Why Tunisians Are Back On the Streets Again, 10 Years After the Arab Spring | A Decade of Spring

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  • Tunisia’s Arab Spring starts with one man in Sidi Bouzid, 190 miles south of the capital Tunis. Mohamed Bouazizi’s suicide, the subsequent protests, Ben Ali’s resignation all had dramatic ramifications both at home and across the region.
    10 years on, protestors are on the streets once more - repeating many of the same demands. So was it all worth it?
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  • @achmadmarendes
    @achmadmarendes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Hello Tunisia
    Hope things go well and peacefully
    Greetings from Jakarta

  • @GeographyGeek
    @GeographyGeek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +259

    I’m getting old. The Arab Spring feels like yesterday.

    • @skyusable
      @skyusable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I was a sophomore in college when it happened. I remember the excitement discussing the impact of social media on political activism in my political science classes.

    • @GeographyGeek
      @GeographyGeek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@skyusable I was about the same age. In my senior year of high school. I remember watching the news seeing crazy journalists giving interviews in what looked like a mosh pit in Cairo everyday.

    • @konanhonim3111
      @konanhonim3111 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If feel as if it happened 20 years ago.

    • @carthagianqueen3181
      @carthagianqueen3181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@skyusable
      In which country was that?
      I was 11 when Tunisia started the revolution lol
      Ngl locals were exited about it and stressed at the same time back then
      We expected a peaceful transition in the government and that what exactly happened,unlike what happened in other countries peace was there but another form of corruption popped out

    • @lordblazer
      @lordblazer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was in my senior year in college living in Japan. Months after the arab spring little did I know a tsunami would hit Japan and change the course of my life at that time.

  • @moenyi6327
    @moenyi6327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Fighting Tunisha!we also support u from myanmar where we r still fighting for democracy

    • @ashleyalmasifar3012
      @ashleyalmasifar3012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      May God bless you and keep fighting for it you will definitely get freedom from evil coup

    • @apotebill
      @apotebill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You guys have been going at it for longtime. Keep fighting!

    • @MrKkoool
      @MrKkoool 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Democracy is a failed experiment by the west in Arab world, Arab world was at peace under Dictators like Saddam husaain and Gaddafi. It is bad to hear truth brother, these people will be at peace only under stubborn and cruel dictators. Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait, Jordan are peaceful just because of being under Dictators. Only the immature and those who don't understand Islam speak about democracy in Arab world. sorry to say facts. Facts don't care about feelings.

  • @abdullahchhab2325
    @abdullahchhab2325 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Love from Syria. Tunisia is the first democratic Arab country that's on a brighter path despite the difficulties. Hoping we will follow suit!

    • @carthagianqueen3181
      @carthagianqueen3181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thank you,praying that things get better in Syria 🙏🏻🙏🏻

    • @shavingryansprivates4332
      @shavingryansprivates4332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nothing will get better untill the middle east accepts human rights freedom and democracy.

    • @abdullahchhab2325
      @abdullahchhab2325 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@shavingryansprivates4332 I agree

    • @abdullahchhab2325
      @abdullahchhab2325 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Kiki Kiki I mean Arabic-speaking

    • @exmusulmanagnostique746
      @exmusulmanagnostique746 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Kiki Kiki Abstract Tunisia is ARAB
      We have analyzed Y-chromosome diversity in the western Mediterranean area, examining p49a, f Taql haplotype V and subhaplotypes Vb (Berber) and Va (Arab). A total of 2,196 unrelated DNA samples, belonging to 22 populations from North Africa and the southern Mediterranean coast of occidental Europe, have been typed. Subhaplotype Vb, predominant in a Berber population of Morocco (63.5%), was also found at high frequencies in southern Portugal (35.9%) and Andalusia (25.4%). The Arab subhaplotype Va, predominant in Algeria (53.9%) and Tunisia (50.6%), was also found at a relatively high frequency in Sicily (23.1%) and Naples (16.4%); its highest frequency in Iberia was in northern Portugal (22.8%) and Andalusia (15.5%). In Iberia there is a gradient of decreasing frequencies in latitude for both subhaplotypes Va and Vb, related to eight centuries of Muslim domination (8th to 15th centuries) in southern Iberia.
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  • @shartstanker2086
    @shartstanker2086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    Street vendor: *Sets himself on fire*
    Middle East governments: Aight ima head out

    • @Medicus_Asur
      @Medicus_Asur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Syria: Guess I'll collapse

    • @loss8717
      @loss8717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      if you're talking about Tunisia, it's definitely not on the middle east

    • @francismendy1398
      @francismendy1398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@loss8717 it is in the Greater Middle East, however.

    • @mehrezO2
      @mehrezO2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@francismendy1398 yeah between cina and the moon

    • @loss8717
      @loss8717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@francismendy1398 lmao no tf

  • @hatemgharsallah6055
    @hatemgharsallah6055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    Tunisia is on vice the second time in this month Noice

    • @IllusiveDude
      @IllusiveDude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      for the wrong reasons

    • @udkc
      @udkc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IllusiveDude yeah so not nice at all

    • @bey976
      @bey976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They push this agenda

    • @pedopeter4166
      @pedopeter4166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@bey976 stfu.

    • @hatemgharsallah6055
      @hatemgharsallah6055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@IllusiveDude i thought that for a while but i hope not

  • @LloydSMITH
    @LloydSMITH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    One day : Freedom for Every One

    • @ozdemirsalik
      @ozdemirsalik 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately, it’s impossible with this human population. Maybe a million years from now will be much different, but it’s impossible for the near future.

    • @yeahokbuddy2510
      @yeahokbuddy2510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ozdemirsalik nihilism is hella cringe and lame dude

    • @ozdemirsalik
      @ozdemirsalik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@yeahokbuddy2510 I might be a real nihilist, I can’t know for sure. But what I said is true. Just visit my country(Turkey) and you’ll understand what I’m talking about.

    • @johnadams5992
      @johnadams5992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      freedom isnt free

    • @419prince
      @419prince 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @P4to D0l4n our "politicians" (Spain) are also psychopaths, while thousands are dying from the pandemic, they're literally more interested in attacking each other in public and dividing society, while they agree with each other to raise their salaries in private

  • @NeetReel
    @NeetReel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    This spoke so much to me as an Indian. I am teary eyed .. silly...but it's real.

    • @MrYessin87
      @MrYessin87 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ❤️

    • @NeetReel
      @NeetReel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @drc ula india is going through a period that I fear could land us where Tunisia was... But I am also aware for every dark period there will be a time when things will be better... But how a nations gets itself to that point depends on the awareness and the persisitance of the general public or else mistakes will be repeated and that dark period runs long...which makes Tunisia a better example of that slow climb up the hill to the possibility of better times. It was inspiring to hear the voices of a place in transition. Does that answer your question?

    • @animesh_tiwary
      @animesh_tiwary 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NeetReel Let's just not import ideas and issues from foreign countries to your country. The world is different. Every country is different. Politics is different and people are different. Issues are different.
      Every country's approach to deal with its issues is different. Be sensitive to your local realities and challenges rather than emulating something unrelated and totally foreign.

    • @NeetReel
      @NeetReel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OkarinHououinKyouma I do dear. It may appear that way to you as either you prescribe to boxing people in or you just don't see how democracy is being dismantled. Each to his own

    • @NeetReel
      @NeetReel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OkarinHououinKyouma there...I will agree with you ....I do feel hopeless about us as a nation. And yes I feel like democracy is sand running out from under our feet.

  • @wassimtns7758
    @wassimtns7758 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Tunisia will be better inchallah❤

    • @MyrathFan
      @MyrathFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Inschallah☝️

  • @ryanlove8242
    @ryanlove8242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    @vice news This is why i love you. Telling us about some real world sh**. I pray for the Tunisian people. God bless.

    • @ryanlove8242
      @ryanlove8242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hichembekri1079 be safe brother and much love from California. This is why i do psychedelics like mushrooms and LSD to open up my heart and mind and tune into what's really going on. You cant always believe what you hear from others but psychedelics will show you God in real time and i am starting to believe they are the missing piece of religion. Spirituality will have you feeling gods presence but LSD will show you God with your own eyes and make you happy to be alive.

    • @ryanlove8242
      @ryanlove8242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hichembekri1079 it definitely gives you what ram dass's guru calls darshan of Christ. In my own words id say it puts you in Christ consciousness and yes you do love everyone. I dont see anything wrong with that. The world needs love now more than ever.

    • @ryanlove8242
      @ryanlove8242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hichembekri1079 how do you know what im feeling is real or not real? I don't try to dictate whats real to you or tell you what is real or not real. That is up to you to decide. I am native American brother and my beliefs are my own. Just like yours are your own. In most native American belief systems there are no words for "hallucination". All the things we experience on plant medicine and entheogens are integrated as part of the spiritual experience. I'm sorry you can't except what i have to say but i promise i won't crucify you for your beliefs. We are all family under God. Not everyone can see it but God bless those enlightened souls who do. God bless you too brother. May love win the war for you as it has for me. ✌&❤

    • @ayoubbasly6204
      @ayoubbasly6204 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryanlove8242 wow man !!! I think u made me think for a moment !! Keep doing your sh*t
      Peace brother 🙏

  • @otfweaintgang2268
    @otfweaintgang2268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Why wasn't Libya included in that Arab spring map intro?

    • @kokojambo4944
      @kokojambo4944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Because the new west will not say anything that will tarnish their narrative. "arab spring good" "rebels good" "al nusra good" "these guys bad" (these guys been governments that do not follow America's commands.

    • @Treysorable
      @Treysorable 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      cough cough.. umm.. *youtube commercial plays*
      "HAVE YOU HEAARRDDD OF THIS REVOLUTIONARY WAY MAKE MONEY???

    • @jurkcommand5971
      @jurkcommand5971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kokojambo4944 Man, you were brave enough to tell the truth.The US uses social media opinion to incite ignorant young people to overthrow their own government.Then install American puppets and transfer the country's property.

    • @baselnat93
      @baselnat93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jurkcommand5971 haha this is the truth you think? please come and live in the middle east and see their dictators then tell me who are the puppets

    • @exmusulmanagnostique746
      @exmusulmanagnostique746 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@baselnat93 Abstract no rla mazigh
      We have analyzed Y-chromosome diversity in the western Mediterranean area, examining p49a, f Taql haplotype V and subhaplotypes Vb (Berber) and Va (Arab). A total of 2,196 unrelated DNA samples, belonging to 22 populations from North Africa and the southern Mediterranean coast of occidental Europe, have been typed. Subhaplotype Vb, predominant in a Berber population of Morocco (63.5%), was also found at high frequencies in southern Portugal (35.9%) and Andalusia (25.4%). The Arab subhaplotype Va, predominant in Algeria (53.9%) and Tunisia (50.6%), was also found at a relatively high frequency in Sicily (23.1%) and Naples (16.4%); its highest frequency in Iberia was in northern Portugal (22.8%) and Andalusia (15.5%). In Iberia there is a gradient of decreasing frequencies in latitude for both subhaplotypes Va and Vb, related to eight centuries of Muslim domination (8th to 15th centuries) in southern Iberia.
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  • @JM-mr6lv
    @JM-mr6lv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Oh boy this is gonna turn out well.

    • @kovy689
      @kovy689 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      She looks like she has DS...
      If you know what I mean.

    • @superman8127
      @superman8127 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/MedwMMKEeSY/w-d-xo.html

  • @astralp4292
    @astralp4292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Big support to Tunisians and hopes for the success of their upcoming second revolution that will hopefully resolve the overlasting problems of this country

  • @SabakuNoGaara2023
    @SabakuNoGaara2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Actually, Ennahdha lost in the 2014 legislative elections and presidential elections (to Nidaa Tounes and Beji Caid Essebsi) but in 2019 they lost only the presidency and won the legislative elections (with only 52 seats out of 217).

  • @everythingisfine9988
    @everythingisfine9988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The result will be the same. The people will get crushed by Oligarchs

    • @marwanshamsia
      @marwanshamsia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pessimistic people, always fun to engage with them

    • @zohairbbbcchhhiir9748
      @zohairbbbcchhhiir9748 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@marwanshamsia actually it’s very realistic point of view

    • @TeddyKrimsony
      @TeddyKrimsony 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's the same in Europe and America. The rich always eat the poor.

  • @tellitlikeitis7305
    @tellitlikeitis7305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tunisia beautiful country things like this should be happening

  • @IKEMENOsakaman
    @IKEMENOsakaman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Tunisia is a beautiful country.

    • @DutchTunisian
      @DutchTunisian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im half tunisian and half dutch

    • @KAJOMA123
      @KAJOMA123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Was a great place is more accurate ,After electing a religious government I wonder what could possibly go wrong !

    • @latifaahmd9408
      @latifaahmd9408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KAJOMA123 religious gov ?? Do u people have any clue about politics in tunisia ??? What religious goverment are you talking about!

    • @MrAlen6e
      @MrAlen6e 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@latifaahmd9408 according to this report and other news sources there's still a lot of conservative resistance not allowing reforms

    • @carthagianqueen3181
      @carthagianqueen3181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KAJOMA123 religious government??.
      The current Tunisian government and parliament are democratic and they include both seculars and religious individuals
      ISLAMISTS themselves can't do anything in the government,they work with the others.
      The elected president is independent and the conservatives won more seats but they're still corporating with the rest in the gov.
      In Tunisia religious parties are not "that religious" infact we can just call them a little bit conservative which is against the Tunisian people's mentality in general
      Things will work better in the next elections hopefully,citizens learned from their previous mistakes

  • @Whoami1988_
    @Whoami1988_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    11:01 I didn't know that Vice interviewed Mohammed Salah too!!😲😲

  • @alidoukali540
    @alidoukali540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So humble lol XD 8:50 "it needs a hundreds or thousands of people like myself to tackle and win the battle"

    • @SabakuNoGaara2023
      @SabakuNoGaara2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think he meant it to come out like that 😂

  • @aymen_bhd
    @aymen_bhd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    We are young in democracy that's why
    🇹🇳

    • @jebbo-c1l
      @jebbo-c1l 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hopefully you'll get there eventually

    • @hemyarite.kingdom4070
      @hemyarite.kingdom4070 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And the only true democracy in the Arab world

    • @jacer5677
      @jacer5677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Aymen BEN HENDA
      the truth is that democracy/ liberalism and economic growth are two different and independent things. liberalism is just an ideology that helps some western men spread their power in the world. economic growth doesn't need democracy.

  • @mx2411
    @mx2411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yes, more freedom and liberty. Less government , power to the people.

    • @stormshadowp1581
      @stormshadowp1581 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yess like irak. And after that when there is a power vacuum why not.

  • @maliekjcksn
    @maliekjcksn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a roommate who was from Tunisia. I bet he's happy to be here in the U.S. rather than back in his home country where opportunities are limited.

  • @AnisJerbi
    @AnisJerbi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm from Tunisia, I'm actually in Djerba right now. This country is stuck, it will never change if it will continue this way.

    • @PHlophe
      @PHlophe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Faut pas etre pessimiste, wallah ca ira mieux au moins les langues se delient.

    • @millennialsgenerationmalay8591
      @millennialsgenerationmalay8591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I support & respect deeply my fellow Tunisians Friends.
      Yes fight for your country, unite all Tunisians & fight for your rights.

    • @AnisJerbi
      @AnisJerbi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@millennialsgenerationmalay8591 I'm atheist too. I will study in the US in 3 years.

    • @millennialsgenerationmalay8591
      @millennialsgenerationmalay8591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AnisJerbi ayeeee, me too lol.😂♥️🇲🇾🇹🇳🇺🇲

    • @AnisJerbi
      @AnisJerbi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@samiathabet1343 not to sound arrogant but I'm not most Tunisians...

  • @khaledtouaiti2973
    @khaledtouaiti2973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The tunisian revolution started in the football stadiums since 2007 until the end January 14th.

  • @AminAmin-pn1wl
    @AminAmin-pn1wl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why wasn't Sudan included in that Arab spring map intro either?

  • @youssefjmal5421
    @youssefjmal5421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It takes time to find stabilization, but it's the right path.
    God bless Tunisia my lovely country 🇹🇳 ✌️ ❤️

  • @tellitlikeitis7305
    @tellitlikeitis7305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's the bad government get rid of the bad government and increased wages get a government that cares for the people cuz it's the people that run the country and they will be okay

    • @DarkTruthPlatform
      @DarkTruthPlatform 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's more deeper than that
      So many uneducated people falling for cheap propaganda, electing failing governments.

  • @1900-u6u
    @1900-u6u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We in Algeria and Morocco need to follow Tunisia's example and make strides in abolishing arbitrary rule and lack of popular sovereignty. I feel the Tunisian revolution will not succeed unless the other larger Maghreb countries follow its example and all cooperate as a democratic block. Certain countries outside the region tried to abort the Tunisian revolution and are succeeding to some extent in Libya because North Africa's unity failed to defend its borders with the Middle East. Libya is right now a Middle Eastern offshoot thanks to Hafthar who will turn the country into a second Egypt (politically). The armies of Algeria and Morocco should have scattered Hafthar and snuffed out the possibility of Libya becoming a base from which to dim the democratic transformations taking shape to the west. What is going on in Libya is an emergency for the region that is being practically ignored.

  • @moMoeXe
    @moMoeXe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saidia Mosbah Button ❤️🇹🇳 We are all Tunisians from white to black - that is TUNISIA - No Color - No King - Just A Country of brotherhood

  • @hamzasyed
    @hamzasyed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I found that "To us, 300 people killed is not peaceful" comment a little condescending. I don't care where you're from - Syria, Iraq, Egypt or Libya - no one considers 300 people killed "peaceful".

    • @SikhoGuwa
      @SikhoGuwa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And they should be greatful only 300 died unlike others who lost thousands and some are in ruin with no clear future

    • @HeimTarch
      @HeimTarch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look at the death toll of most revolutions throughout history. wink wink french revolution for example. what she meant is that most revolutions have a far greater death toll but that doesn't make the Tunisian revolution with only 300 people killed peaceful, well, because every human life is important .

  • @tellitlikeitis7305
    @tellitlikeitis7305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The problem with time Tunisia is the government takes people for granted and they have to fight back it doesn't care about them because if you did it wouldn't be happening people have to fight back and I don't blame them wages should be better because it's a beautiful country if wages were better people wouldn't be angry people wouldn't be starving people wouldn't be looking for food or money so increase the wages to make it more better for the people and not have a selfish government that doesn't care for the people which he should

    • @bassemzammeli1553
      @bassemzammeli1553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It doesn't work we keep electing losers every time we had like 9 governments so far they all did pretty much the same thing they get in they make deals with the rich monopolies running the economy while taking as much money as they can corruption is so deep in the system it can't be fixed.

  • @jordanlaramore5430
    @jordanlaramore5430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Change takes time. The oldest democracies are still changing and haven't gotten it completely right because there's always something to improve in a democracy.

    • @barclay0876
      @barclay0876 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like who for example?

    • @TeddyKrimsony
      @TeddyKrimsony 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      democracy doesn't work, it is fake

    • @lovelyhomeboy2782
      @lovelyhomeboy2782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TeddyKrimsony I mean alot of democracies are here and they still havent collapsed

  • @safyr8279
    @safyr8279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    These people that talked in this interview do not represent us the street, the hood, next time if you want know what are real problems come to the hood

    • @Voodoochileish
      @Voodoochileish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ok you tell VICE how miserable everybody is and how the country is close to getting to a Libya situation. And then what?

    • @brahimmeddeb2255
      @brahimmeddeb2255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Voodoochileish that’s called the truth , this documentary just scratched the surface of corruption in tunisia

  • @megasaif66
    @megasaif66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    thats what happen when you mix religion and politics

    • @TheEpiCool
      @TheEpiCool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Religion and politics are one and the same

    • @underscoreellipsesdothyphe1563
      @underscoreellipsesdothyphe1563 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I read in the daily fail that whoever got in after they overthrew was himself overthrown by his defence secretary which I thought was hilarious. Politics and religion shouldn't mix but they always have and always will, same way people will use Christianity as a political tool in America and the UK because whether or not you believe in religion, it still drives alot of people and people use the (real or not real) belief of "God" (/ Allah etc) as justification for their actions ( attitudes towards gays, attitudes towards the West etc) and people's "faith" is why they will act a certain way because they believe whatever their scripture is is canon. The only religion that *should* be in politics though is Buddhism, all the others suck

    • @user-ob8by7nh4g
      @user-ob8by7nh4g 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those who govern hold the gun to your head
      With religions, corporations, proud of the blood they've shed
      Whether it's God or the bomb, it's just the same
      It's only fear under another name

    • @folken1761
      @folken1761 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's what happens when you want to force out the people's faith from the organization of their everyday life

    • @Aggoenix
      @Aggoenix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheEpiCool No? I absolutely disagree with you. Politics and religion are quite separated in civilised countries except for example Saudi Arabia or Poland.

  • @ghzelmohamed4901
    @ghzelmohamed4901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the problem is not anymore "freedom" .. it is "economic"!!

  • @Tunisianbeauties
    @Tunisianbeauties 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Down with the socialist economic system

  • @TheShpmusic
    @TheShpmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Notting will ever change. 👍

    • @al_caponeh6185
      @al_caponeh6185 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unless we force them change .

    • @tnasr3254
      @tnasr3254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You should change your name to Nihilism

    • @carthagianqueen3181
      @carthagianqueen3181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If nothing changes we will force it to

    • @TheShpmusic
      @TheShpmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@carthagianqueen3181 and how are you planning on doing that.😜

    • @Dimebag017
      @Dimebag017 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      With less people like you, we can do better 😎

  • @germancreatives88
    @germancreatives88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How Tunisia became Arab, they lost their identity of Carthaganian like the great Hannibal Barca

    • @pilowmonster
      @pilowmonster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because the arabs invaded the region and spread islam so they can centralize their power from the Arabian peninsula. The arabs are no different to the French in tunisia

  • @Voodoochileish
    @Voodoochileish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ok. Cool report. How does this serve us Tunisians anyway?... It doesn't. If anything, it will make it even more difficult. Showing the terrorism narrative from 7 years ago, isn't going to help us in any way. Nobody other than tunisian themselves really care about Tunisia. I've never understood why some of the tunisian activists love sharing their feelings with foreign media. What is it what we're seeking? Pity? Empathy? ok, and then what? In practice, nobody would watch this video and think "oh I'd really love to spend my holidays in Tunisia". Do we want foreign intervention? Nope. If anything, this serves a really ancient narrative of a region being in crisis and the west would get involved to "save the day". Pathetic

  • @millennialsgenerationmalay8591
    @millennialsgenerationmalay8591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Much love & all support for the Tunisians!♥️🇹🇳.
    Fight for your country my fellow Tunisians Friends!
    I support freedom of speech, Freedom of religion, freedom from religion, freedom of choice & LGBTQ+ rights for all Malaysians/Humanity♥️🇲🇾🇹🇳

    • @jacowatki152
      @jacowatki152 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I support freedom to practice Islam and resist the secular oppressors of Muslims☝☝

  • @Sksk27547
    @Sksk27547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Going to jail for having in your pocket less than 100 grams of marijuana for personal use is just plain stupid law.

    • @PHlophe
      @PHlophe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spaso, tons of blackamericans are in jail for this but in 2021 , it has become trendy to consume marijane to be hippy

  • @brannenthompson9662
    @brannenthompson9662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    8:50 I think his comment on violence is the most intellectual view of our society today.

  • @ShobeirSheida
    @ShobeirSheida 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm glad they are able to be politically active in their country. In many other countries it is not even possible to be active.

    • @sudarshan3965
      @sudarshan3965 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For example?

    • @ShobeirSheida
      @ShobeirSheida 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@sudarshan3965 In many countries, the ruling government doesn't allow any activity that is not in line with the political establishment. You can easily see some examples by searching for "world political freedom".

  • @pokydelaflame3983
    @pokydelaflame3983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    dont be fooled by the arab spring, it bringed nothing than misery in tunisia, im tunisian and live in tunisia and i know what im talkin about, before it was 1000 better, despite what the world think democracy is a bad thing in arab countries

    • @TeddyKrimsony
      @TeddyKrimsony 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it's the same in Eastern Europe, our economies were better before the revolutions.

    • @shauncameron8390
      @shauncameron8390 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TeddyKrimsony
      Thanks to Soviet aid.

  • @vonbarnes2700
    @vonbarnes2700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vice News Vice News hahaha Voce News baby 🔥💯

  • @apotebill
    @apotebill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It seems as everyone is tired of the government everywhere in the world. Who do they work for?

  • @delgar5979
    @delgar5979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have heard of Mohamad bwazizi for years... what did he look like? How do you spell his name?

    • @samiryahiaoui
      @samiryahiaoui 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The picture held at 0:21 is Mohamed Bouazizi. Multiple spelling are possible but the most common is the one i used.

  • @omarhachicha5107
    @omarhachicha5107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Video was honest and all till 10:45 that's when the journalist showed her true colors that she doesn't understand anything about what happened and happening in tunisia , u can see it even by the people she interviewed : a small minority .

  • @thereal6131
    @thereal6131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    14:40 sounds just like the good ole USA!

    • @thereal6131
      @thereal6131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What’s population have anything to do with it?
      We are still marginalizing communities to keep them in poverty amongst other things that were said

    • @thereal6131
      @thereal6131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Viva Mojito is missing the point

    • @AsiaMinor12
      @AsiaMinor12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thereal6131 I think he's just adding context, I'm pretty sure he knows what you are saying.

    • @thereal6131
      @thereal6131 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AsiaMinor12 I don’t think so otherwise he would not have added a smart ass comment

  • @salmac4734
    @salmac4734 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done, it really describes everything beautifully

  • @proofy25
    @proofy25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Arab world is so boring at this point. It doesn't have that intrigue it did even a few years ago. I think most people now are just cringed by it. And clearly there is something wrong with the society as a whole over there, you just can't just blame the rulers like this is some sort of cartoon. Those same rulers are cut from the same cloth as the people. Perhaps try being honest, kind and friendly to each other and maybe, just maybe your situation may improve. I don't even think Vice should be wasting time on stuff like this, it's the same tired story for years and years. They will get a new government and a few years later will begin fighting again. There is something rotten to the core over there, let them figure it out. Quit giving them attention though, it just fuels their insanity.

    • @brikifarah3271
      @brikifarah3271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dude, are you okay ? who hurt you ?

    • @proofy25
      @proofy25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@brikifarah3271 I'm fine, thanks for asking! I hope you try to understand that I'm not here to bash the Arab world, there was a time when I was actually sympathetic to their plight. As I got older I came to see that the vast majority of their problems are their own doing. And I think you answered the question on why that region is so messed, because people hurt each other a lot over there, and this most likely stems from the family/parenting.

    • @thecamarade424
      @thecamarade424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@proofy25 urtalking pure truth man well said..👏im from tunisia 🇹🇳 btw

    • @brikifarah3271
      @brikifarah3271 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thecamarade424 7achamtna ya camarade.. normal y9olek quit giving them attention.. ? 3leh bebe yebki 9odemou a7na ?

    • @brikifarah3271
      @brikifarah3271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "Boring" and "cringed by it" and lost its intrigue.. dude we re people not a god damn tv show

  • @general_pinochet
    @general_pinochet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never expect secularism in a islamic majority

  • @sisygambis.
    @sisygambis. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is exactly what happened in every single muslim country that had revolution in 20th/21st century. A semi-secular regime that was quite repressive was overthrown and an islamofascist party took power and killed and destroyed all the good things and all the problems remained. the problem with us from iran to algeria is that no one has the balls to point the real source of problem: islam. until islam rules violance and facism will continue in middle east and north africa

    • @mostfire8764
      @mostfire8764 ปีที่แล้ว

      Image being a ret**d that think islam and fascism is the same thing

    • @sisygambis.
      @sisygambis. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mostfire8764 cope

  • @pellet4er320
    @pellet4er320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you get to the roots of it's the frenchs fault period. France we don't want you meddling in our bussiness and politik, rather we replace all the french things with the US to be honest. And english change french as the second language to english like our brothers in Algeria did, who the f needs french theese days anyway.✌️✌️

  • @polybiusv7299
    @polybiusv7299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    we know what started it but what was the ignition? I cant be the only one who thought that was hilarious but also rude. The guy set himself on fire

    • @ProtoType5eagle
      @ProtoType5eagle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah i found that ironic as well. I expected it to be a top comment, i guess not many people noticed.

  • @ghzelmohamed4901
    @ghzelmohamed4901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    libya , iraq , yemen , syria are destroyed by the arab spring ... only tunisia survived !!

  • @SimonHillKeepsItTrill
    @SimonHillKeepsItTrill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    تونس قلبي

  • @gharbiafawez9735
    @gharbiafawez9735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3ak3ak Vice

  • @nourallahfliss881
    @nourallahfliss881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This aged so bad in just 8 months…

  • @samirmullins846
    @samirmullins846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ben Ali living KSA, not anymore....

  • @TheHarrysilke
    @TheHarrysilke 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great intro

  • @PR3M1UM
    @PR3M1UM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    اللهُّم لا تجعل الدُنيا أكبر همنا ولا مَبلغ علمنا ولا إلى النار مصيرنا ، وأجعل الجنّة هي دارنا وقرارنا ، اللهُّم إنا نعوذ بك من زوال نعمتك وتحول عافيتك ومن فجائة نقمتك ، ومن جميع سخطك يارب العالمين

  • @manonthemoontkg6157
    @manonthemoontkg6157 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this is what happens when you give the people to much freedom, they are going to rebell no matterer the situation.

    • @hankramo1196
      @hankramo1196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So what democracy takes time to establish itself after 50 years of dictatorship

  • @yassinbahri98
    @yassinbahri98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great little documentary but bassem and the red-haired woman does not represent the tunisian majority.. It's so funny the things they are saying nothing of it is true.. A bit disappointed in vice for the lack of research they did.. If they asked ayoub or bawsla the could've given them more correct information.

  • @DillonRust
    @DillonRust 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Carthage strikes again, 2,000 years later

    • @adamt1530
      @adamt1530 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't 3000?

    • @malekaltayari3936
      @malekaltayari3936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      we will come back and stronger
      🗡⚔🔥the sons of Carthage Never surrender 🔥🗡⚔

  • @elshazlio
    @elshazlio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    16:20 Did she just call ISIS a project

    • @bushtactics4936
      @bushtactics4936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      she did because it is, it's an oil business, after all, people are getting huge amounts of money to join, promises that they will take care of families. it was a project to destabilize the middle east and north Africa and rob our natural resources.

    • @elshazlio
      @elshazlio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bushtactics4936 Makes a lot of sense when you put it that way. I didn't imagine she would make such an astute remark in passing, without delving deeper into what it meant.

  • @abubakralbaghdadi6649
    @abubakralbaghdadi6649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Waiting for the american spring lol

    • @ThisIsTheWay76
      @ThisIsTheWay76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No need to wait, Sir. It began last year (actually began in the 1960’s)

    • @justforfun-jp2vc
      @justforfun-jp2vc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      reoccupy 2021

    • @rarebreed4512
      @rarebreed4512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThisIsTheWay76 ok, im glad somebody let this guy know...

    • @HusXX
      @HusXX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @P4to D0l4n Americans will soon fight each other again like in the past and hopefully geographically divide in more countries.

  • @sydclark5581
    @sydclark5581 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    LOL, my comment was deleted regarding previos "incident" on a Tunisian beach.
    We shouldn't be getting involved (again) with these "uprisings".

    • @ellihowa2365
      @ellihowa2365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tunisia's revolution was inevitable and western countries are not really involved in it.. The dictator had to leave. I have never seen the people angry and united against someone like him.
      However, western countries were heavily involved in all other uprisings.
      As for beach incident, that was 6 years ago and today Tunisia is as safe as most European countries and tourists were arriving before Covid.

    • @sydclark5581
      @sydclark5581 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ellihowa2365 I can't think of any other European country were tourists were massacred whilst sunbathing on the beach.

    • @ellihowa2365
      @ellihowa2365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sydclark5581 That is not my point. The 2015 beach incident was a pattern of terrorist attacks. These terrorist attacks happen everywhere. In France only they had in the same year: Île de France attacks and the infamous November Paris attacks (+100 dead): Bataclan theatre massacre (mass shooting, hostage-taking, bombings)...
      Nowadays Tunisia is safe except of course regions near the Libyan and Algerian frontiers.

    • @sydclark5581
      @sydclark5581 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ellihowa2365 We're going really off topic now, so I'm gonna end my participation in this thread.
      If you want to promote Tunisia, good for you 👍
      I'd rather holiday in EVERY other European country.

    • @ellihowa2365
      @ellihowa2365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sydclark5581 Not sure why are you being so salty. I dont recall writing an essay to stick to "a topic", we are on TH-cam. I never said visting European countries is a no no. I was stating unfortunate facts about terrorism in Europe and Tunisia.
      France is level 3 according to US department of state
      travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/france-travel-advisory.html
      So is Tunisia
      travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/tunisia-travel-advisory.html
      The risk is always present everywhere..
      Peace

  • @HM-mw7cg
    @HM-mw7cg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would have loved for them to use a young Tunisian presenter for this, instead of a random journalist from the Middle East (not North Africa)

  • @superrorem0
    @superrorem0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i wonder why vice never adds the english subtitles

  • @AaBb-dp7yg
    @AaBb-dp7yg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It wouldn't be Vice, if they would't involve feminist somehow. 6:56 women are always on the frontline.. Literally on every other footage in video it's men who are on the front. You are not the lokomotive you are just a small part of it.

  • @davidminhvo3326
    @davidminhvo3326 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    might wanna put an voting threshold on your election your parliament looks like the rainbow sprinkles on my morning donut :)

  • @yyediixiv9511
    @yyediixiv9511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We are lucky Because we dont have oil

  • @emilcoelho1536
    @emilcoelho1536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Only ppl who will make profit is USA and Toyota from this if anything happens like what happens in 2011 i pray it doesn't happen

  • @matthewmann8969
    @matthewmann8969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tunisians, Moroccans, Libyans, Algerians, And Egyptians need a solo North African Union

    • @adolfhsouna
      @adolfhsouna 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tunisians hate Egyptians so much they dont have to unite trust me

    • @ellihowa2365
      @ellihowa2365 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adolfhsouna we dont hate them. We are just too different and we dont agree on anything.

    • @ellihowa2365
      @ellihowa2365 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too much political differences, such union is unlikely.

    • @Heo_Ashrafenko
      @Heo_Ashrafenko 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ellihowa2365 let's pretend that Egyptians and Tunisians meet in anything other than Ahly/Zamalek vs Esperance, how can you say we don't agree on anything when there are no instances of things to even meet on? Like does that make sense? 😂 No land or maritime borders, no economic ties, no shared geopolitics

  • @Reina-in9zk
    @Reina-in9zk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We wish it wasn't called Arab Spring

  • @kamalalgahim8520
    @kamalalgahim8520 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice they showed yemen

  • @lukasvilla2657
    @lukasvilla2657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After talking about the guy that set himself on fire :"What's the reason behind the ignition in the first place " no pun intended

  • @ahmedharagy2277
    @ahmedharagy2277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your report is too much baios to ward 1 side

  • @manazon6945
    @manazon6945 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    But what happened here!

  • @michaelowino228
    @michaelowino228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HI

  • @oneangrymelon
    @oneangrymelon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only interviewee who expresses a clear view of the situation is Ayubi Jyoti. He clearly defines the problem is the ideology of those in power before and in power now: that they are almost functionally the same, while the others who were interviewed don't have a strong ideological position and so don't present any solutions to the political problems. The human rights, feminist, and re-immigrated protester with no affiliation present no vision for justice or equality. Because they don't have a strong understanding of their own politics beyond focus of their individual campaigns (and some ill-defined concept of democracy) they can't organize the people behind an ideology with a clear path forward to provide for people. So instead in these situations the move is from conservative dictators to other conservatives or neoliberals- none of which have interest in providing for the people. These politicians are aligned with the wealthy and protect that wealth by maintaining order instead of seeking justice for struggling people. Nothing will change until these activists choose a clear path to progress by educating the people about a revolutionary program in worker control of the state.

  • @halitosis75
    @halitosis75 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember being in tunis the first October November post tunisian spring and what surprised and concerned me about tunisia was the Graffiti on the surrounding walls of the medina.
    I remember military presence tanks ak47 soldiers outside the medina and thinking this arab spring won't be over for a very long time.
    May peace return to tunisia one day.
    Inshallah

    • @nadhembk9030
      @nadhembk9030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      that sounds like an inspiring pile of bullshit considering that the tunisian army uses the austrian AUG styer not AK47s .
      cut the crap dude.

  • @soul4ymen
    @soul4ymen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    14:12??????????????

  • @trevorlastname2139
    @trevorlastname2139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I marry Tunisia women's oh yes I like the Tunisia women's

  • @konanhonim3111
    @konanhonim3111 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Democracy in Muslim country has a hard Time.
    Let's give it another shot

    • @ellihowa2365
      @ellihowa2365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tunisia is already a democracy

  • @cutscenes3399
    @cutscenes3399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the real state called Esperance Sportive Tunis

  • @morjenaboutique6745
    @morjenaboutique6745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    انا ما فهمتش العالم الكل يحكي بلغتو كان المناظر هاذي اللي خارجه من قشرتها،احكي بالتونسي و ترجم بالكتيبة ماللوطة.

  • @amirmekk9649
    @amirmekk9649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    definitely the most one sided view 'documentary' that I have ever seen.

  • @WaffleSSSSSPLUS
    @WaffleSSSSSPLUS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    well they get what they asked for, also its a great they drew a parallel with this and other riots, good example to show what happens when you dont crack down

  • @DeitritusFillamore
    @DeitritusFillamore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t get what’s the issue. That is how democracy works. You vote and whoever wins, you accept the results. All these people seem to be whining because the party they don’t like keeps winning. That’s democracy for you and Arabs need to stop revolting every time they don’t like the election results.

  • @sorrybro4890
    @sorrybro4890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Joe sleepy joe where are uuuu

    • @SikhoGuwa
      @SikhoGuwa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he is still in the basement getting a much needed nap

  • @ghaithfou5503
    @ghaithfou5503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In this God forsaken country no one will survive

    • @kovy689
      @kovy689 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      She looks like she has DS.

    • @jimy_rizu
      @jimy_rizu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We are God's creation, we will topple.🙏🙏

  • @speedhackv2505
    @speedhackv2505 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    RJVX12 algorithm is the best, there is no point in arguing with this

  • @jpsimas2
    @jpsimas2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Carthago delenda est

    • @malekaltayari3936
      @malekaltayari3936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      we will come back and stronger
      🗡⚔🔥the sons of Carthage Never surrender 🔥🗡⚔

    • @kb-tu2kf
      @kb-tu2kf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Samson and Delenda

  • @410_jav
    @410_jav 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shouldn’t a reporter be pretty

  • @Bananaboi-uq9ph
    @Bananaboi-uq9ph 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    E

  • @kawschung9413
    @kawschung9413 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The typical piano distally communicate because eagle counterintuitively visit below a rustic bubble. bashful, efficacious staircase

  • @darcolow330
    @darcolow330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who cares

  • @hoplayvercekirge641
    @hoplayvercekirge641 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys you didnt know about RJVX12?