Help Me"), and unfortunately.
I'll post the full transcript of what House said to that woman in the season 6 finale in a separate comment, but simply put, House says he regrets not getting amputated *not* because he doesn't think it "would've been fine," but because, in the end, he did *not* get to make the final decision. Specifically, he mentions how trying to keep the leg resulted in the decision being taken *out* of his hands, resulting in the leg *not* being fully amputated and the condition he's in now (which he describes as having a useless leg that does nothing but cause him pain).
And yes, note that in that episode, he *convinces* her to change her mind! What he does *not* do is amputate the leg *against* her wishes! So, again, this idea that he "grew" to believe that Stacy had done the right thing is patently false - no, he wishes he'd chosen to amputate it in full, because then he never would've needed to be put into a coma, and Stacy *never* would've been able to make the choice for him (i.e., exactly what Masters just did)!
@@arandombard1197 Here's the full transcript of what House says to Hanna in the Season 6 finale.
House: You asked me how I'd hurt my leg. I had a blood clot, and the muscle was dying. I had all these doctors telling me I should amputate and I said no, and they did this very risky operation. I almost died.
Hanna: But you saved your leg.
House: I wish I hadn't. They cut out a chunk of muscle about the size of my fist, and they left me with this mutilated, useless thing. I'm in pain. Every day. And it changed me. Made me a harder person. A worse person. And now, now I'm alone. You don't wanna be like me. You've got a husband who loves you, you have friends, you can start a family. You have a life. And this; this is just a leg.
Again, a reminder, he said "no" because he wanted to save the *whole* leg (he did *not* choose the "middle ground" option and *never* would've). The operation only happened because *Stacy* went against his wishes because he asked to be put into a coma to sleep off the pain (and she took advantage of the fact that she was his proxy and he was unconscious). So, he's *literally* saying here, "if I'd never said 'no,' Stacy wouldn't have been able to make the choice for me and ultimately make the *worst* possible choice."
If she didn't get the amputation she would have died long before finishing the sailing trip, that record was already gone. It's painful but it's true.
True. Her dream was already dead. Still, she had the right to die trying. It would've been stupid, but just.
@@Henry_Red True, that she had the right to die trying.
yes they are normalizing malpractice in not giving the patients a role in the decision.
@@billjohnson9472 I wouldn't go that far. It's a medical drama. Not a documentary.
No, it wasnt. The sitiation is far mar complex - otherwise it wouldnt be a drama. She absolutely could have made that record and later have treatment and live - and have both her record and her arm and no trauma and could love her parents unconditionally. Less likely, but not impossible. I also would have liked to have them written for her to later unaliving herself and the parents sue for malpractice.
He he, reality. I had a femur fracture starting at the knee joint that crept up the bone. The marrow leakage caused a massive blockage in my gall bladder. My physician was out of town when the abdominal pain began. The doctor in his stead ordered surgery in two days, found out I hadn't eaten in two days, and then had surgery scheduled as soon as the bloodwork was in. 66% of patients died when the condition was allowed to progress. He reminded me of House. He was insistent, overbearing, yet scientifically correct. I woke up from an 8am surgery at 4pm without a gallbladder and two pins in the fractured bone, not what I expected, but those who cared made sure I lived.
Gallbladders not as traumatic as an entire limb but aight.
She cared more about winning rather than the fact that she is missing an arm. I wouldn't care about the event. I would care more about my arm.
You’re also not 16. Decision-making at 16, along with the myopia of sports? Pretty sure you’re caring about the record over the arm, because 16-year-old basically think they’re invincible, and can’t see the long-term consequences of the arm loss as being important in comparison to the immediate reward of getting that record.
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker nope I could tell your right now. If that happened when I was 16 I wouldn't care about a record. I would care that i lost my arm. No normal person would care about a record over an arm.
@@Patrick1985McMahon If I had the choice to make of: Keep my arm and cancer spreads to the rest of my body and I very likely die vs have my arm amputated and very likely survive, I'd go with the amputation, I wouldn't be happy about it, but I'd at least be much more likely to survive.
@@SilentHotdog28 You missed the point of my post. The girl focused more on winning some event more than loosing an arm. Yes in the situation she was going to lose the arm. but a real person would be more tramatized over losing an arm and wouldn't be focused on an event.
It is the difference between releasing the bird into the sky and watch it inevitably fall down and die after a while.
Or cut the wing off and keep it in the house forever.
How sad she thought things would go smoothly.
No sign of head trauma does not exclude a seizure. 🙄
Hey, I lost an eye and a leg and went back to surfing… anything is possible.
You are freaking awesome :000
"Should I wake up and my arm is not attached to my body, I shall not be held accountable for my actions."
That's how I'd handle it.
So you'd be kool with cancer spreading around your body and dying shortly after?
You wake up with the arm dangling from your leg
@@NJ-wb1cz and they'd die again.
@@georgeprchal3924 who's they?
@@NJ-wb1cz those whom removed my arm.
This episode was stupid, there are surgical treatments for this that don't require you to lose an arm, they can remove the bone and replace it with artificial titanium "bones", even when this epissode was made.
hate to have that medical bill that is for sure.
that requires ordering beforehand, they had no authorization or order before this happened and they needed to get rid of the cancer before it moved to an important organ like the lungs or liver, or heaven forbid the brain
@@DustinDonald-cz9otIt's a free clinic or something like that, I don't fully remember what the hospital was supposed to be per se.
@@JackFoxtrotEDM Princeton-Plainsboro Teaching Hospital is the name of the place.
@@JackFoxtrotEDM Nothing is Free.
With the state of prosthetics today, one can choose to live a normal and productive life. Once PT, exercises and learning with a prosthetic arm are complete, imagine the victory of competing in a sailing race again. Even if not first place, the courage to compete would still be a total winner!
interesting line about the pineal gland being calcified
This show was exceptional
The patient has a Bill of Rights and would/should absolutely sue the hospitals and parents when this type of stuff happens. Whether her life was saved or not, she had the choice of what treatment to get.
If you sue for your life being saved then you deserve to not have it saved. Will I be annoyed if a doctor convinces my wife to have my leg or arm lopped off because it will save my life, sure at first, but at least I will be alive long enough to adapt and enjoy the moments that doctor gave me.
Life’s to precious to bicker over something as trivial as a limb.
@@wakcedout No doctor could have convinced her. The doctor manipulated her parents into doing what the doctor wanted. You should accept there are people who much prefer having a short life under their conditions - to having a long life with a disability. It is their choice and their choice only. And you are not in the position to judge them - even if you can't understand them. Their body, their choice.
Spoken like someone who hasn't had to live without one.
Not everyone's going to be able to adapt to that. And your a fool if you think that's the case.
@@wakcedout She had the right to choose for herself. The doctors should’ve respected it, end of story. Hers, anyway. You can do what you want to do. That’s the point of an individual patient’s Bill of Rights. 🤷🏽♀️
Edit: typo
@@HellHazAtTheZooYou sound mentally ill...
You couldn't pay me enough to work for someone like House.
I loved Master’s character right up until this episode, forcing the situation so that they amputated the girl’s arm just made her trash 😒
Really? That’s how they rolled on House. There are probably a dozen clips on this channel with different members of his team and even him, doing exactly the same thing. Maybe not with an amputation at the end, but forcing a necessary treatment at the end? Absolutely.
A large portion of the time, the show definitely leaned into the idea of the ends justifying the means.
If you identify with House, stay far far away from me. I don’t care how “smart” he is or how “right” he can be, when she went to him that final time she was basically pleading for any sort of heart or humanity to come out of his mouth and he physically couldn’t bring himself to do it. She made the right choice leaving that hellscape he created
There's nothing wrong with House that couldn't be solved by giving his coworkers cattle prods. Two weeks, tops and he'd be civil enough to tolerate.
"Coloring inside the lines is more important to you than saving this girls life". That is it in a nutshell.
The idea that kids actually do feel that way about the things they’re pushed into is disgusting. I nearly ended myself when I was a teenager because of playing viola on a professional level. Actors, models, athletes, etc. Kids should be kids for as long as possible, and anyone that thinks otherwise is the problem. There’s too much stress as it is, and life is far too short to take silly things seriously before you’re an adult. Stop making your kids grow up before they should.
Break the rules at your own peril.
Follow the rules at your own peril.
are you being intentionally dense
huh?
this vexes me
Yes I is.
no idea..or yeah? i dunno
HUH?
My dad lost his arm when he was 7. When he woke up, his "arm" was hurting.
People always say how good this show is, and they’re probably right; but based on basically every clip I’ve seen of it, I just can’t personally stand to watch something where I’m meant to agree with characters that are written to be so insanely righteous and on a pedestal that their opinion is the only thing that matters, even when doing highly illegal and morally questionable actions. (double for doctor characters illegally going against patients wishes and their medical ethical code).
“So colouring inside the lines is more important to you than saving this girls life?”
Erm, YES. You are a terrible doctor if not, and would be fired and prosecuted if found not to be. And I’m meant to just pretend that wouldn’t be the case in order to enjoy the show it would seem.
@@BruceP suspension of disbelief is for "the young and the restless".
This show depicts real medical issues, and pushes the boundaries of moral acceptance and value.
Your view is subjective, as well as OP's , and they have a justified right to think how they want.
Are you against people having freedom of thought? Do we need to see the show as you do?
Personally, I can't watch it. The "per episode formula" is too blatant and obvious. By the end of the episode, House is off buying tomatoes or listening to someone explain a story about Wall paper, and it will make House suddenly create the "perfect diagnosis" for the current patient.
The "thrilling episodes" that rarely occur are when he has troubles figuring it out and someone else "houses" all over the episode, or a patient doesn't make it.
Every episode. Same formula.
It eventually feels like a re-run, every day.
See? People can have opinions outside yours. Imagine that!
No, YOU would be the terrible doctor
@@enigmalfidelityobviously people have different opinions, but that doesnt mean those opinions have any basis in reality
Every episode of House is essentially based on "The ends justifies the means" full stop. And we all know that isn't true.
So you also must hate most crime shows then.
They loved her but they crushed her dream. Is a life without a dream worth living? Honestly I don’t think I would ever talk to my parents if they did this. They kept her alive but they still lost her in the end. Was is really worth it?
Yes it is worth to keep your child alive. She can adjust after grieving her losses and have other dreams. Also what was the child supposed to do after achieving her dream? Kill herself because there is nothing more to do? Dreams can change and be adjusted, a life lost can't be brought back.
A life they ruined by amputating without her permission.
If I was in the same position as a parent, I would do the same thing and you would too.
Any parent would prefer her to be alive to hate them than end up on a slab.
She has her whole life to find and achieve new dreams.
Dying would prevent that
Masters was a dumbass. The first time House told her to get lost she should have walked away and let him come back to her. Don't ever let an employer, potential or otherwise, hold your job over you like that.
I really want this show to come back
I picture the people who woke up from sepsis with their arms and legs all amputated. THAT should be criminal.
There needs to be better prosthetics made, and with today's current robotics technology it's starting to happen, that kind of situation wouldn't be as bad if they could replace all their limbs with adequate replacements, even nerve feedback is now possible, and with robotics tech like what EX Robots has, no one would really know that everything is artificial, cause they look that real, combine that with nerve electrode technology and AI to help interpret the signals, and it's more possible, even the sensation of touch is possible although if you have to power down the limb, like for repairs, or to replace a part, powering it back up would give you the pins and needles sensation as it's connected to sensory nerves, there's no reason a robotics company couldn't also have a prosthetics division as the motion and physical aspects would be applied the same to both fields.
I've already told my mum I want not die if that is my only option/ Luckily she feels the same way.
She wanted to be a pirate. Many pirates were missing a limb; just give her a hook and let her sail
Fun fact, the intern at the very beginning of the clip that asked if Masters had talked to House is Jen Landon. The same woman who plays Teeter on Yellowstone.
She could do Olympic breakdancing 😂
She can't do the kangaroo jump with only one arm.
I do not blame her one bit for being pissed off. First off, sure it is the doctor who decides what the right way to treat a patient is... BUT it must be the up to the patient to decides whether they want to be treated in that way or not. Otherwise you are looking at a rightfully appointed lawsuit. Even if the person is dying, they have the bodily right to refuse treatment or not have something particular done to them. I realize this is a TV show, I am actually a huge fan of House, grew up with it. But things like this do grind my gears. If I had a limb removed without my consent or even consulting me first, oh yeah I would be absolutely furious, cause you can't undo a procedure like that. "Well I saved the patience life" and "you don't always get what you want" isn't something that holds up in court.
I can kinda see why the girl is upset and her dream feels ruined. But the parents aren't wrong to want their daughter to live
But they are wrong to take that decision from her.
Only argument I can think of is that ultimately she was not conscious to receive information about the context, so she in effect wasn't available when the decision needed to be re evaluated.
@@GoingtoHecq If she was more likely to die before she could even compete, I would definitely understand.
@@SavantPete Yes, and that seemed to not have been the case. She absolutely could have competed and then have a chemo and have the record and her arm. With a little bit of luck.
I would never forgive them, if I were her. I'd rather accomplish my life goal and die shortly after than live another 60 years unable to do what I love. It was selfish and evil. A complete violation of her autonomy.
@@altheaosborn2648Put yourself in the parent's shoes too. Now, weigh.
Such a great series and wonderful writing.
great clip
> "I am just be staying for this case"
> "You gotta really good at this lying thing.."
There’s still so much interest in this series. They need to do a revival!
Please no. I don't want show where House would be constantly put down and "shown his place" by some generic "genius strong independent woman". And how would you even fit much of season 1-2 Foreman jokes in today's culture environment. Lot things has to change before we would be ready for House M.D. revival.
@@williameckhart8263 How would they even do it though? If it's a continuation instead of a complete reboot, House is suppose to be dead and if he came back he wouldn't be able to practice medicine again cause if anyone found out he'd most likely end up back in prison. Wilson is dead, cuddy has moved on and his former fellows believe he's dead. Unless he changed his identity and moved to a different state and found another dean of medicine crazy enough to allow him to practice medicine in their hospital it's not happening.
Fucking cry harder @@williameckhart8263
@@Jds87909 continuation is out of question. Original series is defenitely complete and authots said everything they wanted to say. As for reboot. House for me is with Sopranos, Sons of Anarchy, Breaking Bad etc. Those series do not need any reboots. Especially with modern school of writing
If they will do a reboot, they need to cast the OG characters especially Hugh. No one can do House except Hugh.
8:16 she had a good navigation officer
My heart breaks for the patient.
Yeah, it sucks. Only a loser would have one arm. I'm sad that she had to become a loser, losing her arm.
Every episode is medical malpractice
10:32 the show could have had a much more interesting ending if every season ended with Dr. House proving to young doctors why he is who he is, but each season the doctor cannot be House. Until there is one that can be, only for House to realize why no one but him can be him.
She has never heard of single handing a boat?
She should call a lawer before they cut off her other arm
She is a minor parents call.
@@DustinDonald-cz9ot Nowhere NEAR that straightforward. You're still a person when you're a minor.
Imagine if your parents decided they wanted to cut you up for spare parts for a sibling (that's a thing that has happened IRL, sadly) that would be horrific torture to do that against someone's wishes, the courts have emancipated minors over that kind of medical abuse.
This would be less cut-and-dry because the courts tend to err on the side of life saving procedures, but if the "life saving" results in a completely unacceptable quality of life for the patient who wishes to refuse treatment a court may well grant emancipation, especially if the person in question is near the age of majority anyway.
Even with underage people the legal system recognizes a need to balance life-saving care with not creating cruel and unusual situations against people's will. Tl;DR parents are legal gaurdians who can be stripped of that authority, not gods or slave owners.
@@SpaceBearEngineer Well they can kill you before you are even born so really splitting hairs.
@@SpaceBearEngineer Just like the movie “My Sister’s Keeper”
He saved his daughter, which is noble. But in my opinion he was very selfish. He preferred to see his daughter suffer and deal with the loss of her arm, rather than him suffer and deal with the loss of his daughter.
No father is going to stand around and let their child die. Get smart.
@@_LuxSteinSo parents should value their own suffering over the suffering of their children?
I like how he leans in at her and she makes a weird look, when he tells her the symptoms. lol
She can play drums for def Leppard now
I remember a similar case in the good doctor, with a female violinist
Wow, so apparently House (read: the writers of the show) completely forgot what Stacy (House's ex-girlfriend who showed up at the end of Season 1) did to him (as seen in flashbacks)! For those who don't remember, House feels chronic pain and lost a huge part of his leg because - against his wishes - his then-girlfriend (whom he named as his proxy) went against his wishes after he was put into a coma to sleep off the pain of the injury (in which he chose not to have his leg amputated and to simply have the clot in his leg removed, despite his life being at serious risk if he went that route) and chose to have the dead tissue removed anyway, despite House *explicitly* saying he did not want that! And now, suddenly, House thinks doing the same thing to someone else is the right call? Just wow!
Masters and the parents essentially did to that girl what Stacy did to House! Ok, there was a difference. Stacy never faked an illness (which is a huge violation of the law, and in real life, Masters and House would be in prison)! But the taking advantage of the fact that the patient was unconscious to do something *against* the patient's wishes is exactly what Stacy did to House and why we hated her at first! But yes, if anything, what Masters did was *worse* than what Stacy did!
And for those saying, "she would've died if they hadn't," I refer you to what House (read: the writers) said and what that medical student (the one from the class House taught in which he told the story - although, again, read: the writer) said when someone else made the same point. "Well, we don't know that. Maybe (s)he would've been fine!" Same applies here! You don't know if this even actually saved her life! She might've been totally ok, gotten her record, and *then* been able to complete her surgery! The point is, we *don't know* and *that* is why Stacy was hated at first! And that is why *House* hated Stacy - yet now, suddenly, he's actively cheerleading someone doing the same to someone else and telling them "you were right!"
You'd think *House* of all people would understand how damaging such an action is to the person on the receiving end of it! Read: you'd think *the writers* would've said, "wait, is House *really* about to actively endorse the same action that ruined *his own* life? The same core action that a huge pillar of this entire show is based on?"
And for even those saying, "wait, but in another episode where a woman's leg was crushed under a collapsed building and she needed it amputated to survive, House (who initially stuck with, 'don't let them amputate it' because of what happened to him) had a moment of 'growth' where he finally came to terms with what happened and told the woman, 'you should let them amputate it.'" I understand that, but in *that* case, he didn't go ahead and amputate it *for* her - he *convinced* her *not* to go that route. He made her *change her mind,* and admitted that maybe *he* should have chosen amputation (in part, because he wouldn't have chronic pain now if he'd made that choice *himself* - instead, the choice was made *for* him, and now he feels chronic pain)! So, I'm sorry, but even *that* does not justify this action or make him less of a hypocrite - which is my way of saying, "I think the *writers* forgot about even *that* form of growth he showed!"
Simply put, this is so out-of-character for House that I chalk this up to *more* than just "this character is a hypocrite." No, sorry, but this is quite a drastic change of behavior for the character and this is a complete failure in character writing!
It is really not that, having dead tissue in limb that could have healed is different than having a building or cancer growth on limb, latter two were cases which were a race against time and it was crucial to have them removed.
This episode was also different for another aspect, that it wasnt about House, but about Masters and about her making hard decisions. House knew she would do something like that and his hands off approach was intentional to enable Masters to build her own character.
@@KrakenIsMahB And? That doesn't at all change the fact that *both* were life-threatening (even in House's case) and in *both* cases, we *don't* know if the patient would've died or not (despite what people, including *you,* claim)! And in *both* cases, the patient made their decision *very* clear - and *accepted* the risk of death despite how high it was - and were ignored!
And no, using colorful language like "it was crucial to have them removed" doesn't change the scenario. It was "crucial" because there was a risk of *death* if they didn't, and therefore, it was just as "crucial" in *House's* case as well! But again, in *both* cases, you *don't* know if the patient would've died if the surgery didn't happen and can't say you do!
The *exact* reason why the patient may have died or why it was critical to do a surgery *doesn't matter!* In *both* cases, a surgical removal occurred *against* the patient's wishes - and there was a major risk of *death* if the surgery *did not* occur (or, if you *insist,* if it did not occur "in time." In House's case, it was *even more* time-sensitive - if they didn't do the surgery *immediately,* all the dangerous stuff would be washed back into his system and would kill him. Therefore, even by *your* standards of "time-sensitivity," House's case *was* a violation)!
So, again, it makes *zero* sense to have House actively *cheer* on someone repeating what Stacy did to him and ruined his life!
@@mazdakmina9493 you love to write long paragraphs, dont you ? I think you love to be regarded as exceptional and upholding the rules, same as early Masters did, but you are failing to see one crucial detail. That you would cheer for someone choosing to die to be recognized in eyes of others for some meaningles fate rather than lose part of herself but continue living. To quote House: "when did you get so screwed up?"
Ultimately, House deep down realised that it was his Ego that wanted to retain his leg and made him pay for that with constant pain and didnt want the same for anybody else. It doesnt make sense to you because you view him through your lenses, but he isnt egomaniac, despite many times appearing to be so. He solves puzzles for his ego, but also has resolve to help others and he realised the Masters needs to be on the same journey to know when his or her ego is more important: to be recognized as good follower of rules and let patients die, or to break few to save patients life. He doesnt need to insert his trauma into it, because it has become Masters case and choice and maybe he silently started to realise he made a wrong one.
@KrakenIsMahB "Choosing to die." There you go again! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Again, *you don't know that!* You *don't* know if she would've died, and the fact that you *claim* to know is a straight up lie!
And "[House] isn't egomaniac." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Wow! Have you even watched the show? He is *proudly* egomaniacal! The *entire* point of the show is that he can be as terrible as he wants *because* he is so good at what he does (which, for the record, you can't in real life - in real life, House would be in prison)! What? Do you see him acting like yourself and you're bothered by what you see and are trying to convince *yourself* you're not an egomaniac? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Whatever the reason, it is beyond obvious that you either never watched or paid attention to the show, or you just don't care and you're arguing in bad faith to protect your ego and *nothing* else! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 That's why you resorted to personal attacks - a sign that you knew you'd lost the factual argument (hence why you then had to respond with the most obvious to spot lies)! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Please, accuse me of something else so we know what else *you* are guilty of! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I await more lies and personal attacks from someone who has proven they don't care about the facts!
"Choosing to die." There you go again! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Again, you don't know that! You don't know if she would've died, and the fact that you claim to know is a straight up lie!
I like how they use the old theme music at the end of these videos.
ima keep it 100. if i specifically said i dont want something done no matter the consequences and it happened i would actually end my life because i wouldn’t be able to trust anyone anymore. i wouldn’t feel like a person or that i would have autonomy anymore. if i was in this situation i dont think i could live knowing that my choices regarding my body dont matter.
Best show ever made.
She's too innocent for the job.
Not anymore.
I mean, at least she didn't get turned into a walrus...
Masters makes Cameron seem likable. God is she insufferable
Not sure about that.
"you cant always get what you want"
ROLL CREDITS!
I absolutely LOVE this show. One major flaw I've seen in a few episodes, and I'm not in the medical field at all so please correct me if I'm wrong, major HIPPA violations discussing other patients details in front of a separate patient. (Usually when house is conducting clinic hours, in a room with a patient and his team seeks him out, finds him and discusses the details of another patients case in front of house's other patient)
I really do love this show though. House always has me laughing with his jokes🎉
HIPPA violations would only occur if there are specific descriptions used in the information or demographics that can be used to identity someone. If you’re just speaking about generalized pt information without specific info then it’s safe.
You've both misspelled HIPAA, for one thing
What she is experiencing is called phantom pain-
"When you can't even say my name"
"Has the memory gone? Are you feeling numb?"
"Go and call my name"
"I can't play this game, so I ask again"
It would have been better with Masters being arrested for the crime she committed and the hospital being sued for many millions.
It's okay!!! You're all right now!!!
All because he believed she COULD be exceptional because of her skills, he ruined a bright future surgeon.
And she helped him greatly in this.
Missed the part where a chicken flies into Master in the end.
6:03 yuck hollywood grandstanding
In my opinion a lot of times House thinks like the doctors on the show The Night Shift, they go against the higher ups and bend the rules and sometimes breaks them so they can help their patients
Only this time it is very much debatable, if this is "helping the patient".
I can't believe I am here 2 minutes after posting!
I’ve watched the whole of House MD and I weirdly do not remember this episode or this intern at all! Not even a hint of vaguely familiar.