Star Z45: Spain's Improved MP40 Submachine Gun

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  • @jono3952
    @jono3952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +626

    "And like the MP-40 stock, it wobbles."

    • @TitanV
      @TitanV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      And thus, he looked upon it, and touched it. And behold, it wobbled indeed.

    • @onyx9943
      @onyx9943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's a feature, not a bug...

  • @plolsteg7705
    @plolsteg7705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1037

    Star firearms: it looks german but we swear it isn’t

    • @joemama.556
      @joemama.556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      hey we saw the oportunity an tried to take it lol

    • @zaikolebolsh5724
      @zaikolebolsh5724 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @Jonas the good old Spanish "CAMBIASO" (switcheroo)

    • @joaquinandreu8530
      @joaquinandreu8530 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@abyssus9304 Spanish cannons and swords were the best up until the XIX century, not exploding like many German, British and French guns.

    • @manuelmendocorral958
      @manuelmendocorral958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@zaikolebolsh5724 😂😂😂😂 The spanish "CAMBIAZO"!!!😂😂😂😂 AHHH!!! What old memories of "Mortadelo & Filemón", and their "CAMBIAZOS" (Changes).

    • @thesturm8686
      @thesturm8686 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@abyssus9304 so it looks like a german made, but won't malfunction if handled by anyone without a doctorate in engineering?

  • @dsambernardo
    @dsambernardo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Hi Ian, I am from Spain. The "ET" letters with the numbers mean "ejercito de tierra", meaning this particular unit belongs to the Spanish army, specialised in ground operations. Even nowadays "ET" letters appear in Spanish Army vehicle's license plates.

  • @messmeister92
    @messmeister92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +642

    *Star:* “Hey can we copy your homework?”
    *Germans:* “Yeah, but change some answers so it’s not obvious.”
    *Star:* Z45
    *Germans:* “I don’t know you.”

    • @joanmora4410
      @joanmora4410 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      its like this, the german designers comes to spain and work for Franco, after this, they do the CETME

    • @panzermacher
      @panzermacher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@joanmora4410 joan, German engineers didn't make their way over to Spain until AFTER the war, this was designed during the war, it's pretty clear the STAR design team used a couple of MP 38s probably left by the Kondor Legion during the Spanish Civil War as a blueprint.

    • @lars9925
      @lars9925 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@panzermacher
      Considering the alliance between Nazi Germany and Fascist Spain, it is quite likely that Spain did not make a copy in secret, but got permission and maybe even help from Germany.

    • @AragonDubs
      @AragonDubs 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joanmora4410 and the rockets for the apollo, atomic bombs, cargo ship motors, etc.

    • @raboalvarez9853
      @raboalvarez9853 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dolophyne = lilly

  • @conitobravo2824
    @conitobravo2824 4 ปีที่แล้ว +541

    I believe "ET" stands for "Ejército de Tierra" "Land army".

    • @Tankliker
      @Tankliker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Unfortunately for you the internet will see it the other way.

    • @alvarohernani6645
      @alvarohernani6645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@Tankliker he is wright. ET= Ejército de Tierra (the army) as a Spanish i garante that it's true

    • @Tankliker
      @Tankliker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jorgeguanche5327 yes ET the movie. I mean outside of Spain and mexico not many speak Spanish and also know military shortages XD

    • @amko899999
      @amko899999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ET Phone home.

    • @Cervando
      @Cervando 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@Tankliker You do know Spanish is the second most spoken native language in the world after Chinese?

  • @PvPene
    @PvPene 4 ปีที่แล้ว +228

    Germany: So when can we get these?
    Spain *staring at landing ships on the beach*: One sec I gotta get something out of my car. Brb i promise

    • @mrkeogh
      @mrkeogh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      German Engineers: "Oh, little Spanischer, zat ist a gut effort...vait ein minuten, WASS DER FUCH HAFF YOU DONE TO MEIN TRIGGER!"

    • @bluemobster0023
      @bluemobster0023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Avantgardist it's a meme

    • @anthonymartin6352
      @anthonymartin6352 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Avantgardist it's a joke , just like you.

    • @Len1977gt
      @Len1977gt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Laughs in French"

  • @slartibartfast7953
    @slartibartfast7953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    The trigger might not have been a great idea in practice, but you've got to admit the idea is uber clever.

    • @Hawk1966
      @Hawk1966 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Yeah but in the heat of the moment I can see someone getting seriously frustrated (and dead) when he keeps yanking single rounds and expecting full auto.

    • @edi9892
      @edi9892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It looks like a gun that can be fired with thick gloves, which is a bit surprising for Spain.

    • @thesturm8686
      @thesturm8686 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@edi9892 i don't think you could fit two fingers with thick gloves

    • @Trikipum
      @Trikipum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@edi9892 Saying this clearly shows you have no fucking idea about spain.. Just for your information, spain isnt a tropical country... It is fucking cold in winter and you gonna need gloves if you are at -10 C... so.. how can be that surprising?.. or you are just some american who believes spain is in south america?...

    • @ArmyGreensTanBoots
      @ArmyGreensTanBoots 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Trikipum so..... You're saying that Spain doesn't have mangos or monkeys...? 🤔

  • @ColdDoomOfficial
    @ColdDoomOfficial 4 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    “I left my mp40 in the Spanish kid’s room!”
    “Eh, I’ll pick it up tomorrow, what’s the worst that can happen?”

    • @crispr1782
      @crispr1782 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ this is what we call a ZASCA!

    • @MotivationMondays6
      @MotivationMondays6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mi penè ès mucho grandè

  • @EggwardEgghands
    @EggwardEgghands 4 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    Looks like an MP40 with a Suomi KP/-31 barrel shroud.

    • @MrDmitriRavenoff
      @MrDmitriRavenoff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Sexy, right?

    • @Taistelukalkkuna
      @Taistelukalkkuna 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      They sent Suomi-smg´s to Waffen-SS volunteers, don´t recall how many. They had some hot....erm...action. The Blue Division obviously adopted the offspring, while Finns and Germans were silent out of embarrasment.

    • @no-nonseplayer6612
      @no-nonseplayer6612 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Taistelukalkkuna muutama sata oli se Wiking divisioonalla

    • @ArcturusOTE
      @ArcturusOTE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@no-nonseplayer6612 Can I ask what that means?

    • @no-nonseplayer6612
      @no-nonseplayer6612 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ArcturusOTE it means that wef hundred finnish Suomi smgs were used ss Wiking division

  • @paulodeblas8354
    @paulodeblas8354 4 ปีที่แล้ว +231

    ET goes for 'Ejército de Tierra'

    • @morm608
      @morm608 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Must be the Army "Ejercito de Tierra" serial number of the weapon, not the production number.

    • @paulodeblas8354
      @paulodeblas8354 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@morm608 yes, that's correct, the last two numbers are 63 that corresponds to the year the weapon was given to the army

    • @Equiluxe1
      @Equiluxe1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I was hoping that ET stood for extraterrestrial. I can just see ET running around Hollywood waving one of those blasting all the nasty government agents out of his way.

    • @paulodeblas8354
      @paulodeblas8354 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Equiluxe1 that should be AWESOME

    • @manuelmendocorral958
      @manuelmendocorral958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you from a spanish speaking country?

  • @tuberaider
    @tuberaider 4 ปีที่แล้ว +414

    1:40 When you realize that STAR was trying to sell submachineguns to WW2 Germany, and the logo includes a Star of David.

    • @mixererunio1757
      @mixererunio1757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Cocky sons of a gun

    • @kermitderfrosch1704
      @kermitderfrosch1704 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Germany: 👀

    • @manuelmendocorral958
      @manuelmendocorral958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      The Franco's Spain never hate jews. The Spain if 1940-1945 saves 15.000 jews with her embassies in France and Poland. More of these jews live actually in Spain, but the Spanish Socialists and Communists deliberately hide it to insult him, since his current political supporters are Hitler's former friends. (PNV)

    • @johnny-smith
      @johnny-smith 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      erick breslin frost This is simply not true. Franquist Spain had a huge problem with Judaism and, weirdly enough, masonry. Maybe not to the extent of Germany but definitely serious enough.

    • @johnded3874
      @johnded3874 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      @Eric Ferguson How does not liking Judaism make someone a nazi sympathizer? That's like saying disliking beef makes you a vegetarian.

  • @Fofwner
    @Fofwner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    These guns were often used as standins for Mp40s in 60-70s war movies! ( Cause many of them were filmed in Spain.)

    • @houndoftindalos9580
      @houndoftindalos9580 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rat Patrol

    • @AshleyPomeroy
      @AshleyPomeroy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      One major exception was Kelly's Heroes, which was shot in Yugoslavia and had masses, absolutely masses of MP-40s.

    • @Condottiere1978
      @Condottiere1978 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like the Horrible "A bullet for Rommel" with Jack Palance

  • @ThePerks2010
    @ThePerks2010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Germany "we've made a simple machine gun, nothing can be done to overcomplicate it"
    Spain "hold my beer..."

  • @gustavogarcia-echeverria1190
    @gustavogarcia-echeverria1190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So finally! After 50 years I found out what it was that I saw that policeman with. I saw this gun at Police Headquarters in Montevideo, Uruguay, in 1970, and it really caught my attention as the armed forces had all US WWII surplus. Besides it looked like a MP 38/40 but the barrel shroud didn't match. For many years I thought it could have been a gun made in Argentina. Now I know. I remember seeing Astras in service with the Police also, besides the .38 Special revolvers. Thank you.

  • @Surv1ve_Thrive
    @Surv1ve_Thrive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Thanks Ian. Reminds me of the type of gun Hergé sometimes drew in some Tintin cartoon books which would make you question as a child if he drew an MP40 incorrectly or had made up a gun or if it was indeed an obscure gun he had drawn correctly. :) It seems a good design. Thanks for seeking it out and the excellent presentation as usual.

    • @JohnnyPollas
      @JohnnyPollas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love this comment

    • @plasmagunwh40k91
      @plasmagunwh40k91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But Herge was French... Why drawing a STAR?

    • @Olde1Fortran
      @Olde1Fortran 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@plasmagunwh40k91 Belgian

    • @plasmagunwh40k91
      @plasmagunwh40k91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Olde1Fortran thanks for the correction. But that makes me wonder more..

    • @techpriest5452
      @techpriest5452 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@plasmagunwh40k91 maybe he just liked it?

  • @101ECVGADGET
    @101ECVGADGET 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I used several of those while in the Air Force, just for fun. They were obsolete and with the fame of being unsafe. The service SMG at my time was the Z62.
    The mark ET391663 means EJÉRCITO DE TIERRA (Army) and serial number for that armed force.

    • @thesturm8686
      @thesturm8686 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting, how could they be unsafe? Deterioration during service perhaps?

    • @godzillaboe8897
      @godzillaboe8897 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hauptmann Sturm deterioration, poor maintenance, who knows...also when the army have a new gun they trend to call the previous one “unsafe” or “obsolete” while they still be usable like the CETME C or the Z63. Now they’re just trying to bullshit on the G36 for purchasing the 416 while the Spanish version of the G36 doesn’t have the same problem of the German version

  • @steveelmes9273
    @steveelmes9273 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I remember these from "The Rat Patrol" when they filmed in Spain.

  • @scttewegner72
    @scttewegner72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can not stress how much I love your channel content because it's not only informative, but historical. My college son who was an obsessive Demolition Ranch, Hickock45 watcher is hooked because he is a history buff. Fyi...it would be awesome of you could give him a shout out (Nico) and say "Go Greyhounds" in one of your videos? He's 19, refused to walkout his senior year against firearms, is playing football in division 2 college, while getting his pre veterinarian classes in. Keep up the great content sir and congrats on a job well done.

  • @jamesgravel7755
    @jamesgravel7755 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think that is one of the more beautiful sub guns from ww1 up to the 90’s. There is ones that are super nice but this is a mix of the super machined and the super simple. It’s right in between and a perfect example of just how much work goes into building a sub gun. Just beautiful

  • @Gonzo_Filmz
    @Gonzo_Filmz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    The recoil spring reminds me of the spring for a toilet paper holder😂

    • @CeltKnight
      @CeltKnight 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was thinking of a collapsible baton. But now I'll see a toilet paper holder. LOL

    • @rikantony6571
      @rikantony6571 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      lifes too short to be inspecting toilet roll holders...

    • @rikantony6571
      @rikantony6571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CeltKnight this is going into the dark hole of garand thumbs channel....

  • @davidwatchesyoutube
    @davidwatchesyoutube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I know Ian films a bunch of videos on each trip he makes and doesn't release them in the same order he films them, but the order he DOES release them in makes it look like he's racking up some SERIOUS airline miles...

  • @boomxchikn7556
    @boomxchikn7556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    When the weird Spanish kid starts hanging out with the weird German kid

  • @triggerfingerstudios
    @triggerfingerstudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Just when I thought the MP40 couldn't get any more art deco sci-fi...........

    • @scimatarpictures
      @scimatarpictures 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s such a good way of describing the MP40

  • @chrisnelmes7180
    @chrisnelmes7180 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I remember seeing these in early episodes of "The Rat Patrol".They had problems getting Thompsons at first.

  • @Gearparadummies
    @Gearparadummies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Eibar based "Star" made some successful designs, particularly the "Modelo B" and "Super B", both copies of the 1911 chambered in 9mm Parabellum of "Pulp Fiction" fame(It was Jules Winfield sidearm) it was ordered by Germany for the Reichspolizei(IIRC) to use. I learned to shoot with one of those. It was old, the barrel rifling was almost gone but all in all was reliable and I wasn't going to shoot far anyway.
    As for the Z45, it was still in service with the Spanish Legion at the time my great uncle was XO of the Sexta Bandera(Sixth Company) during the Saharaui uprising in 1957.
    Side note: I would take 9x23mm over 9 Parabellum everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

  • @General.Longstreet
    @General.Longstreet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I seem to recall these were used in the film Tobruk which makes sense as it was filmed in Spain

    • @USSEnterpriseA1701
      @USSEnterpriseA1701 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also used for both sides in the early days of the Rat Patrol.

    • @General.Longstreet
      @General.Longstreet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@USSEnterpriseA1701 Is that a tv show?

    • @USSEnterpriseA1701
      @USSEnterpriseA1701 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@General.Longstreet Yep. I blame my dad for introducing me to most of the shows from his childhood. I'm partial to Combat! and Hogan's Heroes myself, but the Rat Patrol wasn't too bad.

    • @Hawk1966
      @Hawk1966 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I loved that show!

    • @demonprinces17
      @demonprinces17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@General.Longstreet think on TH-cam

  • @ramonruiz9394
    @ramonruiz9394 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello, the words "ET", and followed by a serial number printed over the magazine, stands for: Ejercito de Tierra, which means Land Military. My father was in the Spanish military in 1965 in Africa (Morroco), and used to carry one of Star Z45. Thanks for the channel. Great videos.

  • @thespankdmonkey
    @thespankdmonkey 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That would be fun to try shooting one of these in .45! Very interesting firearm. Thanks for the video and happy double 20 New Year to ya!

  • @bwbethel
    @bwbethel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interestingly, these were used by the Allied soldiers in the 60s TV series 'The Rat Patrol". From Wikipedia: "The submachine guns used by the squad were unusual. Because the first season had been filmed in Spain, the producers obtained several fixed wood-stock versions of the Spanish Star Z-45 (9x23mm Largo) submachine gun[6] from the Spanish Army, in an apparent attempt to imitate the look of the WWII .45 Thompson submachine gun. This was changed in later first-season episodes when Thompsons were finally made available.

  • @Condottiere1978
    @Condottiere1978 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They served in a couple of European War movies shot on location in Spain in the mid 1960´s when they had not enough MP40´s or Italian Berettas, most famous one "Play Dirty" wirth Michael Caine, but also a couple of really bad ones...

  • @CaptainGrief66
    @CaptainGrief66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is a pretty great weapon, definitely has a place in my heart in my firearms heaven from now on

  • @Fabianp1960
    @Fabianp1960 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Ian!,i emailed you asking for a review on this one a year ago or so,I see you got your hands on one,👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @reset123451
    @reset123451 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In 2009 my grandfather saw me playing Call of Duty World at War in the living room, I was playing with the MP40 and he saw me and told me that he had that weapon when he was a Guardia Civil (spanish military police), I thought he was getting confused, that What he said didn't make sense and then many years later I searched for it on the internet out of curiosity and I found this weapon. He died a few years ago but since then it makes me happy to see that weapon, whether it's the German one or the Spanish version, I know It sounds strange but I miss him and I regret not having talked to him while I could.

  • @sawyere2496
    @sawyere2496 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of the best looking submachine guns I’ve ever seen.

  • @Awson50
    @Awson50 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Ian, that ET , stands for “Ejercito de Tierra” , which is the Spanish Army . Cool video about our very first “Zeta” . My father used that one till the beginnings of the 80’s at the “Ejercito de Tierra”; then they replaced those with the “new” Z-70B. Thumbs up for the video!! 👍🏻

  • @hamm6035
    @hamm6035 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You again bring us the coolest stuff!

  • @dillong7951
    @dillong7951 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool gun Ian thanks for showing it off

  • @MrRedbeard762
    @MrRedbeard762 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The sixties action show "Rat Patrol" was filmed in Spain (for the first season) and used Z45 full stocked guns as props replacing unavailable Thompsons.

    • @CommandLineCowboy
      @CommandLineCowboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Battle of the Last Panzer" used them, I was wondering what what the SMGs in the movie where, thanks Ian. (worst WWII movie ever)

  • @johnsouto5221
    @johnsouto5221 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This weapon was used in several WW2 movies that was filmed in Spain, and was used in The Rat Patrol season 1,but had a wooden shoulder stock.

  • @miguelangelsimonfernandez5498
    @miguelangelsimonfernandez5498 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The ET number stands for Ejercito de Tierra (Spanish Army). IT's the spanish Army inventory serial number

  • @tylerwilliams6022
    @tylerwilliams6022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saw this in the Spanish film Valley of the Dead. I think in Spanish it is called Malzinados. It's on Netflix.
    First I thought it was an FNAB 43, and then an MP40 mocked up as an FNAB 43.
    But then I noticed it had the charging handle on the right side. The MP40's charging handle is on the left side.
    I finally figured out it was a Spanish Star Z45, which makes sense as it's a Spanish movie.
    Kind of a cheesy zombie flick, but the guns make it worth a watch.
    Period correct guns used in the European theatre by Spain and various resistance groups.
    Astra 400s, Star Model Bs, No4 MK1 Lee Enfield, Thompson SMG, Webley Revolver, 32ACP Ruby, etc.
    I think there was even a Spanish clone S&W M&P 38.
    Or it was just a plain S&W M&P.

  • @garetz2011
    @garetz2011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't note the Thompson type firing pin when this video was released. Another gun to hall of guns like Thompson, PPD40, Orita, MP35, Welgun, Z62, Z70 and Beretta 1938.

  • @LAxemann
    @LAxemann 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a huge fan of the mp40 and this is the first "Interpretation" of it that I really, really like aesthetically. Damn.

  • @alvarohernani6645
    @alvarohernani6645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    ET: Stand for "Ejército de Tierra" (army). And the number may be an inventory marking

    • @tiagoabiramia
      @tiagoabiramia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sinisterthoughts2896 Maybe it was exported to another Spanish speaking country.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tiagoabiramia that is what I thinking. Probably came out of South America somewhere.

    • @andresdelgadoperez966
      @andresdelgadoperez966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ScottKenny1978 no, spanish guns from the army have ET in front of te serial number, this gun was used by the army.

  • @Astilath
    @Astilath 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That thing is in FANTASTIC condition.

  • @zupperm
    @zupperm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    So there’s no mechanism for the charging handle safety nub to stay open when it fires? It just assumes that it won’t close fast enough

    • @BrukusGE
      @BrukusGE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maybe to button is heavy enough to open it while moving back or something like that.

    • @Vi3trice
      @Vi3trice 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Inertia would have it slam forward.

    • @alxhatz8548
      @alxhatz8548 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Vi3trice Unless you can lock it in the open possition when you are about to fire.

    • @avenstad8433
      @avenstad8433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was wondering that myself

    • @TitanV
      @TitanV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It doesn’t “assume”, it’s where some things called physics and engineering come into play. ;) inertia as someone pointed out.

  • @gutiillueka
    @gutiillueka 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My dad used one like that during his military service....is great to see it here

  • @m.kriddick2731
    @m.kriddick2731 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Seems more complex than improved.

  • @ThatGuy-te9wh
    @ThatGuy-te9wh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    *sees Star or Astra*
    "ah dis gonna be good"
    Can you do the Astra Constable if you find it?

  • @arielscorpion68
    @arielscorpion68 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    NEMESIS : " STARS "

  • @alwaystinkering7710
    @alwaystinkering7710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've become a fan of Star and started collecting them. I wanted an MP5 until I found out from Ian they made some nice subguns! Now they are on my "when I win the lottery" list.

  • @cyclingtj
    @cyclingtj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 1960's TV show "The Rat Patrol" used these (with an added wooden stock) during the first season.

  • @charlesgagnon6925
    @charlesgagnon6925 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow ! Very nice sub machine gun !

  • @peterhessedal8539
    @peterhessedal8539 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Curious, what keeps that locking latch from locking bolt forward during firing? it would seem like it would lock into place when the bolt slams forward?

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you , Ian .

  • @same242
    @same242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *The Rat Patrol theme plays faintly in background*

  • @guatisnei
    @guatisnei 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The number of the base of the magazine of the weapon is to know to which unit or soldier the weapon is assigned. the letters ET corresponds to the acronym (Ejército de Tierra) "Army of Land". In Spain we have what we call here the three armies "land" "sea" and "air"

  • @thewidgetmachine
    @thewidgetmachine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve always wondered if this style of firing pin(struck from the front) could be used to solve the issue of crappy triggers and to an extent weight distribution in bullpups. It would potentially allow for a trigger group located with with the pistol grip and remove the need for the transfer bars which tend to cause the crappiness. The only thing my not an engineer mind can’t work out is how to reset a hammer that swings backwards.

  • @DonziGT230
    @DonziGT230 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What keeps the bolt lock from engaging when the bolt goes forward during firing? Just the speed, or inertia on the release lever, or?

  • @anthonydownes2286
    @anthonydownes2286 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Forgotten Weapons: makes a video.
    Dice: That would make some good playable content.

  • @alexandrevelhinho2327
    @alexandrevelhinho2327 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Interesting video. I believe the ET in the serial number stands for 'Ejercito de Terra', the Spanish Army.
    On a different note, I did not know that the Portuguese armed forces used this weapon. Could you, Ian, please indicate a reference?
    Thanks in advance.

    • @jorgec.a3123
      @jorgec.a3123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ejército de Tierra* ;)

  • @gnfnrf
    @gnfnrf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That trigger looks odd. Can you get it back fast enough to skip straight to full auto, or will the reset always trigger and catch the bolt for a moment giving you a stutter start?

  • @MrWarwick15
    @MrWarwick15 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! Thanks Ian.
    Rich.

  • @CrescentGuard
    @CrescentGuard 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    It looks like the result of a drunken one-night stand between an MP-40 and a PPSh, with a carpenter for a midwife.

  • @tankadar
    @tankadar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Me: sees title
    also me: impossible

  • @massimothetrog7111
    @massimothetrog7111 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the wood grips and side plates.

  • @Luchoedge
    @Luchoedge 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks so cool!

  • @FranciscoMartinez-lf4gb
    @FranciscoMartinez-lf4gb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Ian! and regards from sunny Spain! the other serial number is indeed and inventory number. ET stands for 'ejercito de tierra' , land military forces, therefore, army.

  • @frankwang5775
    @frankwang5775 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One question: the locking system on the handle looks like gonna lock the bolt automatically each time the gun shoot, can you please explain how it avoids this problem? big thanks

  • @joaquinsmith6503
    @joaquinsmith6503 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hola Ian.... The marks in the magazine well means ET (Ejercito de tierra)... un saludo....Love your videos.

  • @duanetrivett750
    @duanetrivett750 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only drawback for me is the two finger's trigger to fire Full Auto. I have always been interested in the Z45 . I was reading that some of these weapons had metal lowers instead of the wooden one's on this one but I have never seen one.
    Thanks for the video Ian.

  • @ranewridha120
    @ranewridha120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    “Agh! Its really tight agh!”

  • @BobtheHobo324
    @BobtheHobo324 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What prevents the bolt latch from engaging every time the bolt goes forward? Why is the mag release button on the right side?
    Great looking gun, just some oddness to its configuration, like that trigger.

  • @syhaidar7489
    @syhaidar7489 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    4:06 turn on caption

    • @ostkaaka
      @ostkaaka 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice catch. Hahaha!

    • @TheDougwoods
      @TheDougwoods 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well worth turning captions on 🤣😂

    • @easongoldman1011
      @easongoldman1011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, take the like and leave

  • @WolfgangAxZ
    @WolfgangAxZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you fire the gun wouldn't the bolt safety latch closed every time and prevent further firing?

  • @The_Last_Norman
    @The_Last_Norman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All things considered its a beautiful looking gun

  • @Spike-13
    @Spike-13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What a classy grease gun!

  • @spacecat77
    @spacecat77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I was pretty impressed until I saw the progressive trigger 🙄

    • @joaquinandreu8530
      @joaquinandreu8530 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well, it was discontinued in subsequent iterations of the Zeta, so you were not the only one.

    • @jalpat2272
      @jalpat2272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      more like double push trigger to me  ̄へ ̄

  • @avionics21
    @avionics21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question: What happens with the charging handle forward safety latch when firing? What about hang fires?

  • @BigATB
    @BigATB 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't understand how the bolt latch doesn't lock every time the gun goes into battery. Does it unlatch under inertia of the bolt going forward?

  • @udorechner6846
    @udorechner6846 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting gun and clip.

  • @jonmckay583
    @jonmckay583 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What prevents the bolt lock from capturing the bolt and locking it in the forward position?

  • @MrMotorz
    @MrMotorz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Usually ET means "Ejército de Tierra", that is, Army. But I don´t remenber the marks on the guns. During my millitary service the submachine standard model was the Star Z-70B. In the same way the assault rifle was the Cetme model C (7.62X51 NATO and no more than 2 rounds in full auto if you wish something around the point of impactt). Congratulations and thak you for the channel.

  • @kubrick1969
    @kubrick1969 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A lot of these guns ended in the movie studios of Spain, France and Italy converted in mp40s. Even in the 90's there were many still in use in some Guardia Civil installations.

  • @ianfarquharson3772
    @ianfarquharson3772 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think the difficult trigger pull is to discourage use of full air fire? Great video as usual.ThankQ.TkEZ>UK

  • @AtomicPeacenik
    @AtomicPeacenik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remember season one of The Rat Patrol?
    The main characters used these as stand ins for Thompson sub machine guns.

  • @Bloodreign137
    @Bloodreign137 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There’s literally not a single feature on this gorgeous firearm that I could have in California, but god do I love it. It seems like such a well designed sub except for the trigger maybe

  • @catsaxl7765
    @catsaxl7765 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ET here in spain normally refers to: ''Ejercito de Tierra'' who means army, you can show some of these guns for sale in internet without these marks. hope that i help you with these, but im not 100% secure.

  • @Hawk1966
    @Hawk1966 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is one funky trigger system. The compensator screams Thompson though.

  • @vampolascott36
    @vampolascott36 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like it. You squeeze the tigger for single shots, and squeeze the hell out of the trigger with two fingers for 'Oh shit, I'm gonna die' mode.

  • @neuzdost1939
    @neuzdost1939 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any idea why quick-removable barrel in the magazine fed submachinegun is a good thing??

  • @esquad5406
    @esquad5406 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You see them a lot on T.V. in the show Rat Patrol. It was filmed in Spain for some time.

  • @aurelioperez1363
    @aurelioperez1363 ปีที่แล้ว

    E T Ejército de Tierra both infantry and cavalry-armoured Thanks for make this I'm from Valladolid Spain

  • @Rick_Steel
    @Rick_Steel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looks like a gun from Valkyria Chronicles.

  • @shaemusdirtymoccasins6564
    @shaemusdirtymoccasins6564 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was going to say "Wait. STAR got their hands on something and IMPROVED it!?!?!" Then I watched the video. Yeah, "Improved"... You got me, Sir.

  • @DieguitoValle87
    @DieguitoValle87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Ian, ET means Ejército de Tierra (Army), other markings in spanish guns are EA Ejército de Aire (Air Force), FN Fueza Naval (Navy) y GC Guarcia Civil (Civil Guard). You can see it in for example, CETME L rifles. Best regards.

  • @diegoelvica
    @diegoelvica 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The second serial number is an Army inventory number, E.T stands for Ejército de Tierra (Land Army). Probably it has been said a million times in the comments but I'm just going to write it.

  • @jeffreymcfadden9403
    @jeffreymcfadden9403 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    first season "RAT PATROL" was filmed in Spain and these also saw service during this run of the show.

  • @joseancal6144
    @joseancal6144 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A good weapon, my uncle used it and commented that it was reliable and manufactured with quality.

  • @jorgec.a3123
    @jorgec.a3123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The serial number on the other side of the magazine weld must be related to army storage or something related with the army as ET stands for Ejército de Tierra usually which means Army