Long live rim brakes and mechanical shifting! I bought the very last LOOK 795 BLADE RS model with rim brakes specfically because I knew it was the last of the dinosaurs.
Also, Di2 transforms a bike into a throw-away gadget like a phone, rather than a life-long love affair. (Clearly I am a Durian / Hambini ideologue, hahaha! )
Love my mechanical rim brake bikes.. Steel and titanium frames to.. had a few carbon bikes but always gone back to steel 😊 just my opinion.. Pete 🚴🏻🚴🏻👍
I agree with everything you say but feel the biggest flaw in modern bikes is the difficulty and/or high cost of customization. On my elderly bikes, things like changing handlebars or stems is easy, quick and inexpensive, handlebar height can be adjusted in seconds, and an old fashioned handlebar with a round cross-section allows handlebar tilt to be adjusted, again in seconds - something that can't be done at all with an "aero" handlebar. I could go on....
I agree with pretty much all you have said, modern bikes seem to be more of a triumph of marketing more than anything with crazy prices for very little actual quality or craftsmanship on show. These carbon wonders have no soul and are unnecessarily complex for no real reason. Let's hope we find some semblance of common sense some time in the near future.
Going down a mountain one time with a buddy, his disk brakes malfunctioned -- we could have died! Otherwise, I hear disk brakes squeaking and rubbing all the time.
I’m not sure why you hear so many. I have 5 disk brake bikes. Never had one rub or squeak (except when wet). Maybe I should become a disk brake set up expert.
Excellent video, Waynos! In addition to disc brakes and electronic shifting, modern bikes are known for hit-or-miss carbon frame manufacturing. Raoul Luescher has called into question the manufacturing inconsistencies in modern carbon bike brands that make riding a bike potentially dangerous. In a video featuring his proprietary bike he apparently had to scan several carbon forks before he felt comfortable selecting one for his own brand of bike. Once I am 100% convinced that a modern carbon bike frame is free of voids, porosity, and wrinkles, that won’t send me to the hospital, then maybe I’ll consider upgrading from my early 90s steel that was good enough for Sean Kelly.
Im just keeping my Look 795 RS rim brake perfect bike i rode a sportive in Wiltshire in the uk 2 weeks ago and was shocked at least half of the riders were on rim brake bikes people are hanging on to their bikes.
Electronic shifting means that if producer withraw app from shop, no adjustment, no setting change, and planned obsolescence. It can be changed into usles paper weight by simply decision from manufacturer like: "Our app do not supprt this last year model any more".
When it comes to travel with the bike, I still have my bike thats fully mechanical including the cable disk brakes & plenty of cable in the frame routing to make bike box packing easy and it's actually not that old (a CX bike under 7 years old from new into the market, with shimano 105 level of componentry overall for the entire bike, not the best but very capable & fast without the excess costs). I could use my even older fully machanical criterium bike with rim brakes as my bike packing bike but with my CX bike I get way better options including the speed factor of various riding locations then my criterium bike could ever give me. My very high end modern bike with the modern electrics, hydraulic disk brakes and the very unfriendly internal cable routing is definitely for local rides only, way to much hassle to pack & unpack from a bike box. I'm lucky in having 3 bikes to choose from but if I had to choose only one bike to keep as my everything bike it would be the CX bike especically if bike packing was a normal part of my travels.
Look at what the President of the French Professional Cyclist Union said about disk brakes and carbon frames. Pascal Chanteur has some interesting comments on the industry
Campagnolo cables are pre-stretched. None of my Chorus 2no. 11speed and one 12 speed or my Athena groupsets have ever experienced cable stretch. Once settled in they have never needed more than a quarter of a barrel turn over about 5 years. My SR EPS never go out 8 years counting. Hopefully my Wireless SR is as good, quality wise it really puts my 11speed SR groups to shame (and they are excellent) simply nothing come close by a margin.
The ONLY things you need on a bike are: a frame, two wheels, cranks, pedals, a chain, a single speed, a saddle, a handlebar, a front brake. ALL the rest is not necessary. The only question to be asked is where you cut the mark. Some people like myself will tell you that a steel frame is the best things after sliced bread, some other think they need carbon because steel is "heavy". Should we then say that carbon is flawed? Guess not. Up until the advent of 11 and 12 speed we were all happy on 10 speed. Should we then say that 11 speed and 12 speed are flawed? Surely not. Fully integrated internal routing is a pain in the ass to live with, and nobody else other than professional cyclist need them. But if you are racing the Tour and every second counts, you take all that you can get. You see it's all a matter of where you are in history. Someone might have even criticized Campagnolo for coming up with the quick release back in the days. It's inherent in human nature to be refractory to changes. Disc brakes are not always better than rim brakes and electronic gears are not always better than mechanical ones. They are only different. There is a place and a time for all of those things. I've bike packed for 5 consecutive months on a gravel bike with electronic gears. And I've flown with it too. Without. Any. Issue. Electronics does not get damaged on a plane. You only have less air pressure, you are not on Mars. But you are right on one thing, if you want to go to the end of the world you should not bring electronic gears with you. But likely every passionate cyclist has a travel bike, where everything is more easily maintainable.
I can also put my rim brake bike in the back seat of my car or the trunk. I can even put two in the backseat. I can skid in two inches of water in the rain. The only difference in the rain is i test them before i need them. I dont really lose much any stopping power. For arguments sake, maybe i need an extra foot to stop that is it. On my colnago master x light i have not touched the brakes in 15 yrs. Same story w my mt bike that has xtr linear pull brakes. Also when i lock up my bike at the grocery store or coffee shop i dont have to worry about somebody else knocking my rotors out of place.
When they put wireless on anyway physically connected parts, you know that it's only a race between manufacturers of who manages to put more expensive stuff on a bike
Wayno, I think you know I'm a fan of your channel, followed from the start, I like your stuff so I'm saying this out of love 😘 I find your videos hard to watch with the little sparks/fireflies?? at the top and bottom of the screen, I have to look away and just listen. Sorry dude.
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Cycling is all about the simplicity of you and the carefree freedom of the open road.
Long live rim brakes and mechanical shifting!
I bought the very last LOOK 795 BLADE RS model with rim brakes specfically because I knew it was the last of the dinosaurs.
Same here mate I got the last TCR rim brake option 2021 AP1.
Agree 100%
Also, Di2 transforms a bike into a throw-away gadget like a phone, rather than a life-long love affair.
(Clearly I am a Durian / Hambini ideologue, hahaha! )
I would say, any freaking carbon frame does. I can't see the point why a battery and some cables create such an issue…
@@gnufoo8478 I like carbon aero bikes. I have had one for over ten years.
Love my mechanical rim brake bikes.. Steel and titanium frames to.. had a few carbon bikes but always gone back to steel 😊 just my opinion.. Pete 🚴🏻🚴🏻👍
yes, modern bikes are not made for long time ownership.
I have both Di2 and mechanical rim brake bikes and quite frankly I love the way mechanical works more tactile shifting 😂
I agree with everything you say but feel the biggest flaw in modern bikes is the difficulty and/or high cost of customization. On my elderly bikes, things like changing handlebars or stems is easy, quick and inexpensive, handlebar height can be adjusted in seconds, and an old fashioned handlebar with a round cross-section allows handlebar tilt to be adjusted, again in seconds - something that can't be done at all with an "aero" handlebar. I could go on....
Disc BREAKS! Hydrau-LEAKS
Modern bikes are great, but the simplicity has been lost. Startup and maintenance costs have made cycling an elitist sport
I agree with pretty much all you have said, modern bikes seem to be more of a triumph of marketing more than anything with crazy prices for very little actual quality or craftsmanship on show. These carbon wonders have no soul and are unnecessarily complex for no real reason. Let's hope we find some semblance of common sense some time in the near future.
Heavy MTB tech has no place on a light weight road bike!
Going down a mountain one time with a buddy, his disk brakes malfunctioned -- we could have died!
Otherwise, I hear disk brakes squeaking and rubbing all the time.
I’m not sure why you hear so many. I have 5 disk brake bikes. Never had one rub or squeak (except when wet). Maybe I should become a disk brake set up expert.
I don't think that you would be short of work?
@@kdw2176 Hahahahahahahahahaaaaaa. Squeak! squeak! squeak! . . . all the way to the disc brake Pied Piper
Excellent video, Waynos! In addition to disc brakes and electronic shifting, modern bikes are known for hit-or-miss carbon frame manufacturing. Raoul Luescher has called into question the manufacturing inconsistencies in modern carbon bike brands that make riding a bike potentially dangerous. In a video featuring his proprietary bike he apparently had to scan several carbon forks before he felt comfortable selecting one for his own brand of bike. Once I am 100% convinced that a modern carbon bike frame is free of voids, porosity, and wrinkles, that won’t send me to the hospital, then maybe I’ll consider upgrading from my early 90s steel that was good enough for Sean Kelly.
Im just keeping my Look 795 RS rim brake perfect bike i rode a sportive in Wiltshire in the uk 2 weeks ago and was shocked at least half of the riders were on rim brake bikes people are hanging on to their bikes.
Electronic shifting means that if producer withraw app from shop, no adjustment, no setting change, and planned obsolescence. It can be changed into usles paper weight by simply decision from manufacturer like: "Our app do not supprt this last year model any more".
I dont know… but so far i have 4 bikes with mechanical groupsets and 1 electronic.. so far the electronic one required zero maintenance at all…
When it comes to travel with the bike,
I still have my bike thats fully mechanical including the cable disk brakes & plenty of cable in the frame routing to make bike box packing easy and it's actually not that old (a CX bike under 7 years old from new into the market, with shimano 105 level of componentry overall for the entire bike, not the best but very capable & fast without the excess costs). I could use my even older fully machanical criterium bike with rim brakes as my bike packing bike but with my CX bike I get way better options including the speed factor of various riding locations then my criterium bike could ever give me.
My very high end modern bike with the modern electrics, hydraulic disk brakes and the very unfriendly internal cable routing is definitely for local rides only, way to much hassle to pack & unpack from a bike box.
I'm lucky in having 3 bikes to choose from but if I had to choose only one bike to keep as my everything bike it would be the CX bike especically if bike packing was a normal part of my travels.
Look at what the President of the French Professional Cyclist Union said about disk brakes and carbon frames. Pascal Chanteur has some interesting comments on the industry
I saw his story on france24.
why do you wear that stuff in the studio?
Technology could have produced mechanical gear cables that did not stretch…imagine a campagnolo super record with stretch-less cables .. pure joy
Campagnolo cables are pre-stretched. None of my Chorus 2no. 11speed and one 12 speed or my Athena groupsets have ever experienced cable stretch. Once settled in they have never needed more than a quarter of a barrel turn over about 5 years. My SR EPS never go out 8 years counting. Hopefully my Wireless SR is as good, quality wise it really puts my 11speed SR groups to shame (and they are excellent) simply nothing come close by a margin.
The ONLY things you need on a bike are: a frame, two wheels, cranks, pedals, a chain, a single speed, a saddle, a handlebar, a front brake. ALL the rest is not necessary. The only question to be asked is where you cut the mark. Some people like myself will tell you that a steel frame is the best things after sliced bread, some other think they need carbon because steel is "heavy". Should we then say that carbon is flawed? Guess not. Up until the advent of 11 and 12 speed we were all happy on 10 speed. Should we then say that 11 speed and 12 speed are flawed? Surely not. Fully integrated internal routing is a pain in the ass to live with, and nobody else other than professional cyclist need them. But if you are racing the Tour and every second counts, you take all that you can get. You see it's all a matter of where you are in history. Someone might have even criticized Campagnolo for coming up with the quick release back in the days. It's inherent in human nature to be refractory to changes. Disc brakes are not always better than rim brakes and electronic gears are not always better than mechanical ones. They are only different. There is a place and a time for all of those things. I've bike packed for 5 consecutive months on a gravel bike with electronic gears. And I've flown with it too. Without. Any. Issue. Electronics does not get damaged on a plane. You only have less air pressure, you are not on Mars. But you are right on one thing, if you want to go to the end of the world you should not bring electronic gears with you. But likely every passionate cyclist has a travel bike, where everything is more easily maintainable.
Rim brakes mercancal gearing cheaper and easier to maintain
I can also put my rim brake bike in the back seat of my car or the trunk. I can even put two in the backseat.
I can skid in two inches of water in the rain. The only difference in the rain is i test them before i need them. I dont really lose much any stopping power. For arguments sake, maybe i need an extra foot to stop that is it.
On my colnago master x light i have not touched the brakes in 15 yrs. Same story w my mt bike that has xtr linear pull brakes.
Also when i lock up my bike at the grocery store or coffee shop i dont have to worry about somebody else knocking my rotors out of place.
When they put wireless on anyway physically connected parts, you know that it's only a race between manufacturers of who manages to put more expensive stuff on a bike
Electronic derailleurs are easier and cheaper to manufacture
@@javiersmith2216that is a myth
I still don’t understand why you are not filming this in a 8mm camera and shipping it to us via horse mail. 🤷
Off topic. Soooo, no one is mentioning Peter Sagan has had TWO heart surgeries RECENTLY?
What's sad is that he was against the vax too. But he was forced to get it to keep his career. I'm sure he regrets it now.
@@Silidons91 Damn!
Jamba doooo
Wayno, I think you know I'm a fan of your channel, followed from the start, I like your stuff so I'm saying this out of love 😘 I find your videos hard to watch with the little sparks/fireflies?? at the top and bottom of the screen, I have to look away and just listen. Sorry dude.
I agree, I thought I was tripping, plus Waynos seemingly constant movement on his chair???😂😂😂😂
Here to entertain lol.