This means more to me than I can say. My beloved great-uncle Richard was a senior officer in the Grenadiers. He played the trumpet. 6'4". Mounted or marching, he was here.
The contrast between 1934, 53 and 64 is really interesting! No leg-raise at all here (coming to attention etc.), more in 53, more in 64 and now-days the knee comes to nearly waist-height. Plus the magazine pouches and equipment still being worn - that's a strange sight compared to today!
gavsky23 wonder why they don’t use surplus rifles like in the Bundeswehr, there are probably some SMLEs’ in parade condition out there that they could use.
Jacob Alexander Commonwealth militaries only drill with their actual weapons. That’s why Canadian Ceremonial Guards use M16 derived rifles that replaced the FN rifles that were in use until the late 80s.
@@AmphiStuG The reply from The Ministry of Defence is that since it is a modern army they carry modern weapons. This isn't just pageantry, they are guarding the Monarch.
@@rhannay39 A little late to the reply. But it still seems odd even when you put it like that. I'm not sure why using modern firearms is an argument for better defense, when they have a plug bayonet covering the muzzle of the rifle; Even then I doubt they're loaded, there's no real way for them to carry any ammunition reserves, no side arm like you would expect any other security force to carry. Then again there's no real need to have all that when they're just there for ceremonial purposes, would still be cool if they did have the same kit as they did in the 30s.
What a fascinating insight into the past...presumably most of the drill was still into twos and fours...as opposed to the latterday threes...forming twos and forming fours are great old manouevres...as a youngster in a slightly militaristic youth organisation in the early 60's I certainly performed them!
probably Colonel Leo Geyr von Schweppenburg who was Germany‘s military attache in London from 1933-1937. He was leading panzer troops in the 2nd world war with distinction.
The trees are so small. The buildings are so dirty (one I don't recognise at all - possibly destroyed in WW2). But ..... how splendid to see the men all so tall and of near uniform height. Equal opportunities and all that, but this format looks so much better. I wonder if it was easier to keep the line really straight with the men being of nearly the same height, and therefore similar length of stride. Even some moustaches!
well..... at first yes but ultimately no not really, the flourish did pan out well and the colour was presented to the Queen without any part of it being covered up. A failure as you said, would mean that the colour was draped up and partially covered up all the way after the march past and after recovering of the colour, which has happened once or twice in modern trooping the colour parades.
Does anyone know when/why the band lost the white facings on their uniform? Nowadays it's only the drummers that have them... Also, why were the backpacks and magazine pouches dropped? I've noticed that they disappeared after the Second World War, so I'm guessing it had something to do with maintenance costs? They add to the uniform, so it's a shame that they were discontinued.
the bands wore gold facings on the tunics right up until the second world war aside from a break from the start , and shortly after the great war. the drum major in the full dress uniform of today wears the last remnant of this scarlet blue and gold tunic. after the second world war when full dress was reinstated the musicians were only given plain guardsmens tunics , it was not until about 1965 i think that they were allowed to add the musicians shoulder wings again. in 1934 the guards wore the white slade-wallace equipment in guard order, with the folded greatcoat that you can see high on the back and the rolled cape attached to the lower back. after this parade king Edward VIII ordered the greatcoat to be removed and the cape ,now folded, was worn on the upper back level with the collar. all this was lost when full dress came back after the second world war. the corps of drums always managed to keep their full dress with the white and blue tape throughout ,aside during the war years. it was costs that saw the musicians full dress demise ,apparently..........marty
I KNOW the newsreel is from 1934!!! I can read. After 80 years those trees are now much taller, and the men are too often a lot shorter (and fatter). 80 years is a long time, hence, the changes being so notable.
@@MasterCheeks-2552 no, it was the soviet and communist russians that first stormed into Berlin and defeated the Reich. Americans, Brits and the other Allies came after the Russians had already done the work.
@@piggdsbest333 Britain was fighting Germany from Day 1 of WW2. Russia was allied to the nazis and got curbstomped for a full year. Without western aid they would have lost. The german army is just overrated af!
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You will notice that all the soldiers are the same height; before 1965, all applicants for the Guards Division had to be at least 6 feet tall.
And all were fit, thin athletic and the same height.. no fatties in sight unlike nowadays
@@patriot4786 That’s incorrect.
@@inthebleakmidwinter9338 ironically yes
and all British
@@patriot4786 Chill, they're still putting their life's on the line.
Gid bless our gracious Queen. From the Fiji Islands, everything is wonderful with the parade, even though its black and white.
This means more to me than I can say. My beloved great-uncle Richard was a senior officer in the Grenadiers. He played the trumpet. 6'4". Mounted or marching, he was here.
their march past is perfect!
They cant do it like that anymore.. the discipline has reduced
@@patriot4786 And they don't have as strict a height regulation as they did then.
@@AmphiStuG why did they discontinue that policy?
@@patriot4786 Dunno. Read it in another comment, the policy was changed somewhere around 1954 and again in 1965.
This film is 88 years old. And I’ve noticed all the guardsman are all the same size and slim. 😮
The contrast between 1934, 53 and 64 is really interesting! No leg-raise at all here (coming to attention etc.), more in 53, more in 64 and now-days the knee comes to nearly waist-height. Plus the magazine pouches and equipment still being worn - that's a strange sight compared to today!
gavsky23 wonder why they don’t use surplus rifles like in the Bundeswehr, there are probably some SMLEs’ in parade condition out there that they could use.
And I suppose using the proper ammunition pouches for the rifles L85 rifles would be a bit awkward and would clash with the uniform
Jacob Alexander Commonwealth militaries only drill with their actual weapons. That’s why Canadian Ceremonial Guards use M16 derived rifles that replaced the FN rifles that were in use until the late 80s.
@@AmphiStuG The reply from The Ministry of Defence is that since it is a modern army they carry modern weapons. This isn't just pageantry, they are guarding the Monarch.
@@rhannay39 A little late to the reply. But it still seems odd even when you put it like that. I'm not sure why using modern firearms is an argument for better defense, when they have a plug bayonet covering the muzzle of the rifle; Even then I doubt they're loaded, there's no real way for them to carry any ammunition reserves, no side arm like you would expect any other security force to carry.
Then again there's no real need to have all that when they're just there for ceremonial purposes, would still be cool if they did have the same kit as they did in the 30s.
This is Britain, tradition.
There's so many of them.
They need to re-introduce Mustaches into the Queen's Guards
Glory to George the king, England, and St George
The biggest difference between then and now, is that all the soldiers are slim and the same height.
and why has that standards gone today?
...and the Commentator's accent!
@@1946nimrod very posh
@@patriot4786 due to the government cutting budgets and lower the standards.
@@joshuachin1850 very sad to see the standards declining
To an American, the only difference between this film clip and the latest review is that this is in black and white.
Better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt
@ thats a really, really weird thing to say in your reply. Did you post this to the wrong place or something?
The Guards were taller in the past
Dear God!
That Voice!
Love
Tom
So much more disciplined I fear the guards standards will slip two years now without a troop
Hardly, most guards battalions spend years away from public duties and always pull the standard early on return
What drills!!
Wonderful.
How did hitler look at this and say ‘I’d want my men to fight this army’ ?
Hitler spent the 1930s rearming, in contravention of the Versailles treaty, while we did nothing.
0:16 He forgot to say it was nice.
Looks like the quarter master needed only one size uniform back in the day.
This is pretty good
I love it.
Not a single soldier was overweight, unlike today.
What a fascinating insight into the past...presumably most of the drill was still into twos and fours...as opposed to the latterday threes...forming twos and forming fours are great old manouevres...as a youngster in a slightly militaristic youth organisation in the early 60's I certainly performed them!
Can’t imagine which youth organisation that would be
perhaps the german military attache in London.
Prussian military attache
@@pankourlaut 1934? German.
probably Colonel Leo Geyr von Schweppenburg who was Germany‘s military attache in London from 1933-1937. He was leading panzer troops in the 2nd world war with distinction.
The trees are so small. The buildings are so dirty (one I don't recognise at all - possibly destroyed in WW2). But ..... how splendid to see the men all so tall and of near uniform height. Equal opportunities and all that, but this format looks so much better. I wonder if it was easier to keep the line really straight with the men being of nearly the same height, and therefore similar length of stride. Even some moustaches!
Um, the video is from 1934...
Don't know why , but the drum sound is louder than now
At 3:51, the ensign failed at the flourish.
well..... at first yes but ultimately no not really, the flourish did pan out well and the colour was presented to the Queen without any part of it being covered up.
A failure as you said, would mean that the colour was draped up and partially covered up all the way after the march past and after recovering of the colour, which has happened once or twice in modern trooping the colour parades.
@@kennethho888 king..
Does anyone know when/why the band lost the white facings on their uniform? Nowadays it's only the drummers that have them... Also, why were the backpacks and magazine pouches dropped? I've noticed that they disappeared after the Second World War, so I'm guessing it had something to do with maintenance costs? They add to the uniform, so it's a shame that they were discontinued.
the bands wore gold facings on the tunics right up until the second world war aside from a break from the start , and shortly after the great war. the drum major in the full dress uniform of today wears the last remnant of this scarlet blue and gold tunic. after the second world war when full dress was reinstated the musicians were only given plain guardsmens tunics , it was not until about 1965 i think that they were allowed to add the musicians shoulder wings again. in 1934 the guards wore the white slade-wallace equipment in guard order, with the folded greatcoat that you can see high on the back and the rolled cape attached to the lower back. after this parade king Edward VIII ordered the greatcoat to be removed and the cape ,now folded, was worn on the upper back level with the collar. all this was lost when full dress came back after the second world war. the corps of drums always managed to keep their full dress with the white and blue tape throughout ,aside during the war years. it was costs that saw the musicians full dress demise ,apparently..........marty
louislungbubble Cheers! Much appreciated :)
The pipes and drums are not part of the band but part of the regiment although they parade with the band. The band come from the Royal Corps of music.
I KNOW the newsreel is from 1934!!! I can read. After 80 years those trees are now much taller, and the men are too often a lot shorter (and fatter). 80 years is a long time, hence, the changes being so notable.
Thousands of SMLE, Number One, Mark Three.
Este video es muy emocionante al ver al Rey Jorge V presidiendo la parada militar
Britain in fine form. Oh, what has been surrendered!
I wonder how many of these boys went home alive from World War II.
All the Royals and Ruperts with their bigger skins, inferiority complex?
such goofy hats, especially when compared with the germans of the times...
Germans got clapped by men in “goofy” hats
@@MasterCheeks-2552 no, it was the soviet and communist russians that first stormed into Berlin and defeated the Reich. Americans, Brits and the other Allies came after the Russians had already done the work.
@@piggdsbest333 Britain was fighting Germany from Day 1 of WW2. Russia was allied to the nazis and got curbstomped for a full year. Without western aid they would have lost.
The german army is just overrated af!