Genesis GV70 EV driving REVIEW - the fastest charging electrified mid-size SUV
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 พ.ค. 2024
- This is our in-depth review of the Genesis GV70 EV. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
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00:00 Electrified Genesis GV70!
00:24 Color choices
00:54 Length, wheels and suspension
01:35 Acceleration and speed figures
02:40 Frunk, motors and kWh battery
03:30 DC charging
03:48 Turning indicators
04:07 Key fob and remote parking
04:38 Interior: Key fob and doors
05:04 Real buttons!
05:46 Seats
06:04 Seating position
06:43 Interior cockpit overview
08:50 Infotainment system with Apple CarPlay
09:56 Digital instruments and HUD
11:03 Rear seats
12:52 Trunk / boot
14:27 Driving GV70 EV with sound design
17:08 Steering feel
17:58 Driving modes
19:05 User interface while driving
19:45 Recuperation modes
21:15 German Autobahn driving
24:14 Agile driving
28:13 Economy / real-world EV range
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00:00 Electrified Genesis GV70!
00:24 Color choices
00:54 Length, wheels and suspension
01:35 Acceleration and speed figures
02:40 Frunk, motors and kWh battery
03:30 DC charging
03:48 Turning indicators
04:07 Key fob and remote parking
04:38 Interior: Key fob and doors
05:04 Real buttons!
05:46 Seats
06:04 Seating position
06:43 Interior cockpit overview
08:50 Infotainment system with Apple CarPlay
09:56 Digital instruments and HUD
11:03 Rear seats
12:52 Trunk / boot
14:27 Driving GV70 EV with sound design
17:08 Steering feel
17:58 Driving modes
19:05 User interface while driving
19:45 Recuperation modes
21:15 German Autobahn driving
24:14 Agile driving
28:13 Economy / real-world EV range
#Genesis #GenesisGV70
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It's sad that Thomas has to make a point to praise a vehicle for having physical controls, manufacturers really need to start listening to customer feedback about capacitive and screen button BS!
If customers want physical buttons, things will change but not overnight.
@@Lerppunen I'm convinced the bean counters don't properly survey what is wanted and rely on sales numbers to tell a story. However, each vehicle contains thousands of features so determining ergonomics, lighting, etc is complicated.. For example, despite US regulations that the the rear tail light can be red or yellow on a non-moving fender, this vehicle comes to the US with red blinkers. Preferred would be to keep the yellow.
@@Lerppunen This trend is being spread by entrepreneurs' interest. Replacing physical buttons into touch screens contributes to cost cutting. That looks cutting edge but actually not easy to use and manufacturers love it because it's cheaper to make than before.
@@billyjean2905 Right, and just like companies did studies to show that consumers "prefer" the easier to handle 59 ounce orange juice package over 64 ounce OJ, (and further consumers now "prefer" 52 oz OJ to 59 oz), consumer choice is not the actual driving force but cost is.
As someone who's been using EVs and fairly advanced luxury vehicles for more than a decade now, it's quite easy for our muscle memory to adapt to capacitive buttons. I really don't get the hate on these review channels. Most manufacturers do poll users and focus groups about UX so no, this isn't coming from thin air.
It's important to remember that people tend to use the same vehicle everyday for a long time as opposed to reviewers who try many different cars for short periods.
Really nice car. Genesis interiors is from another planet, absolutely gorgeus.
Funny detail - I have a feeling that real dials and knobs are getting that premium look...
really like the gv70, and now that they offer an electric version is pretty much perfect
By far the most comprehensive - and more importantly most relevant consistent review across different vehicles - for mere-mortals daily driving usage by Thomas and Co.
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Love the Genesis GV70.
I hope Genesis will expand to other European countries in the near future.
They can't do. Hyundai's copycat everybody knows.
@@jianhaoxun363 This won’t prevent Genesis from expanding to other countries.
@@DaveDVideoMaker You should know WEY coffee and Ora Funky Cat surpassed hyundai genesis in EURO NCAP. They are just inferior.
@@jianhaoxun363 This won’t prevent Genesis from expanding either. Genesis has very safe vehicles.
@@jianhaoxun363 Coming from a Chinese lmao
So good to see normal AC & volume dials, window switches and no piano black!
VW, look and learn!
Not only VW...
Hey Thomas - TY for another one of your in depth reviews, I really enjoy your style of presentation.
Well done!!
I had the pleasure of taking out the ICE 3.5 |TT version out over a weekend twice here in Vancouver. I should have bought it when I had the chance. Now very difficult to find a used one and that price has increased by $5-$10K from original new MSRP.
The GV70 offers a wide variety of modes for the driver to enjoy.
As I approach 60 yrs old (and I'm a bit of a car guy) I totally love the luxury & comfort side of vehicles BUT also can to turn it up when I can. This GV70 3.5TT should really be about $20-$50K higher priced. It simply does everything really well and is 2nd to none is this segment when it comes to ride quality, comfortness, quietness all while surrounding the occupants with massive luxury features.
It is called the baby Bentayga for many reasons. It is so quiet & refined when you want it to be - When you're stuck in traffic or going no where fast. My wife asked me if it was an EV as it was so quiet. Those double paned windows really make a huge difference. Plus the massaging seat is nice!!
When you want to drive spiritedly switch it into Sports + mode and you easily have a rear wheel driving bias sporty experience.
Its the luxury components/options, higher tech, standard features & options, the ride quality (can be extremely quiet & smooth AND more aggressive in the Sport mode) that makes this GV 70 THE clear winner in segment.
I sure hope that the leather option is available here in Canada - I'll take it in that Gorgeous Mauna Red exterior colour with 2 tone interior combination please:-)
In Canada that full load price for the ICE is $76,500 plus taxes. The F&PDI is included in that price. No discounts from that at all.
BMW also has electrified 4 series. The huge advantage for me is (a) the ext & int looks (b) the sunroof. I NEED a sunroof.
Dealers have no info on when the electrified version will be arriving and NO configurator yet. They say its coming out in 2023 in Canada and the top trim level will be about $25K-$35K higher cost vs the ICE version. Besides its NO Gas requirement the EV version is a littler quicker with 0-60 times 4.3 to 4.6 seconds. For me I'd put down my deposit yesterday if the EV version had a time in the 3.5 second range.
I'll be testing the Electrified GV70 as soon as it lands.
PS - Lots of dealer problems with Genesis in the States. Here in Vancouver No problems at all. I have 3 dealers within 40 minutes and the nearest is 15 mins away.
Thanks again Thomas, Cheers all!!
Thanks 🙏 good feedback. Consider the leatherette option if they have!
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Genesis.
Simply Gorgeous
Especially seeing one in person
Rolling work of art
Having the rear turn signals that low, creates some kind of 'Vision Restraint "
It is natural for drivers to fucus on where the head unit for all lights are situated,
Most people won't quickly notice the turn signal as quick as they would notice the brake lights especially in congested town driving. Bad for busy places like India, or Lagos Nigeria etc..
This design has more disadvantages than advantages in certain parts of the world and motorway
yep
Seen this in the UK: I really don't think it's safe to hide them down there as you are normally looking at "headlight level" for cars, bicycles, e-scooters etc. still, at least they ship with working indicators-unlike every BMW ever shipped
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good review, thanks, well inside of new generation Genesis cars, just so relaxing, clean and elegant design..
Thanks for your excellent review, and quite funny too. I'm seriously looking at this GV70 e.
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'Frunks' are very useful for storing charging cables, etc. when the actual trunk/boot is loaded with cargo. Definitely a must have in my opinion. Too bad this frunk is so small.
also for smelly items, eg. leftovers from a family diner 🤣
At least if you take futuristic you can have your captain picard moment. And with this car you don’t even need to revert power from life support to engines .
Great video as always!
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I love it, that Thomas always keeps things fun (e.g using the force). This really sets you guys apart from just spec-driven reviews.
Regarding the frunk: I think the accessibility is the problem. Teslas make their frunk (afaik) accessible like the rear trunk - easily, without any hassle. These cars (Kia, Hyundai, Genesis) have a frunk, but you have to first open the hood and only then you can access your frunk. That's way too much - I would most certainly never do that.
Cheers!
Thank you Thomas
Nice review.
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I respect Thomas for bringing real attention on the use of animal skin in vehicles. Really appreciate that mate.
highly appreciated! Please keep supporting us and the animals !
Love the interior! As you said it looks modern but also very premium. Compare this with the VW EV`s....
I do like the animation in the drivers display. Greetings to BMW!
Good review as always, always consistent with every review which is really a good thing. Much appreciated. Is it possible to review this car against equivalent German rivals?
Thanks 🙏
I can comment about that ye
This is hands down thr best all round SUV in the market!
great car and review
Really nice finish on the controls and switchgear.
Thomas you drive so many different cars jumping in and out of different models.How do you manage to set up the seating position comfortable every time.Everytime my wife or son moves the seat in our car it takes me along time to find my comfortable driving position again .Any tips on finding the best position quickly
Thomas: the electric GLC is not available yet.
EQC: Am I a joke to you?
I mentioned the iX3, however the EQC is even being discontinued by Mercedes because it is not a real competition (missing range and recharging capabilities)
that dashboard looks awesome
Nice one Thomas. I would request you to do a proper review on new Renault Austral. I would like to see your views on it. Thanks.
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I vote for no artificial noise. In other words keep it quiet. Thanks for the great in depth review.
I vote for the futuristic electric engine sound...a very nice EV.
I like it a lot.
They need more dealership.
NICE CAR
Hi Thomas, I think the EQC is Mercedes GLC equivalent electric model, if so I doubt they would budget for an electric GLC, since it create competition between two in house products.
Having said that my main gripe with the EQC is the top end speed (111.8 mph) while starting at over 400 HP with good acceleration. In the UK, that is a non-issue since you would be driving illegally at those speeds anyway, but in Germany with the autobahn it becomes a whole other story. Then the GV70 (top speed 148 mph) starts to make a lot more sense, not by much, but more in line with a regular ICE vehicle.
For circling around town, none of that matters. It will matter if you do a lot of highway miles and travel across Europe...
EQC (average electric range 255 miles, time to fast charge 25 minutes) VS electric GV70 (average electric range 283 miles, time to fast charge 17 minutes)
EQC is slower from lights than a GV70, costs almost $10k more, and in my eyes GV70 is prettier and just as luxurious. I have been looking at these two and an EQB 7 seater, but am inclined to go GV70 or wait for an electric GV80 with 7 seats (need space for family and equipment). Really not sure which way to go at the moment...
ev-database.org/uk/car/1337/Mercedes-EQC-400-4MATIC
ev-database.org/uk/car/1725/Genesis-GV70-Electrified-Sport
ev-database.org/uk/car/1493/Mercedes-EQB-350-4MATIC
no data yet for electrified GV80...
Strange you have to use the OME maps to pre conditioning the battery for faster charging. The cabin seemed very quiet.
Very nice review. 2 Questions: 1. Is the GV70 EV now available for sale in Germany and what is the cost?
2: I noticed that it does not have a sun roof. Is this just the way it was ordered or is a sun roof not available, similar to the G80 EV that is not available with a sun roof?
Thanks!! Should be available now yes. Sunroof, gotta search for that in the configurator
Frunc is very important to me, although not a no go criteria.
Which would you recommend -- Electric GV70 or Audi Q4 Sportback Premium Plus? Im concerned about the price point of Q4 not delivering on lux value/interior after test driving (piano black + lots of plastics). Thanks for your reviews, this has been really helpful on car shopping in this market.
Thanks 🙏 if u can get this one here without animal skin seats, go for it!
@@autogefuehl Come on , there is nothing "sustainable" about leatherettein comparison to normal leather. Animals dont get exclusively murdered for this leather. And animals are far more sustainable than you make it seem. I bet you havent stopped using Things that are glued together, since most of the glues out there get produced via animals waste products aswell. Its just cringy Virtue signaling at this point.
Interesting, very interesting!
Thomas, please give some driving preferences between gv70 and Gv60. Interior comfort feel, fun factor, etc.
Defo GV70, better value for money.
Nice but outside it look like a bit glossy and bold (more appreciated outside Europe)
Regarding front space , I believe we would expect to maximize it considering there is not a huge engine.
Very nice! The interior looks better than GV60
25:50 Comparing to Volvo XC60 isn't exactly fair, Volvo didn't make a Recharge version
Beautiful car, and excellent review! What watch are you wearing??
thanks! That's an Alpina
@@autogefuehl Thanks, Thomas!
Is there any way to buy these outside Germany, here in Romania?
Make Holliday in Germany 🙂
The expressway condensed into a single lane before the tunnel. What town is this ?
Should be Oberursel, going into Feldberg tunnel. Pretty nice area.
Great video!
Would you choose this car over the GV60?
Thanks! Yes better value for money
this model beats all German car brands in this segment!!
Hallo Thomas, warst du auf Pro7 zu sehen im Interview newstime mit Gas Fragen? Oder hast du einen Doppelgänger? 😄😄😄 Sorry für die blöde Frage
Hey ;-) War heute in Berlin und wurde auf der Straße gefragt. Hast du n Link, dann kann ichs mir auch kurz anschauen =)
Great review as always! I have two requests if you don't mind - 1. Use a sound decibel instrument to detect the interior noise while traveling at 100kph or so. 2. When you take measurements, would it be possible to lay the 2nd row seats down and measure from the back of the seats to the ceiling of the vehicle (inside measurements)?
thanks! db measuring is a big problem because of different road and weather conditions. Just makes sense in direct comparison at same day and same road... but we could still try to implement that and see where it goes
I’d stay away from electric vehicles until manufacturers allow for third party agents to create and sell batteries in order to bring down costs when it comes to replacement. If your electric car battery dies (post warranty ) for example Tesla, you are looking at cost of $25,000.
You are free to do so. If your engine breaks it's also hard to install a 3rd party one...
@@trinilgan there are plenty of mechanic shops that repair engines at competitive prices compared to dealer prices . You should know better
That noise when you accelerated to 200 on the autobahn....sounded like you had a bad wheel bearing.
Bei 21:25 war das noch OHNE boost?
Yo
Nice car but animal
leather, boost button, ignition and keyfob feels so strange and wrong
Wouldn't the EQC be the electric GLC? Anyway, this car seems to have far better build and material quality than the GLC and even the GLE and GLS. Mercedes quality has taken a huge knock.
Yes you are right. Because of the poor range, the EQC is hardly considered a real competitor though
Even Mercedes has already decided to ditch the EQC, it will not be sold anymore soon, canceling it in early/mid 2023
@@autogefuehl Ah I see. That's interesting. I hope they at least replace the EQC with something more worthy.
yeah they will, but that will take some more time
Heh, 🇨🇭, i just came back from Zwitserland home to 🇳🇱...with a VW e-Golf 🫣 932 km in one go 👌 do wish i had 10-80% charging in 20 minutes
U drove 1000 km with an eGolf - right 😉
Is this RImac Technology battery tech inside?
Hyundai says they developed their own
I read this extraordinarily beautiful GV70 BEV is about the size of the Nissan Ariya, BMW X3, Lexus RZ450, and Mercedes EQE-SUV. But the price is a little over US$70K. It offers so many futures and functions. A fully equipped EQE-SUV with Hyper Screen is close to US$90K. I wish Hyundai had chosen a 14-inch or 17-inch "square" shape screen. A long skinny screen is not easy to view on a map and parking views. And it would be nice if they added 4WS. Regardless, EV70 BEV is stunningly attractive and desirable. I would give a thumb-up over rivals. Very well done, Hyundai/Genesis. Thank you, Thomas. But have you had a chance to drive EQE-350 SUV? Which one would you like? GV70 SUV or EQE-SUV? I would love to see and hear your opinions.
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If I can get a trim without animal skin seats, i d pick the GV70
That fabric on the seats would be a deal killer for me...no idea why they would do that on a vehicle at this price!
very nice this Aston Martin..ehmm i mean Genesis car
The platform sharing hurts rear seat room unfortunately. Beautiful vehicle IMO
He never push the boost button…wtf 😂
The grill kills it for me. Should have been smoothed out.
As a humans we need to tach things we need to feel things 👍😁
Its true
Interior of a Audi Q5 compared to this one is nothing. You can upgrade it to the maximum but it still won't have the soft touch leather with stitches on the dashboard or the doors. May be the SQ5 (I do not know) but not the Q5. The interiors with the physical buttons are nice. I like layout as the ones in Audi E-Tron more. The screen built not as a protruding tab but inbuilt into the dash.
High performance luxury electric suv
Great, because we don't already have too many SUVs.
if only have powerful AWD like the land rover evoque
I'll wait until then with EV version with range over 550 km
Quiz : which design do you all prefer, GV60 or Gv70-EV?
70 that was easy
28:29 Rather 37, not 35 kWh/100 miles
No charging test to verify the claims?
on these initial tests, you cannot have the car for a time to do a charging test
You'll find a charging test of this EV technology in this review:
th-cam.com/video/X9jzYwCo6G0/w-d-xo.html
They are using the same EV tech.
@@autogefuehl Ok, Car Maniac did a complete charge, nevermind.
Who said Germans didn't have a sense of humor
Nice car, but the lack of wireless android auto / carplay disqualifies it for me.
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Seems like a great car - but I’m not sure it offers much more than the GV60.
How profitable will the Electrified GV70 (or any other EV) be when most of the EU is currently battling energy shortages, economic recession by incompetent governments, and winter is also coming?
Nah, I think I'll pass and get the petrol model instead.
WHY ARE THE DESIGNERS COPYING THE AWEFUL, GAUDY, LEXUS FRONT ENDS ?
nobody knows of genesis in Sweden 😞 maybe zero sold?
Dash reminds me a lot of Mazda, and generally the interiors of Genesis seem to have no family look.
Not convinced by the exterior styling. Nice car though. Great colour.
Not pink. Copper.
How to charge a gv70
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this better than the Germans lol
Aw that looks boring. They just used the parts from the ICE model.
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Thomas, what's the problem with real leather? Would you have us just throw the animal skins away? A deal breaker for me, would be a vehicle this expensive without real leather!
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment.
You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. The classic approach is using oil/plastic as source material. Overall, a vehicle contains about 300 kg plastic. A car seat needs about 5 kg plastic. So the overall plastic share for the seats is very low and it is at this moment the most efficient way to produce a car seat. A couple of litres of fuel equals a car seat basically. So if you want to save oil/plastic, rather look at consumption for energy, fuel and heating and to other car parts than the seat. Note that animal skin leather also always contains a plastic coating for durability. However, long-term we should of course find raw oil alternatives. So going further, seats can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even increased share of plant-based materials (like pine oil, canola oil or start-up materials like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum, so be seen at th-cam.com/video/S1aNZeoatmE/w-d-xo.html). On a calculation base, by ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en) - and that is a very conservative calculation. So it is at this moment the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable.
A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensafin: th-cam.com/video/1pRNkW9nrrw/w-d-xo.html
And the Kia EV9 with plant-based oil share: th-cam.com/video/6vXePQi_MAk/w-d-xo.html
New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect, even for cleaning: th-cam.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/w-d-xo.html
More and more natural materials are rising: th-cam.com/video/nRSsXEnwHDo/w-d-xo.html
Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: th-cam.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/w-d-xo.html
For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: th-cam.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/w-d-xo.html
Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally.
In a high animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the "first" misuse case, the hide remains a profitable body part. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the primary use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse?
We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
GV70e is much better name
That or eGV70 :)
Great video Thomas! I will have to say, though, that who on earth would by a Hyundai instead of a BMW, Porsche, MB or Alfa Romeo? My opinion is that Hyundai is garbage. They do look good but that's it. What's the expression?? Oh yeah - "It's like lipstick on a pig" :)
Then you buy another car. There are enough buyers outside.
The animal skin offering is not a "deal breaker". It may be for you and some others, but you do not speak on behalf of all motorists.
I wish you would stop pushing your own personal agenda on this subject.
You are perfectly entitled to prefer the non animal skin option, however, others do still prefer this option.
Personally, I prefer suede or artificial suede, but I would never seek to stop others being able to select their preference, or to pressure manufacturers to delete this option because of your own preferences.
I generally enjoy your reviews, but inevitably there comes a point in most of your reviews where you cannot stop yourself from pushing this agenda.
Also, and I have mentioned this before, it would be more useful to hear the official boot capacity in litres, rather than a non-scientific poke around in the boot with a ruler. Non of your measurements are exact and often only measure one are of, for example depth. So by stating one measurement for depth, you are not being factually accurate as the depth alters at various points, completely negating your single depth measurement.
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment.
You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. They can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even from plant-based materials (like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum). Or the Polestar 3 e.g. is using pine oil. And even if you still create a leatherette seat the classic way with petroleum base without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is very little in comparison to how much oil is used for other car parts or how much oil is burned for fuel or heating. By ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en). So it is the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable.
Another interesting article is here:
www.collectivefashionjustice.org/articles/is-vegetable-tanned-leather-sustainable-lets-do-some-leather-myth-busting#:~:text=Often%20listed%20as%20a%20'pro,the%20method%20of%20tanning%20used.
A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensfin: th-cam.com/video/1pRNkW9nrrw/w-d-xo.html
New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect: th-cam.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/w-d-xo.html
More and more natural materials are rising: th-cam.com/video/nRSsXEnwHDo/w-d-xo.html or th-cam.com/video/S1aNZeoatmE/w-d-xo.html
Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: th-cam.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/w-d-xo.html
For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: th-cam.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/w-d-xo.html
Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally.
Depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the first misuse case, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the priority use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down or even murdered on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse?
We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
@@autogefuehl It was very kind of you to take the time to compile your extensive reply. However, I am afraid all you have done is confirm your bias.
Now, I don't want to argue with the rights and wrongs of sustainability, ethics etc, as we could debate the entire ev movement. My point remains that for me, my enjoyment of your videos is diminished as a result of the blatant narrative you are attempting to push. You are 100% entitled to hold any view you wish, however, when you keep pushing it in every video it becomes annoying and makes me want to skip the Autogefuhl review and just head to straight to Carwow, or Autocar. Shame really, as apart from this aspect I generally enjoy your videos, but I don't want to be preached to when I watch a car review.
Even if we disagree, you would skip the channel based on a 5 seconds part in the video? Why is the part where I recommend non-animal seats considered preaching, whereas I would recommend e.g. a petrol engine over a diesel engine in a certain vehicle or EV or the Hybrid or smth. an advise?
@@autogefuehl I think you may be missing the point of my comment.
I respect anyone's opinion on whether animal skins are used in the motor industry and as a reviewer of cars you are absolutely entitled to point out whether the model under review comes with leather or artificial options; proper consumer advice - as it should be.
What annoys me and why I would consider unsubscribing, is the disproportionate level of importance this subject has.
Whether a manufacturer only uses animal skin or not is THEIR decision. If they decide not to use any animal-free products, it is THEIR choice. It is also the choice of the consumer to vote with their wallet if they do not like this approach.
It is clear from many of your videos and not least the question you recently put to the VW CEO, that the use of animal skins is a subject very close to your heart. And that is fine, but in your personal quest you are removing objectivity from your reviews and it feels like you are using this part of a vehicles review to push your own personal agenda.
It is clear that you are moved by this subject as evidenced by the speed of your response to my initial post where you just happened to have to hand a series of links on the cruelty of the animal skin trade, which you sent me to view (to educate me?)
I am not a heartless person and no right thinking person wishes to see animal cruelty, but there is a time and a place for airing your personal/ideological views, and i feel that that is not in almost every car review you produce.
If you are that passionate, take your protests directly to the motor manufacturers, just don't impose it on your viewers.
Caveat: I personally prefer artico and similar synthetic products, so I am no fanboy of the leather trade (although, I am not against it either).
Kind regards.
it's the best electric car bc it doesn't look electric iukwim
looks like they hired some of the nutcases at Ssangyong for this depressing design
Always this complaint abt animal skin, why? Kind of boring to hear it every time.
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. Please tune in to what the animal leather industry tried to do here with our channel: th-cam.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/w-d-xo.html
In general, depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat would be the reason no.1 in other cases, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you accept it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and destroys the environment, you make them more profitable. Also, if you turn the argument around "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize how biased the argument is. After all, would you care for which exact body part you would be murdered? Or imagine someone robs you on the street and beats you to death - would it matter to you if it was for your Smartphone or for your purse?
The animal agriculture industry occupies 2/3 of all farm land on this planet which cannot be used for direct human nutrition then. That is extremely inefficient. The no.1 cause for deforestation is the animal industry. It is also one of the biggest contributor to climate change. The amount of land, resources, energy and water being used is beyond imagination.
If you are interested in how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: th-cam.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/w-d-xo.html
Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally.
For the alternative, you can either use artificial fabrics which can be made from recyclables (we have already shown a lot of vehicles that use great fabric seats from PET-bottles etc.) or more and more also from plant-based materials (like Pinatex or Desertex or Miriam). And even if you would create a seat completely with petroleum without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is nothing in comparing just to once fueling up your car. By ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) %. So it is the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable.
In practical reasons, fabric or microfibre seats are just more useful. You do not sweat in summer and it is not cold in winter. And if you want the slick look or something to wipe clean easier, that is possible with animal free leatherette, even in ventilated options.
And there are also new leatherette materials available which are superior in every aspect: th-cam.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/w-d-xo.html
More and more natural materials are rising: th-cam.com/video/nRSsXEnwHDo/w-d-xo.html or th-cam.com/video/yG3z7m6UqNg/w-d-xo.html
Using animal skin on seats is a major issue of animal rights, human rights - and after all it is just common sense what is better both for the environment and just more practical and more luxurious for the customer. We cannot change what we have bought in the past (that also counts for ourselves of course!), but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
Firstly Stop going on about the badge being like Bentley you say that all the time is annoying . So what is missing on the car if you look near the drive mode next to the D on the other side says auto hold but next to the D there the same sort button as the auto hold but it’s blank if like old cars means you not selected an option .
I buy a pair of leather shoes and eat a cheeseburger every time you express frustration with animal skin seats.
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. Please tune in to what the animal leather industry tried to do here with our channel: th-cam.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/w-d-xo.html
In general, depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat would be the reason no.1 in other cases, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you accept it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and destroys the environment, you make them more profitable. Also, if you turn the argument around "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize how biased the argument is. After all, would you care for which exact body part you would be murdered? Or imagine someone robs you on the street and beats you to death - would it matter to you if it was for your Smartphone or for your purse?
The animal agriculture industry occupies 2/3 of all farm land on this planet which cannot be used for direct human nutrition then. That is extremely inefficient. The no.1 cause for deforestation is the animal industry. It is also one of the biggest contributor to climate change. The amount of land, resources, energy and water being used is beyond imagination.
If you are interested in how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: th-cam.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/w-d-xo.html
Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally.
For the alternative, you can either use artificial fabrics which can be made from recyclables (we have already shown a lot of vehicles that use great fabric seats from PET-bottles etc.) or more and more also from plant-based materials (like Pinatex or Desertex or Miriam). And even if you would create a seat completely with petroleum without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is nothing in comparing just to once fueling up your car. By ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) %. So it is the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable.
In practical reasons, fabric or microfibre seats are just more useful. You do not sweat in summer and it is not cold in winter. And if you want the slick look or something to wipe clean easier, that is possible with animal free leatherette, even in ventilated options.
And there are also new leatherette materials available which are superior in every aspect: th-cam.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/w-d-xo.html
More and more natural materials are rising: th-cam.com/video/nRSsXEnwHDo/w-d-xo.html or th-cam.com/video/yG3z7m6UqNg/w-d-xo.html
Using animal skin on seats is a major issue of animal rights, human rights - and after all it is just common sense what is better both for the environment and just more practical and more luxurious for the customer. We cannot change what we have bought in the past (that also counts for ourselves of course!), but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
@@autogefuehl Foie gras.
The position of the number plate is shocking design.
Lazy design. Looks terrible.
In Euro NCAP, every Korean cars failed to match with Chinese cars. It's time to consider Chinese cars as replacement of Korean. Chinese are even teaching Japanese when it comes to EV. That means, Chinese products are equivalent to those of Japanese.
We shouldn't be surprised that you made this comment.
😂😂😂😂😅 You made something way faster than Italian made super cars that shocked the whole world in 2020
Keep up the good work.
They are just copycats.. look at that Bentley-ish exterior. Even they are claiming DeLorean's design as theirs. Korean are people always doing that way lmao
A designer from Bentley is a Genesis designer.
Also, The designer of Drolorean designed the Pony 74 first, and it was Drololean who was inspired by the car.
Do you understand now? Chinese?
I know you guys can't do TH-cam
The designer who designed Bentley Flying Spur is Korean, Sangyup Lee. He also designed chevy camero 5th Gen. Now He is Head designer of Hyundai.
Classic example of the pot calling the kettle black.
The interior is better quality and design /assembled than Mercedes Benz ,/ BMW Bolshevik era ,PERIOD!!!!
Thomas, in a full EV I’ll choose quiet drivetrain sound.
HashtagCapacitiveBS , to quote you, amico 👍🏻
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“General Vehicle” 🫡 Don’t know how many caught that
From a fellow “How I met your mother” fan, respect sir.
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