Is It Possible To Split An Arrow? | MythBusters | Season 4 Episode 11 | Full Episode
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- A look back at myths that generated a truckload of angry fan mail. In Split Arrow, the 3 Mythkateers take another aim at Robin Hood's arrow. Is it possible to split an arrow?
Using science as a tool, Hollywood special effects experts attempt to debunk rumours, urban legends and popular myths that have captivated the minds of many individuals.
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Season 4 is so classy and relaxing...
It's definitely possible to split arrows, it's just really really unlikely. An archery club I used to go to had a bunch up on the wall, they would cut them out of the target for display every time it happened. This place had been open for decades though, and had maybe 30 splits. Not the kind of thing you can pull off in a day or two.
It's never satisfying trying to practically demonstrate a negative result. The world is a mysterious place.
I did it by accident once. Granted I didn’t hit the target but it did split an arrow that had also missed.
Yeah I've been to a club that had the same. Maybe 3 decades of shooting, realistically multiple millions of shots taken, the wall had maybe two dozen splits. My dad was a national champ in his youth and has one split over 50 years of archery.
Had they asked that archer, he would have said "yeah we have them on the wall here!"
@@VidelxSpopovichno one needs to know that “accident” part
I can confirm that the Robin Hood shot is possible. I managed it around 2008 during my studies in Bavaria in a bow club under witnesses.
It was pure coincidence and I never managed to repeat it. However, it is technically possible. At the time, I shot homemade wooden arrows with a plastic nock and bodkin tip.
This shot is like luck and a fart, if you try to force it it will be shit ;-)
RIP Grant, I can't believe it's been 4 years.
11:16 I remember having that same brick phone Adam has. My how times have changed!
Inadvisable to tell one's partner in a text message that they bookmarked a video about a meat missile.
xD building historical correct ammunition to proof that a fictional characters actions are just a myth. LETS GO!
Both having hit a robin hood at 18m with modern arrows and owning a period accurate medieval bow. Modern arrows are hollow so when it hits it stays straight and splits it a decent way. Medieval arrows are WAY heavier than modern ones so attempting it with a broadhead modern arrow is... a very inaccurate attempt
Should of vacuumed dried the Salami... too much moisture.
The moment they discover the archer's paradox.
Quite frankly, Mythbusters needed to explain up front, and did so to a lesser degree, that the arrows in the myth and in their attempts had wooden shafts. I'll give them credit for showing how the movie got one arrow to split anothe, namely the split arrow was a bamboo one.
For all thosecommenting on having seen split arrows and/or have personally split an arrow, it would have been helpful if they had stated which type of arrow was split.
I was literally looking for videos for splitting the arrow last night.
What has BBC Masterchef got to do with this? Even in one of the moonlanders, somebody had really installed the wrong software for the automatic descend. Mistakes, mistakes and new mistakes. Humans are dumb.
Getting some serious arrow-envy here!
we all know in Hollywood movies, the arrows are props that were made to split easily, nothing to do with being authentic or period accurate or not. to think by now they should know that. guess not
I worked at #1 archery and range for a loooong time I seen multiple times arrows splitting arrows and even from novists it's true !!! I have personally done it and I use cedar shafts and have witnesses this is true !!!!
I wonder if the shotgun exploded because of the air in the shell that would have created a small air pocket in the gun barrel once the shell opened. Cause there is a decent amount between the buckshot
The arrow reaches max speed once it has fully left the bow. Point blank it’s accelerating the arrow in the other one…
Reading the comments, i am thinking "are we still shooting wood arrows these days?"even u guys say are real. Robin hood could spit an arrow, just like i could win Lott jackpot , which is unlikely 😅.
This ep always bothered me, as I never believed the salami was igniting.
They revisit it later and proved the launch was only from the gas escaping, the salami added no thrust.
@@LukeTheJoker yeah I know. But I watched this ep when it first came out. Didn’t know if they would revisit at the time
Why didn't they test a revolver under water? And they should have tested firing from water out in to air too! After all these years, these 2 thi go still bug me.
bodkin ? ....
That was Robin Hood making that shot, you guys are trying to step on Superman's Cape, damnation and lack of mythical zeitgeist with the attack on eternal Robin Hood. He stole from the rich to give to the poor and not the chuds of the Toob. LOL.
myth busters should team up for this myth with this scandinavian bowmaster lars smorebrod or kinda
i dont get the split arrow myth, professional archers very often split their arrows in comepetitions
The show was really inconsistent about urban legends that actually had external proof. The show was about TESTING stuff, and only occasionally when they failed to produce a result would they acknowledge reality.
I have literaly split my composite arrow with a compound bow. I'm not even that good with a bow, it just happened. Pissed me off too because those arrows are expensive.
I've seen that happen too in my club, with a carbon arrow and compound bow. Wood on wood arrow with a traditional bow, I would say it is almost impossible, because everything has to line up so perfectly.
@@Kuzmorgo Sometimes it's hard to say if something is perfect if coincidental. I definitely was not trying to split an arrow but it happened and was perfect.
@@ardvark84what type of arrows were they?
@@Fernando-ek8jp Glass fiber with pointy round tip. Hollow inside
@@Kuzmorgo I'd suspect there's also an element of build quality there. a wooden shaft might not be quite right and a modern arrow may also have a flaw that cracks it through.
eventually it comes down to right place, right time, right tool.
these older episodes, where the "build team" are treated more like assistants are a really nice vibe. I like seeing Adam and Jamie interact with them.
I mean, there's nothing wrong with the newer episodes, but this season seems to be unique in that way
Great, now I want some salami.
Launch…… more like lunch
Just go for it. I've been alot happier since I gave in to my deli cravings. Aw yeah, a little provolone, maybe some of those little pickled hot peppers and I'm a happy guy.
Me 4
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I wonder if it was spicy or mild
I guess pigs CAN fly after all...as long as they're in the right form and with the right ignition.
so the fans want period accurate arrows but also want them made from cedar? hmm...
ONE fan wanted cedar as that particular piece happened to have very straight grain and sent it to them
Yeah, there's not much "period" about the arrows. For the Richard the Lionheart era Robin Hood, he'd probably have used a shortbow (c.f. the Waterford, Burg Elmendorf, St Andrews and Pineuilh bows, as well as the written and archaeological evidence in Wadge’s “Archery in Medieval England”), and the arrow would have been ash, pine or perhaps even yew(!). The nock would have been a bulb nock as well. Horn nocks don’t seem to appear until the mid or late 14th century.
They refused to use arrow heads again ...
yeah, still carbon arrows and hobby arrowheads. They should stick to bodkin or bladed arrowhead like type 16
Yes! The more blade shaped tips would split way better!
I have seen an arrow being split once about 6 years ago, when I was doing Archery for about 5 years. It was an arrow made from a branch.
I have seen many, many Robin hoods (hitting the back of an arrow), at some point I shot around 2-3 a week of them, never split my own arrows though.
Tori was definitely not feeling the love over the revisits in this episode .
But Adam and Jamie were actually ver y excited about the salami rocket to balance.
27:15 That's why revolvers are more useful inside the water.
I think the thing that really dates this episode is the fact that garands were still commonly available and glocks were still considered exotic
I saw videos of extremely skilled archers hitting and splitting arrows now if it's possible with historically accurate arrows I don't know but it is definitely possible
its very often like that in those episodes, I wish they had invited experts more often, but jeah I guess it would be less entertaining and more costly for them to always finish a myth by flying someone in, also the internet wasnt the same back than, its easy now to find proof or contact people who do something astounding.
@@Mindinvasion ye thats true, easy to judge 20y after the episode came out i guess
@@Mindinvasion could also just have gone to a sanfran archery range and asked the owner about the wall of arrows, but i guess that would just be considered lies unlike in other myths when supposed professionals make a claim that something has happened but the proof is classified
@@airi9673 Idk in a few episodes they acknowledge that there is clear evidence that things have happened, and that they just not were able to recreate them, so maybe that would have been enough, it just seems a bit cocky that they assume, that just because they couldnt recreate it, that its not possible, especially if their community back than already made an uproar about them getting it wrong the first time 😅
very possible tho rare to split arrows. a girl in my archery class did it during practice once and we had to go gawk at it XD she was a bow hunter with years of experience shooting . not something most people are going to achieve.
That upward shot of the rocket with the moon in the background was actaully pretty inspired. Art I say.
Just look up Lars Anderson - he has videos of him splitting arrows, catching them in mid flight & even shooting them out of the air with another arrow.
very special arrows, bows and techniques. he literally has nothing to do with real bows except using the same word.
@@AkiSan0 Except he has videos using multiple types of bow & multiple types of arrow.
@@AkiSan0 bullshit dude :)
that arrow head is a broadhead not a bodkin
Yes you can split an arrow, I've done it. It was a complete fluke and I wasn't trying to do it but I did it! I was shooting modern arrows made of hollow carbon fiber with 100g field points, not wooden ones with traditional style arrowheads. I was shooting at a distance of about 20 yards or so. The odds of making a shot like that are astronomical for a novice archer so I feel totally blessed to have made that shot even if it was a complete fluke.
Maybe that's the trick?? You have to not-aim for it and be super-lucky. But either way - congrats to you!
Nice! Me too! I've probably shot over 10 000 shots and I've only managed it once! I've busted like 10 or so knocks but only one good split. After I got over the rush though I was like 'well that's $50 gone' 😂
Yeah they need the distance for the arrow momentum to settle mid-air and be led by the arrowhead, instead of point blank just having the strings impart a force on the target arrow. And metal splits are definitely more common than people think, my friend did it twice and they knew a guy who had 3.
I mean it's real easy to split a hollow body arrow, but the myth is definitely about god old wooden arrows
Why are they using a target arrow tip and not a broadhead? That'd be the easiest way to split an arrow
Or a crescent splitting tip. Tbh a lot of the myths were limited by the simple fact that the web way young and info wasnt as available back then.
The shotgun overpressured. Those shotguns are made to be lowpressured and the water acted as an barrel obstruction. With kaboom as a result
The fact that they strung the fetching that much is ridiculous
That was my main peeve as well.
I am not an expert on any of this, but seeing the wire up there made me think that it would become an obstacle for the arrows, as the wire might keep the wood in place too much and form a barrier for the arrow to push through, especially without a sharp arrowhead.
And then she goes like ( 44:04 ) "You can see it following straight down the grain, till it gets to about, here", which is exactly where the wire was, you can even see some split wiring there.
Regarding salami rockets - I am wondering how the heck Spike Milligan knew ? He worked into the script of the Goon Show 'The Tuscan Salami Scandal', wherein the said salami forms the warhead of a ground-to-ground missile called the 'Hot Dog', which, in the words of Grytpipe-Thinne is designed to 'Bombard Soho with its own, deadly kind' th-cam.com/video/tkDWSAeIg-g/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUjR29vbiBTaG93IFRoZSBUdXNjYW4gU2FsYW1pIFNjYW5kYWw%3D
"Damn, I'm lightin' salamis man!"
Salami rocket sounds like an Italian space program
People should pay more attention. The splitting was centered around the myth that Robin Hood could do it in the middle ages. Not that you can do it with modern arrows.
Yeah I've done it twice with aluminium arrows ❤from D in the UK 🇬🇧 BTW 50m and 30m both recurve bows
That RCAF logo (Royal Canadian Air Force) giant tube/barrel thingy for the rocket intrigues me.
They absolutely could have split the arrow... Just replace the bow with the M1 Garand from the other segment lol.
I robin hooded three blowdart arrows from 6m. They all hit straight into the flights made from earplugs and electricval tape on the end of 3mm thick, 20 cm long very sharp steel spikes
I did archery for a while, and even as bad as I was I buried one arrow inside another, but that did make both arrows useless and I donated them to the archery range. Can we still split an arrow from nock to tip I don't know because I shoot at a lighter draw weight than you are doing and I shoot aluminum arrows that maybe can't be split 100% of the length? Good luck.
How did they split the arrow in the 60s movie Robin Hood ???
robin hood would have been fighting soldiers in some sort of armor so probably was using a war bow of 70+lb that bow the archer is using looks a bit to easily drawn for 70+lb maybe even 120+lb that robinhood might have used in the time period
It's taken over 60 direct hits... to get close to a one in a million shot... Duh!
Why are they steaming them with no spuppurt? that will make themnot straight. Agian with the wrench in the system
In a few years, will there be a n episode opening with "Who were the mythbusters?"
Funny, i live just a couple towns over from boards by george. Cool!
They wiggled the jig last ime. No point in aiming if you gonna make the wjole thing wiggle
Does it really count as a salami rocket? it seemed like just the nos or w/e igniting since the "rocket" doesnt really last longer then the first few seconds.
Most rockets of this size only last a few seconds, and the nox would burn much quicker as an accelerant
From memory they revisit this again because fans pointed out it was just the gas escaping that launched the rocket.
I'm a very amateur traditional recurve archer and even I have split an arrow! Granted it was a carbon fibre arrow and it only spilt down half the length of the arrow but if I was using a 60lb instead of a 30lb at the time I think it could have gone all the way through, even with a stiffer spine.
My dad has a double arrow he did 30+ years ago. It's wedged a decent way in but not a full split. He's never done it again lol
@@Lyysabeth I won't be surprised if I never manage another one 😅, the conditions have to be perfect no matter how good of a shot you are, and most of the conditions are out of your control lol
Cap
Why not get expert arrowmakers to make them. ?
Hehehe meat rocket.
I think broadhead arrows
24:15 wtf he doing with the gun?
hehe, Tory's not happy
i think the user of a black trough liner , was silly, they should have used white plastic
I was thinking the same.
While i usually prefer black and darker colors, but in a case like this, you'd want to see as much as possible happening in the water, plus making it easier to find the pieces.
Also a wasted opportunity to get some cool and unique high speed camera underwater shots.
bc all the way
Use a bamboo
I've split an arrow when I was about 11-12 or so. Me and a friend was shooting arrows and by random chance it just happened. No real skill involved, just luck.
Robbin hood is of course a fairy tale, but it's not impossible that at some point that has essentially happened (a lot of arrows has been fired throughout history) and whomever fired it just styled it out as being on purpose.
Another pointless "test".
Obviously any wooden object can be split, and an arrow is no different.
But its like trying to draw a straight line down the centre of a piece of paper, by standing across the room and throwing a pencil at it.
The target result is possible, but your technique would have to be so precise, as to make it practically impossible.
The key to split an arrow is using broadhead arrows and not just a pointy arrow. When Tory split that wood plank he used a knife and not pen!
I´ve seen a split arrow at a medieval bow contest. That guy used a broadhead arrow and a pretty strong bow around 200 lbs. The arrows, all wooden handmade ones, had been also pretty deep in the target, it was thick straw with a wooden plate behind and a cloth or leather front. Only half of the arrow was sticking out of it so i guess it couldn´t wobble much.
It was a perfect split and a great show.
They don't just tell the myths, they do something completely different, overcomplicated and guaranteed not to work, just so they can say busted. I think producers don't wanna show things that work too well
ahahhaahha shooow
You can split an arrow, we call it a Robin Hood. You can split a modern arrow as well as these wooden ones. It’s more common to nick the arrow. I use a recurve and a trad English longbow, Ive seen arrows from both types split, not on purpose and not by me.
it is possible, but without luck, it is hard to do it, especially intentionally doing it.
there are just too many factor to consider in order to split the arrow
tbh, I think they could have done a better job. saying that, it is also understandable for them to bust it
My hunting partner and I have split bolts several times, they were ex caliber graphite bolts I think, I was running a paradox, and a nightmare, and he used a Canadian tire cheap crossbow
The target arrows they made are very thick. Thinner ones would split more easily.
Have seen a split arrow, and robbin hooded several aluminium arrows one of which split about 1 inch.
But can you do it on demand or replicate it reliably? I don’t doubt you’ve seen and caused it, but it’s not really a ‘technique’
I wonder if combination of salami and sugar would have been a better Rocket?
You need an oxidiser, in rocket candy the sugar is the fuel and the nitrate salt is the oxidiser, so sugar and meat is going to do nothing
The myth is 100% confirmed when you split the timber perfectly when starting to make the arrows!!! Im not gonna claim something can't be done at speed with a narrow, sharp projectile, if you can do it slowly with an axe
The bow thing... people that complained at the time are mentioned as "angry" when they just pointed out obvious issues in their method. I love Mythbusters, these people did a great job. But any time something where it's not a matter of reproducing a set of circumstances "scientifically" but there's an element of personal skill, they can get it so wrong. As in, when the myth says "20kg of explosive will do X", they can replicate that and find out if yes or no, it does do that.
But when the "myth" is that you can split an arrow but none of them have any experience with shooting? This may have been the most passive agressive revisit Ive seen and it's flawed at every turn. Adam and Jaime get help from modern experts when they know they're no good at something, like any time explosives are involved, people that dealt with explosives all their life are brought in (also legal requirement I guess). But the build team build a rather shoddy looking longbow and arrows that may use good wood and all but... bowyers and fletchers were professions back then, you cant expect to do even close to as good a job at making those items as them by just looking at some mails and/or "ye oldey times" descriptions. Historians and experimental archaeologists spend their careers reproducing these old techniques.
So they end up with badly made gear and use an odd machine, eventually getting a sports archer... doesnt matter if he's good tbh, he used a sports bow. These are between 30 and 50 pound bows... we dont precisely know the draw strength of all medieval bows but based on some few that were preserved and what evidence remains, war bows would begin at around 70 pounds and typically be more along 100+ pounds of draw strength. The biggest around 160 pounds in battles like Agincourt. Im no expert myself but Id wager that increasing the force of the bow (and potential strength of the arrow used) may impact on how they react when they hit an arrow. In all these tests, the best shots still didnt seem straight to me.
Now, all you gotta do is check for some examples online. Aside from people at archery clubs speaking of this ACTUALLY happening in their clubs with modern gear, someone like Lars Andersen can split an incoming arrow mid flight. So... yeah ofc this isnt busted, it's a thing average archers may see happen very rarely (witnessing 1000s of shots) and elite archers can just do if they wanna - someone who's never shot a bow would have trouble replicating it, even with a few dozen shots.
The arrow myth was about doing it centuries ago, not nowadays.
I dont... What difference does that make? What does that have to do with anything?
That arrow slicing myth is tricky, and they don't do themselves any favors here. Treating it like they were all pissed off at the fans is a bad start, then using a narrow wide tipped bodkin point just begs it to fail. Traditionally bodkins were used for war, to pierce armor where as broadhead arrow tips which are larger, thinner and meant for hunting were more popular and used by hunters which is what Robin Hood would have used. They would also be better at slicing down an arrow shaft. One last thing, that is not an arrow shaft they are shooting at, its a f**king broom handle, LOL. A proper arrow shaft is maybe half the thickness of their target 'arrow' and so would split way easier.
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The english armygrøn used rocket bomb Copenhagen in 1807 (first terrorbombing in the world).
Dumbest Mythbusters episode in creation.
Kinda but the salami rocket was funny
The way I see it, they were mostly taking the piss on all those armchair experts. Nothing wrong with that at all in my book.
@@georgg.5730 they still got it wrong and if i remember correctly, a V3 is coming in the later seasons. ;)
@@georgg.5730 Well the "armchair experts" are right on the arrow though. It's very much possible, just takes a lot of luck.
In before fake sympathy posts of RIP GRANT
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