What is so great about this little discussion (for me) is that it makes me realise how I've been overcomplicating playing over changes for years and years. I mean, if you can find that root note of the change, and you know the intervals (whether major or minor) in the chords, then you can kinda nail those changes quite quickly and efficiently. It's an incredibly simple way to view the fretboard and to break out of "box" playing.
I was watching Pete's stream today and asked him what his thoughts on Tom Quayle are, and after a lot of high praise he mentioned this lesson, and I have to say, this was an excellent watch. What a couple of class acts!
This video is solid frigging gold, especially when stagnation sets in with normal practice routines. The advice here is as useful for highly skilled guitarists as it is for beginners. Quayle is a beast and Pete Thorn is asking all the right questions. Perfect pairing. Honestly, it's been a while since I've caught a guitar lesson (based around the fundamentals) that isn't just some repetitive 'do-this-do-that' nonsense, or thew ubiquitous prog acolyte blasting through mindless, monotonous scales and shapes. Great stuff. Stellar, if I'm honest. Highly recommended.
Great show Pete. Man, Tom can take 3 notes, move them around in different spots, at a laid back speed... still will drop most people's jaw. He is really amazing.
This stuff is gold... We get stuck in those boxes at first then realize that we just need to follow the formula - difficult at first - but with time you learn the fretboard
Incredibly inspiring and I definitely think I've been guilty of trying to practice too much at once and getting no where - makes so much sense and I kind of kick myself for not having thought of it!!! Thank you!
Thx so much Tom & Pete you just gave us probably the most important lesson that any serious musician should understand N think about 4 a while N this is about the sonic essence of intervals N eventually when you'll master this ...scales' box will be just miles away from your mind !!!
I've been kind of in a rut lately but yesterday I changed my practice routine and it's already way more fun to play. I didn't really have a routine before, I just practiced songs I knew or learned a new song. But now I start with an easy song that I'm good at, then do like 10 or 15 minutes of exercises, then practice new songs or learn a new song, ending it with a newish song that I'm pretty good at playing. It's so much better. I heard so many people say to do it but for some stupid reason I never tried. If you're like me, stop wasting your time and try it.
This is such a gift, thank you guys so much for taking the time to explain these practicing processes we can apply and also for sharing your passion so we can also learn :) very grateful
Thank you both for the best advice I have ever heard to help me become a better guitar player. I don't think I will ever be nearly as wonderful a player as either of you but I know I will be better than I am now after listening to your wise instructions. Thanks.
I was searching for this video/advice for over 4 years. My theory knowledge is pretty poor although I have been playing for 10 years. I had a guitar teacher for a while and he did show me some theory but he never taught me why I need the theory for improvisation and how to approach the neck. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I will be buying some lessons from Tom and Martin Miller!
I saw the other side of this (on Tom's) and it was awesome, delving on the psychological part of it. Been a fan of Claus Levin for a long while and will definitively check this out. Like I said to Jason Mcnamara on his interview with Tom: you guys are changing the face of music on how musicians are perceived, very interesting and...Thank You all!!!
I'm 10 minutes in and I've got to stop because I should really do some work today. This video has given me so much to practice and think about and maybe the first approach to fretboard mastery that sounds realistic and achievable. Toms approach to scale shapes and moving around the fretboard seems to be what I'm doing (although a little more formalised). Find the root and repeat... I need to know the intervals though because at the moment I'm spotting the visual shape without any real understanding of the intervalic relationship. Thanks guys, will watch the rest of this later. That pentatonic run Tom does that makes you giggle, Pete! What a player... what a pair of players... now THAT would be an album Quayle and Thorn...
Hey Pete your awesome ! I just recently fell and screwed up my guitarhand and being 60 I have to play now with pain all the time but hey Im going to do it and practice simple things like you were mentioning
The really cool thing - the guys are all already awesome by themselves... - but if you watch Pete and Tom here - (and check out the other sessions at GuitCon) - what comes out of that interaction and collaboration - amazing!! - There is so much to be taken from these videos.. - now you come to realize what great thing Henning (Pauly - HP42) did in getting this organized ... - hope it can be repeated!! - And yes, Pete - we need a Tom and Pete guitar show... - and a Pete and David... - and and ...
Very Informative Guitar Lesson for Beginner and Intermediate players. Love that Woodwork on Tom Quayle's Guitar! (Brand, Model?) Also, I really enjoyed Pete Thorn's Guitar Solo playing on the Music links in the description. ! Thanks and Thumbs Up!
Wow! This was informative and entertaining to watch! I gathered so much from this lesson chat! Keep it up Pete and Tom! 2 amazing and humble guitar players!🎸🎶👏🏼😅
This is my exact thoughts whenever I pick up my guitar. “How can I make the most out of my time practicing and is what I’m doing actually improving my playing or am I just doing the same shit over and over with no improvement. Thanks for posting this 👍🏽
It's a little bit of a shame about the audio, but Christ almighty is Tom Quayle an incredible player. So clean and smooth. Y'all need to get together more. :D
cam audio- we had to do it wherever we could find a space (which was tough), when we had a free hour.... work with me here! It basically sounds like what it sounded like in the room- pretend you are in the conference room with us haha
Pete Thorn Haha, I figured as much. Honestly it's some great content, not meaning to be critical. Lord knows how hard it must be to find a quiet spot during a guitar convention. :P
Best thing for my lead guitar has been learning other people's licks and solos, while also learning the chords and notes of the progressions behind them (not just one genre or style either). It forces me to learn techniques, timing and note choices i would not normally consider, or tend to steer clear of. I will hear a solo and think wow, I have to learn that. I get bored playing it very quickly, but adsorb so much from doing it. It adds to my own style that grew from learning all those stock blues and rock licks in major and minor pentatonic with the odd extra note chucked in. Learning the chords supporting the lick or solo helps me understand why certain notes work so well. I have learned and applied modal theory several times, but it never sticks. Some good stuff comes out of modes though. If I have to play D mixo, I will play e natural minor with tonic of D. Seems to work and is easier than thinking in major scales, alothough no teacher will recommend it. I prefer to just play instinctively by the experience of knowing what works and what does not. if stuck for an idea, I either stop, or i repeat (or pick slide etc hehe) I have also practiced both that whole note upstroke thing to a beat and Petes bending to pitch exercise, i.e little phrase followed by a bend to pitch, or the other way around. They helped for sure. Tom's taking the finding the note all over the fret board and expanding it to intervals is something i am about to try now. Well, as soon as the coffee kicks in.
Pete, any chance you could do a show about manipulating guitar controls (volume, tone, pickup selector) on the three classic types of guitars (LP, Strat and Tele)? Something about how to get the most variety of tones from these guitars and in what kind of situations they work well in your opinion?
Guitar Of Doom .... or, very nearly - once these two guys get done showing the rest of us how the thing really gets played it may very well be!! These two just keep getting better as players over the years, amazing.
Damn, Quayle is that where those chops come from? Tuning your guitar in straight 4ths? It always seemed like a good idea, but I was always told that results can be futile. Ps that is a pretty interesting way to get acclimated with the fretboard. That M3rd on the b kinda throws off the fretboard making it less intuitive.
this stuff is golden these guys just unlocked the whole fretboard for you
What is so great about this little discussion (for me) is that it makes me realise how I've been overcomplicating playing over changes for years and years. I mean, if you can find that root note of the change, and you know the intervals (whether major or minor) in the chords, then you can kinda nail those changes quite quickly and efficiently. It's an incredibly simple way to view the fretboard and to break out of "box" playing.
You two are individually amazing. Together you have a really relaxed and educated co-teaching vibe. More please, Pete and Tom.
Ridiculous amount of GOLD in this video. And I agree... Tom would be great on the Tim and Pete show.
I was watching Pete's stream today and asked him what his thoughts on Tom Quayle are, and after a lot of high praise he mentioned this lesson, and I have to say, this was an excellent watch. What a couple of class acts!
This video is solid frigging gold, especially when stagnation sets in with normal practice routines. The advice here is as useful for highly skilled guitarists as it is for beginners. Quayle is a beast and Pete Thorn is asking all the right questions. Perfect pairing. Honestly, it's been a while since I've caught a guitar lesson (based around the fundamentals) that isn't just some repetitive 'do-this-do-that' nonsense, or thew ubiquitous prog acolyte blasting through mindless, monotonous scales and shapes. Great stuff. Stellar, if I'm honest. Highly recommended.
I’m glad you liked it! I really enjoyed it too, and it was super off the cuff and spontaneous, the way it went down
Great show Pete. Man, Tom can take 3 notes, move them around in different spots, at a laid back speed... still will drop most people's jaw. He is really amazing.
Unreal how cool it is to have you two as guitar teachers, if at least for a few minutes. Thank you.
Roman Ferrer n
I cant believe how amazing this was. Them rebounding thoughts of eachother on specific skills. Pls more of you two!!!
That's the most agreeable tone I've heard Tom use. Very organic.
There is so much gold in this vid... Great lesson guys!
It’s hard not to smile like a kid when Tom heads off on one of those legato runs! The guy is incredible.
Congrats on 100k subs! Should have happened a long time ago! You deserve it. Thank you for everything Pete. This was another great one!
Tom Quale is so smooth that even doors want to get closer to listen to him.
Two of today's best guitar expositors.
This stuff is gold...
We get stuck in those boxes at first then realize that we just need to follow the formula - difficult at first - but with time you learn the fretboard
Incredibly inspiring and I definitely think I've been guilty of trying to practice too much at once and getting no where - makes so much sense and I kind of kick myself for not having thought of it!!! Thank you!
Two of my favorite players! I just found this vid and the way Tom just unpacked the fretboard and intervals = MIND BLOWN!!!
Watched this a couple of times now and so many things have just clicked into place! Thank you guys.
The tips about practice are really helpful, I'm doing a bit too much at once at the moment, and not enough focus. Great video!
You guys have great chemistry.
Thx so much Tom & Pete you just gave us probably the most important lesson that any serious musician should understand N think about 4 a while N this is about the sonic essence of intervals N eventually when you'll master this ...scales' box will be just miles away from your mind !!!
Thanks for this. This help me out tremendously. I've been getting lost in the massiveness of learning. Now, I have direction to focus. Thanks
Great info guys. Probably the most informative and potentially productive instruction I have seen on the Tube this year. You are both such class acts!
Great instruction from two masters! You guys both have a knack for teaching the mental side of practicing and playing guitar!
I've been kind of in a rut lately but yesterday I changed my practice routine and it's already way more fun to play. I didn't really have a routine before, I just practiced songs I knew or learned a new song. But now I start with an easy song that I'm good at, then do like 10 or 15 minutes of exercises, then practice new songs or learn a new song, ending it with a newish song that I'm pretty good at playing. It's so much better. I heard so many people say to do it but for some stupid reason I never tried. If you're like me, stop wasting your time and try it.
This is going to be one of those vid's that I'll save and keep coming back too over and over again. Very COOL, thanks guys!!
So happy that a couple of guitarist used ‘Guitcon’ as a teaching opportunity! Great stuff
That was inspiring! It's always nice to have someone telling you to get things simpler and slower :) Thank you!!!
This is such a gift, thank you guys so much for taking the time to explain these practicing processes we can apply and also for sharing your passion so we can also learn :) very grateful
A lot of awesome stuff packed into 20 minutes. Great job Pete and Tom.
Just the most perfect advice I've heard from Tom before yet not practised enough.....but my next session with my looper I'm going to do this!!
Thank you both for the best advice I have ever heard to help me become a better guitar player. I don't think I will ever be nearly as wonderful a player as either of you but I know I will be better than I am now after listening to your wise instructions. Thanks.
Love this video....I've been stuck in the box shapes and going nowhere. Very helpful....please post more like this!
TQ is an extraordinary player - and plays with ease and progressive vision. Wow!
Great video guys. Love me some Pete and Tom. Both of you are such great teachers and I have leaned a lot from you two
One of the best explanations for simple phrasing concepts that gets you out of the boxes
What great advice! If only I had Tom Quayle as a guitar teacher 35 years ago.....who knows??
7:27 Great tip. Never heard this one before. Thanks Pete!
This rules. I need to practice now.
R.J. Ronquillo Guitar your already a monster player
like your humility R.J. You're a great player
Good advice in this vid.
I was searching for this video/advice for over 4 years. My theory knowledge is pretty poor although I have been playing for 10 years. I had a guitar teacher for a while and he did show me some theory but he never taught me why I need the theory for improvisation and how to approach the neck.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I will be buying some lessons from Tom and Martin Miller!
I saw the other side of this (on Tom's) and it was awesome, delving on the psychological part of it. Been a fan of Claus Levin for a long while and will definitively check this out. Like I said to Jason Mcnamara on his interview with Tom: you guys are changing the face of music on how musicians are perceived, very interesting and...Thank You all!!!
I’m enjoying every one of these combinations.
Thanks guys, this is one of the best lessons I’ve watched in a while.
I'm 10 minutes in and I've got to stop because I should really do some work today. This video has given me so much to practice and think about and maybe the first approach to fretboard mastery that sounds realistic and achievable.
Toms approach to scale shapes and moving around the fretboard seems to be what I'm doing (although a little more formalised). Find the root and repeat... I need to know the intervals though because at the moment I'm spotting the visual shape without any real understanding of the intervalic relationship.
Thanks guys, will watch the rest of this later.
That pentatonic run Tom does that makes you giggle, Pete! What a player... what a pair of players... now THAT would be an album Quayle and Thorn...
Peter (and everyone) great volume and variety of GitCon content!
best 23 minutes video on youtube. please make more lessons
Love it: thinking in intervals a great way to expand fret board road map
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!!! Can't believe this is free. Great advice.
Hey Pete your awesome ! I just recently fell and screwed up my guitarhand and being 60 I have to play now with pain all the time but hey Im going to do it and practice simple things like you were mentioning
Wish I could've put a thousand likes to this. Gamechanging concept!
Having a good teacher is useful to stay focused on one thing at a time to improve.
That was exceptional!!!! Thank you . Slow is Fast, Focused is Fast!!! I get it now
Tom is one of the best guitar player on TH-cam
This is terrific! What a great lesson! Excellent. Thank you for this great info.
Tom is totally amazing,I'm blown away by his playing,I wish I had that ability!!!
The really cool thing - the guys are all already awesome by themselves... - but if you watch Pete and Tom here - (and check out the other sessions at GuitCon) - what comes out of that interaction and collaboration - amazing!! - There is so much to be taken from these videos.. - now you come to realize what great thing Henning (Pauly - HP42) did in getting this organized ... - hope it can be repeated!! - And yes, Pete - we need a Tom and Pete guitar show... - and a Pete and David... - and and ...
This was an amazing video, a lot of useful information. Nice work!
pete is a monster player and is in awe of tom....great video
Awesome video from two awesome players! Thanks for the fantastic information!!
Very Informative Guitar Lesson for Beginner and Intermediate players. Love that Woodwork on Tom Quayle's Guitar! (Brand, Model?) Also, I really enjoyed Pete Thorn's Guitar Solo playing on the Music links in the description. ! Thanks and Thumbs Up!
Wow! This was informative and entertaining to watch! I gathered so much from this lesson chat! Keep it up Pete and Tom! 2 amazing and humble guitar players!🎸🎶👏🏼😅
Really interesting lesson. I don't really have a problem finding way around the fretboard but this surely puts a different spin on things
Fantastic, FANTASTIC Video! I'm a huge fan of you both. Thank you for this one.
Great show Pete and great guest!
Wow thank you for this video! This is like the single best lesson for me personally.
Tom is one of the best improvisers ever.
Tom is a great player and a gentleman.
Pete is no less.
Great insight guys
Thanks, Pete & Tom. This type of content is very valuable.
Man im so late to this video !! You guys are great dudes, and As always so much insight.
Definitely tiny bit of a information makes huge different. Surely i will follow the rules. Thank you both for bringing up this video.
wow...great video, great lesson! I feel like this lesson right here really helped me a ton!!! Two great players!
This is my exact thoughts whenever I pick up my guitar. “How can I make the most out of my time practicing and is what I’m doing actually improving my playing or am I just doing the same shit over and over with no improvement. Thanks for posting this 👍🏽
thanks, Tom really shared some valuable info here, I learned a lot!
Pete Thorn no doubt! Toms the man! When’s the classic rock show comin to San Jose California!
Excellent video Pete. Very entertaining and educational. You have a great channel my friend. BTW love your signature model!!
It's a little bit of a shame about the audio, but Christ almighty is Tom Quayle an incredible player. So clean and smooth. Y'all need to get together more. :D
cam audio- we had to do it wherever we could find a space (which was tough), when we had a free hour.... work with me here! It basically sounds like what it sounded like in the room- pretend you are in the conference room with us haha
Pete Thorn Haha, I figured as much. Honestly it's some great content, not meaning to be critical. Lord knows how hard it must be to find a quiet spot during a guitar convention. :P
What are 3 main thing to practice daily on guitar as a beginner Tom - been working allot on scale patterns and spider exercises and power chords 🎸
Tom is amazing indeed!
Great video! You asked great questions... I struggle a lot with that information overload-thing.
Loved the interaction and the connection - Thanks guys great lesson.
Two Awesome musicians!!!
Best thing for my lead guitar has been learning other people's licks and solos, while also learning the chords and notes of the progressions behind them (not just one genre or style either). It forces me to learn techniques, timing and note choices i would not normally consider, or tend to steer clear of.
I will hear a solo and think wow, I have to learn that. I get bored playing it very quickly, but adsorb so much from doing it. It adds to my own style that grew from learning all those stock blues and rock licks in major and minor pentatonic with the odd extra note chucked in. Learning the chords supporting the lick or solo helps me understand why certain notes work so well.
I have learned and applied modal theory several times, but it never sticks. Some good stuff comes out of modes though. If I have to play D mixo, I will play e natural minor with tonic of D. Seems to work and is easier than thinking in major scales, alothough no teacher will recommend it. I prefer to just play instinctively by the experience of knowing what works and what does not. if stuck for an idea, I either stop, or i repeat (or pick slide etc hehe)
I have also practiced both that whole note upstroke thing to a beat and Petes bending to pitch exercise, i.e little phrase followed by a bend to pitch, or the other way around. They helped for sure. Tom's taking the finding the note all over the fret board and expanding it to intervals is something i am about to try now. Well, as soon as the coffee kicks in.
Great information! Thank you Tom and Pete! I hope you can do more videos together!
Great as always. Tom, missed you at Laney's 50th.
This is such a great episode! So much good advice here. Thank you!!!! Now my practice sessions will be more productive. 👍
Pete, any chance you could do a show about manipulating guitar controls (volume, tone, pickup selector) on the three classic types of guitars (LP, Strat and Tele)? Something about how to get the most variety of tones from these guitars and in what kind of situations they work well in your opinion?
Use dem ears yo
Tasty playing guys and teaching. I digs me some jazzy shred. ;) Subbing to Tom ASAP. Thanks Pete!
This is just so awesome, thumbs up all the way.
Thanks guys! Great tips and easy to digest portions.
Great suggestions from two great guitarists.
Guitar Of Doom .... or, very nearly - once these two guys get done showing the rest of us how the thing really gets played it may very well be!! These two just keep getting better as players over the years, amazing.
Hi Pete ! I really enjoyed this lesson! Thank you
Mucho insight. Super lesson.
This is great! Simple but the best advice
Yea I really enjoyed this too, Tom is a great teacher
AWESOME video!!!!! Thank you Pete and Tom!! 👍🏻🤘🏻
Fantastic and clearly explained. Cheers guys!
two of my fave git masters ;) great show djents !
TKS for this video. Love you Suhr guitar. can you tell me what model and price it is.??
That was fantastic stuff Pete!!
Damn, Quayle is that where those chops come from? Tuning your guitar in straight 4ths? It always seemed like a good idea, but I was always told that results can be futile.
Ps that is a pretty interesting way to get acclimated with the fretboard. That M3rd on the b kinda throws off the fretboard making it less intuitive.