2-4 players. Derp. Anyway, Civ a new dawn is a solid game, and while i say expansions rarely ever fix a game, this one pretty much does. Not that the game was broken or bad to start with, but the expansion does a great job of elevating the core and filling in the gaps in the experience. Also, the designer of Ark Nova needs to buy James Kniffen a beer if they ever meet.
Subtitles are auto generated, but always contain errors. Especially Kia Ora Koutou, You tube never knows what that is. So i do a manually correction and try to line up the timing for the subtitles better as well, so full sentences are on screen at any given time
@@3MBG You should see how microsoft's dictation butchers my patter (and I talk faster than you) during my private podcasts for my patrons. They are hilarious.
Have to say, I'm always super impressed with the way you summarize these reviews/explainers so well in such a short time - it really feels like very complete reviews despite the length! Thanks and keep it up!
When I first saw you mention this game, I perked up and said "Hey I have that game!" (my collection is small), and you praised the game for being rather good for what it was. This caused me to go back and play it with my wife and we both agreed it was much better than we gave it credit for. We will have to check out this expansion. Thanks!
Just watched 1 video of this channel. It is officially my new favorite channel. You do an amazing job summarizing what i was googling for in hours. Keep up the good work
Definitely agree that the expansion takes this from playable to excellent. The increased asymmetry and exploration stops the feeling of each game playing out the same, just with different city states, a lot of the time with just the base version
I played this last night and enjoyed it. Took a bit to wrap my head around which direction to go but the barbarians around everything I had helped. James is a great designer; always happy to see a fellow classmates work.
I really enjoy the action card mechanic with increasing value for unused actions. You mentioned in the video that this mechanic is used in other games. Only other game I know that uses that mechanic is Ark Nova. Are there other games that use this mechanic? Would love to find more of them.
We just played this tonight and enjoyed it, but definitely see what you mean by it not being quite a civ game. It's good, especially that card row and how it works. That's awesome! But it just feels like a race to finish the goals. The expansion sounds awesome, so we'll be looking to get that soon. Need to play it again so I can get the win I deserve. lol. I should have won, but Will made a mad play and had 3 attacks to take over my natural resource, with very low odds of winning, and he got it on his third roll! So we tied and he had one more wonder than I did, so he won by tiebreaker. Dangit! 😛 Have you experienced many tied games?
hey Great video I have a question though, can Caravans or the army collect the resources by moving onto them or resources can only be collected by building control tokens on the top? if so would that mean that resources can be only collected if the city is built next to it because the control token can only be placed next to the city, is this correct? Can you also tell me if a new city has to be built on the place you have an army or caravan two spaces from friendly space, or it can be any empty tile 2 spaces from friendly space? My understanding is army or caravan builds the city! thank you
Quite different asides from the core theme. 7 wonders is far faster, but its really just a clever drafting game with some player interaction. This is far more involved mechanically.
I was an old school civ player too. This is way easier to get on the table, plays in 1/4 of the time or less as well. its a legit 2 hour game with 4 people.
Yeah, just checked, a A new Dawn came out in 2017, Ark Nova in 2021. Although i suspect we will be seeing a lot of games with this core mechanic next year.
Fully agree with your take here about this being more of a race in the base game than a proper civ game and the expansion fixes it. Well done. That said, we found the person who rushed "Flight" in the base game could go on the offensive and wreak havoc to win quickly. That was the base game's real issue. We played easily a dozen games of this and the aggressive player nearly always pushed the end game faster than the turtles could power up unless they got a really advantageous opening position. As you said, the expac fixes this completely and the game is truly excellent now. Lastly, expacs for incomplete games (Mostly put out by *cough* Stonemeier *cough*) almost always fix what was broken, but that doesn't mean the game becomes 'good'.
@@3MBG I was thinking Tapestry (have no idea if the expansion actually added meaningful decisions or not) and viticulture. Never played TI3. Architects of the WK still feels broken after playing it again tonight. Will try with Works of Wonder to see if zerging the cathedral still always wins.
Actually, a fair few commonalities. Like, treating them like a wargame is a losing proposition, and managing action selection is key to winning. This one is just a bit shorter and more focused.
There’s an official solo mode that I believe you can PnP, but nothing included in the box. Some folks on BGG also made some unofficial variants to make it compatible with the expansion
Yeah, no solo mode in the box. I figured thats the best way to say if there is, or isnt a solo mode. Because if i say a game has one, and people open the game and it aint there, i would get questions.
2-4 players. Derp. Anyway, Civ a new dawn is a solid game, and while i say expansions rarely ever fix a game, this one pretty much does. Not that the game was broken or bad to start with, but the expansion does a great job of elevating the core and filling in the gaps in the experience. Also, the designer of Ark Nova needs to buy James Kniffen a beer if they ever meet.
Subtitles are auto generated, but always contain errors. Especially Kia Ora Koutou, You tube never knows what that is. So i do a manually correction and try to line up the timing for the subtitles better as well, so full sentences are on screen at any given time
My fav fix is how when i say 1-4 players, the auto subs say "wonderful players"
@@3MBG You should see how microsoft's dictation butchers my patter (and I talk faster than you) during my private podcasts for my patrons. They are hilarious.
@@3MBG The auto-correct is not wrong.
Even the greats make mistakes!
Have to say, I'm always super impressed with the way you summarize these reviews/explainers so well in such a short time - it really feels like very complete reviews despite the length! Thanks and keep it up!
Cheers. I clearly cant cover every rule in the time, but i try to get the important ones in. Enough to tell you what the game is all about :)
When I first saw you mention this game, I perked up and said "Hey I have that game!" (my collection is small), and you praised the game for being rather good for what it was. This caused me to go back and play it with my wife and we both agreed it was much better than we gave it credit for. We will have to check out this expansion. Thanks!
Just watched 1 video of this channel. It is officially my new favorite channel. You do an amazing job summarizing what i was googling for in hours. Keep up the good work
love the fast card based action mechanic. love the art style
Definitely agree that the expansion takes this from playable to excellent. The increased asymmetry and exploration stops the feeling of each game playing out the same, just with different city states, a lot of the time with just the base version
I played this last night and enjoyed it. Took a bit to wrap my head around which direction to go but the barbarians around everything I had helped. James is a great designer; always happy to see a fellow classmates work.
If you are still in touch with him, tell him good job from me
Thanks for giving this game some love!
Great, insightful review. Thanks!
Thank you for this beautiful short video!
You are most welcome
Agreed! It’s a really good game made great by the expansion.
For a far heavier civilization game try Civ 2010.
There's a player variant for the base game of New Dawn that had exploration.
I really enjoy the action card mechanic with increasing value for unused actions. You mentioned in the video that this mechanic is used in other games. Only other game I know that uses that mechanic is Ark Nova. Are there other games that use this mechanic? Would love to find more of them.
Ark Nova is the only one i can think of as well. Should have said "another game" but i wasnt sure at the time
We just played this tonight and enjoyed it, but definitely see what you mean by it not being quite a civ game. It's good, especially that card row and how it works. That's awesome! But it just feels like a race to finish the goals. The expansion sounds awesome, so we'll be looking to get that soon.
Need to play it again so I can get the win I deserve. lol. I should have won, but Will made a mad play and had 3 attacks to take over my natural resource, with very low odds of winning, and he got it on his third roll! So we tied and he had one more wonder than I did, so he won by tiebreaker. Dangit! 😛
Have you experienced many tied games?
hey Great video I have a question though, can Caravans or the army collect the resources by moving onto them or resources can only be collected by building control tokens on the top? if so would that mean that resources can be only collected if the city is built next to it because the control token can only be placed next to the city, is this correct?
Can you also tell me if a new city has to be built on the place you have an army or caravan two spaces from friendly space, or it can be any empty tile 2 spaces from friendly space? My understanding is army or caravan builds the city!
thank you
[As Sean Bean] Can you build a civilization that will stand the test of time?
"There is no solo mode. It's a game for 1 to 4 players..."
2-4, yeah, my bad
If you have not played this before, would you recommend adding the expansion for the first game?
Probably not. I'd defintely play the core game a few times as you never know, you might prefer it that way and its less rules to learn at once
Great game indeed👾
Yes I am working on a game with a five card priority system
Me too :)
How does this compare to 7 Wonders?
Quite different asides from the core theme. 7 wonders is far faster, but its really just a clever drafting game with some player interaction. This is far more involved mechanically.
Good to know. My wife and I love imposing 7 Wonders on our friends.
And I used to play Civilisation back in the 90's, so I'm very interested.
Thanks
I was an old school civ player too. This is way easier to get on the table, plays in 1/4 of the time or less as well. its a legit 2 hour game with 4 people.
Ark nova's card track system is an innovative mechanic?
Nope, i think you may have missed that this came out years before Ark Nova
Yeah, just checked, a A new Dawn came out in 2017, Ark Nova in 2021. Although i suspect we will be seeing a lot of games with this core mechanic next year.
Genuine question or a troll…?
Fully agree with your take here about this being more of a race in the base game than a proper civ game and the expansion fixes it. Well done.
That said, we found the person who rushed "Flight" in the base game could go on the offensive and wreak havoc to win quickly. That was the base game's real issue. We played easily a dozen games of this and the aggressive player nearly always pushed the end game faster than the turtles could power up unless they got a really advantageous opening position.
As you said, the expac fixes this completely and the game is truly excellent now.
Lastly, expacs for incomplete games (Mostly put out by *cough* Stonemeier *cough*) almost always fix what was broken, but that doesn't mean the game becomes 'good'.
The most notorious fix expansion for me was the first one for Twilight Imperium 3. That game was so busted on release
@@3MBG I was thinking Tapestry (have no idea if the expansion actually added meaningful decisions or not) and viticulture. Never played TI3.
Architects of the WK still feels broken after playing it again tonight. Will try with Works of Wonder to see if zerging the cathedral still always wins.
How is this game compared to Scythe?
Actually, a fair few commonalities. Like, treating them like a wargame is a losing proposition, and managing action selection is key to winning. This one is just a bit shorter and more focused.
Wait what. No solo Mode? I always play solo.
Civilization without expansion is an okish game. With the expansion it's s top 10 for me
There’s an official solo mode that I believe you can PnP, but nothing included in the box. Some folks on BGG also made some unofficial variants to make it compatible with the expansion
@@atomicpasta7073 that's true. Completely forgot. There is an official PnP from the developer though
Yeah, no solo mode in the box. I figured thats the best way to say if there is, or isnt a solo mode. Because if i say a game has one, and people open the game and it aint there, i would get questions.
No solo mode 😢
Apparently the designer made one and its on the FFG site somewhere. But its not in the box
Think I was spoilt by the PlayStation 3 Civilization Revolution interpretation.
Civ 2010 by FFG was better, IMHO.
Much much longer though, very different game spaces asides from the theme.
I prefer the 2010 game
Fair enough, that's a pretty solid game from what i remember of it.