Part 1 - God’s Promises and Zionism | Mark Braverman and Gary Burge

In this part of their conversation, Mark Braverman and Gary Burge discuss God’s promises to Old Testament Israel and how they should be understood today, especially in light of the rise of Zionism in the last century.
Mark Braverman is a Jewish American with family roots in Jerusalem. He’s a retired clinical psychologist and currently serves as Executive Director of Kairos USA, a movement to unify and mobilize American Christians to take a prophetic stance for a just peace in Israel and Palestine. He’s written two books on Israel and Palestine, “Fatal Embrace: Christians, Jews, and the Search for Peace in the Holy Land” and “A Wall in Jerusalem: Hope, Healing, and the Struggle for Justice in Israel and Palestine.”
Gary Burge is an Adjunct Professor of New Testament here at Calvin Theological Seminary. He is an expert on the integration of theology and the politics of the Middle East, and has written a number of books, including “Whose Land? Whose Promise? What Christians Are Not Being Told About Israel and the Palestinians” and “Jesus and the Land: The New Testament Challenge to Holy Land Theology.”
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God's promises are important for many reasons, the first being his faithfulness. God does not lie! See Psalm 89:34 and Numbers 23:19. Regarding its continued importance in the New Testament, Jesus affirms Jerusalem saying it IS the city of the great king. Prior to his own birth, the Angel of the Lord declares that God will give him the throne of his father David and he will rule over the house of Jacob forever. Regarding the mission to the Gentiles, already in Acts 3:25 Peter declares this, basing it on God's promises to Abraham. In that same sermon he also notes that when he returns, Jesus will restore everything promised by the holy prophets. See Jeremiah 33:25-26 and Ezekiel 37:12-14, 21-28 for just a few of these. Notice also what Paul does say. In Romans 15:9-12 he presents the longest collection of Old Testament scripture to be found in the New Testament, all to show that God's plan was always to bless Gentiles along with Jews (he is not changing anything or dropping anything out!), and also in this chapter, 15:8, he states “Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf of God's truth, to confirm the promises made to the patriarchs.” Again, for a quick summary of these promises, see Psalm 105:8-11. That is, according to the New Testament, God has NOT "dropped out" the ethnic/Jewish component of his promises to Abraham, nor its geographic component! God's promises, once given, cannot be altered by him at a later date. Dr. Gary Burge is seriously mistaken!

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New Covenant Whole Gospel:
Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary?
What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below.
Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8, 3:16? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Watch the TH-cam videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.

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from the get go, at mt. sinai, anyone making covenant with God could become as much a jew as a jew. a mixed multitude came out of egypt.
at anytime, a proselyte who was circumcised could be as much an israelite as any jew who did the same. it was never ethnicity, except for bringing christ, the son of david, into the world. a physical son of abraham did not guarantee acceptance with God. jesus called the pharisees
sons of the devil. it has always been faith, only a remnant. and location became a nothing burger after God judged israel for rejecting his son
when the temple and jerusalem were destroyed in a.d. 70. "..the kingdom will be taken from you..." john 4:19-24 no one will worship in jerusalem...true worshippers worship in spirit and in truth. a new king, a new priest, a new kingdom, a new covenant. those who are christ's
are abraham's sons. all the prophecies about jews returning to israel, the land, were written before or during the babylonian exile, they did
return and rebuild the temple. prophecy fulfilled. after that, no future prophecies of that nature were written.