I'm disappointed af. Was a fan of the guy cause he had the most amazing tracking i've ever seen. Now the dude is radioactive. I don't see any major teams signing him even after the suspension is over. Dude is either gonna join a new team that once the carry or is gonna become a streamer.
Wisdom of a dude who understood that money isn't the only thing on Earth. From what I've read at least. “I did what I did to get out of professional Overwatch. It was the only way [...] I wanted to get out for a long time. Competing and scrimming made me very depressed and bored".
peeterskeeter That talent is an insane gift and actually more valuable than many other talents kiddo. I mean fuck, the guy is pretty much one of THE best.
Wouldn't surprise me, everyone says "Find what you love, then make a job out of it." But from what I've seen from friends and family and in myself, every time you try to do that it's a lot easier to learn to hate your passion than is to learn to love your work. Then there's a certain emptiness you find when your "escape" is taken away from you. I wouldn't be surprised if he just got bored of being a gamer, of being a professional at it, if something that started as a hobby that he was good at that he could do after a day at McDonalds to becoming a stress-fest of practice practice practice, travel here, stream at this time, practice again, sleep, take your xanax so you can play better, inhale your caffine so you can get your hours up. Can't imagine it's actually much fun to take a "game" and make it into a sport. This little stunt he pulled could've been an "out" for him. Instead of saying "I quit" and being slapped with contracts and pressure, he makes himself unwanted and gets his freedom back.
I grew up loving gardening so went into Horticulture/Landscape Gardening. Ruined it for me, I may now be a better Gardner but I rather let the weeds grow.
Guys, being a pro is not simply playing the game anymore, you have to sign a contract, it is like a job, you cannot just do whatever you want, there will be consequences
Sounds like after reaching the top the game has become boring for him and now he hates it and wants to ruin everyone else's experience because the magic is gone for him. He'd stop but the money he makes is too good and he feels like he has no other options. Or could just be an existential crisis. When he looks in the mirror and realizes he has to play the same game every day for 10+ hrs a day 7 days a week. He knows the gravy train will run out one day and some new younger player and some new hotter game will make him irrelevant, then he will be sitting there on twitch with his dwindling sub count recalling his glory years in his 20's playing video games and spankin it to porn.
GeX223 mind telling me what it means rather than just insulting me for no reason? I looked up the definition, so if you've got a better argument than the dictionary I'd be happy to hear it
It's not about what it means, it's how it's used. Calling someone noob (beginner, inexperienced, not good) to someone who's been playing for quite a while is the insult. Pretty much saying they suck. It's not much of an insult if you've been playing for 1 day and are actually new at the game, but it is intended to be used as one 99% of the time.
I'm very interested in psychology and have been looking into the phenomenon of online toxicity quite a lot recently and here's the theory I've come up with: First of all, toxicity isn't based on any objective factors. However, objective factors can lead to or increase the potency of the actually influencing subjective factors. What I mean by that is that being toxic is equal to being pessimistic. Everything seems shitty to such a person even though it actually isn't. Here's how pessimism affects the gaming experience: Pessimist gamers have a tendency to be toxic because they already start the game with a non-positive mindset - they're either in a neutral or already negative state and since they are pessimisitic any negative experience has a bigger impact than a positive one and so the ratio of good and bad experiences will always drift towards negativity even though objectively it should be positively favored. An example I can give for this are people who flame their team even though they are winning. The objective outcome doesn't matter since the toxicity comes from the individual's bad mindset. I want to bring this even further and say that that's the reason why Dafram is such an asshole. Being a dick online is another phenomenon I have thought about. The short answer is pseudo-anonymity - Because of lack of information people you "meet" online aren't really "people". Feeling sympathy or any positive affection for someone you can't even see is difficult because of lack of unconscious emotional queues which are necessary to develope trust which is the foundation for positive emotions. Agressive emotions however don't need that, they are more primitive because they act as a defense mechanism. That's the reason why a big portion of people you meet online, especially in a competitive team vs team game type, act so rude. Unconsciously they don't see each other as people and have a tendency to be agressive to such entities. That's pretty much what Hitler did with the people regarding Jews, that's what any dictator does - manipulating his people to hate the scapegoat entity who are no longer humans to their eyes. The last point I wanna talk about is Dafran's lack of appreciation for the opportunity he has been given. This can be led back to another characteristic of pessimism - low self-worth and living standard. Because everything is naturally negative to pessimists they also see themselves to be of low worth. That's why they are "content", at least as content as a pessimist can be, with a poor living standard and a shitty job and don't show any appreciation for opportunities to improve their life style, either because they think it won't last anyway or because, unconsciously, they are afraid of the resposibility and don't want to leave their familiar but shitty life which doesn't bother them too much since to pessimists everything is shitty. Damn, this became longer than I thought it would lol
I will tell you why ppl are toxic over the internet cause I was once like that too, cause I just wanted to see the world burn as it treated me badly, 2edgy5me
It may also be he's bored with being the best. The only time he loses is when his teammates suck, so how do you take out that frustration? It must be terrible to be the best at your craft. Imagine how boring not having real competition is. It's the fault of his talent, not his personality. Literally, this 'condition' so to speak is present in famous athletes, and they have one of the highest worlwide rates of suicide. It's boredom that causes this. What's the point to doing something you know you'll win at?
for the people saying "it's just a game": so is soccer. do the players just stand in the corners if the odds look bad or leave the field and stop playing? no, they don't.
Yes but you are still making money off of competing in these tournaments and should take them seriously as that is what you agreed to since he joined a team and joined these tournaments
I know right? Who could have guessed when this happened he'd make it to the main stage playing torb on ilios in round 3 of map 5 against carpe and the fusion?
I don't wanna claim to know what his issue is but if I were to hazard a guess, I think that he enjoys the game and playing it and sharing the experience but joining a team competitively meant the game went from being something fun he liked to do into a chore and responsibility he had to fulfill. And it got to the point it was just frustrating and he had enough and it simply just wasn't fun anymore. So rather than simply quit (if he even can) he was seeking a way to get kicked out. that way he can play because he wants to and not because he has to.
Even if this were the case he was fucking it up for his team. It takes a severe lack of character to agree to the commitments of being part of a team and then pulling something like this just because he "wasn't having fun anymore." So even if your theory is in fact the case it doesn't make him any better. It would just make him selfish and childish.
fucking good imo. idc if they're a good player if they are making the game less fun for others, just ban them. edit: it's like the employee who does almost all the shifts at the workplace say "fuck it I'm gonna have fun" And ruins the workplace for that one day. that's fire worthy
"i think he should be IP banned" IP bans do absolutely fuck all. Blizzard has his email, personal details, payment information, and a bunch of other extra information they wouldn't have for normal players to make sure the ban is enforced. (And tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if they included unique cryptographic keys for each copy of the game people buy, so he shouldn't be able to log-in with another account if he got one.) Enforcing this ban in particular should be easy-peasy. Especially since it seems that his team is just as disappointed with him and will probably inform Blizzard if he does try to circumvent it somehow.
I completely agree with Blizzard here, Competitive is meant to be a serious game with everyone playing their best, having trolls and leavers there is unacceptable. I think everyone who is reported multiple times for trolling or leaving should be banned from Competitive for the current season. I am glad that they made Dafran an example, instead of an exception.
And trolls can't report people? I agree with banning trolls but I have heard several trolls in voice chat this season already claiming that they're throwing because the team is shit and that they've reported us all. If this continued to happen I'd end up banned for having trolls on my team
If it is true that there is something in Defran's life, then I am sorry to hear that. However Blizzard was right to temporarily ban him for not single-handedly trolling but for encouraging trolling from others. There needs to punishments for players who don't take competitive mode somewhat seriously (even the number one player). You shouldn't be banned for leaving one game, but if you are purposely trying to make things hard for your teammates and opponents, then competitive is not the game mode for you.
Just can't stream Overwatch for a week. If I am reading this correctly he got banned from his accounts, as in multiple ones and probably all. I expect Blizzard to ban every new account he tries to make and stream with.
@@niggachu420 dafran is literally doing a series where he reaches top 500 on a fresh account with every single hero. If that isn't the definition of the best player then i dont know what is. He's literally showing us complete mastery of overwatch by reaching the top 500 multiple times with multiple different accounts with multiple heroes. Total mastery of overwatch.
The sad thing about me a overwatch player is the fact I am a good sportsman ship player and good in genearal and even get some messages and people going on about whatever i did was pretty cool no sarcasm at all. But if I try competitive I can feel my heart beat and is doused in fear of getting told im horrible and in anyway I try to fix the problem getting all these awful sayings while competitive is just well...the same as quickplay...But has some little bit more of meaning (in my opinion) .....it gets so bad at times that I would even mute myself the voice chat and not dare look at my messages.... yes im a shame to admit but I even cried for being bad....I would be a character that was helpful if i knew how to play them and knew what to do......I love giving good feed but im just to afraid....also i have no friends to play competitive with so it makes it quite worse...
Heh, same problem here. I love the game, I like how it plays, I really enjoy playing it because I've found heroes that suit my playstyle really well, etc etc. But I just can't get myself to "gitgud" playing alone and just always play with my friends since I'm afraid of doing bad and getting those "mean" messages. And even then I can't play frequently since it's rare for 6 of my friends who knew each other are online :(
You have to think of what possibilities the enemies can do and during the situation.....I love playing the characters I do because well ther personalities are beautifule and I can even relate to....kinda like a guide if that makes sense...I also love team work.....But also just watch some people play and look up tips online....but also try new things
Nah, it's not even that. I play good, my winrate's at a pretty good condition (55%) on 29xx SR. It's just, when I make 1 mistake, and someone blamed me for it, I get 100x worse. And just reading that on chat makes me feel real bad and turn off the game after that match. Yes I'm a whiny crybaby lol
namYa oh I know right!? Like one of the times I was the only tank no healers or anything so I was like great I'm road hog and I'm on fire and taken down the enemie teams two tanks but I still get yelled at.......its rediculouss some times but one thing in human nature is people not knowing when your wrong and need to take a step in to fix it and not continue to defend a thing you don't even agree with...
Spirit Cudaback aww. I know that feeling. I play quite well in Quick Play, but when I try Comp, I get worried and panic cause I'm afraid I won't be good and get called out. :/ Sadly, all the times I have played Comp resulted with toxic and rudeness. lol. I am gonna stick to Arcade and QP until I have the courage
It's sad really, he gets to earn money and do the thing he loves by playing Overwatch, but he throws it all out the window. Me. I would love to be as good at the game as him (Me being in Silver) and dreams of one day playing in tournaments :(
Siriflex hey keep trying I was in silver in season 2 and now I'm in mid diamond, it's just a matter of finding what heroes you can further develop on while still enjoying the game
He _loves_ Overwatch? A dude watching youtube windowed over the game is an extremely bored individual. He literally said he didn't give a fuck about his career. He feels trapped that this video game is his only vocation now. He's, quite literally, lashing out at his job. That video game life only leads to isolation and being chained to computer all day just to make a living. That shit is a prison...
Dafran throws and convinces people to ruin Competitive and he gets a slap on the wrist but I play Torb on Attack and I get a permaban. *_E q u a l i t y_*
Thank you. I pick Hanzo, get raged at, and then reported by those same ragers and I'll get silenced or banned within a minute. Has happened three times. Yet this guy can do all this and Blizz just be like "take a timeout from competitive for a while, bud."
Every attack game I have played Torb, I won it in record time, Torb is a great hero if you know how to play him, just duck down behind the turret and keep hammering it and you are practically invincible, just be careful of pharah
@PandaHero, Purposely choosing a hero that will be useless in a match is equivalent to AFK, the whole point of Overwatch is to pick counter heroes, that is why they allow hero switching, but, most people jump want to build that ultimate even though it wont do any good
How about the fact that nobody wants to play Healer ? Isn't that Throwing the Game from the start ? I either have to play healer or be prepared to lose as idiots in my team pick a full team of attackers with 0 heals
You're an idiot, you've demonstrated the exact reason no one picks healer. Because at the start of the game everyone thinks they're the best player there, so they all pick DPS, then they complain because there are no healers "I either have to play healer" You see my point? You're complaining about playing healer, so are the other 5 players on your team. YOU are the problem.
yudhistirs dude I think he's trying to say all your teammates think the same way as u too. so mebbe it's just the matchmaking matching u up with 6 non healer mains.
Overwatch is Not an RPG or MOBA for ppl to main classes, everybody is expected to switch to counter the enemy team, that is why you can switch upon death, else it would be like Dota or Battleborn
+Spike Technically yes, but he threw away his job, so he only had it for a very short period of time. By comparison, even though most other people have less flashy jobs, they would keep it for a lot longer, so in the long run, they are technically more successful.
Cuz we don't like to see such potential wasted. It's sad, and we all know what depression is like, and want him to get help, because we're nice people.
Seanohaha I dont think anyone who hasnt experienced depression knows what it's like to be depressed. I'm sure I know what he's going through because when I feel depressed I just feel like I want to throw away everything I've done.
- Darfan, my son, you must choose your job: Flip burgers all day and get paid shit or be a famous gamer who gets paid to play a videogame. - I honestly do not give a shit what happends to me and my fucking career, you can all go fuck yourselves. Flipping burgers it is, then.
And here i am thinking: "Wait, old Hanzo Arrow, instant Mercy Rez? Is this on Experimental??". Oh, that video is four years old... That explains a lot...
hubi shane isn't it annoying now that whenever someone disagrees instead of arguing a point now all we have to do is cuss at them. YA that sure gives a respectable look
Cpt. 8s Huh, guess you have lots of privilege then if you think nothing was wrong with someone using the N word. The N word and the F word (Not f*ck) are so incredibly offensive to some people. Trust me, the entire community would have to be racist, homophobic, transphobic, and sexist for your paradise to be reality. Whats your argument against that?
+Melting Squid "Trust me, the entire community would have to be racist, homophobic, transphobic, and sexist for your paradise to be reality. Whats your argument against that?" You know it's people like you why the words "racist", "homophobic", "mentally-illphobic" and "sexist" don't mean anything and are buzzwords, right? My argument against your statement is that it is better to be free than to be save(Edit: except of course when your phisical health is directly infringed upon like "kill all homosexuals" etc., if it isn't used comedic). "Huh, guess you have lots of privilege then if you think nothing was wrong with someone using the N word. The N word and the F word (Not f*ck) are so incredibly offensive to some people." There are liberals and libtards, you belong to the latter. Also, you don't know what privilige is, fuck off(quick recap, not being offended by everything, not suffering from a victim complex and/or not having a too high selfpity ≠ privilege). Just a question: Would you not walk ever again because it might be offensive to a lame person?
Cpt. 8s Not even a similar comparison, as with yours I am not openly offending this person. Not being able to walk is severely restricting, so naturally it needs to be accepted that people who can walk will, with no intention of offending anyone. Banning offensive words restricts your vocabulary by just a few words, therefore it is quite common for offensive words to be banned. The N word flaunts white privilege. Not only is your comparison completely illogical, but completely useless. Do you think lame people are offended by others walking and not doing anything they know is offensive to anyone even in the slightest? Get real. You offended a lot of people with what you just posted. If you don't realize why or how you just proved my privilege point.
So the rule is no sympathy for anyone who is not a true champion, got it. You do realize you're talking about a human being, right? I'm not saying he deserves special treatment, I'm saying he deserves normal treatment, people have personal lives beyond their careers...
Yeah he is just a person, but he's a person being paid to play a game under contract and should by no means exhibit this sort of behavior on his backers and teams behalf
Today I experienced top tier toxicity for the first time. I had always heard about toxicity from youtubers and reddit and stuff but never gave it much thought. I figured people were just overreacting and needed to suck it up. however, today I was playing comp (2650 sr) and was doing capture point on illios. I was playing genji and this other guy was doomfist(we'll call him edgelord steve), we are playing this match and I'm doing semi bad (first match of the day,no warm up) but tried to stay positive. We lose the point 99 to 100 and morale was down. next round is about to begin and edge lord steve switches to pharra and asked me to switch to a healer (He said he would but that he was carrying the team with gold eliminations). I replied that I would switch but that I had gold elims and gold damage (Because he was being annoying and yelling at everyone the last round). I switch to mercy and try to heal everyone that I can, edgelord steve tells me to stick on his ass and heal him. I tell him that our other healer is a lucio and while he was good he can't heal anyone. He gets real pissed at that and says I'm a shit healer. We do win this round and as we do so he says "You can't rezz for shit mercy) I don't know where that came from because I rezzed 3 people that round (Not great but I am an offence oriented person who prefers lucio for healing) Next round I'm still mercy because I know he will get triggered if I switched. We had 99% and they had possession and 85%, only four of them were alive and I was going in with two people about to rezz two more. I thought we could win the point but for some reason the two stop following me (without me realizing) and I rezz the 2 and we all die. we regroup for one last effort but the enemy's all had their ults and wrecked us. edgelord steve says it was my fault for wasting rezz even though I was the first targeted in the end when the enemies used their ults so I wouldn't be able to rezz anyway. For the last round I switch to Zen and stop talking because I'm sick of his shit, and we lose the round/game. The end screen comes up and edgelord steve says that he carried the team because he had 38 kills (because he was dps for 4 99%-99% rounds). When he says this two people who hadn't talked all game get on the mic and say how he's a toxic asshole, that made me feel a little better but I still hated that game and even considered leaving early to get out. Sorry for bitching and moaning to you guys but I had to get it off my chest
You should start wondering why every single online game has the mute feature. Way better to mute someone instead of finding yourself writing a theorem on TH-cam about what happened
Wow, one of the few Stylosa videos where he didn't obviously ramble on for far too long for that YT $$$. Really interesting video. A well-deserved like from me!
to support dafran about the match, it was 99/0 on overtime, so there was very little chance of them winning, I think I would have GGWP'd at that point. playing torb is completely unforgivable tho.
As someone who has played games all their life, and dreamed of the day when gaming could be a sustainable job, this is really sad. I've never been as good at any game as this guy is at Overwatch, and he's pissing away an opportunity many people would love to have. One day, he'll look back at his actions, and wonder how he could ever be so stupid.
you know at 23 you still can be a complete child. This guy Dafran obviously has a problem but this is the first example of a pro player that acts like tons of professional athletes already do. People either can't handle the pressure and implode or just act like a moron. With what I am seeing, and not knowing Dafran's side of the story, this seems to be a case of the latter.
I don't know what I should write to this. I think he deserved this but at the same time he was one of the greatest player in Overwatch... He was my Hero. R.I.P Dafran
No matter his mental health and stuff...he honestly shouldn't have acted in such an unproffesional and toxic way...sorry but he deserves it. Hate me but that's what I think.
Jose Cruz have abit of humanity. no one is perfect and expecting perfection when he might as well for all we know be on a major breaking point from the massive stress his likely under for being a pro player instead of the guy flipping your burger you seem to forget that.
densup That's kind of fucked up TBH. Pretty much like saying a depressed person doesn't deserve help because they don't try and not be sad. Everyone deserves help, whether they take it or not is their choice, but everyone deserves the option. No one's life should just be ruined because of one choice, especially if that one choice involves something as harmless as a video game.
David Vaihansky You can't say for certain he doesn't have depression. There are infinite types of depression and they do different things to different people. We don't know what Dafran motives were. There is a possibility that he's just a dick and wanted to ruin his and many other people's overwatch experience, but there's an equally likely chance he could have depression. Nobody knows except Dafran.
He's not an adult to be honest , he's 23, I was as arrogant as him when I was his age, I was as good at high level play as well, but it changed in my late 20's, especially after I had kids. My message to you is, take this time to take a break, come back to this game if you still enjoy playing it. That was what my clan leader said to me when I lost control of my actions
Dennis Chan so have I, but it doesn't mean he can't change, if I could change my out look on life, so can he. When I play games now, I still get competitive, but I have a lot more control.
I feel like he deserves that... he was throwing in highest possible rank. I cannot understand behauvior like that from pro player like Dafran... I am just so disapointed
Bogdan Dobre none of the games are "buried" they are probably the biggest competitive games in sports and still make soooooo much money and overwatch is becoming that
Ryan Whisenant yep, and considering ow just had its first anniversary but already on its way to 2nd world cup, itll only get even more popular from now on
Bogdan Dobre I quit playing dota, league and csgo because they all got cancerous as they got so popular. Right now I'm really enjoying OW comp and I'd be really sad if it got ruined as well.
If it wasn't for LoL, then it'd be amazing how this game still remains popular with shit like this spreading like a plague. It's just a matter of time before Blizzard brings down the hammer like Riot did in LoL.
Hey, guess who's on the OWL stage now bois? What's even crazier is that tracer clip at the start is literally in the Atlanta Reign Roster Unveil video.
You learn to treat others the way you want to be treated in kindergarten. If someone can't follow a rule they learned in kindergarten they deserve to be hit with some common sense.
to make this clear... being a Pro player or a top 500 or something doesn't mean he has the right to throw games and be toxic... he got banned and he deserves it i know you guys don't like it and neither do i but it's what he deserves
Who's not accepting the ban? A few people have sympathy for what is clearly some kind of problem wih him "because unlike other trolls he was willing to do this with very distinct reprecussions to his livlihood
IIIiiiDAWiiiIII he also lost his ability to play ranked for a whole season and the ability to join a few tournaments. which cost him his livelihood for the next few months seeing as he's a pro gamer
last night i saw dafran dressed as a chicken running around a professional over watch home game in Atlanta screaming lets go dude to rapturous applause.
No, because Blizz tracks your ip adress and you can buy an acc but the ban affects it too. The only thing he could do is get a new PC but i doubt he'll do it just for a season of OW
yes he can LOL its so easy to change your IP regardless he doesn't even need to play in tourneys he can easily make good money streaming this shitty game
Completely okay to ban him. But I'm also glad the team is willing to give him the help he needs, what ever it is. We don't know why he's suddenly behaving like this, and it's none of our business, and fact that the team want to help him could suggest something is very wrong, so good on them that they want to help him.
I don't know much about the guy but I watch a bit of DSPStanky to pick up some tricks for Lucio. I've seen a couple games where Stanky gets put on a team with Dafran and the guy just acts like such a dick all the time to the extent he reminds me of the dbags from Jersey Shore.
Hes obviously experiencing some kinda mental breakdown or whatever. I dont believe he wants to go back to flipping burgers. Gamer life can still be shit even if he earned a lot of money. Playing for more than 10 hours isnt healthy for ur body or brain. Wake up-play-wake up-play for months
Gamer life is 8 hours a day of gaming where you can take breaks whenever you want throughout the day (except during team prac time), you're at home, and you usually have fun with your team. No set hours either. It's not shit unless you let it be shit. If he's staying up all night playing and getting up at 1 pm it could be a shitty lifestyle but that is so easily manageable, just a sign of maturity that this guy CLEARLY lacks.
I know it sounds like bullshit considering people have normal jobs, but imagine this for a YEAR since game release, nearly no social life except online, and they do play more than 8 hours(its just scrims THEN streaming) AND everyday. I'm not saying that it's harder than a normal job, its just unnatural and can make u go crazy. I dont watch his stream idc about his personality. If most of them have personal trainers i wonder why most overwatch pros are fat. Many people who started when he did are leaving their teams, taking breaks... why? Trust me they dont have "fun" playing anymore
Josh Snow he didnt lose the money it was a fan hosted game, it was the fan who sent the money to s4 dafran had nothing to 'lose' apart from pride and the respective game. I cant believe no one out of those 96 people that have liked this comment has pointed it out.
I feel bad for him as I do believe that he has something going on in his life as someone with such an opportunity would never waste it without reason so I hope that’s the case and he gets better
I have a bad and often toxic attitude. I'm self aware of this fact, but my problem is that my aggression is against players who troll/AFK/intentionally lose. I'm so obnoxious and loud though that often the focus of peoples attention is turned on me instead. I've had suspensions from MOBA's before, but never an FPS. I don't want to try-hard every single game, and I'm friendly to every person I meet, and can joke and riff with complete strangers quite easily, but I just want everybody to enjoy it, not just me, and I instantly rage when people want to ruin a game for everybody else in the room. Even winning is meaningless if they other team had their game ruined by their own team mate.
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The most ironic part is that his team name is Selfless
Carlos Sardina how ironic
Carlos Sardina he selflessly gave away games to his opponents 🤔
Carlos Sardina lmao
El o L
Carlos Sardina I had the same thought
You said he's a good hitscan player so maybe he's helping his projectile aim by throwing
GeorgeRen Badum tss
GODLIKE
GeorgeRen THAT WAS DABEST 😂
You are dafriend that i want
ItzChromy fucking legend
Honestly I was paying more attention to the fact that he didn't get a single dragonblade kill
He does
8:30
He was playing total mayhem
It was total mayhem T_T
My name is Dafran
Flippin' burgers in a pan
Never made it to a LAN
'Cuz I got hit with daban
Mad Soldier first reply let's go
Oml haha XDDD
Ramenrice69420 lol are you actually proud of that? Of a reply?
Thovrus Corvus yea it's fucking Mad Soldier bruh
Omg its mad soldier
sty sounds like a disappointed father
olaf8778 because you were born ;)
damn rekt son i dont know how to recover form that gotta take some mental support fomr my psychiatrist
olaf8778 don't* from* from*... you need more than just a psychiatrist
olaf8778 nah , he's just baffled by this unnecessary behavior :/
I'm disappointed af. Was a fan of the guy cause he had the most amazing tracking i've ever seen. Now the dude is radioactive. I don't see any major teams signing him even after the suspension is over. Dude is either gonna join a new team that once the carry or is gonna become a streamer.
that genji gameplay made me sad
I subbed XD i like the profile pick
Can I get 1 subscriber I subbed also
Can I get 1 subscriber genii is shit on total mayhem
its was server browser the mercy had like 500 health lul
Blyn Mage if he saw me play, I'd never hear the end of it
I bet he wrestled with Jeff...
rest in peace Dafran
Dry Hard he was prepared for death
NemoFishie - Growtopia I hoped so
Dry Hard lol
Dry Hard wait what that's not possible. He would be dead if he wrestled jeff
Old Geezer his.skill on torb must have made him survivable enough to just barely survive
Story of a young guy with no wisdom to see what gifts are in front of him.
MrDraxz probably one of the most best Philosophy type comment I've seen
yeah cause playing a video game is a gift
Playing a game so well you could win money in tournaments IS a gift.
Wisdom of a dude who understood that money isn't the only thing on Earth. From what I've read at least.
“I did what I did to get out of professional Overwatch. It was the only way [...] I wanted to get out for a long time. Competing and scrimming made me very depressed and bored".
peeterskeeter
That talent is an insane gift and actually more valuable than many other talents kiddo.
I mean fuck, the guy is pretty much one of THE best.
lol Guess he wants to work at a fast food restaurant again
what if he legitimately liked it better then being a professional gamer.
Wouldn't surprise me, everyone says "Find what you love, then make a job out of it." But from what I've seen from friends and family and in myself, every time you try to do that it's a lot easier to learn to hate your passion than is to learn to love your work. Then there's a certain emptiness you find when your "escape" is taken away from you.
I wouldn't be surprised if he just got bored of being a gamer, of being a professional at it, if something that started as a hobby that he was good at that he could do after a day at McDonalds to becoming a stress-fest of practice practice practice, travel here, stream at this time, practice again, sleep, take your xanax so you can play better, inhale your caffine so you can get your hours up.
Can't imagine it's actually much fun to take a "game" and make it into a sport.
This little stunt he pulled could've been an "out" for him. Instead of saying "I quit" and being slapped with contracts and pressure, he makes himself unwanted and gets his freedom back.
shet up, you're mirroring jealousy.
I honestly don't understand what you're saying.
I grew up loving gardening so went into Horticulture/Landscape Gardening. Ruined it for me, I may now be a better Gardner but I rather let the weeds grow.
In another words Dafran has become the Tyler1 of Overwatch
AlertDraco who's Tyler 1?
Tyler is reformed, bud.
AlertDraco hehe xd
AlertDraco RUN IT DOWN MID BOIS
More like adpo
Guys, being a pro is not simply playing the game anymore, you have to sign a contract, it is like a job, you cannot just do whatever you want, there will be consequences
I heard he stopped streaming and is back to flipping burgers.
Karma is bitch :)
Kawaii Potato pl
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Wei Huang I treat Overwatch as a game of trust. my friends set ground rules and I set mine and we follow them.
chaz74332 - Random Joe #5643 would go unnoticed unless he was even more severe for even longer. This only happened because of how visible Dafran is.
Sounds like after reaching the top the game has become boring for him and now he hates it and wants to ruin everyone else's experience because the magic is gone for him.
He'd stop but the money he makes is too good and he feels like he has no other options.
Or could just be an existential crisis. When he looks in the mirror and realizes he has to play the same game every day for 10+ hrs a day 7 days a week. He knows the gravy train will run out one day and some new younger player and some new hotter game will make him irrelevant, then he will be sitting there on twitch with his dwindling sub count recalling his glory years in his 20's playing video games and spankin it to porn.
that was extremely specific, are you alright my man
Lelldorin84 ...Wanna talk about something?
He should have milked it while he could though.
That was... depressing
Lelldorin84 or he could just end up like Fear and make more money
This is a problem, but can we talk about that Genji gameplay? lmao
Pagem how bad it was haha
Well not as bad as when he went junkrat on a 25% cooldown game
I saw like 2 or three elims the entire time...
also the nonstop zarya energy feeding.
Christopher Soto Oh look a zarya bubble better right click all 25 of my shurikens into it close range xD
People seem to completely forget that "noob" means beginner, but instead people just straight up use it as an insult
Spencer Genovese Um, there's a difference between Noob and Newb
Are you sure? I just googled the definition again and it still says it's someone who is inexperienced to a subject
GeX223 mind telling me what it means rather than just insulting me for no reason? I looked up the definition, so if you've got a better argument than the dictionary I'd be happy to hear it
It's not about what it means, it's how it's used. Calling someone noob (beginner, inexperienced, not good) to someone who's been playing for quite a while is the insult. Pretty much saying they suck. It's not much of an insult if you've been playing for 1 day and are actually new at the game, but it is intended to be used as one 99% of the time.
GeX223 it does tho
I'm very interested in psychology and have been looking into the phenomenon of online toxicity quite a lot recently and here's the theory I've come up with:
First of all, toxicity isn't based on any objective factors. However, objective factors can lead to or increase the potency of the actually influencing subjective factors. What I mean by that is that being toxic is equal to being pessimistic. Everything seems shitty to such a person even though it actually isn't.
Here's how pessimism affects the gaming experience: Pessimist gamers have a tendency to be toxic because they already start the game with a non-positive mindset - they're either in a neutral or already negative state and since they are pessimisitic any negative experience has a bigger impact than a positive one and so the ratio of good and bad experiences will always drift towards negativity even though objectively it should be positively favored. An example I can give for this are people who flame their team even though they are winning. The objective outcome doesn't matter since the toxicity comes from the individual's bad mindset.
I want to bring this even further and say that that's the reason why Dafram is such an asshole. Being a dick online is another phenomenon I have thought about. The short answer is pseudo-anonymity - Because of lack of information people you "meet" online aren't really "people". Feeling sympathy or any positive affection for someone you can't even see is difficult because of lack of unconscious emotional queues which are necessary to develope trust which is the foundation for positive emotions. Agressive emotions however don't need that, they are more primitive because they act as a defense mechanism. That's the reason why a big portion of people you meet online, especially in a competitive team vs team game type, act so rude. Unconsciously they don't see each other as people and have a tendency to be agressive to such entities. That's pretty much what Hitler did with the people regarding Jews, that's what any dictator does - manipulating his people to hate the scapegoat entity who are no longer humans to their eyes.
The last point I wanna talk about is Dafran's lack of appreciation for the opportunity he has been given. This can be led back to another characteristic of pessimism - low self-worth and living standard. Because everything is naturally negative to pessimists they also see themselves to be of low worth. That's why they are "content", at least as content as a pessimist can be, with a poor living standard and a shitty job and don't show any appreciation for opportunities to improve their life style, either because they think it won't last anyway or because, unconsciously, they are afraid of the resposibility and don't want to leave their familiar but shitty life which doesn't bother them too much since to pessimists everything is shitty.
Damn, this became longer than I thought it would lol
I will tell you why ppl are toxic over the internet cause I was once like that too, cause I just wanted to see the world burn as it treated me badly, 2edgy5me
GoDAnimations You can use this a thesis topic though.
Agent LUM33 already in planning
GoDAnimations Holy shit man you really know what you're talking about huh
It may also be he's bored with being the best. The only time he loses is when his teammates suck, so how do you take out that frustration? It must be terrible to be the best at your craft. Imagine how boring not having real competition is. It's the fault of his talent, not his personality. Literally, this 'condition' so to speak is present in famous athletes, and they have one of the highest worlwide rates of suicide. It's boredom that causes this. What's the point to doing something you know you'll win at?
Well, Dafran went 4-0 on his debut in Overwatch League LETS GO DUDE!!!
Cammy he definitely changed his life around in one year
Then he got shelved thank god.
@@kp5602 I mean, he dismissed himself lol. Not really "got shelved".
Of course Sty loved Dafran because of his positioning and good aim
The Dankest Pepperoniii The second I read this comment, he was saying "You naughty boy, don't do this again". Wth.
for the people saying "it's just a game": so is soccer. do the players just stand in the corners if the odds look bad or leave the field and stop playing? no, they don't.
Inma Onryo of course you fucking try anyway. If you don't have that mindset then you don't belong in a competitive game mode.
If you want to be picked up by future teams, yes, you continue to play.
Ya they do, in fifa ill just run in circles if i lose
Radium 98 pfff soccer is another shit for try-hards
Yes but you are still making money off of competing in these tournaments and should take them seriously as that is what you agreed to since he joined a team and joined these tournaments
and now he's playing torb in the OWL preseason smh ..
I know right? Who could have guessed when this happened he'd make it to the main stage playing torb on ilios in round 3 of map 5 against carpe and the fusion?
lmao
And now he's gone :c
@@Minty_Mentos_ oh yh lol
and now he is a farmer
I don't wanna claim to know what his issue is but if I were to hazard a guess, I think that he enjoys the game and playing it and sharing the experience but joining a team competitively meant the game went from being something fun he liked to do into a chore and responsibility he had to fulfill. And it got to the point it was just frustrating and he had enough and it simply just wasn't fun anymore. So rather than simply quit (if he even can) he was seeking a way to get kicked out. that way he can play because he wants to and not because he has to.
First Don Diego possibly
Tristan Durose haha, I like your terminology.
Tristan Durose
There is no "or", playing for fun is a really millennial thing to do if you think about it.
Even if this were the case he was fucking it up for his team. It takes a severe lack of character to agree to the commitments of being part of a team and then pulling something like this just because he "wasn't having fun anymore."
So even if your theory is in fact the case it doesn't make him any better. It would just make him selfish and childish.
Enuma Elish Could not sat it better.
News coming soon: Stylosa "pro" player banned because he thought that ranked didn't matter.
The PeaceForce yes please!! I want to rank up bit there is always someone nota trying cuz rank doesnt matter... fuck u stylosa >:V
Babuh Takeo oh come off it 😂
he is not a "pro" player
Genji Shimada by definition he is technically. but ofc hes not a "pro league" player.
NxTH he is tho....
fucking good imo. idc if they're a good player if they are making the game less fun for others, just ban them.
edit: it's like the employee who does almost all the shifts at the workplace say "fuck it I'm gonna have fun" And ruins the workplace for that one day. that's fire worthy
i think he should be IP banned from blizzard and then it will be a sign for very one else to stop acting like kids in these games and grow up
IP ban does nothing lol.
If that were to happen, 60% of teams I get would be banned. I seen no downside to this.
Hes too high profile to be able to play it on stream again, Blizzard will just insta ban him kinda like Riot did with Tyler1 I reckon.
"i think he should be IP banned"
IP bans do absolutely fuck all. Blizzard has his email, personal details, payment information, and a bunch of other extra information they wouldn't have for normal players to make sure the ban is enforced. (And tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if they included unique cryptographic keys for each copy of the game people buy, so he shouldn't be able to log-in with another account if he got one.)
Enforcing this ban in particular should be easy-peasy. Especially since it seems that his team is just as disappointed with him and will probably inform Blizzard if he does try to circumvent it somehow.
I completely agree with Blizzard here, Competitive is meant to be a serious game with everyone playing their best, having trolls and leavers there is unacceptable. I think everyone who is reported multiple times for trolling or leaving should be banned from Competitive for the current season. I am glad that they made Dafran an example, instead of an exception.
And trolls can't report people? I agree with banning trolls but I have heard several trolls in voice chat this season already claiming that they're throwing because the team is shit and that they've reported us all. If this continued to happen I'd end up banned for having trolls on my team
Rowan Mayer "serious game" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sam W hmmm reporting people for no reason?, 🤔🤔
Never thought on that,thanks for the tip dude 👍👍
didn't know people still used emojis, you must be 12
aSymm could be or could be not 🤔🤔🤔
Turns out that Dafran wasnt actually that Selfless
So what was he?
Quilt anti selfless
Kitchen Nightmare?? KITCHEN NIGHTMARE??
EXCUSE ME! THAT IS HELL'S KITCHEN (The soup is dry)
He switched to kitchen nightmare at one point, for what it's worth.
Twilight .Wizard It's fucking RAW!
lam SAUSE
Twilight .Wizard You yankee dankee doodle shite
It might be kitchen nightmare over in England, cause I do not know if you can say hell over there. But yes it is hell's kitchen in America
Obviously he was watching kitchen nightmares to better learn how to flip a burger. Sense that's the only job hes going to be able to get from now on.
Duckie hope you flip burgers to lmao
Duckie Daayum...nice
Duckie Lol made my day XD he should flip burgers.
Lol, he still has his stream to make money
Isaac Jones he burned his burgers too black, so burgers can get shelter from Finland.
and still no report system on console...
blow up we will never get it
blow up cause no one cares about console, and no one will care. its pc first with this game. console second.
Alexander Worley and this is why overwatch will become the most toxic game ever because of pc players
scherard lindsay true as fuck
Alexander Worley ur fucking PC Player ! We are 1 Community and Not 2 (PC and Consol) so SHUT THE FUCK UP
Guys its ok Darfan gots a great career giving epic and legendary customer service at McDonald's 😸
I think it's a really bad idea to have someone like that, anywhere near our food.
rudy 918 I'm betting he's eating a Big Mac right now.
Or direct contact with customers in general.
I hope spatulas are hitscan
He’ll probably throw the food on their face like he threw the game.
If it is true that there is something in Defran's life, then I am sorry to hear that. However Blizzard was right to temporarily ban him for not single-handedly trolling but for encouraging trolling from others. There needs to punishments for players who don't take competitive mode somewhat seriously (even the number one player). You shouldn't be banned for leaving one game, but if you are purposely trying to make things hard for your teammates and opponents, then competitive is not the game mode for you.
KingofTerror isn't making it hard for your opponents a good thing? Lol
Ya I understand
He wrestled me but was defeated 2642-0 try to beat my streak
With cheese Mr. Paper. With cheese.
Daddy Kaplan has spoken
Jeff Kaplan my overwatch comp is unly giving me 15 sr wen i win.
Jeff Kaplan no thanks
Jeff Kaplan is that ur rank
Dafran, Dafran, Dafran
Even with tracer you can't run from daddy jeff's hand
These comments looking hilarious 2 years later. Let's grow dude!!!!
LET'S GROW DUDE
what
I guess he's going to be flipping burgers for a while, he threw that opportunity away.
Elijah Powell he can stream
Adbulaziz Adbulwhab I wish him well streaming then hopefully he gets the help he needs and realized the mistakes he's made.
Elijah Powell He's only gonna be out for 3 months
Adbulaziz Adbulwhab not for long he has broken so many Twitch rules as well, one being malicious hosting another streamer
Just can't stream Overwatch for a week. If I am reading this correctly he got banned from his accounts, as in multiple ones and probably all. I expect Blizzard to ban every new account he tries to make and stream with.
does this mean maximilius is getting banned?
Ajmdorset I guess
Ajmdorset I hope not
SHUTTHEFUCKUP
Stoner Watch don't you mean "shut the hell your mouth" 😂😂
probably
i mean i can't blame him. kitchen nighmares is a great show.
If it's a great show you'd know that that is Hell's Kitchen.
Shadow kitchen nightmare is also a show lol
oh i geuss i missheard it but hell's kitchen is also a great show.
It's Raw!!!
Sty said it was Kitchen Nightmares but it was actually Hell's Kitchen on the stream footage
4 advertisement in a 12 minute video
Fallen Crows classic stylosa
Placed all weird too
uBlock Origin addon. profit.
Feels bad
heard of AdBlock ?
Let me guess, good aim bad positioning
Jesusmuzik this legitimately made me lol
Jesusmuzik lmfao
Jesusmuzik lmfao
hahahahahahahaha quality comment lol!
hhhahhahaaha
I think its his TIME to say goodbye
i had sex with my own asshole
I am a spoon why not sex with a fork?
that is not the TIME, now tell us what we want to hear
plz
5 years after all that and he’s still one of the best ever to touch overwatch #LESTGODUDE
No lmao
hes still one of the best hitscans@@niggachu420
@@niggachu420in his prime, he was top 10. Throwing games because he got bored
@@niggachu420 dafran is literally doing a series where he reaches top 500 on a fresh account with every single hero. If that isn't the definition of the best player then i dont know what is.
He's literally showing us complete mastery of overwatch by reaching the top 500 multiple times with multiple different accounts with multiple heroes. Total mastery of overwatch.
*cough cough* MaximillianMus
Max and Dafran are my OW idols. I'll be a troll as long as this game exist.
Aren't max and dafran the same person?
Max is better than Dafran and this British dude
Ignacio Watkins oh yeah yeah
@@justjustjoo torille
The sad thing about me a overwatch player is the fact I am a good sportsman ship player and good in genearal and even get some messages and people going on about whatever i did was pretty cool no sarcasm at all. But if I try competitive I can feel my heart beat and is doused in fear of getting told im horrible and in anyway I try to fix the problem getting all these awful sayings while competitive is just well...the same as quickplay...But has some little bit more of meaning (in my opinion) .....it gets so bad at times that I would even mute myself the voice chat and not dare look at my messages.... yes im a shame to admit but I even cried for being bad....I would be a character that was helpful if i knew how to play them and knew what to do......I love giving good feed but im just to afraid....also i have no friends to play competitive with so it makes it quite worse...
Heh, same problem here. I love the game, I like how it plays, I really enjoy playing it because I've found heroes that suit my playstyle really well, etc etc. But I just can't get myself to "gitgud" playing alone and just always play with my friends since I'm afraid of doing bad and getting those "mean" messages. And even then I can't play frequently since it's rare for 6 of my friends who knew each other are online :(
You have to think of what possibilities the enemies can do and during the situation.....I love playing the characters I do because well ther personalities are beautifule and I can even relate to....kinda like a guide if that makes sense...I also love team work.....But also just watch some people play and look up tips online....but also try new things
Nah, it's not even that. I play good, my winrate's at a pretty good condition (55%) on 29xx SR. It's just, when I make 1 mistake, and someone blamed me for it, I get 100x worse. And just reading that on chat makes me feel real bad and turn off the game after that match.
Yes I'm a whiny crybaby lol
namYa oh I know right!? Like one of the times I was the only tank no healers or anything so I was like great I'm road hog and I'm on fire and taken down the enemie teams two tanks but I still get yelled at.......its rediculouss some times but one thing in human nature is people not knowing when your wrong and need to take a step in to fix it and not continue to defend a thing you don't even agree with...
Spirit Cudaback aww. I know that feeling. I play quite well in Quick Play, but when I try Comp, I get worried and panic cause I'm afraid I won't be good and get called out. :/ Sadly, all the times I have played Comp resulted with toxic and rudeness. lol. I am gonna stick to Arcade and QP until I have the courage
It's sad really, he gets to earn money and do the thing he loves by playing Overwatch, but he throws it all out the window. Me. I would love to be as good at the game as him (Me being in Silver) and dreams of one day playing in tournaments :(
keep trying and getting better and who knows you probably will with the right motivation :)
Train Hard and improve yourself, you can do it and I believe in you
Just what I thought. I'm in hope to get finally to diamond and he is #1 without much effort and throws it away...
Siriflex hey keep trying I was in silver in season 2 and now I'm in mid diamond, it's just a matter of finding what heroes you can further develop on while still enjoying the game
He _loves_ Overwatch? A dude watching youtube windowed over the game is an extremely bored individual. He literally said he didn't give a fuck about his career. He feels trapped that this video game is his only vocation now. He's, quite literally, lashing out at his job. That video game life only leads to isolation and being chained to computer all day just to make a living. That shit is a prison...
Dafran throws and convinces people to ruin Competitive and he gets a slap on the wrist but I play Torb on Attack and I get a permaban.
*_E q u a l i t y_*
+joshy2 boss Toxic Teammates = I'm a bad player
Quality logic right there mate.
Also it was a joke, learn to take one.
Thank you. I pick Hanzo, get raged at, and then reported by those same ragers and I'll get silenced or banned within a minute. Has happened three times. Yet this guy can do all this and Blizz just be like "take a timeout from competitive for a while, bud."
Luke - Ario its ok i play torb on attack sometimes
Every attack game I have played Torb, I won it in record time, Torb is a great hero if you know how to play him, just duck down behind the turret and keep hammering it and you are practically invincible, just be careful of pharah
@PandaHero, Purposely choosing a hero that will be useless in a match is equivalent to AFK, the whole point of Overwatch is to pick counter heroes, that is why they allow hero switching, but, most people jump want to build that ultimate even though it wont do any good
How about the fact that nobody wants to play Healer ? Isn't that Throwing the Game from the start ? I either have to play healer or be prepared to lose as idiots in my team pick a full team of attackers with 0 heals
I respect people like you
you can play healer
You're an idiot, you've demonstrated the exact reason no one picks healer. Because at the start of the game everyone thinks they're the best player there, so they all pick DPS, then they complain because there are no healers "I either have to play healer" You see my point? You're complaining about playing healer, so are the other 5 players on your team. YOU are the problem.
yudhistirs dude I think he's trying to say all your teammates think the same way as u too. so mebbe it's just the matchmaking matching u up with 6 non healer mains.
Overwatch is Not an RPG or MOBA for ppl to main classes, everybody is expected to switch to counter the enemy team, that is why you can switch upon death, else it would be like Dota or Battleborn
Can't wait to see him serving me at McDonalds, though he might throw my order!
Blockomopve I doubt this will end his career
ask him if Gordon Ramsay is in the back
*throws big mac at your shirt and pours jars of pickles over himself and every other employee in the kitchen*
Spike and then spunked it all away by being a tosser. better to have loved and lost I suppose.
+Spike Technically yes, but he threw away his job, so he only had it for a very short period of time. By comparison, even though most other people have less flashy jobs, they would keep it for a lot longer, so in the long run, they are technically more successful.
Why are people defending him? Even if he has depression that's not an excuse. So just because he's a pro he shouldn't be banned okay...
Ahmed Ali I'm mentally ill as fuck and if I get tilted I turn off the damn game. It's never an excuse.
Evgeni K me too dude! I'm mentally ill and when I tilt I just turn off the game, jesus.
Cuz we don't like to see such potential wasted. It's sad, and we all know what depression is like, and want him to get help, because we're nice people.
i don't think anyone is defending him tbh
Seanohaha I dont think anyone who hasnt experienced depression knows what it's like to be depressed. I'm sure I know what he's going through because when I feel depressed I just feel like I want to throw away everything I've done.
Job options for Dafran:
Taco Bell McDonald's Subway Burger King or playing video games all day
🤔
Katos i would pick mcdonalds from your choices. but i would pick a really good restaurant.
Subway
you somehow assume people can't go to uni? gg
Geert Matthys 23 and flipping burgers was his job. Doubt he's going to uni.
- Darfan, my son, you must choose your job: Flip burgers all day and get paid shit or be a famous gamer who gets paid to play a videogame.
- I honestly do not give a shit what happends to me and my fucking career, you can all go fuck yourselves.
Flipping burgers it is, then.
And here i am thinking: "Wait, old Hanzo Arrow, instant Mercy Rez? Is this on Experimental??". Oh, that video is four years old... That explains a lot...
It's only a season ban. He gets to go back to professional games when the season ends.
Owen West I don't think it's a season ban
Vincent, Blizzard gave him a season ban for pro level. His team then kicked him out.
Owen West not really. What he did is considered a "career suicide". Basically no pro team will ever want him now because he might snap again.
u do realize the season just started right? thats like 2 + months
ninthjake Yo, he's one of the best. Every pro team wants him my guy
Maybe he got a promotion to head burger flipper.
How the fuck did this guy made the name "Overwatch ISIS"
Like wtf! 😕
doesnt matter if he is the god of overwatch, if he is trolling and being toxic deserves to be ban.
jointjohnson Just mute for 3 months.
Shut up and #throwfordafran already baby
you poor little sensitive snowflake. your father failed you.
@Herp Derp I can't imagine having a dick that small...
@@Daniel-cq4mf you've probably turned yours inside out and come with your own set of pronouns.
Go away.
people need to learn to not be toxic or throw, this is a step in the right direction! thank you blizzard!
Sande oh haha, oops typo :P
Asap Momo what?
NightcoreD3stiny just ill remove it i was trying to be funny lmao ignore it
Asap Momo oh ok
"people need to grow up"
FTFY
I don't care that it was offensive. I care that he was intentionally throwing and being toxic, and spreading that toxicity.
hubi shane isn't it annoying now that whenever someone disagrees instead of arguing a point now all we have to do is cuss at them. YA that sure gives a respectable look
Cpt. 8s Huh, guess you have lots of privilege then if you think nothing was wrong with someone using the N word. The N word and the F word (Not f*ck) are so incredibly offensive to some people.
Trust me, the entire community would have to be racist, homophobic, transphobic, and sexist for your paradise to be reality. Whats your argument against that?
Melting Squid Man up
+Melting Squid
"Trust me, the entire community would have to be racist, homophobic,
transphobic, and sexist for your paradise to be reality. Whats your
argument against that?"
You know it's people like you why the words "racist", "homophobic", "mentally-illphobic" and "sexist" don't mean anything and are buzzwords, right?
My argument against your statement is that it is better to be free than to be save(Edit: except of course when your phisical health is directly infringed upon like "kill all homosexuals" etc., if it isn't used comedic).
"Huh, guess you have lots of privilege then if you think nothing was
wrong with someone using the N word. The N word and the F word (Not f*ck) are so incredibly offensive to some people."
There are liberals and libtards, you belong to the latter. Also, you don't know what privilige is, fuck off(quick recap, not being offended by everything, not suffering from a victim complex and/or not having a too high selfpity ≠ privilege).
Just a question: Would you not walk ever again because it might be offensive to a lame person?
Cpt. 8s Not even a similar comparison, as with yours I am not openly offending this person. Not being able to walk is severely restricting, so naturally it needs to be accepted that people who can walk will, with no intention of offending anyone. Banning offensive words restricts your vocabulary by just a few words, therefore it is quite common for offensive words to be banned. The N word flaunts white privilege. Not only is your comparison completely illogical, but completely useless. Do you think lame people are offended by others walking and not doing anything they know is offensive to anyone even in the slightest? Get real.
You offended a lot of people with what you just posted. If you don't realize why or how you just proved my privilege point.
That is a nice statement from Brad. He thought about the health of Dafran, he thought about the game, the fans, and the Blizzard.
Oh how the phoenix rose from the ashes.
Absolutely no sympathy for people like this, a true champion is humble and shows sportsmanship in both victory and defeat.
HarrisonPayne ppl wanna give him special treatment all because apparent mental issues which i think is a joke
ok calm down connor mcgregor
well if he has mental issues then its not really his fault
So the rule is no sympathy for anyone who is not a true champion, got it. You do realize you're talking about a human being, right? I'm not saying he deserves special treatment, I'm saying he deserves normal treatment, people have personal lives beyond their careers...
Yeah he is just a person, but he's a person being paid to play a game under contract and should by no means exhibit this sort of behavior on his backers and teams behalf
0:43 Sty Protecting in their spawn
He was clearly throwing arma packs in this clips. *-BANNED-*
BEST PROFILEPICTURE EU you should've win something for this comment XD
POKÉMON KEVINATOR ups my bad
Today I experienced top tier toxicity for the first time. I had always heard about toxicity from youtubers and reddit and stuff but never gave it much thought. I figured people were just overreacting and needed to suck it up. however, today I was playing comp (2650 sr) and was doing capture point on illios. I was playing genji and this other guy was doomfist(we'll call him edgelord steve), we are playing this match and I'm doing semi bad (first match of the day,no warm up) but tried to stay positive. We lose the point 99 to 100 and morale was down. next round is about to begin and edge lord steve switches to pharra and asked me to switch to a healer (He said he would but that he was carrying the team with gold eliminations). I replied that I would switch but that I had gold elims and gold damage (Because he was being annoying and yelling at everyone the last round). I switch to mercy and try to heal everyone that I can, edgelord steve tells me to stick on his ass and heal him. I tell him that our other healer is a lucio and while he was good he can't heal anyone. He gets real pissed at that and says I'm a shit healer. We do win this round and as we do so he says "You can't rezz for shit mercy) I don't know where that came from because I rezzed 3 people that round (Not great but I am an offence oriented person who prefers lucio for healing) Next round I'm still mercy because I know he will get triggered if I switched. We had 99% and they had possession and 85%, only four of them were alive and I was going in with two people about to rezz two more. I thought we could win the point but for some reason the two stop following me (without me realizing) and I rezz the 2 and we all die. we regroup for one last effort but the enemy's all had their ults and wrecked us. edgelord steve says it was my fault for wasting rezz even though I was the first targeted in the end when the enemies used their ults so I wouldn't be able to rezz anyway. For the last round I switch to Zen and stop talking because I'm sick of his shit, and we lose the round/game. The end screen comes up and edgelord steve says that he carried the team because he had 38 kills (because he was dps for 4 99%-99% rounds). When he says this two people who hadn't talked all game get on the mic and say how he's a toxic asshole, that made me feel a little better but I still hated that game and even considered leaving early to get out. Sorry for bitching and moaning to you guys but I had to get it off my chest
Ben Shapiro no one cares
Trash gold players lel
You should start wondering why every single online game has the mute feature.
Way better to mute someone instead of finding yourself writing a theorem on TH-cam about what happened
Wow, one of the few Stylosa videos where he didn't obviously ramble on for far too long for that YT $$$. Really interesting video. A well-deserved like from me!
not really, just gameplay with blabber as usual. takes like 30 mins to create
Tbh Blizzard mostly did this because he threw a game in their tournament, ultimate disrespect.
Sigma Throw a game on my tournament,I"ll throw you out of my tournament :^))))
to support dafran about the match, it was 99/0 on overtime, so there was very little chance of them winning, I think I would have GGWP'd at that point. playing torb is completely unforgivable tho.
As someone who has played games all their life, and dreamed of the day when gaming could be a sustainable job, this is really sad. I've never been as good at any game as this guy is at Overwatch, and he's pissing away an opportunity many people would love to have. One day, he'll look back at his actions, and wonder how he could ever be so stupid.
this didn't age well.
you know at 23 you still can be a complete child. This guy Dafran obviously has a problem but this is the first example of a pro player that acts like tons of professional athletes already do. People either can't handle the pressure and implode or just act like a moron. With what I am seeing, and not knowing Dafran's side of the story, this seems to be a case of the latter.
finally someone with a brain
I don't know what I should write to this. I think he deserved this but at the same time he was one of the greatest player in Overwatch... He was my Hero.
R.I.P Dafran
MagguTv Just because he's a good player doesn't make him a nice person. He's a disgusting toxic idiot that deserves worse
Banned for 1 Season.
I love the background footage of genji charging the enemy zarya all game.
Lmao
Dafran still has a career and is the best streamer of all time #TeamDafran
No matter his mental health and stuff...he honestly shouldn't have acted in such an unproffesional and toxic way...sorry but he deserves it. Hate me but that's what I think.
Jose Cruz have abit of humanity.
no one is perfect and expecting perfection when he might as well for all we know be on a major breaking point from the massive stress his likely under for being a pro player instead of the guy flipping your burger you seem to forget that.
SuddenFool He deserves all of this.
SuddenFool He deserves this, he's not sorry and he shows it. Someone like that doesn't deserve kindness.
densup That's kind of fucked up TBH. Pretty much like saying a depressed person doesn't deserve help because they don't try and not be sad. Everyone deserves help, whether they take it or not is their choice, but everyone deserves the option. No one's life should just be ruined because of one choice, especially if that one choice involves something as harmless as a video game.
David Vaihansky You can't say for certain he doesn't have depression. There are infinite types of depression and they do different things to different people. We don't know what Dafran motives were. There is a possibility that he's just a dick and wanted to ruin his and many other people's overwatch experience, but there's an equally likely chance he could have depression. Nobody knows except Dafran.
"It offends me, it makes me feel bad" sorry mum
cant believe this was 4 yrs ago geez
The irony is his team name was "Selfless"
Throwing is the most selfish thing someone can do on overwatch...
lmfao 😂😂😂 i love how he watches gordon ramsey 😂😂
Mental break down Gaming why?
What the... but he is throwing how can u love that
Meme Article WHERES THE LAMB SAUCE
These 2 other comments are retarded they aren't saying they like that he threw they said that he watched Gordon Ramsey you guys can read right?
Never underestimate the power of nihilism and how it reduces talent into pathetic, chaotic self-destruction masquerading as humour.
Imagine giving a shit OMEGALUL JEBAITED
Is what twitch chat would say
Is this why he played torb on his first league game.
That wasn’t throwing...
He's not an adult to be honest , he's 23, I was as arrogant as him when I was his age, I was as good at high level play as well, but it changed in my late 20's, especially after I had kids.
My message to you is, take this time to take a break, come back to this game if you still enjoy playing it.
That was what my clan leader said to me when I lost control of my actions
facebook.com/Daniel.Francesca?lst=635781735%3A1005645941%3A1502789457
This is him isnt it. I`ve been to Horsens Denmark many times. :)
I've met with 12 year olds who are more sensible and behave better than this. It's not an age issue. It's a issue with one's attitude and disposition.
Dennis Chan so have I, but it doesn't mean he can't change, if I could change my out look on life, so can he. When I play games now, I still get competitive, but I have a lot more control.
23 is definitely an adult. He's an immature adult, but an adult none the less.
Looks like Dafrans goin back to McDonalds. FeelsBadMan.
Dumb LiTe a season ban
I feel like he deserves that... he was throwing in highest possible rank. I cannot understand behauvior like that from pro player like Dafran... I am just so disapointed
Sry for spelling. I am using phone keyboard
Overwatch competitive in a nutshell. Game has become way too popular and all the cancer kids will bury it like they buried CS, LoL, Dota etc.
Bogdan Dobre none of the games are "buried" they are probably the biggest competitive games in sports and still make soooooo much money and overwatch is becoming that
Ryan Whisenant yep, and considering ow just had its first anniversary but already on its way to 2nd world cup, itll only get even more popular from now on
Bogdan Dobre I quit playing dota, league and csgo because they all got cancerous as they got so popular. Right now I'm really enjoying OW comp and I'd be really sad if it got ruined as well.
its cancerous of you dont have friends to play with
If it wasn't for LoL, then it'd be amazing how this game still remains popular with shit like this spreading like a plague.
It's just a matter of time before Blizzard brings down the hammer like Riot did in LoL.
Hey, guess who's on the OWL stage now bois? What's even crazier is that tracer clip at the start is literally in the Atlanta Reign Roster Unveil video.
You learn to treat others the way you want to be treated in kindergarten. If someone can't follow a rule they learned in kindergarten they deserve to be hit with some common sense.
Then hopefully you learned it sometime during your life.
to make this clear... being a Pro player or a top 500 or something doesn't mean he has the right to throw games and be toxic... he got banned and he deserves it i know you guys don't like it and neither do i but it's what he deserves
Who's not accepting the ban?
A few people have sympathy for what is clearly some kind of problem wih him "because unlike other trolls he was willing to do this with very distinct reprecussions to his livlihood
he got banned for 5 days,dear god clickbait is real
IIIiiiDAWiiiIII he also lost his ability to play ranked for a whole season and the ability to join a few tournaments. which cost him his livelihood for the next few months seeing as he's a pro gamer
fast foods constanlty hiring,so i see no issue.
last night i saw dafran dressed as a chicken running around a professional over watch home game in Atlanta screaming lets go dude to rapturous applause.
If Valve ran Overwatch, he would have been either ignored, or just lifetime banned with no questions asked.
Jonathan nope
why he act like this? Well because he miss his job at the fast food restaurant...
*welcome to moe's. tell me what you want, I have a life too*
But he still can buy a new account, no?
He just won't be making any money and cannot compete in competitions, so he can still play but his overwatch career is over
No, because Blizz tracks your ip adress and you can buy an acc but the ban affects it too. The only thing he could do is get a new PC but i doubt he'll do it just for a season of OW
yes he can LOL its so easy to change your IP regardless he doesn't even need to play in tourneys he can easily make good money streaming this shitty game
Changing your ip wont work. Even if that did work if he would stream on twitch he would raise awareness and blizzard would ban him again
One my mate got permaban, but then he hardly reset his account.
Deserved
Speed1337i ye, I watched his throws on twitch
Speed1337i totally
i thought it was entertaining
Completely okay to ban him. But I'm also glad the team is willing to give him the help he needs, what ever it is. We don't know why he's suddenly behaving like this, and it's none of our business, and fact that the team want to help him could suggest something is very wrong, so good on them that they want to help him.
I don't know much about the guy but I watch a bit of DSPStanky to pick up some tricks for Lucio. I've seen a couple games where Stanky gets put on a team with Dafran and the guy just acts like such a dick all the time to the extent he reminds me of the dbags from Jersey Shore.
what is that background gameplay. 3 blades and not 1 kill
come on bro
Hes obviously experiencing some kinda mental breakdown or whatever. I dont believe he wants to go back to flipping burgers. Gamer life can still be shit even if he earned a lot of money. Playing for more than 10 hours isnt healthy for ur body or brain. Wake up-play-wake up-play for months
Pierre Stromae and what? loads of people work a legit job for 10 hours a day
Dude seriously? Have you ever watched his stream. He doesn't have any problems. It's just his personality
Pierre Stromae some pro players usually physicaly train, instead of sitting on the pc all day
Gamer life is 8 hours a day of gaming where you can take breaks whenever you want throughout the day (except during team prac time), you're at home, and you usually have fun with your team. No set hours either. It's not shit unless you let it be shit.
If he's staying up all night playing and getting up at 1 pm it could be a shitty lifestyle but that is so easily manageable, just a sign of maturity that this guy CLEARLY lacks.
I know it sounds like bullshit considering people have normal jobs, but imagine this for a YEAR since game release, nearly no social life except online, and they do play more than 8 hours(its just scrims THEN streaming) AND everyday. I'm not saying that it's harder than a normal job, its just unnatural and can make u go crazy. I dont watch his stream idc about his personality. If most of them have personal trainers i wonder why most overwatch pros are fat. Many people who started when he did are leaving their teams, taking breaks... why? Trust me they dont have "fun" playing anymore
I used to love Dafran btw did you guys know he used to miss around in platnium and "troll" even though he's literally the #1 player in the world..
Terrible Net I dont see the problem
Maybe He's salty bcuz he lost $500 to surefour?
Josh Snow he didnt lose the money it was a fan hosted game, it was the fan who sent the money to s4 dafran had nothing to 'lose' apart from pride and the respective game. I cant believe no one out of those 96 people that have liked this comment has pointed it out.
k.
Josh Snow that was a while ago lmao u stupid
***** I know right
I feel bad for him as I do believe that he has something going on in his life as someone with such an opportunity would never waste it without reason so I hope that’s the case and he gets better
Dafran this Dafran that, why don't we talk about stylosa's horrendous genji. xdddd
What if it's a very good fast food restaurant?
Fritz Fritzl chick fil a
in n out
Still contributing to kids having obesity
Sty is such a gentleman
or pussy rather.
A pussy master
I have a bad and often toxic attitude. I'm self aware of this fact, but my problem is that my aggression is against players who troll/AFK/intentionally lose. I'm so obnoxious and loud though that often the focus of peoples attention is turned on me instead. I've had suspensions from MOBA's before, but never an FPS. I don't want to try-hard every single game, and I'm friendly to every person I meet, and can joke and riff with complete strangers quite easily, but I just want everybody to enjoy it, not just me, and I instantly rage when people want to ruin a game for everybody else in the room. Even winning is meaningless if they other team had their game ruined by their own team mate.
i guess Dafran will always work at Mc'Donalds.
(edit) OMG thanks guys for all the likes ^_^
Hayden Rauchbauer He'll get fired for throwing food
Vandyno Having worked at a McDonald's this reply made me die XD
throw machine broke
McNoot The Boot *🅱roke 😤😤
Hayden Rauchbauer dont say that thats heart breaking
Well now he’s in OWL
This aged well
What was wrong w him in the first place?
@@osiasrobbins9122 did you not even watch the video
To conclude, Hell Kitchen is better than Overwatch.
Not gonna lie, him trolling as Torb while playing Gordon Ramsay in the background is fucking hilarious.